Post: #1

I was there for a week and absolutely loved it. I saw beautiful women everywhere - beaches, streets, malls, and bars/clubs. Tel Aviv is a youthful city, the majority of the people living in the city seemed to be under the age of 30.

I've backpacked through South America, and honestly, I've never seen so many beautiful women in one city before. It was mind-boggling, no joke.

I can't even begin to describe what the women look like. Many were of Russian, Eastern-European decent, with sexy, petite, curvy bodies. I also noticed the Western-European Portuguese/Spaniard looking girls that look just as stunning. The darker ones were Middle Eastern Yeminite descent which had olive skin, curly hair, and again, curvy tight bodies. Finally, you get immigrants from every other country in the world - it's a country of immigrants!!

Lastly, I didn't really run into many tourists while I was there. Can someone please backup my claim? Thank you.

-chinogringo.com

Post: #2

Chinogringo,

Great story.

Break it down a little more.

Where did you stay?

How easy were girls to swoop?

Was being American a negative or positive?

Day Game?

Nightclubs?

Game that works the best?

A funny anecdote?

- MPM
The Guide to Getting More out of Life
http://www.thegmanifesto.com

Post: #3

you forgot..taxis always wanting to rip you off. and girls having no assatall

Post: #4

I'm thinking about heading to the Middle East after I graduate in June (I'll be in the Baltics). Tel Aviv is on my list of cities to visit, as it Beirut.

How expensive did you find Tel Aviv? What part of town did you stay in?

Post: #5

How easy / hard are the girls to get with there?

Any language barrier or cultural problems? Are theu curious about foreigners or is going with a foreigner considered a no-no?

Post: #6

Had a few business trips to Tel Aviv which is good fun city, will contribute my 2 cents:

The nightlife is totally amazing in Tel Aviv, maybe one of the best in the world, you have every type of entertainment you like 7 days a week, it seems that people do not work the next day as even in Sunday-Tuesday there are quite a lot of party places, you should know some people to know where to go each day and/or register to some Facebook groups. There are quite a few tourists there, mostly Jewish which flow the city especially from US and France.
They have very nice beach, most nice hotels are on the beach where I stayed, there is great varied food and this time of a year quite a hot weather.

Girls are truly attractive and varied in look, you can see some nice asses also there, seems like breast size is also above average.
Being American or any other western country seems like an advantage but I found most of the girls require top notch gaming, most of them speaks good English and occasionally you can meet French, Spanish or Russian speakers.
Day game could be in the shopping malls, so many hot cuties there...

Tel Aviv is not cheap though, maybe similar prices to Germany.

Post: #7

Marco above summed up it pretty good...and you need top notch game for these girls. No pushovers in Israel. They're cynical and ball-busting but once you get one she's a keeper.

Post: #8

I stayed at my brother's apt on Bograshov st. right next to Moon Sushi minutes away from the beach. He's a bit older so we didn't go out hard. I didn't approach during the day, and the few times I approached out night I was pretty unsuccessful. When I was in South America I was traveling alone and meeting people left and right. In Tel Aviv I was spending a lot of time with my brother. Tel Aviv was totally different for me on every level. A week was just not enough time for me.

If you want to be successful here you need a wingman or group of friends. Someone needs to be able to speak Hebrew, and you have to be extremely outgoing. You also need someone to show you which clubs/bars to go to in Tel Aviv, it's hit or miss here. Girls here are complicated and beautiful. Many girls who I thought could not speak a lick of English, ended up speaking perfect English with no accent. Good luck.

Post: #9

(07-25-2009 01:39 PM)elguapo Wrote:  ...and you need top notch game for these girls. No pushovers in Israel. They're cynical and ball-busting but once you get one she's a keeper.

Yeah they're tough girls. They've all been in the army for 2 years. And they are used to being hit on a lot by macho israeli guys. Bitch shields are up. But good game conquers all

Post: #10

Do Jewish Israeli girls hook up with non-Jews?

Post: #11

It depends on 'how jew" they are i would say.
From the girls and guys i know. that were in israel or actually israeli. when it comes to the younger crowd. religion isnt what it use to be.
With All this war.. alot of israelis i know are either becoming atheist..or more theist..they want to believe in something..but they dont necessarily adhere strictly to jewish faith.

If they dont want to hook up..its more because of what they think others will think of them.
Your definitely not boyfriend material..cause parents arent gonna want their son or daughter with a non jew.

and if your uncircumcised that might be a problem..im sure this is less a religious this..but more of a upbringing thing.
when youve been told uncut cock is unclean all your life. religion or not im sure you would be hesitant to have it inside you.
But again.younger crowds are more open. youll probably be using a condom anyway....

Post: #12

Tel Aviv is a ton of fun for sure. Spent a lot of time there.

Whether you will do well there or not really depends on how you fit into local perceptions of the "desirable male". Contrary to what some people believe, some guys - because of physical style and personality type - just do better in some countries than others. There is no single universally appealing male across every society, which is why it's often so useless to get a "trip report" from someone else. Maybe the local girls didn't like HIM, but that doesn't necessarily mean they won't love YOU!

I lived in Thailand for 2 years and there the most desirable men are skinny, pale Chinese guys. In America these guys are at the very bottom of the totem pole in the mating game, lower even than blacks. They are desired in Thailand because the economic elite of Thailand is composed almost entirely of Chinese, so in Thailand Chinese man equals wealthy, powerful, and well connected. In America, even though Chinese guys are financially successful, they are not more successful than many other groups and are seen as seriously un-masculine, humorless, and boring, which drags their ratings down.

Every country is different. Agnostic on his blog wrote about how he had excellent reception in Spain because his type is skinny pretty boy and they like that over there, wheras a ruggedly masculine tall and muscular type might do dismally in Spain and think Spanish girls are just cold to foreigners, when that just isn't true, and his "trip report" will be completely different.

The point is it's the easiest thing in the world to dismiss a negative receptions as having nothing to do with you but simply the locals attitude towards ALL foreigners - but it can be very, very false.

It's the same with Tel Aviv - secular Israelis like Europeans and Americans and it doesn't matter at all if you aren't Jewish, what matters is if you fit the local idea of a desirable guy is. You have to realize Israel is awash with swarthy, uber-macho Medditereanean types who hit on everything that walks. They are typically Jews from Arabic countries and in addition to being kind of sleazy they lower down on the social scale, have worse jobs, etc, etc. If you look and act like one of these guys, you won't do so well, although if you only look like one of these guys you can still do well if you act right.

Another type that probably won't do well in Tel Aviv is the large, muscular, blond type.

Israeli guys have a thin, fit build, with lean muscle mass rather than bulky muscle mass.

As for attitude, you will soon notice, than when not angry or irritated most Israeli males are self-contained and have a kind of quiet, manly restraint. The kind of highly voluble friendliness typical of Americans will tend to look immature over there. Israelis are relaxed and outgoing and friendly, but not loud or gushing or over smiley or friendly, like many Americans. You will soon notice the utterly different facial expressions and deportment and be able to adapt yourself to it and that is key to success (one of the coolest aspects of traveling is noting the totally different facial and body expressions of people in different countries, the subtle "atmosphere" that creates)

To cut things short you gotta git the mold to do well here, just you probably have to fit a very different mold to do well, in say, the Netherlands or Germany. Pay attention to how people carry themselves and what "types" are selected by Israeli society as successful, desirable types, and you'll do fine if you fit that.

Post: #13

Great analysis. But I think that travel reports are important, not so much to know if the guy have banged a lot of girls, but more on the objective issues like:
- Which is the best club, in which days;
- Wich hostel to stay;
- Cost of life;
- Which places with younger crowds;
- Places to eat;
- How to get there;
- What to avoid;

When I´ve been in Reykjavik I´ve noticed all the clubs would close at 01:00 am, from sunday to thursday (thursday at 02:am) and that I think is an important info. If I had that info before, I would have stayed in Copenhagen more time and only would have gone to reyka on Wednesday or thursday. There are also some places that if you hear a lot of people saying it´s hard to pick up girls , than it will probably be hard. Argentina is that kind of place. I´ve heard so many people saying that argentinians girls are as stupid as they are hot.
Till now there is one place in eastern europe where all the people that went there, as myself, found the girls hot and cool: Ostrava and desperado bar. One day I was talking to a czech girl that told me that all the girls from that region of Moravia, when they feel lonely, they go to Stodolni Street with the single purpose of meeting boys.
Till know I´ve only kissed one jew girl and couchsurfed another one. They were both good looking and easy to talk with. I´m making planes on going to Tel Aviv to visit the first one and hopefully hook up with others while I´m there.

Post: #14

(08-01-2009 06:16 AM)Pepini Wrote:  Till now there is one place in eastern europe where all the people that went there, as myself, found the girls hot and cool: Ostrava and desperado bar. One day I was talking to a czech girl that told me that all the girls from that region of Moravia, when they feel lonely, they go to Stodolni Street with the single purpose of meeting boys.

Pepini,

Can you do a travel report on Ostrava? Thanks.

Post: #15

(07-31-2009 09:19 PM)georgec Wrote:  Whether you will do well there or not really depends on how you fit into local perceptions of the "desirable male".

Georgec, everything you said is very correct, and very well written.
Of course good game always helps, but fitting the right mold is also very important. in fact, a large part of good game is fitting the mold (fashion, body language, etc.)

Post: #16

(07-31-2009 09:19 PM)georgec Wrote:  what matters is if you fit the local idea of a desirable guy is.

What is the local idea of a desirable guy in Tel Aviv? You never made it clear.

Post: #17

Regarding the hook up, in Tel aviv they will hook up with none jewish even a boyfriend for a short time, this is not a problem but as noted in one of the replies very few will go into serious relationship with none jewish as per tradition and society rather than religous issue.

Post: #18

how expensive is it backpack in Tel Aviv?

Post: #19

(07-24-2009 02:56 AM)chinogringo Wrote:  The darker ones were Middle Eastern Yeminite descent which had olive skin, curly hair, and again, curvy tight bodies.

I am trying to game one of these right now. She works at the mall in my city selling that Dead Sea stuff. She has only been here a week. Beautiful olive skin and curly hair, probably 19 or 20 or so. Looks promising so far, I have talked to her a couple of times and she seems interested in going out.

If you have these girls in your city, definitely try to game them. They are all high pressure sales at first, but when you break through that, they are just girls that are in a new country and they want to have fun.

Oh and btw, I am not Jewish, and she hasn't even asked, so it doesn't seem to be an issue for her.

Post: #20

(11-27-2009 06:51 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(07-24-2009 02:56 AM)chinogringo Wrote:  The darker ones were Middle Eastern Yeminite descent which had olive skin, curly hair, and again, curvy tight bodies.

I am trying to game one of these right now. She works at the mall in my city selling that Dead Sea stuff. She has only been here a week. Beautiful olive skin and curly hair, probably 19 or 20 or so. Looks promising so far, I have talked to her a couple of times and she seems interested in going out.

If you have these girls in your city, definitely try to game them. They are all high pressure sales at first, but when you break through that, they are just girls that are in a new country and they want to have fun.

Oh and btw, I am not Jewish, and she hasn't even asked, so it doesn't seem to be an issue for her.

Dude I saw the exact clone of the girl you describe here in the mall in Atlanta. She was asking me alot of personal question about if I was married..etc. However, I figured they do that to all the guys to pimp them into buying that cream. The girl here had sharp features, short with a banging rack (very low cut and tight shirt), azz , and very curly hair. I really thought she was Ethiopian and I was suprised she said she was from Isreal. She told me she was going back soon and she comes back and forth. She wanted me to buy those products so bad that everytime I passed on another upper level of the mall she would spot me and wave so I wouldn't forget to come back!

Post: #21

Remember any girl that's over 22ish and Israeli will be able to kick your ass. They've been through the mandatory military post highschool!

Post: #22

I think Israeli women are hot, but I´d say it´s very hard to successfully pull one. I went with one a few years ago, this was actually in the US where she was going to school, and the date ended up being a dud. She was smart, and it was easier to talk to her than it was with American girls, but I guess I couldn´t generate enough interest from her, so she ended up blowing me off.

Basically you need very good game, in addition to fitting a mold or type that they find attractive. I´m good looking, but my game sucks, but you might have better luck. Interesting that there aren´t any success stories with Izzy girls here though...

Post: #23

I'm planning a trip with a friend in October. Does anyone have a recommendation what part of town we should stay / get a hotel in? We're cluelessly googling around right now..

Post: #24

Dude, Isreali girls are fucking smoking! I went out with a girl from Telaviv a couple weeks ago, she was actually on Israels version of Beauty and the Geek. She was only in town a couple nights. The chick pissed me off. The first night we were supposed to go out we went and ate some dinner, we were supposed to go to the club after but she flaked on the club, saying she was gonna meet up with some friends. The second night we went out and things were going pretty good at first, then all of a sudden we venu change to another club and "magically" 3 of here friends are at the club (Funny how a girl from Tel Aviv runs into 3 of her Israeli friends at a club in Miami Beach huh?) All 3 of her friends are dudes. I automatically assume she text them at some point to meet up which pissed me off. At this point we go to another venu and there I decide I'm gonna find another girl, which I did. When the Israeli girl told me she was leaving and offered a ride I reffused. The next couple days she would see me at work and tell me to call her only to ignore my calls. I sent her a facebook request, she didn't except. Pretty sure she was bitter I met the other girl, but fuck her. She was a 9, but I'm at the point in my game where I don't deal with bullshit.

Post: #25

I just spent two weeks in Tel Aviv at the Hayarkon 48 hostel. Hayarkon is with out a doubt the best party hostel in town. Its pretty close to a lot of night life options and the beach is a block away. It costs 98 shekels for dorm, or 116 for dorm w/ A/C. I would say splurge for the A/C because otherwise you'll wake up at 7am from the heat.

I went out the first few nights that I was there then I started devoting my energy to the girls in the hostel. What brought about this change in strategy was one night when I went to a club on the beach called Clara. Israeli girls all watch Spanish soap operas and they loooove Spanish guys, so my opener was always "Hablas espanol?" I approached this one girl using this opener and got a very enthusiastic response. 20 seconds into the set her friend comes over and pushed me away from her friend saying "No thank you, no thank you." I stared there stunned for a second, said something I wouldn't say in front of my grandmother then walked away.

I had much better luck at the hostel. There were a lot of British and American girls that stayed there after they finished their birthright trips. I avoided them in favor of the Argentinians and Brazilians. They were all paired up but I hung out with them so I could keep my Spanish and Portuguese fresh. I ended up getting my Costa Rican flag at Hayarkon though.