Post: #1

I've been trying to design my lifestyle around being a "Digital Nomad" over the last few years. I already travel extensively for pleasure but the idea of working from far away places in the world is becoming highly possible and popular. I recently tried this during a trip to Bali (Indonesia) and it worked out just fine, although i am based out of Denver, CO.

The idea is to cut back on material stuff (furniture, lease, junk) that anchors you to a single city and develop a mobile lifestyle and a a profession that allows you to live and work remotely from anywhere in the world and make a living well (above $150k per year).

I realize there's not many jobs out there but in the new economy it seems more and more people are able to do this with an internet based business model or with a corporate job that allows you to work remotely, or a combination of both!

Ultimately, the idea is to travel the world, perhaps a few months in each target city - experience the culture, game, make friends and move to the next one - while also having a anchor/base city (to visit your family etc every now and then and recharge/regroup).

So if everyone on this forum could (hypothetically) was able to be a "digital nomad" which cities/countries would you live and work from in order of priority. My present list is below

May/June 2015 - Atlanta

July 2015 - Nashvillle

Aug/Sept 2015 - Chicago

Oct/Nov/Dec 2015 - Miami (With trips to Vegas in between)

Jan/Feb 2016 - Medelllin, Bogota, Baranquilla

March/April/May 2016 - California (San Diego, OC)

June/July/August 2016 - NYC

September/October 2016 -Montreal

Note: The idea is not to slum it out in hostels or private rooms etc but to live decently well in furnished sublet type apartments or air bnb cribs (whole apartments) or something nice and close to all the local action.

Looking forward to your constructive criticism and feedback!

Post: #2

Look into people like Sean Ogle at location180 who make a living out of this sort of stuff.

Sounds like you're moving around a lot, 2 months in a city feels a little short term to me, I'd like to go a little bit longer term and to get a good lease agreement you sometimes have to sign into a 6 month lease.

Also this thread: /thread-42643.html

Post: #3

First make the income you need. Then you won't need to make an itinerary, you'll just buy a ticket and book another apartment. And probably you won't care so much where you are, as long as there's a good internet connection.

Post: #4

(04-19-2015 03:46 AM)RawGod Wrote:  First make the income you need. Then you won't need to make an itinerary, you'll just buy a ticket and book another apartment. And probably you won't care so much where you are, as long as there's a good internet connection.

I wish it was that easy for me. If I am hitting a place for a week, then it's vacation mode and I probably won't do much work.

I need to develop a work routine which typically gets all fucked up when I hit a new place. Hell, time zones will screw things up quickly.

The big thing is being consistent with work otherwise you may see your income stream dry up.

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Post: #7

I've been doing this for the past couple of years. I'll end up traveling to Europe or Asia and I'll get very little work done. After a few months of partying, not working much, and gaining weight, I'll go back to NYC and get serious again. When I'm back in NYC I get back in shape and make a shit load of money. Eventually I get bored of NYC and I travel again. The cycle repeats itself. I very rarely plan anything out. And yes you should aim to make at least $150k. I pay a fortune for my NYC apartment but I just leave it alone when I don't want to be here. I'm not too worried about wasting money on rent- it's a tax write-off for me anyway. I haven't stayed in a hostel in about 4 years. 100% Airbnb and hotels.

As for making money, that's the difficult part. Don't expect to work part time if you want to make 150k online. I usually work 7 days a week.

Post: #8

(04-22-2015 02:12 PM)travolta Wrote:  I've been doing this for the past couple of years. I'll end up traveling to Europe or Asia and I'll get very little work done. After a few months of partying, not working much, and gaining weight, I'll go back to NYC and get serious again. When I'm back in NYC I get back in shape and make a shit load of money. Eventually I get bored of NYC and I travel again. The cycle repeats itself. I very rarely plan anything out. And yes you should aim to make at least $150k. I pay a fortune for my NYC apartment but I just leave it alone when I don't want to be here. I'm not too worried about wasting money on rent- it's a tax write-off for me anyway. I haven't stayed in a hostel in about 4 years. 100% Airbnb and hotels.

Does writing your apartment off as an expense save you in taxes what you are paying per month to rent it? Like if you are paying $3000 a month for a NYC apartment which you barely live in that cost you $36000 a year, are you actually able to erase paying $36000 from your taxes(or get a refund) and essentially have an apartment that's a net cost to you of zero?

If not, I can't understand paying rent for months on end for something very expensive that you are not occupying. It's one thing if it's a condo and you are building equity. Or even if you are renting but are subletting or putting it up on airbnb while gone so that you break even on rent. But if it's just an empty apartment that sounds like a major sunk cost.

And sure he can aim for $150k a year. Hell aim for $10 million a year if he wants. All I'm saying is that he absolutely does not need to make $150k a year in order to live the location independent lifestyle. Roosh made a post about his income last year on his main blog and it sounds like he makes about half that. Some guys make much less even than that and can live very well in countries with a low cost of living. I don't want the OP thinking he has to hold himself up from taking the plunge until he's making mid 6 figures. Unless you plan to be living like a baller in Norway.

Quote:As for making money, that's the difficult part. Don't expect to work part time if you want to make 150k online. I usually work 7 days a week.

This stands in stark contradiction to what yous said in your second sentence at the top.

Post: #9

(04-22-2015 02:12 PM)travolta Wrote:  I've been doing this for the past couple of years. I'll end up traveling to Europe or Asia and I'll get very little work done. After a few months of partying, not working much, and gaining weight, I'll go back to NYC and get serious again. When I'm back in NYC I get back in shape and make a shit load of money. Eventually I get bored of NYC and I travel again. The cycle repeats itself. I very rarely plan anything out. And yes you should aim to make at least $150k. I pay a fortune for my NYC apartment but I just leave it alone when I don't want to be here. I'm not too worried about wasting money on rent- it's a tax write-off for me anyway. I haven't stayed in a hostel in about 4 years. 100% Airbnb and hotels.

As for making money, that's the difficult part. Don't expect to work part time if you want to make 150k online. I usually work 7 days a week.

Hi Travolta,

do you make all your money online?

I mean, like 150k?

Post: #10

Just do like Roosh: Write a few interesting books, build a professional looking website, signup for an auto-responder/ email marketing service and grow your list. Not really rocket science, you just have to be patient and research how to market your service/ product efficiently; so you won't have to spend 10 years just to get 1000 subscribers.

Best way is to get a publicist as soon as you can afford one and try to get on talk shows, like Ellen, Tyra, etc, etc.

Hope that helped and good luck!

Post: #11

This website might be of use to you.

https://nomadlist.com/

Use it to supplement this forum's data sheets.

Post: #12

Quote: The idea is to cut back on material stuff (furniture, lease, junk) that anchors you to a single city and develop a mobile lifestyle and a a profession that allows you to live and work remotely from anywhere in the world and make a living well (above $150k per year).

Without starting your own business that is going to be pretty hard. Maybe less than 1% of all people online make over $150k a year working remotely.

Post: #13

(04-22-2015 04:52 PM)vilevigilant Wrote:  Just do like Roosh: Write a few interesting books, build a professional looking website, signup for an auto-responder/ email marketing service and grow your list. Not really rocket science, you just have to be patient and research how to market your service/ product efficiently; so you won't have to spend 10 years just to get 1000 subscribers.

Best way is to get a publicist as soon as you can afford one and try to get on talk shows, like Ellen, Tyra, etc, etc.

Hope that helped and good luck!

does anyone knows if roosh learning everything by himself?

Post: #14

(04-22-2015 04:52 PM)vilevigilant Wrote:  Just do like Roosh: Write a few interesting books, build a professional looking website, signup for an auto-responder/ email marketing service and grow your list. Not really rocket science, you just have to be patient and research how to market your service/ product efficiently; so you won't have to spend 10 years just to get 1000 subscribers.

Best way is to get a publicist as soon as you can afford one and try to get on talk shows, like Ellen, Tyra, etc, etc.

Hope that helped and good luck!

Not sure if serious...

Roosh has been writing since 2001 or so if I recall. He spent countless nights hitting on women. He trekked around South America and has been in Eastern Europe for years.

He has been on the SPLC list for mysogyny. He has been the scorn of feminists and SJW's. He has been featured on national programs for his antics.

I say this not to venerate Roosh, but to show how misleading your statement is. Roosh didn't just "publish a couple books". Tons of people do that but get nowhere. Roosh lived an incredible life and built a brand off that. It took years to do with a lot of hard effort.

To reduce his life's work to just a few books is a slap in his face and does a disservice to people who want to make money online. But I digress....

To be successful online, or in any area of life, is to develop a product or service that people are willing to pay top dollar for.

What are you good at? Is there a market for it? If so, what are you waiting for???

Post: #15

(04-22-2015 04:03 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Does writing your apartment off as an expense save you in taxes what you are paying per month to rent it? Like if you are paying $3000 a month for a NYC apartment which you barely live in that cost you $36000 a year, are you actually able to erase paying $36000 from your taxes(or get a refund) and essentially have an apartment that's a net cost to you of zero?

If not, I can't understand paying rent for months on end for something very expensive that you are not occupying. It's one thing if it's a condo and you are building equity. Or even if you are renting but are subletting or putting it up on airbnb while gone so that you break even on rent. But if it's just an empty apartment that sounds like a major sunk cost.



This stands in stark contradiction to what yous said in your second sentence at the top.

My apartment is my full time office. I live elsewhere. My entire office is a business expense. If i'm paying $36k/yr for it then I can deduct that full amount from my taxes. It does not have a net cost of $0 because my cashflow still takes a hit. Yes, I agree that it's a sunk cost, I just don't want somebody else living in my apartment when I'm gone and using my bed.

Regardless of whether it's a contradiction or not, you should be aiming working 7 days a week if you want to succeed at an online business, especially if it's your first few years in the industry. Even on days when I party all day and night, I always do at least a little bit of work.
[EDIT]: Just to clarify, I have a large team or partners and outsource workers, so sometimes I'm able to take days off. When it was only me working by myself I would work at least 8 hours every day, 7 days a week for at least 2 years. It's very difficult for me to travel and get a lot of work done. I do it anyway, but usually something takes a hit- either I work very little, or I work so much that I forget to go outside and experience the country I'm in.

Post: #16

Thanks, this is a very useful website.

(04-23-2015 07:52 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  This website might be of use to you.

https://nomadlist.com/

Use it to supplement this forum's data sheets.

Post: #17

(04-23-2015 09:41 PM)GlobeTrotter Wrote:  Thanks, this is a very useful website.

(04-23-2015 07:52 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  This website might be of use to you.

https://nomadlist.com/

Use it to supplement this forum's data sheets.

I looked at the cost of living for cities I've actually lived in and found the estimates way too low.

Post: #18

I only checked Saigon and it was accurate. But I assume if they are too low, the costs are being skewed by people who are really slumming it. The guys who live in a hovel in a rural area of Ukraine just so they can say they're a digital nomad.