Post: #26

Sounds like he is a bartender/waiter.

A co-worker just came back from Austin, Tx and can't stop raving about it.

Post: #27

The only info that I have is what he tells me, and so I'm not sure that my picture of will reflect reality precisely, but I can do my best.

He lives downtown, and his primary job is at a pretty well known and upscale restaurant that I won't name. In the daytime, he has been trying to break into one of the industries there, which i also can't name (its a small world). He's been working the restaurant gig and this other industry for two years now.

In his restaurant job, he meets a lot of eastern European and Australian tourists, that go there to eat, and who he hits on and has a good number of one night stands with (he'll tell them that some local dive bar is where actors, like James Franco, go to unwind anonymously. He'll invite them out, to these dive bars where the drinks don't get any cheaper, while having made it seem glamorous, and you can fill in the rest).

In his other job, he meets a lot of models and industry people that he networks with. He gets some bangs out of that. i think that his 'girl on the side' is from that world, and has the sketchy personality to match. He'll also go to industry events on his own dime.

Other than direct introductions from his two work places, I think he just meets girls while going out after work. That is how he met his current gf, just from going out to random bars on a consistent basis.

He does have a really nice apartment in a good location, too, that he shares with two roommates. I'm sure that helps, to a degree. But he didn't start there.

The core of his stable seems to be white girls (both of his girls are now - one is a 'model' from Sweden, the sketchy one, and the other is a good girl that works with kids - his gf), but I know he does and has fucked black ladies as well as some latinas. He showed me pics of a Chinese girl that he might bang, soon. Most of the ones he keeps around tend to be either in the industry world or a model, or they just have a good pedigree (meaning education and a good personality). The girls that he keeps around, currently, all live in Manhattan.

It should be noted that this dude is no slouch in the looks department, and has a pretty sculpted but lean physique. Maintaining that is a priority for him. He's not a gamesman in the sense that he studies it, and I know some of his success is looks based. However, he's learned a lot over the years and he definitely has a good deal of natural game, now.

Post: #28

(11-26-2011 06:25 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Sounds like he is a bartender/waiter.

A co-worker just came back from Austin, Tx and can't stop raving about it.

I would love to check out Austin on a short term basis. however, being that they predict that its going to run out of water within thirty years its hard to take it too seriously. But, I have heard that its fun. Just wouldn't want to make a life there. I think that im correct about the water thing, but maybe someone else has conflicting info.

Post: #29

(11-26-2011 04:51 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Here's a contrarian view:

My younger brother (28 years old) has been living in NYC for two years now. He just came home, to Philadelphia, for thanksgiving and so we had a lot of time to catch up. He gave me the breakdown.

In Philly, he was worried about getting laid because he believes Philly to be a sausage-fest, full of too many guys who are looking to wife up. He lived in downtown Philly for 4 years. Philly is very much like DC, in that regard. I agree with him, but we hang out at different venues an so my experience is slightly different. However, Philly does suck, generally.

In NYC, he said that his primary problem is deciding on which girl to bang.

His girlfriend, who he can't convince himself to fall in love with because he has too many options, is a hotter version of Scarlett Johansen (slimmer, better face and bigger tits). She's Cornell educated and is an actual 'good person' who teaches disadvantaged kids for a living. I saw a naked pic of her this weekend.

His girl on the side now, is a cunning bitch, but is also hot and exciting, is also banging a New York Ranger. Saw a pic of her too.

He said that when he tried to separate himself from his GF a couple of months ago, (while it didn't work - she pryed her way back in) he plowed through all of the female waitstaff at his work very quickly. He said that they didn't even care that they were all banging him one after the other

He also said new girls would come over just to get it in and leave, when he broke up with his girl.

In terms of bangs, he says he's in the triple digits, with a lot of that being in New York. Before he met his girl, he said he banged 15 girls in the first six months there. That is while working 60 hours per week.

So, it seems that New York is still a great playground if you have game. With the exception of his work situation, my brother is living a life that is hard not to envy a bit if you are a red blooded male. He said that his only real competition is older guys with money. Remember, this situation is with a guy who would worry about getting laid in a DC like environment. So, it bodes well for NYC still being a good place, generally.

Did you brother mention what venues he hits up and such? I am heading to NYC and would be interested to see where he finds these hot girls who are completely dtf.

Post: #30

Quote:Did you brother mention what venues he hits up and such? I am heading to NYC and would be interested to see where he finds these hot girls who are completely dtf.

I'm not sure. I don't think his game is venue dependent, though. He doesn't seem to prefer any one venue when I go up and visit. Generally, we just hit random bars. They're all pretty cheap.

Post: #31

(11-26-2011 11:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I'm starting to read an increase in negative reports coming out of NYC, specifically sausage fests and increased attitude. Anyone living there can give us an update on now versus two or three years ago?

LOL, I have been saying this for years. I thought I was the only one who thought this. Busted girls are easy but once you go up in quality, they become considerably harder. I read reports all the time over here of guys having a pussy buffet and I am wondering if we live in the same city or if quality control is an issue. imo, the guys who I see do very well(at least one new bad bitch a month) in NYC are guys who have niches locked down combined with lots of social proof(Dj's, Fireman, cops, shitty rappers, ESL teachers). Average guys, with average jobs, looks, money and Game have to settle for grenades. Plus, thirstiness both online and off is out of control, so heifers think they are Dimes. I am always surprised how friendly and cooperative chicks are outside NYC. in NYC if a lizard is friendly when you open her 99% of the time she's either a tourist or new to the city.

Quote:My main problem with NYC is how damn expensive it is to live in.

How do the NYC guys make it? Do you all work at hedge funds? Do you guys live in the ghetto areas? Do you guys live in tiny apartments with roommates?

Never had a roommate, I make it by having a decent paying job, living in the hood(Crown Heights, about 15 min away from Manhattan by subway) and living way below my means. Shiiiiit, I can write a data sheet on Brooklyn neighborhoods for days it is a world onto itself

Post: #32

(11-26-2011 07:02 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Quote:Did you brother mention what venues he hits up and such? I am heading to NYC and would be interested to see where he finds these hot girls who are completely dtf.

I'm not sure. I don't think his game is venue dependent, though. He doesn't seem to prefer any one venue when I go up and visit.

Ok makes sense... I'll rephrase it then. What does he do/where does he go to swoop these women? For example bars? clubs? lounges? hotel bars? etc...

Post: #33

Quote:Ok makes sense... I'll rephrase it then. What does he do/where does he go to swoop these women? For example bars? clubs? lounges? hotel bars? etc...

I don't think he has a preference, as far as I know, but I think he gravitates to cheap-ish bars for financial reasons and the fact that he is usually going out late, after work, with work friends. I would say 'no' to hotel bars and clubs, although I'm just guessing. I think he's hit it all up at one time or another. He spends a lot of his free nights with the girlfriend, and so, these days, I think new girls tend to come through social and work networks in the city - beyond the occasional tourist bang from work.

Post: #34

Through social cirlces/networks is the best way to meet women, especially in big cities in NYC, Toronto, etc. Sounds like he's livin the life lol.

Post: #35

(11-26-2011 07:21 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Through social cirlces/networks is the best way to meet women, especially in big cities in NYC, Toronto, etc. Sounds like he's livin the life lol.

ha...yeah, it sounds like it. but don't underestimate how boring pussy can become, especially if you have a shit work situation that overshadows it, or you are caught in a relationship that you aren't happy with (yeah, he's spoiled). The guy is stressed and is pretty much either non-stop working or trying to make things happen to get into a better work situation. Its the ultimate rat race up there. I don't feel bad for him as far as social life is concerned, though, that's for sure.

Post: #36

I spent a lot of time in NYC this past year, as I took a consulting project there for three months. I have a lot of good friends there who are constantly on the prowl and making moves, and most of us agree that the city has gotten pretty weak as of late. I really can't give it the edge over DC. In fact, most major US cities these days are slacking.

DC is what it is. Unlike NYC, it's not boasting to be the greatest city on earth nor is it claiming to be the most fun. The reason most people come to DC is for the jobs, and on that note, I gotta say it's as good as it gets for the US. It's now the wealthiest city in the US, has the most educated residents, and the lowest unemployment rate of any major US city. It's also easy to get in and out of, unlike NYC. There are plenty of cats who are stacking chips in DC and spending a lot of time on weekends traveling in and out of the country. There are definitely some decent girls here and there, but it's not the kind of city to expect to pull hot chicks from left and right.

DC is the kind of place where you do your business (get money), have your little roster of chicks, and live your life.

As for NYC, aside from the high end scene, its nightlife is not any better than DC, and its quality of life definitely isn't. I could name a bunch of US cities that are far better to live in than NYC. On the high end though, it's world class. You've got models, actresses, professional athletes, the global elite, etc. hopping in and out different venues throughout the year. Unless you've got the kind of paper that gives you access to that world, NYC is a hellhole.

One place that I haven't seen get its proper recognition in this forum is Montreal. Montreal is in my top three cities list for hot chicks. I've been all over Latin America, Europe, and Middle Eastern hotspots like Lebanon and Israel, among other places, but Montreal is going hard! Best of all, it's only a six hour drive from NYC (Craigslist rideshare is a popular means of traveling there from NYC, like $50). Summertime in Montreal can hold its own with any city in the world.

Post: #37

(11-26-2011 07:03 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

(11-26-2011 11:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I'm starting to read an increase in negative reports coming out of NYC, specifically sausage fests and increased attitude. Anyone living there can give us an update on now versus two or three years ago?

LOL, I have been saying this for years. I thought I was the only one who thought this. Busted girls are easy but once you go up in quality, they become considerably harder. I read reports all the time over here of guys having a pussy buffet and I am wondering if we live in the same city or if quality control is an issue. imo, the guys who I see do very well(at least one new bad bitch a month) in NYC are guys who have niches locked down combined with lots of social proof(Dj's, Fireman, cops, shitty rappers, ESL teachers). Average guys, with average jobs, looks, money and Game have to settle for grenades. Plus, thirstiness both online and off is out of control, so heifers think they are Dimes. I am always surprised how friendly and cooperative chicks are outside NYC. in NYC if a lizard is friendly when you open her 99% of the time she's either a tourist or new to the city.

I agree 100% with PWAP

There are alot of Busted/Grenade girls about in NYC. The dudes that are getting consistent pussy are the ones who have found their niche and are exploiting it. The Top tier of girls in this city is impressive. They mostly hangout in Meatpacking or the Industry events. Now you have to deal with the bitchiness of gaming these girls. Also the thirstiness you will find in NY dudes is embarrassing. The tourist girls/Au Pairs are cool as hell. i hate to reiterate everything.

Post: #38

(11-26-2011 09:12 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(11-26-2011 07:03 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

(11-26-2011 11:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I'm starting to read an increase in negative reports coming out of NYC, specifically sausage fests and increased attitude. Anyone living there can give us an update on now versus two or three years ago?

LOL, I have been saying this for years. I thought I was the only one who thought this. Busted girls are easy but once you go up in quality, they become considerably harder. I read reports all the time over here of guys having a pussy buffet and I am wondering if we live in the same city or if quality control is an issue. imo, the guys who I see do very well(at least one new bad bitch a month) in NYC are guys who have niches locked down combined with lots of social proof(Dj's, Fireman, cops, shitty rappers, ESL teachers). Average guys, with average jobs, looks, money and Game have to settle for grenades. Plus, thirstiness both online and off is out of control, so heifers think they are Dimes. I am always surprised how friendly and cooperative chicks are outside NYC. in NYC if a lizard is friendly when you open her 99% of the time she's either a tourist or new to the city.

I agree 100% with PWAP

There are alot of Busted/Grenade girls about in NYC. The dudes that are getting consistent pussy are the ones who have found their niche and are exploiting it. The Top tier of girls in this city is impressive. They mostly hangout in Meatpacking or the Industry events. Now you have to deal with the bitchiness of gaming these girls. Also the thirstiness you will find in NY dudes is embarrassing. The tourist girls/Au Pairs are cool as hell. i hate to reiterate everything.

Very true. The top tier chicks are definitely in the Meatpacking District. The spots there are really high end, obviously, and most of the hot chicks have the defensive shield up high, thanks to the desperate stans. You've really got to do it big to take advantage of the best that NYC has to offer (pop bottles, table service). The thirstiness of the dudes up there is definitely a disgrace for the East Coast name. We need to bring back that California "fuck a bitch" swagger pronto. I don't know what's gotten into NYC lately, but it has fallen off.

Post: #39

Quote:Shiiiiit, I can write a data sheet on Brooklyn neighborhoods for days it is a world onto itself

I think you should, would be an interesting read.

Post: #40

Quote:Shiiiiit, I can write a data sheet on Brooklyn neighborhoods for days it is a world onto itself

"Bust out a dope datasheet player."

Post: #41

I've spent a good amount of time in NYC over the past several years. What I see is guys getting older and losing their drive, and then complaining about the girls. Guys spend a significant amount of their social time among friends, their friends are aging too, and suddenly what would have been 22 year old girls become 29 year olds that have been drinking and sitting at a desk job for the past 7 years.

NYC is the easiest place to get laid because there are so many girls. By the numbers, its inevitable. Your not spending two hours a day in a car by yourself. When you walk out on the street there are people (if your in a good spot of Manhattan.) People are partying 7 days a week. I found it was easier to get laid during the week, because on the weekend girls are hanging out with their friends.

The "players" I know (or knew depending on who we are talking about) pulled so much ass it was mind boggling. And from the ones I saw these are good looking girls. These guys didn't know who the fuck Mystery was or what PUA meant. I tried to get myself in to that same "grove" but it never happened. Alcohol is absolutely critical to this; I'm not a big fan of drinking. Also I should add that the guys that did this from 21-30 burned the fuck out. I can think of two that are now in serious relationships (one engaged) to very questionable girls.

Here are the factors I think make NYC a win.

1 - Attractive girls can always make money. Attractive girls can support themselves here, in volume. The ones that go home without a job weren't attractive enough to become strippers, escorts, or model, so no loss. That fat ugly chick better be smart. She also has to get up at 7am for work so as long as you don't go out on Fridays and Saturdays you don't have to worry about "bumping" off of her.

2 - Logistics. Alcohol available virtually on every street corner + walking/quick cab ride = your getting laid if your not retarded.

3 - Attitude. Lucky for us all of these girls are trying to live out Sex and the City in their heads. (May be the downturn is from the new generation who didn't watch this?)

4 - Going city-crazy. This is my own theory I came up with. Being in this densely packed urban environment full of steel and concrete rather than flora makes girls more receptive to being attracted to males trying to get laid. Our brains didn't evolve living in this type of enclosed world. When I would be in the city for a month straight, and leave, it was like all of these tiny corridors of glass and metal just explodes open in to a vast space in your mind. I then imagine a girl who hasn't left the city since she was in the Hamptons 6 months ago. Your dick must be like some wizards magic wand to her?

And one final thing, the quality of life. Yeah, even if your making mid six figures a year you need to leave as frequently as possible.

As for DC, never been there.

Post: #42

No, NYC is not like DC. I only know about Manhattan. Hot girls are constantly moving to/moving out of NYC. I can't imagine NYC not having an abundance of girls.. I will say that I have been seeing A LOT of Asian girls lately, far less European girls than I used to see a few years ago, and rarely any Latinas other than Puerto Rican and Domincans.. Girls at night do tend to have shitty attitudes.. even ugly girls. It's quite sad, makes me want to save my energy for better things. Seems like most of the decent girls I meet are either tourists or not from NYC. Day game is where it's at in NYC.

Post: #43

(11-26-2011 07:21 PM)1bliss Wrote:  Through social cirlces/networks is the best way to meet women, especially in big cities in NYC, Toronto, etc. Sounds like he's livin the life lol.

Social circle and networks are the lamest way of meeting women.

Post: #44

NYC has a ton of high quality women. If the quality is high, attitudes should also be expected to be high.

It's only when attitudes are disproportionately higher than physical appearance when guys should be upset (DC, TO, Seattle, Copenhagen, etc.). This is what makes these cities particularly distasteful.

Post: #45

I'm surprised Gmac has not weighed in, form what I understand you've been hitting NYC pretty hard.

Post: #46

"NYC is the easiest place to get laid because there are so many girls. By the numbers, its inevitable. Your not spending two hours a day in a car by yourself. When you walk out on the street there are people (if your in a good spot of Manhattan.) People are partying 7 days a week. I found it was easier to get laid during the week, because on the weekend girls are hanging out with their friends."

^^This. Plus NYC has never ending opportunities for day game (lunch hours of large buildings, girls waiting to cross the street, central park or union square anytime weather is decent). Events and social proof are where it's at for night game in my opinion. I live here half the year and love it.

Post: #47

(11-26-2011 07:03 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Shiiiiit, I can write a data sheet on Brooklyn neighborhoods for days it is a world onto itself

Bust it out playa!

I'm dying to get updated on the bitches walking the hood-shops in Knickerbocker (aka hookerbocker) and Myrtle Ave - I remember how easy it was to find a fuck buddy in these areas back in the day...way before Myspace, and way before Facebook fucked it up for every man alive.

Mixx.

Post: #48

The thing about tier 1 global cities like NYC, London, Paris etc. is that everyone always complains about how terrible they are (too expensive, unfriendly etc.etc.) and yet many thousands of mostly young people still move there month after month without fail.

I don't know Paris well, but both NYC and London have been much better to me than smaller cities. I put it down to the fact that cute but not stunning girls (say 7's), see litterally 100's of girls hotter than themselves every day they bother to leave their apartments. back in kansas they were hot stuff, but now they have serious competition. Although obviously there are also more high value guys in proportion chicks really don't think logically/statistically, so all they see are loads of other chicks better than them. Probably deflates the ego a bit. Which is why I have found NYC chicks to be amongst the most open and friendly I have seen anywhere.

I will add that I haven't been there for around two years now, so I suppose something may have changed, who knows. Also I'm not in a position to roll in the top tier places. So no models only clubs in the meatpacking district, if they really exist... which I doubt. Nights out would usually be at more accesable places in the West Village, Soho and maybe the East Village for some Japanese Izakaya's. Maybe guys just need to be more realistic. By that I mean focus on girls the same or max 1 or 2 points lower on the SMV scale.

Lastly. Never been to DC. From comments on this site it sounds awfull. Is it really that bad? I want to visit the next time I'm in the US to see the Air and Space Museum. Should I just not bother staying more than a day? Maybe make it a really long day trip from NY.

Post: #49

Bad Hussar,

If you just want to see the sights and sites, then DC is great. If you like Air & Space, you should definitely check out the A&S Annex, which houses the most badass plane ever built (SR-71 Blackbird). Two days here should be enough. The main (fairly accurate) complaint about DC is that it is full of 5-7's who think they are 8-10's, women are not very stylish or feminine, bad M/F ratios at night at most venues, girls are credentialists, and it's pretty expensive to live here.

Post: #50

NYC still has a TON of concentrated, good looking women who are much more into fashion / looking good and taking care of themselves... I take a few trips up to NYC every year now. It's not becoming DC, not by a longshot. The women have a much different air about them, you can spot an out of towner a mile away. Luckily for me, I tend to blend in wherever I go.

The only downside is there are still a ton of masculine, short haired artsy types too -- as well as the prissy "I'm going to dress up my dog to take him out" divas. All in all for me, if DC is a 5/10, NYC is a 7.5/10. And as bad as DC is, there are far worse places to live in the US and in the world.