I have been living in Germany for many years and from my own experience . there are as much beauties as ugly ones. But many of them beautiful and ugly have that way of thinking ''if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deser..''
Life here is boring and it is more about social circles, which doesnt make things easy to flirt

German don't know what flirting means, it's simply not in their culture.

(06-11-2016 11:08 AM)Lino Wrote:  German don't know what flirting means, it's simply not in their culture.

the German men flirt but the attitude of women don't make it easy. The german women can be sometimes very rude and don't make effort to go talk to them

@pokerbaby

because northern germany is pretty much the same. I have lived all over northern germany and dont find much differences with nl. denmark also has tall blonde aryan looking women everywhere.. but regular western white guys find those girls nice looking but not the most beautiful of all... they usually prefer more the east euro or latina looking types. I guess when you are an exotic looking dude yourself .. or some kind of dark headed ethnicity (practically anything not central/northern or easten europeab) you tend to regard " pure blonde/white" women as the most beautiful. On a serious note the most underlooked country is norway, specially when you compare it with its neighbour sweden. I havent seen as many talent anywhere as there is in norway, thank god its expensive as hell and it keeps all those thirsty dudes away.

As a German I can only say: Most Germans know how to work, but they don't know how to live. I would never go to Germany for gaming purposes. Most German girls are not very attractive because they don't know how to dress, how to wear make-up or how to behave in a feminine way in general. Of course there are exceptions (as everywhere), but these exceptions know about their value.

(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

I think Dutch girls are some of the most overrated women in the world. Not in this message board but in many online surveys. I can't believe when I see Dutch women as being top ten in the world. Imo they are too big and masculine.

Also Dutch men are in general taller and better looking than average men, so the competition is very tough for below average looking women.

(06-12-2016 07:12 AM)NerdyNomad Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

I think Dutch girls are some of the most overrated women in the world. Not in this message board but in many online surveys. I can't believe when I see Dutch women as being top ten in the world. Imo they are too big and masculine.

Also Dutch men are in general taller and better looking than average men, so the competition is very tough for below average looking women.

Getting very OT, but: can you then explain why so many supermodels are Dutch and South African? A masculine look isn't very much preferred in a model.

Dutch girls might be big-boned (can't agree with them being masculine) but they do largely represent Western (i.e. global) standards of female beauty as an average.

Either the modelling agencies have extremely out of whack tastes, or we're so far on the manosphere gravy train that we're after yet another Germanic race to rag on.

Dutch girls are indeed big and masculine (in the attitude), they control their man who became completely pussyfied, feminism did a terrible damage there...but this is indeed off topic.

(06-12-2016 07:36 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  Getting very OT, but: can you then explain why so many supermodels are Dutch and South African? A masculine look isn't very much preferred in a model.

Dutch girls might be big-boned (can't agree with them being masculine) but they do largely represent Western (i.e. global) standards of female beauty as an average.

Either the modelling agencies have extremely out of whack tastes, or we're so far on the manosphere gravy train that we're after yet another Germanic race to rag on.

The simple answer is that if we generalize over the many different subsets of modelling, height is probably THE most important criteria for nearly all types modelling one could consider.

Quote:While there are some exceptions, in most cases female commercial models have to be at least 5'6 or 5'7 and usually no more than 5'11 tall

source: https://models.com/help/005-what_are_requirements.html

Seeing as the Netherlands is one of the tallest countries in the world, the average female height is around 1.70m (5'7).

Now couple that with the fact that Dutch girls do have a lot of other features that are advantageous, such as a high diversity in hair color (blondes, brunettes, gingers, etc.) and eye color, and it doesn't come as much of a surprise that the Netherlands produces a lot of models.

because not every woman there is a model. some countries might produce a poll of 10-20 % women who could potentially grow up as models. As I have explained it before, being a tall country helps a lot. Women In germanic nations, specially in Northern Germany, Netherlans and Denmark often have the tall , blond, blue eyed combination which might call your attention if you come from pretty much anywhere else but northern europe, however after awhile when you get used to look at women like that it gets pretty generic and those women are just attractive, there is something that they severly lack that you can find in many eastern european women for example, and its not only about attitude but looks aswell. Finding a woman in a picture attractive is way different than being attracted to her long term on the daily basis, there are many factors involved.

(06-12-2016 07:12 AM)NerdyNomad Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

I think Dutch girls are some of the most overrated women in the world. Not in this message board but in many online surveys. I can't believe when I see Dutch women as being top ten in the world. Imo they are too big and masculine.

Also Dutch men are in general taller and better looking than average men, so the competition is very tough for below average looking women.

I understand, but Sweden gets a ton of attention on this site. Swedish women have a lot in common with the Dutch in terms of looks. + feminism. Swedish men are also good looking dudes with money and style.

Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland all got their own threads but there is very little attention to the Netherlands.

(06-12-2016 09:09 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 07:12 AM)NerdyNomad Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

I think Dutch girls are some of the most overrated women in the world. Not in this message board but in many online surveys. I can't believe when I see Dutch women as being top ten in the world. Imo they are too big and masculine.

Also Dutch men are in general taller and better looking than average men, so the competition is very tough for below average looking women.

I understand, but Sweden gets a ton of attention on this site. Swedish women have a lot in common with the Dutch in terms of looks. + feminism. Swedish men are also good looking dudes with money and style.

Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland all got their own threads but there is very little attention to the Netherlands.

Netherlands has their threads too, and denmark has even less threads and usually are all negative,just read the don't bang denmark of roosh, talking about them like they are the ugliest women and worse than in the UK.

Most people open threads about germany to openly bash it and to put it in the same level as the UK when there is a clear difference, and germany as bad as for some people might be is leagues above the UK or anywhere in the anglo world. Also its rooshvforum and in the travel thread its about a mix of looks vs availability vs affordability.

There is no reason to go to a country where women might look good or be of your type if they are not interested in you, of if logistics are pretty bad,(expensive country, women prefer local men,no flirting culture, huge language wall, big social circles, racism).

The only germanic/nordic nation which usually has positive feedback is sweden

Finland: femminist frozen yetis
Northern germany, Netherlands, Denmark: too tall and masculine.
Iceland: overweight and femminists.
Norway: too ridiculous expensive, I have heard them being called fat lol when they have the lowest index of obesity in all europe (with romania and switzerland)
Southern Germany/Austria: not worth the visit compared to their eastern neighbours..

Also there is a huge factor in the netherlands, 3 cities are already 50%+ foreign background, and quite a few are in the 20-35%. There is no exotic factor in the netherlands unlike in parts of scandinavia. In germany its a weird situation, even in places with little foreigners people tend to be quite racist. All blackheads (non germanic/nordic looking people) are regarded as lower.

Hey guys! I would say it’s very tough in Germany, I’m confident, dress nice and have solid Game, I’ve talked to dozens of girls here, mostly German, ALL of them say they had boyfriends bla bla, I don’t know if all of them was honest, I think cold approach simply doesn’t work and that getting to know girls here only works through social circles and friends although I do get some nice looks and smiles here and there but that often comes from 5s and 6s and I like 8s and 9s.
I once exchanged numbers with a Ukrainian chick, an 8 I would say, strangely she was very nice and positive while we were talking in person, then she all of the sudden blocked me!
I didn’t want to write a new thread because there are enough threads on this subject.
I’m basically more into blondes, do you think I should just travel to Czech Republic or Poland in that regard?

(05-17-2018 05:37 AM)LuckyBird Wrote:  Hey guys! I would say it’s very tough in Germany, I’m confident, dress nice and have solid Game, I’ve talked to dozens of girls here, mostly German, ALL of them say they had boyfriends bla bla, I don’t know if all of them was honest, I think cold approach simply doesn’t work and that getting to know girls here only works through social circles and friends although I do get some nice looks and smiles here and there but that often comes from 5s and 6s and I like 8s and 9s.
I once exchanged numbers with a Ukrainian chick, an 8 I would say, strangely she was very nice and positive while we were talking in person, then she all of the sudden blocked me!
I didn’t want to write a new thread because there are enough threads on this subject.
I’m basically more into blondes, do you think I should just travel to Czech Republic or Poland in that regard?

For blonds, go to Sweden. You're welcome

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...

(I lived there in the 80’s and loved it)

Because, imo, there's nothing really special about German girls.

Are they the easiest?: yes and no
are the incredibly hot?: no
are the feminine?: maybe, but not even close to the EE counterparts
Can I get a whole new cultural/travel adventure by going to Germany? no (im from the US - they're both developed countries)

I could go on

I have met many German girls while traveling, and while they are nice and open minded, I feel like this forum seeks out non-Anglo countries or "exotic countries" that are developing or off the beaten path. And so do I - why would I travel across the ocean just to go to a country that is somewhat similar to mine?

That being said, I have never had a negative interaction with a German girl and they seem much more down to earth, cultural, and chill than American girls

As a German, I can say German girls more often than not have quite masculine appearances combined with leftist mindsets. That being said, it can be fun to trigger them with politically incorrect comments, but surely wouldn't bang most of them, let alone travel to Germany for girls

I didn't spend much time in Germany but I find most Germans uninspiring in person. Dare I day this, the average American probably has tenfold the charisma of a German.

Reason enough not to consider for anything more than a brief visit.

(05-18-2018 01:47 AM)tobehero Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 05:37 AM)LuckyBird Wrote:  Hey guys! I would say it’s very tough in Germany, I’m confident, dress nice and have solid Game, I’ve talked to dozens of girls here, mostly German, ALL of them say they had boyfriends bla bla, I don’t know if all of them was honest, I think cold approach simply doesn’t work and that getting to know girls here only works through social circles and friends although I do get some nice looks and smiles here and there but that often comes from 5s and 6s and I like 8s and 9s.
I once exchanged numbers with a Ukrainian chick, an 8 I would say, strangely she was very nice and positive while we were talking in person, then she all of the sudden blocked me!
I didn’t want to write a new thread because there are enough threads on this subject.
I’m basically more into blondes, do you think I should just travel to Czech Republic or Poland in that regard?

For blonds, go to Sweden. You're welcome

Lol, thanks man, I actually love Scandinavia and speak a bit of all the three languages, above all Danish to be specific, I like Denmark and it’s culture, less so the girls’ mentality there, on the forum I’ve read a lot about guys’ experiences in Scandinavia, didn’t seem that great but definitely worth trying.

(05-18-2018 03:41 AM)oceanic Wrote:  As a German, I can say German girls more often than not have quite masculine appearances combined with leftist mindsets. That being said, it can be fun to trigger them with politically incorrect comments

I can totally confirm this!

I have had many bad interactions with Germans....period. Now, I have to take responsibility for my part of the interaction. But I notice that Germans always wanted to argue about politics. Blame George Bush for the worlds problems...Even after the motherfucker was not president for 10+ years!!! I met some younger German tourists in NYC a few years ago. They chitchatted with me about just traveling in America.

I met a bunch of early 20 year olds in Tallinn, Estonia on a party tour of the Baltics. They wanted to just get drunk and have a good time. So, there are good memories. But overall...I have not had good luck.

Does this mean I will write off the whole country, because of 4 or 5 expieriences? I know better than to do that. But culturally, I have had issues with having decent occurences with them.

Every German girl I met in Berlin wanted to discuss social issues and shit then theyd get shocked when they find out I have polar opposite views.

When they're hot though they're VERY hot. The skin and brightness of their eyes as well as curves makes them Superior to ee ones when the rest of their genes line up.

I met a gorgeous German who was a self professed "little bit Nazi" at a bakery and she turns out to be.... A high end prostitute from another city there to see a client. The only normal interaction I had was with a gorgeous Nazi prostitute.

I have met many Germans while traveling and they all seem really nice, chill, non-confrontational, and down to earth

Are the Germans that travel generally different than the Germans in Germany?

They're TOO nice, in a way.

Its incredible that this thread was resurrected again!

In my own experience:

German girls outside Germany: Easy. Not as easy as girls from the USA, but close second. They fall for the typical touristic bullshit of "Pray, Eat, Love".
German girls inside Germany: Way harder. All the masculine aspects and leftism is a big turndown. The more femenine are in the south.