(11-30-2016 10:08 AM)Mjölnir Wrote: I'm sorry if the answer to this has been said before in this thread, and I'm pretty sure it's been extensively discussed.
But, how big would a guy have to be, so that his physical power it's so big that an martial artist would not be able to take him down/have a really hard time doing it. You guys were talking about wrestling a bear and that tought came to my mind.
I'm 6ft and had my fair share of street fights, some against 3-5 dudes, I don't get intimidated easily. I have 2 years of boxing/1.5 year of muay thai (I know i'm a noob, and can get my ass kicked by pretty much everyone one of you guys posting on this thread) and I fooled around with BJJ for a few months and learned to defend myself against it because my cousin was crazy about it and would attack me when I was playing video games,walking on the street, basically he would try to choke me, get a kimura, etc.. ramdomly, so I got relatively good at avoiding getting caught.
Nevertheless on a street situation I can't help but feel intimidated if a guy is above 6'5 ~220 lbs.
Have any of you guys ever had to fight a much larger opponent ? How did you handle it ?
No, this has not been asked before. This is a good question.
It just varies. If I am walking around @ 230 and I have above average strength for someone at my weight, regardless of height, I would be a problem to deal with for any man under 260 with similar strength. My heavyweights around that size or higher were often too hard to roll with once they got passed blue belt, typically. Back then I usually was around 180lbs though.
Taller guys are not as much of an issue for anyone with grappling or SJM (Small Joint Manipulation) skills. Just don't see a 6'5" threat that is taking a boxing stance and think you should try and out box him (if you notice your reach is better and your weights are similar, it's okay), if it would be more reasonable to pick his ankle for a fast single leg takedown. If his ass is on the ground, none of that height will help him at all. If he kicks at you from down there, just don't let him kick your kneecaps. Stomp his groin, his ankle, Muay Thai kick his legs, only jump stomp his face or head, if he is hurt or gassed out. Just don't let him get back on his feet. If he tries, roundhouse his face or trip sweep him again.
If you have enough BJJ skills, it's pretty self explanatory. Ankle lock, Achilles lock, toe holds, heel hooks, and any other leg submission (Russian Leg Sambo stuff), is better. Breaking or snapping those ligaments (MCL, ACL, etc.) will take him out of a fight completely. 1 vs 1, BJJ is awesome no doubt. Especially against people that do not know it. I would imagine that street fighting in Brazil (something very dangerous in general), gives you little advantages because lots of others can fight in these styles as well. Many also have guns and knives. I personally do not think you can know enough martial arts in Brazil and it be enough for all situations.
Anyway, when someone is 20 pounds more than you with similar strength levels, the more likely leverage fighting styles, will be your better bet. Leverage styles are just about anything grappling/SJM (JJ, Aikido, Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Wrestling). If they have back up, stick to standard multiple opponent defense.
The only time striking a very large guy makes sense is if that is:
1. Your only skillset.
2. You are faster and know it.
3. You have enough room for footwork and moving around. (small cramped spaces is a no go)
4. He grabs you and you have no choice but to clinch fight. (Yet another reason why
all style of kickboxers need good clinch game)
5. There are multiple opponents and you cannot find a wall for a backstop or on two sides.
6. You can hit his weak spots well and know how (temple on the head, groin, MCL on knee, palm strike at Nose, knee/uppercut to chin, hook/elbow to the side of the eye socket, etc.)
7. You have a force multiplier (A baseball bat, baton/stick, brass knuckles, knife, a rock, etc.)
Avoid at all costs fighting people 50 pounds heavier with equal or more strength.
True story that happened not too long ago. I was in deep East Texas traveling through. A roided out skinhead was walking down the street talking to himself kinda loud. I was trying to get some gas for my car. As he got closer, I could see he probably was about 265-275 with maybe a bodyfat around 17% or so, if I had to take a wild guess. Dude started mugging me and started grinning very big. I had not started to pump the gas yet, so I put everything back and got back in the car and left.
Real talk, that guy was so yoked out, I knew 100% for a fact, I would not be able to even armbar him. He would have just lifted his arm and tossed me off him. Anytime a guy looks like he can bench press you into the air, respect that power and just leave the area if he is acting like an asshole. My family was with me as well and there are plenty other places to get gas. That area has bad racial history and skinhead WN gangs are common there, unlike Houston area proper. If that guy was high on painkillers or meth, forget it. 10 police officers would not be able to hold him down. A taser might not faze him much either. As I left, I saw him watching me leave, and he was nodding his head, like he was a laughing. You think I cared?
The best fights are always the ones you avoid.