Post: #1

This is a reminder for myself and for others regardless if it's newbies or not.

Sometimes we get caught up in good conversations with a girl that allows us to sometimes express our own opinions that may not jive well with the girl. I think we've all done it at one point or another.

REMEMBER fellas, stay neutral on a lot of topics and most importantly AGREE and AMPLIFY with the chick to maintain that good vibe. You are not looking for a GF off the bat but just a quick lay. It shouldn't matter if her views are different than yours as your motives are quite different anyways.

I'm just writing this as I just fell into the trap the other night. I was almost guaranteed a lay and f'd it up discussing various conspiracy theories with this girl and then coming across a disagreement. Fvck! I knew right then and there I f'd up but it was too late. She works early but probably wouldn've stayed out later and invited me over if that hadn't happened. Of course after that, she said she needed her sleep and needed to get home early. LOL.

REMEMBER: Put your beliefs/opinions to the side and just AGREE and AMPLIFY with whatever the girl is saying. You're only there to bone her, not have a good logical conversation with her.

Post: #2

Your conversations with girls you have not banged should always be


-------------------------SEX--------------------------

Period

Post: #3

I don't pretend to have other beliefs, if a girl is in front of me.
To me, falling into deep subjects, which made the mood heavier, was your mistake.
Not disagreeing with her.

Girls don't use arguments and don't listen to them, it's a waste of time to try to convince a girl of anything using logic.
It also dries their pussies very quickly.

Always talk about playfull subjects, when around a girl you want to nail.

Post: #4

(07-27-2017 01:47 PM)Latan Wrote:  Always talk about playfull subjects, when around a girl you want to nail.

Give us the list of playful topics you discuss around women?

Post: #5

(07-27-2017 02:27 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(07-27-2017 01:47 PM)Latan Wrote:  Always talk about playfull subjects, when around a girl you want to nail.

Give us the list of playful topics you discuss around women?

The weather.

Post: #6

(07-27-2017 01:47 PM)Latan Wrote:  I don't pretend to have other beliefs, if a girl is in front of me.
To me, falling into deep subjects, which made the mood heavier, was your mistake.
Not disagreeing with her.

Girls don't use arguments and don't listen to them, it's a waste of time to try to convince a girl of anything using logic.
It also dries their pussies very quickly.

Always talk about playfull subjects, when around a girl you want to nail.

While I agree with you and this is normally how it goes down a lot of the times, this last girl was an attorney so I had to slightly up my conversation topics and venture slightly deeply. She's not turned on by dummies or stupid topics to talk about which would've sent me packing right away.

I guess I just need to fine tune topics and steering them, with more intellectual gals(doctors, lawyers, etc) to keep them still interested with some kind of intelligent convo while not turning them off. LOL

Post: #7

(07-27-2017 02:27 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(07-27-2017 01:47 PM)Latan Wrote:  Always talk about playfull subjects, when around a girl you want to nail.

Give us the list of playful topics you discuss around women?

Should be only one: them and sex*. Playfully woven together

* Nothings more important to them than them & nothing takes you where you want to go faster than talking about it. Of course knowing how direct and far to go is the nuanced part.

Edit

(07-27-2017 03:06 PM)chitown72 Wrote:  While I agree with you and this is normally how it goes down a lot of the times, this last girl was an attorney so I had to slightly up my conversation topics and venture slightly deeply. She's not turned on by dummies or stupid topics to talk about which would've sent me packing right away.

I guess I just need to fine tune topics and steering them, with more intellectual gals(doctors, lawyers, etc) to keep them still interested with some kind of intelligent convo while not turning them off. LOL

If they're older than 26-27 max youre doing it wrong.

Post: #8

I don't think the topic matters as much as confident frame. I used to hate running into girls who threw their degrees or fancy job titles at me but I think those are the easiest, most desperate cries for cock if you can brush past their bullshit.

Of course a girl giving you attitude, saying she's a "psychologist" is probably a lie. Girls who are actually smart don't seem to care as much about the deepness of the topic so much as genuineness and a guy who can relax.

I made the mistake of trying to talk to a neurologist about psychology and watched her eyes glaze over with boredom. I saw her another time and just joked around and had fun and we were laughing it up together.

I didn't get the bang tho so I'm still not an expert.

Post: #9

(07-27-2017 02:27 PM)Iso Wrote:  Give us the list of playful topics you discuss around women?

To me, any topic which provides a playfull connection between me and her.
I don't have a list of topic I'll try to insert into a conversation.

But if she tries to send her degree on my face, as if it should impress me, I'll play with it and change the subject.

Let's have an example:

Her : I'm a lawyer / doctor and I only date intellectual men.
Me : You're in luck sweety, I'm very intellnb... intellac... (pretending not to be even able to spell the word, with a face showing fake signs of great efforts. Then with a big smile : ) ...well, this word.
Her : (It must be obvious you were joking, you must see it on her face, even if she doesn't say anything, she should smile with you).
Me : By the way, have you ever been to *insert cool place*? I was there a month ago and blablabla...

To me, the key is not to take anything she says (AND anything you say) seriously.
Play with it, showing confidence and developping attraction.

Edit : to me, a bad answer would be to say "Oh you like intellectual men? I'm an engineer and read books about mathematics every day".
On top of the fact she'll instantly lose attraction, you should never try to prove her you're worth it.
You ARE worth it, and you deeply know it.
She is the one who must qualify in order to spend time with you.
And to do so, she just has to play along with you.

Post: #10

Agree the best topic of discussion is HER. May be boring sometimes, but it entertains her Throw in some DHVs and light teasing and you're good.

Chitown - good general idea to add a thread on a basic concept. I was thinking after a recent date how well all the basic "rules" actually work. A basic concept like push-pull for example has been key to my last two lays. And early and confident kino has also worked wonders. I think sometimes I over complicate things.

Post: #11

Honestly ?

Let the females do the talking - I teased my date last night for talking too much - she apologized via text and thanked me for the night this morning.

Conversation flow is an easy thing to work with but try to make it as organic as possible.

Girls love to spill their shit onto you - if any drama or gossiping comes up I always say, "You know I charge by the half hour and talk my payment in drinks" - with a big smile of course. They always laugh or playfully slap me.

I've had disagreements and still gotten lays.

I DON'T TALK ABOUT POLITICS - I make this clear by saying, "You know they always say don't talk about religion, politics or sex when on a date - but in all reality every conversation leads to sex on way or another" or I simply say, "I'm tired of politics, I've been done talking about it for awhile"

I do talk about how dudes act like pussies nowadays - talk about leading, direction, having fun on dates etc.

I don't specifically talk about sex but I'll sure as hell make sex jokes.


In reality, filtering towards sex the is the goal, but you've got comfort game (don't scare the cat) and also gotta connect with her (make her gina tingle).


ALWAYS treat them like a little sister - anything she says seriously turn it into a tease a segue into a funny story.

That seems to work best for me - my date last night was complaining about a terrible date where the questions weren't organic, he was quiet, he talked about conspiracy theories (oddly enough), and then asked her fears.

He kept poking fun at her for it way too much and pissed her off and she shortly ended the date.

Post: #12

For us more refined gentlemen that hang around more intelligent, sophisticated girls, discussions not related to sex, or them or other brainless things actually is game leading to sex.

Disagreeing with them, out maneuvering them and showing mental agility gets these girls panties off.

Know your target, know your game.

I prize pussy with a brain attached, so its more of a thing for me.

Post: #13

(07-27-2017 04:53 PM)NordicTom Wrote:  Agree the best topic of discussion is HER. May be boring sometimes, but it entertains her Throw in some DHVs and light teasing and you're good.

Chitown - good general idea to add a thread on a basic concept. I was thinking after a recent date how well all the basic "rules" actually work. A basic concept like push-pull for example has been key to my last two lays. And early and confident kino has also worked wonders. I think sometimes I over complicate things.

Yeah I always try to push the topic of discussion on her as I'm usually the one that always has to lead as usual with convo's but the smart ones will try to push it back about you.

I agree with just reminding yourself of all the basic concepts and keeping it simple. I always do kino on the first date which usually leads to kissing at the very least. Push-Pull ALWAYS worked if I got her back to her place.

(07-27-2017 05:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Honestly ?

Let the females do the talking

I don't specifically talk about sex but I'll sure as hell make sex jokes.


ALWAYS treat them like a little sister

If you don't talk on a date with the smarter women, they will drop you like a hot-cake around here at least. They wanna know you got a brain and are also an independent thinker and good conversationalist.

I agree with the sex jokes. Throughout the night I always try to steer it towards sex. One girl flat out said I'm not going to sleep with you tonight but I will on the second date because I wanna see you again. LOL

Conversations with women should typically be the kind of conversations you have with kids. You can't carry on any kind of logical and meaningful convos on most subjects with them and expect them to understand you fully. It's even easier if you have kids of your own as it will be second nature.

(07-27-2017 07:36 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  For us more refined gentlemen that hang around more intelligent, sophisticated girls, discussions not related to sex, or them or other brainless things actually is game leading to sex.

Disagreeing with them, out maneuvering them and showing mental agility gets these girls panties off.

Know your target, know your game.

I prize pussy with a brain attached, so its more of a thing for me.

I agree with this and is something I'm working at getting right all the time. Brainless girls are easy compared to the intelligent/sophisticated ones that have a lot of options and can actually think.

Post: #14

(07-28-2017 10:28 AM)chitown72 Wrote:  

(07-27-2017 05:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Honestly ?

Let the females do the talking

I don't specifically talk about sex but I'll sure as hell make sex jokes.


ALWAYS treat them like a little sister

If you don't talk on a date with the smarter women, they will drop you like a hot-cake around here at least. They wanna know you got a brain and are also an independent thinker and good conversationalist.

I agree with this and is something I'm working at getting right all the time. Brainless girls are easy compared to the intelligent/sophisticated ones that have a lot of options and can actually think.

AWALT

Even the smart/sophisticated ones.

I'm not looking to have a political, inspirational, intellectual, soul searching conversation with a woman. I have the forum for that.

I'm looking to get into her pants and fuck her -but I obviously want to enjoy and to get to known the person.

This means - getting to know her personally, not the shit around her.

FUCK HER MIND.

Typically I'd say I'm the smartest of us two, I haven't met a girl whose my match.

Matter of fact one of my plates is an Indian book smart girl - but socially inept.

She literally ask me the stupidest sex questions the other day - and she's in a biological/med field FFS.

Most girls who have their shit together and are on a date with you want to unwind, laugh, and have a good time.


I'm not saying don't talk much - I'm saying let her do most the talking and work the conversation organically to your advantage by dropping knowledge, stories, adventures, etc where applicable.


I get what you're saying about looking like a smart, well mannered, intelligent, and seasoned man (aka the most interesting man in the world).

Post: #15

One of the best ways to pass shit-tests or pass LMR is agree & amplifying imo.

Ex. Setting up date over text situation.
Her: I might not be able to hang out with you tonight.
Me: Yeah, you are right, it might not be the best idea. I don't want us to become uncomfortable with each other.
Then she start chasing, "Wait, why you think that way?"

Ex2. LMR situation.
Her:I might have to go home soon...(when she is in your room)
Me: Yeah, you are right, it's kinda getting dark outside and getting late. Maybe we should call it a night.

Of course, you have to be indifferent as fuck and be congruent.
Usually they will start chasing, "Wait, why you think that way?" or "I mean, I am just saying..I am not sure" and change their words.