Post: #151

(08-26-2017 01:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 04:07 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 02:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The Yugoslav war was not created by a deep hatred between Croats, Serbs or other mostly Christian groups.

The Yugoslav war was created by one thing and one thing only - Muslims starting it all with full backing of the globalists: http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/07/10...caliphate/

Zel, with all due respect, I was there and my father served in the military for the whole duration of the war all the way since the Log revolution at the end of 1990. The independence of BiH and the hostilities in Bosnia involving Muslims erupted a whole year and a half later in early 1992, by which time the Croatian war of independence was already past its peak and was starting to slowly wind down.

Frankly, we would both be stunned to discover that my father had actually been battling Muslims for 5 years without knowing it.

That part of the war was almost a skirmish compared to what came later and what brought down the might of NATO on Serbia. Croatia was over without the atrocities committed later on.

Croatian War of Independence and Kosovo War comparison Wrote:Croatian War of Independence casualties and losses, total:
13 000 soldiers killed
10 000 civilians killed
520 000 civilians displaced

Kosovo War casualties and losses, total:
4 000 soldiers killed
11 000 civilians killed
1 500 000 civlians displaced

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_W...dependence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War

Other than temporarily displacing more people because of double the population density in Kosovo and Serbia, there's no indication that the Kosovo War was larger or involved more atrocities. Even though the NATO bombing of Serbia was obviously wrong, it doesn't mean that Yugoslavia was brought down by Muslims and especially doesn't mean that Muslims started it. The Kosovo War happened in 1999, almost a decade after Yugoslavia had already crumbled.

No one here is a fan of general Muslim destabilization of countries, but it's silly to pretend the rest of the world doesn't engage in wars or atrocities on its own.

Post: #152

Okay - you Creepy Eel you - it's the unfounded blurted out statement of someone who has barely looked at the issue (aside from part of the Kosovo conflict and NATO intervention) vs someone whose father has fought in the war and who lives there.

I live by the motto of "What would Zlatan do?"



I think Zlatan would say: "I am always right - even if I am wrong."

Post: #153

This handy dandy graph tells you the forces driving the country apart:



One side sick and sterile, trying to leech off the other to stay alive.

Post: #154

(08-26-2017 11:30 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Thanks man, always enjoy a spirited and educational debate with you

Post: #155

(08-27-2017 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  This handy dandy graph tells you the forces driving the country apart:



One side sick and sterile, trying to leech off the other to stay alive.

It's unfortunate that AZ is lumped in there with the blue states. I see AZ going blue eventually. All the hard red voters are old folks from all over the US that retire in AZ but they are dying off.

I had a relative that lived in Phoenix when it was just a small city and the rest of AZ was copper mines and ranches. Now it's about the 5th biggest in the US and ALL because of mass migration. Mexicans are hard core Catholics and don't get abortions but they vote left all the time even if that includes lending political support to pro-choice, gay marriage, other SJW causes. It's all about benefits and that's it.

Post: #156

(08-27-2017 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  This handy dandy graph tells you the forces driving the country apart:



One side sick and sterile, trying to leech off the other to stay alive.

Seems like this also tells where to go if you're looking for a red pill approved wife (and also where not to go).

Post: #157

Thanks for the awesome graph, Samseau!

Red pill approved might be stretching it, as women are women, but I'd be happy with 'more appreciative of a masculine man'. Seeing how things have generated in Kommifornia and that the states with poor defense of freedom of assembly / speech being blue, I'm looking forward to moving to a red state. Plans already in motion.

Post: #158

Been a Californian most of my life and I'm looking forward to moving out also. It is too damn expensive to live here, and the illegals, the crooks in Sac Town and the horrible gun laws all are making me want to move out. Purple and red states need our votes!

Post: #159

A little primer on how things might actually go down, as well as TTPs with which you and your tribe may have to become familiar.

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.c...-violence/

Or it's fantastical masturbating into a ceiling fan. Either way it's food for thought.

Post: #160

(08-29-2017 12:50 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Been a Californian most of my life and I'm looking forward to moving out also. It is too damn expensive to live here, and the illegals, the crooks in Sac Town and the horrible gun laws all are making me want to move out. Purple and red states need our votes!

Do you think it would be okay, say in the Bay Area, if you had money, or is it just time to get out? Like maybe a place on the side of Mt. Tam in Marin? It is so beautiful there, close to a big city, and like 40% of the county is open space. Seems a shame to bail if there is a way to make it work.

Also, what about the far north, like Arcata? I know it is out of the way, but is there more freedom up there?

Post: #161

I've lived in the Bay Area for over a decade, a place that I'm very familiar with day-in-and-day-out. Culturally, the rot is to the bone. You will be surrounded by hardcore SJW types from Berkeley and beta male Soy Bois working for software companies. It is one of the most, if not the most, hostile places to masculinity in America. Even if you make serious coin in the Bay Area, your living costs are astronomical. I'm friends with a VP of a large software company based out of San Francisco. She makes excellent money, but her yearly rent for a studio apartment is $60k. It is an additional $400 per month for a parking space. Did I mention that utilities are extra? The only financial case for remaining in the Bay Area is if you are an early-round investor or employee of a tech firm that you have a stake in, before it hits IPO. If you're playing the long game and want to either start a tech company or have a stake in one that is still private and looking for a M&A or IPO, then you could suffer through it for a few years.

Another example of the Bay Area: 20 years ago I sold a 2,000 sq ft home for $250k. That same exact house resold a few years ago for $1.4m. If you lose your job, how the hell are you going to afford a $6k a month mortgage? The amount of leveraging people are using to be "rich" in the Bay Area is astounding. Hubris! Even Marin, although beautiful and mostly crime-free is MASSIVELY expensive. That is the playground of the C-suite types. There's nothing affordable up that way. They've priced out the great unwashed masses. Intentionally.

I've known a lot of people who have lived in Arcata and the surrounding areas. The place is riddled with pot smokers, meth addicts and people that don't have their lives together. It is one of the poorest counties in all of California. Ever since the environmentalists killed off the fishing and lumber industries, people have turned to drugs as their primary economy. Even visiting those places for a weekend will have you feeling depressed.

The long-term solution for anyone living in California or any blue-state hellhole is to GET AN EXIT PLAN. The taxes will continue to rise, freedom will continue to wither. Every year you stay in a leftist hellhole is one additional year of your tax dollars funding the enemy. It is one more year where they take a bit more of your free speech and gun rights. It is one additional year where your red vote gets lost in a sea of blue votes and voter fraud. Other states need a bulwark of productive people to fight back against leftism. We need to turn purple states around and stop trying to fight in places like California and Illinois. The cuck GOPe governor of IL just signed a law protecting illegal immigrants:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comm...on_monday/

Understand that any option short of violence will not make a difference in blue states. The legal powers that be are actively supporting Marxist antifa to beat citizens of California to a bloody pulp while the leftist-controlled cops look the other way. Civil war has already come to California. There aren't enough troops to muster a rebellion here. It is more important to shore up a defense from leftists in purple and red states.

Even in the so-called conservative areas of California, you are still subject to high taxation, outrageous gun laws, gender-bender feminist SJW/LGBTQI crap and funding the leftist cult that runs the state.

There is no solution but to escape. Selling your property while you still can, and making a profit before the state becomes completely overrun by illegal gangbaners, a broke pension fund in CalPERS, tons of unfunded liability in MediCAL, anti-free speech laws, etc. Any freedom loving American living in California must be willing to leave the state unless they want to stick around and are mentally and physically ready to do violence when it becomes widespread. Civil unrest is already here in California, it will only get worse as the Professional Left doubles down. I have no taste in my mouth for having to do violence against others when I can avoid it and move out, take my assets and find a state worth defending. Despite all the leftist brainwashing, most conservatives I know have no interest in violence, but can see the handwriting on the wall that this state is doomed to become more violent, but this time with state-goon approval.

Berkeley is a portends of things to come throughout the entire state. You've been warned.

Post: #162

From many accounts what is going on in Houston is pretty dire, affecting several million people. Yet even in this forum commentary has been almost non existent.

There is total scarcity of goods, yet so far there doesn't seem to be much civil unrest (relatively speaking). This is actually a very good sign. Perhaps that will eventually change since we haven't hit peak crisis yet, however at least so far, nothing seems that cataclysmic and people are helping each other.

At least based on this current example,there is not much indicating a civil war coming. And keep in mind Houston is as about a diverse a city as they come.

However like I said earlier, we are just in the beginning stage.....

Post: #163

Houston has more conservatives than a place like New Orleans, which means they were better prepared and have a better sense of community and helping one another. There are even a number of conservative minorities in Texas, can you believe it? Conservatives as a whole are better prepared to deal with disaster than leftists that always depend on the government for every single little thing. The right-wingers in Texas knew this storm was going to be awful and made preparations in advance. All the leftist rabbits in N.O. during Katrina just looted stores and abandoned their neighbors. This was the city that elected Ray Nagin, need I remind you. The moron Democrat mayor in charge of Houston is no better, but individual Texans ignored his stupidity and are making the best of a bad situation.

Post: #164

(08-29-2017 11:48 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  snip

Well that answers my question.

Post: #165

Lose the sad face!

I'm not sad, I'm angry, happy and motivated to make a move elsewhere. Righteous anger coupled with a PLAN OF ACTION gets you far more than just being sad. The sooner that each right-leaning person leaves a blue state the sooner the whole thing will collapse under its own weight. Conservative people that stay behind in leftist states are only funding their own destruction. Who do you think pays taxes so that the illegals can enjoy free medical care and in-state tuition? That's right, it is productive, tax-paying folks. If you starve the beast of its funding, the whole state will collapse, and that will be a good thing, as it will be a massive wakeup call to everyone in Middle America not to embrace leftist ideals, or risk having their state turn into another California. Seriously, California needs to be made an example of WHAT NOT TO DO. We can always rebuild it later after the leftists are done killing each other in civil conflict. I see no point in engaging them in combat when they are more than willing to act like barbarians without our prompting. Our fight is in other states, not leftist hellholes. Study the Revolutionary War and you'll realize that American badasses like Washington knew he couldn't fight the Redcoats straight on, so he waged a turf war using guerilla tactics whenever possible to minimize casualties. That same thinking needs to be applied to save the maximum number of conservative lives. IN OTHER STATES.

Post: #166

I assume what flipped Houston to democrat control is all the lefty crybabies that fled NO after Katrina never came back and I remember that's pretty much where all of them settled.

Post: #167

That's why it is super important to shore up defenses in Red and Purple states. Extreme pressure on the government of those states not to accept leftist ideals is a MUST!

Post: #168

I think its about more than civil war.
To me, its about the desruction of America, Western civilisation and values.
Look at these words and concepts that the crackpots are attempting to rewrite OR airbrush from history.

TRADITIONAL/NORMAL VS LIBERALIST CRACKPOT AGENDA AND CLAIMS
1)"historical figures and symbols of the South-like Lee" vs "racist who should not be remembered"
2)"sex" or "gender" vs "no such thing as gender".
3)"American history" vs "symbols of oppressors"
see this link
https://www.rt.com/usa/401343-racist-roo...d-anthems/
4)"marriage" ie between man and woman vs "partnership or marriage" - between sodomites and freaks.
5)"healthy appearance" ie healthy vs "body positive" ie hideous, gluttonous pigs with chronic obesity.
6)Christianity as a healthy way of life vs "evil homophobes".
etc etc
7)illegal aliens are criminals and economic migrants unless evidence suggests otherwise vs the "no one is illegal".
8)perverts and sickos vs "sexual freedom coalition" and "oppressed minorities".
9)unemployed/underemployed Westerners struggling under globalist elites vs "entitled white priviledge" and "first world problems" and "racists"

A normal civil war is one group vs another.
Whats happening today is that the sickos who call themselves "liberals" are actually looking to destroy much of a whole civilisation. I can't see how far their attacks can go. Because the language of the libtard is plain ridiculous. I mean in Britain we have 8 yr old kids being groomed by the authorities to become trannies! Who knows how far they can get? I mean, who thinks we really have democracies?

Ultimately, we know what the sickos want.
But the VITAL question is, how do we stop them????

Post: #169

Having families, outbreed them with future voters and buy food and ammo. Support conservative businesses and avoid leftist companies.

Post: #170

(08-29-2017 03:17 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Having families, outbreed them with future voters and buy food and ammo. Support conservative businesses and avoid leftist companies.

1)But how do you stop your kids being poisoned by loons?
I just saw a McCains fries advert promoting faggotry to little kids. (Fags "kissing" and the phrase "2 daddies").

2)I don't think it will be a hot civil war. It will be a cold war, propaganda style affair. That needs a different type of warrior skill.

3)The problem is, its not "left v right". Its normal, sane people vs 2 faces of the same Establishment.
Adam Smith the philosopher from the 18th Century was behind both globalism AND "liberalism". The epitomy of a one party state.

Both sides of the Establishment want floods of immigrants and to give the power positions to their daughters rather than between the men of families. And all the other shit associated with libtard globalism.

For many people its "vote left and get fucked by immigrants, corporate elites" and faggotry etc" or "vote right and get fucked by globalism and corporate elites who actually promote the libtard shit". Even someone like Trump struggles to fight them on lots of things, because these elite groups are so powerful.

Post: #171

(08-29-2017 03:46 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  [quote='John Michael Kane' pid='1639551' dateline='1504037860']
Having families, outbreed them with future voters and buy food and ammo. Support conservative businesses and avoid leftist companies.

1)But how do you stop your kids being poisoned by loons?
I just saw a McCains fries advert promoting faggotry to little kids. (Fags "kissing" and the phrase "2 daddies").[/quotes]

Don't buy their fries.

You need to familiarize yourself with this website/app: https://2ndvote.com/

You get the hell out of Blue States ASAP to find a wife, and if you already have one, you move out with her NOW. Not one more cent of taxpayer money given to the snakes! People crossed America in brutal conditions to live in the West. Those early pioneers did it. If they can do it, we certainly have no excuse.

Quote:2)I don't think it will be a hot civil war. It will be a cold war, propaganda style affair. That needs a different type of warrior skill.

Hopefully it will be a cold war fought mostly with ideas, not violence. Still, one must prepare for violence if the leftist mob brings it to us. Look at Europe as an example of a collection of native peoples under constant attack by "their" own governments. Yes, fight the good fight with words, but learn some basic prepping and self-defense skills.

Quote:3)The problem is, its not "left v right". Its normal, sane people vs 2 faces of the same Establishment.
Adam Smith the philosopher from the 18th Century was behind both globalism AND "liberalism". The epitomy of a one party state.

Both sides of the Establishment want floods of immigrants and to give the power positions to their daughters rather than between the men of families. And all the other shit associated with libtard globalism.

For many people its "vote left and get fucked by immigrants, corporate elites" and faggotry etc" or "vote right and get fucked by globalism and corporate elites who actually promote the libtard shit". Even someone like Trump struggles to fight them on lots of things, because these elite groups are so powerful.

The GOPe and the establishment ilk get no love lost from me. Call them both out, and talk to your friends. Show how the scum are all friends with each other and how nothing ever gets done. We are in a hell of a fight, no doubt. But defeatism is just what Soros and company want. Look at Poland and other places. The resistance to the globohomoists is just getting started.

Post: #172

(08-29-2017 12:15 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Lose the sad face!

I JUST CAN'T DO IT.



I AM GOING TO MISS THE CALIFORNIA OF MY IMAGINATION.

Post: #173

We can rebuild it later. A dream only dies if you let it. Sometimes good people have to go in exile. As a native-born Californian, it hurts my heart to see the state turn into such a shambles. But just as in the Bible, sometimes you have to wander around in the desert before you find the land of milk and honey again.

Post: #174

(08-27-2017 08:30 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(08-27-2017 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  This handy dandy graph tells you the forces driving the country apart:



One side sick and sterile, trying to leech off the other to stay alive.

Seems like this also tells where to go if you're looking for a red pill approved wife (and also where not to go).

This shows the modern geographical lines of that ancient struggle between producer and parasite.

*Worker v usurer
*Womb v tomb
*Fatherhood v cuckold
*Parenthood v sodomy
*Fertility v abortion
*Production v welfare state
*Faith v Fear
*Family v Community
*Potency v venereal disease
*Charity v income tax

It is no coincidence that the richest US states (i.e. those most exposed to the financial system of usury and the speculation of money that never existed, doesn't exist and only is created through the debtor's fear of the armed bailiff) are the most hostile to fatherhood, family, faith, nation and life.

Post: #175

Excellent summary above. ^^^ You've earned a rep point for your poetry.