Post: #226

It's pretty straightforward in my opinion:

Compared to other nationalities, on average, your return on time and effort invested will be lower with German girls.

Whether you meet them abroad, or in Germany, whether you are a traveller just passing through or actually based in the country, whether you speak the language or not, whether you are white, black, brown or blue, an engineer or a hobo:

Keep this in mind as a rule of thumb.

Post: #227

Excellent thread.

I haven't gamed german women yet but the german women who arrive to my country are very ugly, extremely lanky and they have a very boring vibe.

A year ago I was in a hostel and I saw a extremely lanky german girl who had blond (almost yellowish) hair, blue eyes, mosquito tits and a non-existent ass who spoke spanish fluently. I didn't opened her because her vibe was very boring and her physical appearance was a turn-off for me.

The ironic thing is that you can easily spot a physically attractive german guy but the same thing can't be said about german girls.

By the way, if you think about gaming german women, read kirdiesel posts before doing that mistake.

Post: #228

You think German girls are bad, wait till you see Aussie girls LOL!!

Post: #229

(01-24-2018 02:52 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  You think German girls are bad, wait till you see Aussie girls LOL!!

Agreed the Anglosphere is the Worst... New Zealand and parts of the UK might be the worst of the whole pack--

Post: #230

(01-24-2018 03:13 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 02:52 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  You think German girls are bad, wait till you see Aussie girls LOL!!

Agreed the Anglosphere is the Worst... New Zealand and parts of the UK might be the worst of the whole pack--

At least some of them are slutty. German girls aren't even that.

Post: #231

I have had many ONS here and my boys have to so I'm not sure where that is coming from (maybe if you run day game it could be reason why the interactions slow down)

But if you are running night game/club game girls will go home with you if you can get pass the "the wall".

"The wall" is what makes German girls incredibly hard and difficult to game but once they are interested sex happens fairly to very quickly. The worst I've met here is a 3 date Kate but for the majority of times it's been faster.

Post: #232

(01-24-2018 04:18 PM)semibaron Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 03:13 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 02:52 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  You think German girls are bad, wait till you see Aussie girls LOL!!

Agreed the Anglosphere is the Worst... New Zealand and parts of the UK might be the worst of the whole pack--

At least most of them are slutty. German girls aren't normally as easy.

Fixed it for you.

Post: #233

In NZ they travel in groups, got numbers but all flaked

Post: #234

Do German girls usually come off as cold or unconsciously rude during conversation? Opened a german girl who was doing an internship overseas. And as we were talking, she casually started packing her bag, with no mention about having to leave/in a rush etc. Only as I stood up to leave, did she say 'Sorry...'. Is this normal? Even anglo girls have an excuse if they are leaving haha.

How do the germans express IOIs if they are interested? They have this passive demeanor at all times.

Post: #235

(06-26-2018 08:30 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Do German girls usually come off as cold or unconsciously rude during conversation? Opened a german girl who was doing an internship overseas. And as we were talking, she casually started packing her bag, with no mention about having to leave/in a rush etc. Only as I stood up to leave, did she say 'Sorry...'. Is this normal? Even anglo girls have an excuse if they are leaving haha.

How do the germans express IOIs if they are interested? They have this passive demeanor at all times.

This is funny. The Germans are extremely direct when they want to meet you. They stare you down (on trams or metros) or in bars they come stand next to you, don't look at you, don't say anything and are alone. So I met one girl who did this and after we met twice I asked her about the standing next to a guy thing and she said of course. That's what I do.

Post: #236

I did not find German girls to be anywhere near as approachable as pretty much any other nationality of European during the time I lived in the country. The vast majority of my bangs were foreign girls who were living or traveling in Germany (Brazilians, Poles, the occasional South or North American).

I casually dated a few German girls and went on more first dates than I can count. Most of them were sweet, normal girls in the 6-7 range who were just a little too career-driven for my tastes, and in general were all socialized to be culturally autistic and unfriendly to strangers because that's just how Germany is. So nothing ever developed except for sexual flings of a few weeks or months. I can't tell you how a German girl would be as a wife or LTR. But approach and first date-wise, they can be as cold and robotic as the stereotypes suggest, or totally open and friendly - it all depends on context, as German thinking tends to be to regiment everything to its proper time and place, including meeting new people (thus the existence of bacchanal beer fests, like Oktoberfest).

I never got eye contact from German girls on the street. Ever. I don't think I did a single day approach because I almost never saw an IOI. On the other hand I get IOIs all the time in other countries, like Poland, where I am now. It's context. For example, my friend picked up a smoking hot girl on the airplane when she was with her mom. She was traveling and was in a mood to socialize. Girls in bars are (obviously) a lot more open to meeting people, although they are going to say some dumb shit to you 9/10 times if you are American about how Trump sucks or nobody can possibly have a good life in the USA because of... reasons. I have no idea, I always just tuned that shit out when it started.

But regardless of all that, typically in bars if a girl gave me eye contact and I approached her, within a few minutes they were warm and flirtatious and the typically cold exterior melted (it should go without saying that I mean if the girl was into me - if she was not, however, I don't think German girls gave worse/ruder blowouts than anywhere else, although they are usually much more direct and to the point about the fact they're not interested).

In casual dating/hooking up, most of them did the typical Northern European thing of playing the game of who cares the least while still being willing to fuck from the 1st or 2nd date on. Only one German girl I dated, would I say acted in a feminine way that showed me really cared about me from early on. I am a man who likes feeling appreciated by my woman, even if she's only a plate and we don't see other often, and this does not seem to me common in German dating culture - at least for a while, until things get serious. A close friend of mine (Bavarian native) said when he was growing up it was common for his group of friends to fuck each other's exes and make fun of the guy who got would actually get pissed/emotional about it. Different world I guess.

One plus side I don't see mentioned often re: German women is the looks. Germany has a high concentration of stunners - and I mean some of the most beautiful faces and bodies I have seen in 30+ countries of travel and four years of living abroad - at least in Hamburg and Munich, which are more "posh" rather than hipster cities. I don't know why these two cities are not more hyped for their beauty level, as it is off the charts. If you have a big bankroll and speak German I imagine it could be exceptional. I don't have either so for me the German 8's and up were a no-fly zone...

Post: #237

Germany is known for ugly girls. And its true. In frankfurt (many banks, where mostly men work) good looking guys have ugly german GFs or have to import wives from other countries(even if they are rich and good looking). You can see guys with a porsche 911 turbo cabrio with a thaigirl. That tells everything.

Munich and other cities in the east should be better.

Post: #238

(06-28-2018 12:09 PM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

(06-26-2018 08:30 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Do German girls usually come off as cold or unconsciously rude during conversation? Opened a german girl who was doing an internship overseas. And as we were talking, she casually started packing her bag, with no mention about having to leave/in a rush etc. Only as I stood up to leave, did she say 'Sorry...'. Is this normal? Even anglo girls have an excuse if they are leaving haha.

How do the germans express IOIs if they are interested? They have this passive demeanor at all times.

This is funny. The Germans are extremely direct when they want to meet you. They stare you down (on trams or metros) or in bars they come stand next to you, don't look at you, don't say anything and are alone. So I met one girl who did this and after we met twice I asked her about the standing next to a guy thing and she said of course. That's what I do.

Yeah, I agree that she was not into me haha. Tbh, once, I got down to speaking to her face to face, saw that she wasn't that attractive. She was from Cologne. I do agree with the eye contact if they are interested. All the general IOIs we expect from girls are there but somehow, there is something mechanical about the process from German girls. Might be different with south german girls though, somehow i bumb into the northern ones more.

What about escalation? Has your experience confirmed the opinion that the guy should only attempt physical contact after she has initiated it?

Post: #239

Hey guys 1st post, made an account just to post here.
Truly fascinating thread, read from beginning to end, how things have changed in 6 years

My oh my, yes how the future now has come to be.

Post: #240

Couldn’t agree more with this.

On the two occasions that I chopped German chicks, it was always them standing creepily close to me in a club. On the most recent occasion, the chick even pinched my arse

Mind you my German flags were secured in both London (she was a tourist) and Newcastle (masters student) . I’ve only been to Munich but that was with my gf

Post: #241

Be a Syrian migrant and they'll literally line up at the train station for you. Oh wait... that was 2015. Never mind.

Seriously tho, German woman as a whole have swallowed multi-culturalism hook line and sinker. So if you're tall and dark and got some game then you'll be just fine. If you're blond you'll have to work a bit harder but game goes a long way in Germany as most German men are cucked beta-males unable to deal with rejection.

Good luck!

Post: #242

(06-26-2018 08:30 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Do German girls usually come off as cold or unconsciously rude during conversation? Opened a german girl who was doing an internship overseas. And as we were talking, she casually started packing her bag, with no mention about having to leave/in a rush etc. Only as I stood up to leave, did she say 'Sorry...'. Is this normal? Even anglo girls have an excuse if they are leaving haha.

How do the germans express IOIs if they are interested? They have this passive demeanor at all times.

I agree I find German girls to be cold and unfriendly. Slight attraction but nothing to remember by...

Post: #243

Awesome forum that brings vital real life experiences together in one piece.
I live in Sweden and everything written about Germany is 100% in resonance with Sweden.
The women are experts in mind games and if don’t see through it properly, they are going to game you with that fake aloofness and disinterest.
The reason I started I started reading the German data sheet is because I’m tired of Sweden and was looking at relocating to Berlin, but it’s heart shattering to know it’s like moving from the hot frying pan to fire.
Swedish women are more sexually open than German women I suppose from the posters here, but I believe both women are super capable of SDL/ONS if they don’t feel any slut shaming.
What has worked for me as a black guy in Sweden is gaming close to the university hostels especially in winter months when it get dark very fast, you would be amazed how SDL cold indirect or situational approach can get you laid within 1hour.
I would have preferred to move to the UK but I have family tie in Sweden and in the wake of brexit I just want to live in the continental Europe for the sake of ease and access to my child.
I was watching the Indian PUA deepak pulling German girls like crazy in cold approaches, so I want to know if this sexual aloofness by German women could be that they need to operate off grid where nobody can judge them?
Indirect and situational approach has worked for me so well in Sweden but the ROI is still too low though because I live in a very small town. I’m a grinder when it comes to daygame and would consider my confidence level in cold approach to be 9.5/10. I have game a Swedish girl during day game in the grocery store using “could you please help me find this item” and we were making out within 5-10 mins or so and in the apartment in less than 30 mins. I’ve heard two girls that didn’t end up fucking me but we make out saying everything felt like they were hypnotized or something.
These examples are just to show that even though they say it’s not a culture of meeting people in cold approach, if you do it the right way, they will squash all that Jantelagen for you.
Some of the ones I’ve gamed in cold approach ended up flaking during text game, only for them to call me out of the blues 4-6 months later like 11pm always in the weekends saying “i am drinking white wine, would you like to come over and chill” and I’m like are you sure you know who you are texting and they gave me the shock of my life by telling me how we met.
So how is daygame like in Berlin considering some YouTube videos are suggesting the women are codedly slutting it out in cold approach?

Post: #244

(11-27-2018 04:54 PM)Davido Wrote:  I was watching the Indian PUA deepak pulling German girls like crazy in cold approaches,

*sigh*

This was your first problem.

Post: #245

Berlin is far with the best city to Game in Germany

Post: #246

(11-27-2018 05:11 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(11-27-2018 04:54 PM)Davido Wrote:  I was watching the Indian PUA deepak pulling German girls like crazy in cold approaches,

*sigh*

This was your first problem.

Because he is Indian? Reporting your post for racism.

What is wrong with this Deepak guy? I looked him up on youtube and just another PUA.

Post: #247

Has anyone had experience with Turkish German women? Are they any more open than Turkish women from Turkey depending on where in Germany they're from/their class?

Post: #248

@ Corsega
Can you explain what you mean by that was my first problem.

Post: #249

Please stop bashing these old German threads. Everything has been already said in this thread and here:
/thread-59335-page-5.html

Overall opinion:
In general Germany is not a country for gaming quality women (although they are less obese than American)

Turkish women are hit and miss in Germany. The very pretty ones are very often more conservative and stick to their own social circle. The more liberal ones which date other races are not really attractive but somehow freaks in the bed. My turkish mate would never date a turkish girl himself and his sister yells loud at guys that approach her during the daytime

About Deepak:
You can see in his videos that bangs very low quality women in Germany (because those are the easiest). Funnily enough he now lives in Kiew permanently

Post: #250

Pretty much.

I’ve been here 8 years now. If there’s anything you personally want to know about Germany send a PM.