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Heh.
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(06-29-2018 11:23 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Heh.
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An extraordinary shift! Who could have predicted that vilifying whites as responsible for all the evils in the world and openly celebrating the day when they become a minority in the country their forefathers founded might cause them to stop voting for Democrats? Don't those white millennials know that this was their big chance to atone for their awful and unforgivable sin of being unbearably white?

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The Dems are beyond anyway redeemable. They are corrupted to the core with corporate money and sponsors. Any attempt to bring back the old values of FDR and JFK are doomed to failure because the super-delegates control the party. Pelosi's only job is to attract as much corporate money as possible and divvy it up to the trough below.

Any genuine liberal or progressive left in the Dems should get out and either join the Greens or set up a party independent of the corporate donors. The Dems have consistently shown themselves to be pro war, pro Military Industrial Complex, pro Wall Street deregulation and anti single payer.

The Dems are toast. Their only ideology now is greed.
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Are there any real wheels under the #walkaway campaign?

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Ocasio-Cortez is a fraud:

Quote:The hardscrabble biography of Democrat Congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been called into question after the revelation that she grew up mostly in wealthy Westchester County.

Though Ocasio-Cortez, 28, was born in and currently lives in the Bronx, county land records show her late father Sergio Cortez-Roman bought a quaint three-bedroom in Yorktown Heights, New York in 1991, when she was about two.

It is an apparent contradiction with the candidate's official biography, which states in part: 'The state of Bronx public schools in the late 80s and early 90s sent her parents on a search for a solution. She ended up attending public school 40 minutes north in Yorktown, and much of her life was defined by the 40 minute commute between school and her family in the Bronx.'

Ocasio-Cortez also boasted on Stephen Colbert's late-night show that President Donald Trump, born in Queens, wouldn't know how to handle 'a girl from the Bronx' such as herself.
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(07-01-2018 01:53 PM)BlueMark Wrote:  Ocasio-Cortez is a fraud:

She is NOT a fraud. How dare you even imply such a thing?

She is an absolutely authentic nutcase communist kill-the-rich freak. As authentic as they come.

Shame on you.
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Bernie is now not radical enough cause he does not support "abolish ICE"...

Mad Maxine is calling Schumer & Pelosi out...
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Just in the past few leeks they seem to be imploding hard. First the "walk away" thing from a gay hairdresser gets traction now the NBP leader is saying black people have been "pimped out" by the DNC.

These are their target demographics they're losing. It's not a good lookout.
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The Cannibalism is off the charts bad right now. Dem leadership is squabbling like hyenas. Liberal loudmouths are digging holes deeper than ever before with disgusting lack of class.

Now something we gotta keep an eye out for is getting our momentum ruined or subverted. Trump himself needs to stay right wing and keep the course he laid out.

When people lose their voice in the Democrat party they will look for someone else to listen to them. Republicans, Greens, Progressives, Independents, etc. Some will attempt to change the Republican party from within. That gay guy is a prime example of that. Remember way back when I told you guys, that change in parties comes from within? Blacks (especially Christian ones) should have made the Republican party itself better if they thought it was racist, not join the Democrat party that shares 1 or 2 values at best.

Anyway, there were already some gays in the Rep party, like pro gun ones. Openly crazy bug chasing types could cause a mess over time, just giving you guys a fair warning. The media would LOVE to sow confusion inside the party by giving some controlled opposition/confused gay guy a platform to say crazy shit on TV to make us look stupid. They may try to co-opt our own narratives and spin them. Like they might have a Republican one on TV talking about LBGT education stuff for school children in elementary schools, when none of us want that shit.

Newt Gingrich and Tucker are still around so those are our biggest guns, but Newt almost got blown the fuck up, going to stupid Belgium with Rudy the other day by terrorists. Dudes like this need to stay out of Western Europe. Over time as we continue to win, people are going to get tired of the Dems and look for a sympathetic shoulder. There is already rumors that Trump would not pick a justice that is anti-abortion. I don't care about it, but what I do care about is Trump starting to listen to liberals for no good reason from feeling sorry for them because they are loser.

There will be a time for mercy and middle ground stuff, but not right now. That immigration EO, was okayish, and a moderate move to get people to STFU, and was modestly successful. I hope that judge rumor is just that, misdirection to keep the noise down until the announcement. Movement hijacking is dangerous and can happen very quickly.

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(07-03-2018 01:05 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  The Cannibalism is off the charts bad right now. Dem leadership is squabbling like hyenas. Liberal loudmouths are digging holes deeper than ever before with disgusting lack of class.

Now something we gotta keep an eye out for is getting our momentum ruined or subverted. Trump himself needs to stay right wing and keep the course he laid out.

When people lose their voice in the Democrat party they will look for someone else to listen to them. Republicans, Greens, Progressives, Independents, etc. Some will attempt to change the Republican party from within. That gay guy is a prime example of that. Remember way back when I told you guys, that change in parties comes from within? Blacks (especially Christian ones) should have made the Republican party itself better if they thought it was racist, not join the Democrat party that shares 1 or 2 values at best.

Anyway, there were already some gays in the Rep party, like pro gun ones. Openly crazy bug chasing types could cause a mess over time, just giving you guys a fair warning. The media would LOVE to sow confusion inside the party by giving some controlled opposition/confused gay guy a platform to say crazy shit on TV to make us look stupid. They may try to co-opt our own narratives and spin them. Like they might have a Republican one on TV talking about LBGT education stuff for school children in elementary schools, when none of us want that shit.

Newt Gingrich and Tucker are still around so those are our biggest guns, but Newt almost got blown the fuck up, going to stupid Belgium with Rudy the other day by terrorists. Dudes like this need to stay out of Western Europe. Over time as we continue to win, people are going to get tired of the Dems and look for a sympathetic shoulder. There is already rumors that Trump would not pick a justice that is anti-abortion. I don't care about it, but what I do care about is Trump starting to listen to liberals for no good reason from feeling sorry for them because they are loser.

There will be a time for mercy and middle ground stuff, but not right now. That immigration EO, was okayish, and a moderate move to get people to STFU, and was modestly successful. I hope that judge rumor is just that, misdirection to keep the noise down until the announcement. Movement hijacking is dangerous and can happen very quickly.

Agree. Take all this winning while we can, but watch out. Deep State could tank the economy, or further subvert the Republican Party.

We've already seen this since Trump got elected with 'the cucks.' Tell me why the fuck with a Republican President and majority in both the House and Senate it's so hard to abolish Obamacare, build the wall, or have a true 'Muslim ban' (can't even have a pseudo one)? That question gets answered once you realize the JUST Act was passed unanimously and barely made the news.

We're seeing things go up a notch now with selecting the new SCOTUS justice. First, the left started screaming - out of the blue - that this means Roe v. Wade will be rescinded. Really it was just the MSM at the behest of the Deep State that brought it up, taking the initiative since abortion is fundamental to the West's decline, since this was probably not the first thing to come to mind for the average person.

Next, you have conservatives like Republican politicians and Fox news reacting. How were they reacting? You see multiple female Republican politicians saying it SHOULD NOT be rescinded. Then multiple male Republican politicians following along and saying the same thing. Then Fox news tries to play it off as if the left suggesting that a conservative SCOTUS would rescind Roe v. Wade shows how crazy they are because the idea of rescinding Roe v. Wade is crazy.

Do you see what's going on? They're setting the frame.

I used to not care about abortion myself, just like TK said and I'm sure many others on the forum feel. But when I see this playbook being used on us, you can't just take the high road and not worry about it. You have to fight it just as hard and not only not give an inch, but take an inch. The reaction to the left when they scream about Roe v. Wade shouldn't be "chill guys, idk why you'd even think about that" it should be "Fuck you. And since you reminded me, it's now top of the to-do list. You baby killer."

What conservative churches or organizations with money should do is start a media campaign in conjunction with the selection of the new justice and show as graphic footage as possible (whatever they can get away with) on TV, YouTube, or wherever of the horrors of abortion. Shove it in the face of the American public and give a solid middle finger to the left. Hell, contrast it with the stupid kids in cages garbage. I would gladly donate to such a media campaign.
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(07-03-2018 06:00 PM)kamoz Wrote:  I used to not care about abortion myself, just like TK said and I'm sure many others on the forum feel. But when I see this playbook being used on us, you can't just take the high road and not worry about it. You have to fight it just as hard and not only not give an inch, but take an inch. The reaction to the left when they scream about Roe v. Wade shouldn't be "chill guys, idk why you'd even think about that" it should be "Fuck you. And since you reminded me, it's now top of the to-do list. You baby killer."

What conservative churches or organizations with money should do is start a media campaign in conjunction with the selection of the new justice and show as graphic footage as possible (whatever they can get away with) on TV, YouTube, or wherever of the horrors of abortion. Shove it in the face of the American public and give a solid middle finger to the left. Hell, contrast it with the stupid kids in cages garbage. I would gladly donate to such a media campaign.

I don't care much for abortion either, and I would approve of what you suggest.

But do you really think conservative churches and organizations have it in their DNA to suddenly switch to attack dog mode and "shove it in the face of the public and give a middle finger to the left"? I am not so sure. If they did, they'd have been putting up banners of aborted fetuses over highway overpasses for the past generation, instead of protesting abortion clinics which just makes them look bad.
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Well in alot of ways, it doesn't matter too much what we think at this point in time.

Trump said he was prolife on the campaign trail. He should stick to this regardless of the howling on the left and conservative women.

Roe v wade likely will be thrown back to state level. Not banned outright. That's not the court's power. This gives each state a stronger opportunity to push back against society decline to an extent. Women that really want one will just travel to another state. Travel is cheap and efficient, this isn't 1970.

Its mostly about momentum. Abortion bans will send a big message and start the other fights. More tax incentives for larger families. Incentives that are better than single mother freebies. A better carrot could be enhancements to maternity leave or rather anything that puts women back at home where they belong with children. Women are lazy and actually want to be stay at home moms. Give them the opportunity and most will take it. American society needs to be weened off dual income lifestyles and extreme consumerism.

Feminism has power because it has leverage. Women work like men right now. Society is decaying because of the high feminism.

So since we know what the issues are we need the opening face slap. Take away the bulk of their abortion power. Then more will demand support for children and families. It's a natural progression.

Trump needs to hold frame big time. I know the feeling. My kids sometimes manage to wear me down so bad I might offer them ice cream in exchange for some silence because my head is throbbing in pain. A bad parent let's this happen often. I can still count on one hand how many times I have done that, and it will stay on one hand. Trump can throw a bone sometimes but the integrity of the mission cannot be compromised.

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If there's one thing I'm happy about the implosion, it's because I got to see the bullshit that James Carville and Dylan Loewe threw in their shitty books about Democrats running things for a long time come to combust in Trump's victory.

I was on some political forums in the past and Democrats there let recency bias get to their heads. They were having visions of running the White House until 2032 or 2036 and wet dreams of Republicans splintering into different parties while saying they're smiling about it. And then Election 2016 and I was happy that was averted for now, I wish I could've seen their butt hurt and their dreams ruined.
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(07-03-2018 06:42 PM)BlueMark Wrote:  But do you really think conservative churches and organizations have it in their DNA to suddenly switch to attack dog mode and "shove it in the face of the public and give a middle finger to the left"? I am not so sure. If they did, they'd have been putting up banners of aborted fetuses over highway overpasses for the past generation, instead of protesting abortion clinics which just makes them look bad.

Having it in them is one issue, but the bigger one is anything like that being blocked by big money. Any television network will not allow a commercial like this to be shown, because it's not part of the agenda. YouTube would block anything like it as well. Billboards haven't gone up probably because the owners didn't approve. It's just like pictures of the blood-strewn floors of the Bataclan never making the airways, or the girl that was run over by a truck of peace never being shown. But you better bet some migrant kid face down on the beach, or in a cage, or having seizures from a "gas attack" make it on the national news.

(07-03-2018 08:21 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Roe v wade likely will be thrown back to state level. Not banned outright. That's not the court's power. This gives each state a stronger opportunity to push back against society decline to an extent. Women that really want one will just travel to another state. Travel is cheap and efficient, this isn't 1970.

Its mostly about momentum. Abortion bans will send a big message and start the other fights. More tax incentives for larger families. Incentives that are better than single mother freebies. A better carrot could be enhancements to maternity leave or rather anything that puts women back at home where they belong with children. Women are lazy and actually want to be stay at home moms. Give them the opportunity and most will take it. American society needs to be weened off dual income lifestyles and extreme consumerism.

I would consider it a win if we get there.
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(07-03-2018 08:29 PM)Kurgan Wrote:  If there's one thing I'm happy about the implosion,

....is that maybe, maybe fucktards like Peter Fonda and the rest of the pedo's and rapists in Hollywood will be judged truthfully and swiftly. That would be high on my priority list.

But for now we have to deal with our own #metoo warrior, Justin Turdeau.

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(07-03-2018 09:54 PM)kamoz Wrote:  
(07-03-2018 06:42 PM)BlueMark Wrote:  But do you really think conservative churches and organizations have it in their DNA to suddenly switch to attack dog mode and "shove it in the face of the public and give a middle finger to the left"? I am not so sure. If they did, they'd have been putting up banners of aborted fetuses over highway overpasses for the past generation, instead of protesting abortion clinics which just makes them look bad.

Having it in them is one issue, but the bigger one is anything like that being blocked by big money. Any television network will not allow a commercial like this to be shown, because it's not part of the agenda. YouTube would block anything like it as well. Billboards haven't gone up probably because the owners didn't approve. It's just like pictures of the blood-strewn floors of the Bataclan never making the airways, or the girl that was run over by a truck of peace never being shown. But you better bet some migrant kid face down on the beach, or in a cage, or having seizures from a "gas attack" make it on the national news.

Instead they should use cute commercials and billboards. Show a picture of a kitten that needs to be adopted so they should consider abortion, and adopt the kitten instead.

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Interesting take.

By and large it's true that immigrants south of the border go left, but the video points to a good study:

1) When liberals are exposed to non-Western diversity, then they become anti-immigration - funny study done by Harvard backing it up
2) Latinos of Euro-stock or intermarried ones increasingly self-identify as Whites

I am not sure whether those two factors will be sufficient to upkeep a European majority in the US.
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2) Latinos of Euro-stock or intermarried ones increasingly self-identify as Whites

I am not sure whether those two factors will be sufficient to upkeep a European majority in the US.

My neighborhood in the last census has way more "white" people listed than you would think live here. When I first moved in, I was one maybe five of non-Spanish speaking white guys within a two block radius.

Turns out we have a fair number of people from South America. They put themselves as 'white' on the census forms, not wanting to be associated with the Mestizo Hispanics.
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