Post: #201

(08-24-2018 08:38 AM)Henny Wrote:  Has anyone been to Belarus and had multiple bangs?

I did, check my post in this thread few days ago, it has actual tips how to do it.

(08-24-2018 11:36 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Indeed young is the key, I would also add 30+ with not so heavy sponsor mind, there are plenty of those.
Italy might not be for sure a financed trip but Arab countries like Dubai are probably financed and many girls have photos there in their Instagram or even Tinder -It is like a big sign above her head: I am a prostitute for Arabs )

Post: #202

(08-24-2018 04:09 PM)diego69 Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 08:38 AM)Henny Wrote:  Has anyone been to Belarus and had multiple bangs?

I did, check my post in this thread few days ago, it has actual tips how to do it.

(08-24-2018 11:36 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Indeed young is the key, I would also add 30+ with not so heavy sponsor mind, there are plenty of those.
Italy might not be for sure a financed trip but Arab countries like Dubai are probably financed and many girls have photos there in their Instagram or even Tinder -It is like a big sign above her head: I am a prostitute for Arabs )

When we hear a Slavic girl has been to Dubai we react in the same way that a girl from out country reacts when she hears we've been to FSU

30 + are of little interest to me at least until i'm in my 50's.

Post: #203

Not all women are necessarily going to Dubai.

Here in Batumi I had a lot of Tinder matches that randomly decided they were prostitutes and asked me for $200/hour. Some even had linked Instagram profiles that made them look like normal women. They probably do that to any male that doesn't look Russian / Georgian.

But yeah thanks to Arabs and Turks the (good) looking women in FSU are kind of spoiled now. I remember being in Ukraine 10 years and women adoring me (and that was in Lviv too!) but when I go to Ukraine soon I bet women won't even make eye contact with me (doesn't really matter because I want to go to Kiev for food and museums not part-time hookers).

Post: #204

(08-23-2018 03:57 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 03:39 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Brosemite, wondering whether they will be able to overrun Minsk like they did with Kiev? The thirtiness of those guys is without any limit.
Just for the people not bothering so far with VISA and limitations...Minsk has been already changing a lot over the last few years.

The reality is the business sector will kowtow to Turkish tourists.

I live in Batumi. Once upon a time they tried the whole: "we don't like Turks and we don't want them to come here" so they revoked visas for Turkish people. Apparently most businesses ended up losing 40% of their revenue so they had to reverse the decision.


There's no way any country in Eastern Europe is going to ban Turks because the Middle-Upper Class / Upper class owners of restaurants and hotels make crazy money off their sex, drug and gambling vacations.

I don't understand how Turkish people have the money to go on these trips. Unless they're hiding a lot of money under the table Turkey's GDP per capita is too low to explain the huge numbers of young Turkish men abroad (who are probably working for Turkey's equivalent of a minimum wage).

I think Giacamo was referring to thirsty americans. I cannot find Turkey on the list of countries allowed visa-free 30 day travel:

http://uae.mfa.gov.by/en/consular_issues/visafree5days/

This is an interesting omission. I think officials know what would happen if Turkey is included and decided it isn't worth it.

However, they have been enabling Arab sponsors from Dubai who have had 30 day visa-free travel since 2016:

Visa-free entry to Belarus for UAE citizens

Apparently it's so important to the national economy that they created a country-specific visa exemption. Arab sponsorship must be huge there.

I met a Belarussian girl a few months ago in western europe and got her instagram.

This girl had photos of her in Yemen

...fucking Yemen

Post: #205

Turkish guys have been traveling to Belarus visa-free since 2014

http://istanbul.mfa.gov.by/en/consular_issues/free/

Post: #206

(08-24-2018 11:36 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Hi Tenerife,
i read your quotes and of alle others here. It sounds very interesting. I will be in Minsk for three weeks in December.
What i am wondering...in the clubs Rich Cat and Black House Club. It was strange what i discovered there. There were these young blond girls with the old turkish and arab guys. The girl drink alcohol and the guys tried to kiss them. The girl don't want but the guy succeed and i think they are taking them home. I don't understand how this works in this club, what do the arabs offer them (besides Drinks and table in VIP area). These girls didn't talk to other foreigners. Only bad ones came and ask "200", i said no.
Honestly i am a bit jealous.

Post: #207

(11-18-2018 01:48 PM)Donnie Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 11:36 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Hi Tenerife,
i read your quotes and of alle others here. It sounds very interesting. I will be in Minsk for three weeks in December.
What i am wondering...in the clubs Rich Cat and Black House Club. It was strange what i discovered there. There were these young blond girls with the old turkish and arab guys. The girl drink alcohol and the guys tried to kiss them. The girl don't want but the guy succeed and i think they are taking them home. I don't understand how this works in this club, what do the arabs offer them (besides Drinks and table in VIP area). These girls didn't talk to other foreigners. Only bad ones came and ask "200", i said no.
Honestly i am a bit jealous.

Skolko za chas?

The places that you mentioned along with Next and Dozari are prime grounds for P4P. It's the same in Bardot XXX on the top floor of the Hilton, perhaps Minsk's most exclusive bar. I visted there with Triple G and Boris Alitovmuff and it was crawling with working girls. I was quoted "200" for the hour.

Minsk is not Kiev when it comes to P4P and Greek Kamaki style sponsorship but it does undoubtedly happen behind the scenes. Not every girl you meet who has been to Italy has opened her legs for the trip. Take Rocha for example. He bangs FSU girls who show up on his patch in Lisbon and he doesn't engage in the above. He has good game. Moreover he also speaks Russian.

In relation to travel, it is relatively easy for Belarusians to get a Schengen visa and head to Western Europe. I get it the whole time on my Instagram feed from lady friends with whom I work with. It's normal. I am fairly sure that there is nothing sinister going on there.

Lastly, you can meet many normal girls in Minsk. If you hit the fleshpots mentioned above, you are going to meet the hoes. I saw this while out with other forum members. It's not for the fainthearted mind you. If you steer clear of these places with the milleu of Turks and Arabs, you will meet everyday girls. BTW, I no longer frequent the establishments mentioned above.

Post: #208

(11-18-2018 02:28 PM)Batka Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 01:48 PM)Donnie Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 11:36 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Hi Tenerife,
i read your quotes and of alle others here. It sounds very interesting. I will be in Minsk for three weeks in December.
What i am wondering...in the clubs Rich Cat and Black House Club. It was strange what i discovered there. There were these young blond girls with the old turkish and arab guys. The girl drink alcohol and the guys tried to kiss them. The girl don't want but the guy succeed and i think they are taking them home. I don't understand how this works in this club, what do the arabs offer them (besides Drinks and table in VIP area). These girls didn't talk to other foreigners. Only bad ones came and ask "200", i said no.
Honestly i am a bit jealous.

Skolko za chas?

The places that you mentioned along with Next and Dozari are prime grounds for P4P. It's the same in Bardot XXX on the top floor of the Hilton, perhaps Minsk's most exclusive bar. I visted there with Triple G and Boris Alitovmuff and it was crawling with working girls. I was quoted "200" for the hour.

Minsk is not Kiev when it comes to P4P and Greek Kamaki style sponsorship but it does undoubtedly happen behind the scenes. Not every girl you meet who has been to Italy has opened her legs for the trip. Take Rocha for example. He bangs FSU girls who show up on his patch in Lisbon and he doesn't engage in the above. He has good game. Moreover he also speaks Russian.

In relation to travel, it is relatively easy for Belarusians to get a Schengen visa and head to Western Europe. I get it the whole time on my Instagram feed from lady friends with whom I work with. It's normal. I am fairly sure that there is nothing sinister going on there.

Lastly, you can meet many normal girls in Minsk. If you hit the fleshpots mentioned above, you are going to meet the hoes. I saw this while out with other forum members. It's not for the fainthearted mind you. If you steer clear of these places with the milleu of Turks and Arabs, you will meet everyday girls. BTW, I no longer frequent the establishments mentioned above.

and what do you recommend? I have 3 weeks.

Post: #209

(11-18-2018 03:36 PM)Donnie Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 02:28 PM)Batka Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 01:48 PM)Donnie Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 11:36 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Hi Tenerife,
i read your quotes and of alle others here. It sounds very interesting. I will be in Minsk for three weeks in December.
What i am wondering...in the clubs Rich Cat and Black House Club. It was strange what i discovered there. There were these young blond girls with the old turkish and arab guys. The girl drink alcohol and the guys tried to kiss them. The girl don't want but the guy succeed and i think they are taking them home. I don't understand how this works in this club, what do the arabs offer them (besides Drinks and table in VIP area). These girls didn't talk to other foreigners. Only bad ones came and ask "200", i said no.
Honestly i am a bit jealous.

Skolko za chas?

The places that you mentioned along with Next and Dozari are prime grounds for P4P. It's the same in Bardot XXX on the top floor of the Hilton, perhaps Minsk's most exclusive bar. I visted there with Triple G and Boris Alitovmuff and it was crawling with working girls. I was quoted "200" for the hour.

Minsk is not Kiev when it comes to P4P and Greek Kamaki style sponsorship but it does undoubtedly happen behind the scenes. Not every girl you meet who has been to Italy has opened her legs for the trip. Take Rocha for example. He bangs FSU girls who show up on his patch in Lisbon and he doesn't engage in the above. He has good game. Moreover he also speaks Russian.

In relation to travel, it is relatively easy for Belarusians to get a Schengen visa and head to Western Europe. I get it the whole time on my Instagram feed from lady friends with whom I work with. It's normal. I am fairly sure that there is nothing sinister going on there.

Lastly, you can meet many normal girls in Minsk. If you hit the fleshpots mentioned above, you are going to meet the hoes. I saw this while out with other forum members. It's not for the fainthearted mind you. If you steer clear of these places with the milleu of Turks and Arabs, you will meet everyday girls. BTW, I no longer frequent the establishments mentioned above.

and what do you recommend? I have 3 weeks.

@Donnie, a better question is what the heck are you planning on doing in Minsk for 3 weeks? Please tell me you have a location independent income and will actually be working most days otherwise there are way more exciting places to go if you wanna do touristy things. For a city of 2 Million Kiev is quite boring (unless there is some big sporting event going such as World Hockey Championships a few years back).

Post: #210

(11-18-2018 01:48 PM)Donnie Wrote:  Hi Tenerife,
i read your quotes and of alle others here. It sounds very interesting. I will be in Minsk for three weeks in December.
What i am wondering...in the clubs Rich Cat and Black House Club. It was strange what i discovered there. There were these young blond girls with the old turkish and arab guys. The girl drink alcohol and the guys tried to kiss them. The girl don't want but the guy succeed and i think they are taking them home. I don't understand how this works in this club, what do the arabs offer them (besides Drinks and table in VIP area). These girls didn't talk to other foreigners. Only bad ones came and ask "200", i said no.
Honestly i am a bit jealous.

I hope you're trolling, anyway because I'm sure there's someone so fool to have the same doubts, here the explanation:
The girls you saw are all whores, p4p, sex for money.
Nightlife in Minsk now it's just a funfair for Arabs and Turks, so it's totally useless if you want to meet normal girls.

Things are changed a lot in just 2 years, now during the week nightlife it's just dead (except for whores), and normal girls go out only in Friday and Saturday night.
Avoid clubs at all costs, if you're not into p4p they're just scam, the girls at bars' counter are paid by the clubs to stay there and make foreigners pay for their drinks (even if they have free drinks).
I saw dozens of Americans fall into this trick.

English speaker girls are all spoiled, if you want to hit on normal girls Russian it's mandatory, instead it'll be hard as fuck.
And even if you speak Russian, you need time, because most of girls are LTR focused.

Do you speak Russian?

And for normal girls age difference is important, so if you're old for sure it'll be more difficult to hit on 18-23 y.o. girls, unless you play the sponsor game (expensive gifts etcetera).

Post: #211

(11-18-2018 07:24 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 03:36 PM)Donnie Wrote:  and what do you recommend? I have 3 weeks.

@Donnie, a better question is what the heck are you planning on doing in Minsk for 3 weeks? Please tell me you have a location independent income and will actually be working most days otherwise there are way more exciting places to go if you wanna do touristy things. For a city of 2 Million Kiev is quite boring (unless there is some big sporting event going such as World Hockey Championships a few years back).

I agree 100%, 3 weeks in Minsk during the winter just for girls it's just insane.

Post: #212

sorry guys @tripleG @traveler97

1. I go there because i want to find a beautiful girlfriend
2. i got a little addicted to the super beautiful 18 yo semi-pro student girls, i know a lot of them. And i have hundreds waiting for me. But that is not what i really want. I like 100 % amateur. Or girlfriend material.
3. Nightclub as you mentioned right, these girls are looking for money, but they only reflect on the arabs/turks in club.
Even they don't give me a chance to offer something. And of course traveler97 is right, the club owners ask girls on the street to come to their club, and of course to make tourist pay them there drinks. that's for the stupid foreigner. But there is another dimension, these super hot club beauties are only talking with the turks, and they meet there, i mean in the club. However i don't understand. They didn't even looked at me.
4. no. I don't speak a word Russian
5. i play also day game and get many numbers. And also they want to meet. But i don't spend them dinner or drinks unless i kissed them. I buy them a chocolate for 2 Dollar. I am fine with this.

to be honest i don't know what to do, in my country i can not find a hot girl, of course this has reasons. But there i see a chance to get a nice beauty.

so, what advice can you give me: Which cities in belarus, Ukraine or Russia.

Post: #213

I was recently in Minsk for three weeks

To be honest I wish I spent less time there, although I have a location independent to keep me busy I still got bored quickly

It's not a bad place, but sterile and lacking charm, like an exaggerated version of Germany. People there are workaholics, so if you go best to tell the girls what a busy man you are!. In the daytime any cafes that you can find are almost empty, people haven't got time for idle chit chat.

Restaurants are generally at a higher level than in Ukraine, I found some excellent places that would put most in Ukraine to shame. I would base yourself near a "Lido" Restaurant, something like Puzhata in Ukraine but higher quality, the last thing you want to be doing in Minsk is walking for miles to find sustenance when it's minus 20.

There are very pleasant parks, rivers, and cycle paths, although they won't appeal to much at this time of year.

The nightlife is quite decent, but nothing in comparison to neighbouring countries. As Batka says, best staying away from places like Rich Cat and Dozari, a high concentration of Turks and Whores, more so than you would find in Kiev clubs for example, with higher prices and more aggressive staff and security.

Online game is a good way to go there, many busy girls who haven't go time to go out and meet men.

I think you could find a decent woman there if you are prepared to put in the leg work, but not really a player's paradise. Going to Ukraine after Minsk was like entering the Garden of Eden for me

Although the girls are a step down from Ukraine, I still liked them, taller than Ukrainian girls and more wholesome in my opinion. There are plenty Belarussian girls that visit Ukraine, Lvov in winter, and Odessa in Summer, I will certainly be on the lookout for them

Post: #214

(11-20-2018 04:39 AM)BangBoy123 Wrote:  best staying away from places like Rich Cat and Dozari, a high concentration of Turks and Whores

Jesus. It seems like the Ottoman Empire finally conquered Europe then. Except it's not elite warriors raised from birth but rather Anatolian mountain inbreds throwing their 6 months' savings at women.

I was thinking Belarus would be my last frontier of not having to deal with Turkish / Middle Eastern sexpats but it turns out no.

Typically anywhere where Turkish / Middle Eastern men goes the dating market turns to shit. Even in Thailand some people are saying don't bother with Pattaya anymore. Try to use Tinder or go to bars in Kiev and practically every woman, even a 'good girl', either wants money upfront or wants to be sponsored.

It seems like Asia is the last frontier for white guys but who knows how many years left it has.

Post: #215

(11-20-2018 07:40 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 04:39 AM)BangBoy123 Wrote:  best staying away from places like Rich Cat and Dozari, a high concentration of Turks and Whores

Jesus. It seems like the Ottoman Empire finally conquered Europe then. Except it's not elite warriors raised from birth but rather Anatolian mountain inbreds throwing their 6 months' savings at women.

I was thinking Belarus would be my last frontier of not having to deal with Turkish / Middle Eastern sexpats but it turns out no.

Typically anywhere where Turkish / Middle Eastern men goes the dating market turns to shit. Even in Thailand some people are saying don't bother with Pattaya anymore. Try to use Tinder or go to bars in Kiev and practically every woman, even a 'good girl', either wants money upfront or wants to be sponsored.

It seems like Asia is the last frontier for white guys but who knows how many years left it has.

And what about russia? I suppose that there are no turks there, because of prices and visa requirements..

Post: #216

(11-18-2018 02:28 PM)Batka Wrote:  Take Rocha for example. He bangs FSU girls who show up on his patch in Lisbon and he doesn't engage in the above. He has good game. Moreover he also speaks Russian.

The game is changing... And I am one step ahead.

These countries like Ukraine and Belarus receive tons of sex turists, sexpats, looking to bang local women. Well, mostly these women already have their share of local guys hitting on them, or are straight up sluts/whores.

Countries like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece receive tons of Slavic women who are mostly lonely and/or with limited social groups. I focus mostly on expats and medium term residents like students, tourists are an extra in my diet.

Plus the diversity of the origin of these girls in cities like Barcelona, Milan, or even Lisbon is amazing, they can be Russian, Ukrainian, Baltic, Balkanic, Romanian...plus Brazilians, Czechs, Slovaks, Scandinavian, Latinas, Anglo-Saxons, locals....A guy never gets to deal with the same old boring questions "What are you doing in Ukraine?", "What made you come to Ukraine?", "Why Ukraine?", "Are girls in your country ugly?"...

Post: #217

When you find some girls you don't like then maybe give them a taste of their own medicine!

You: "Why are you in Lisbon???"

Her: "Uh...architecture, nice weather!"

You "Ohhh, many Ukrainian girls come here to look for rich man or to work as prostitute!"

Her: "Noooo!....sob sob"

Post: #218

(11-20-2018 09:07 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 02:28 PM)Batka Wrote:  Take Rocha for example. He bangs FSU girls who show up on his patch in Lisbon and he doesn't engage in the above. He has good game. Moreover he also speaks Russian.

The game is changing... And I am one step ahead.

These countries like Ukraine and Belarus receive tons of sex turists, sexpats, looking to bang local women. Well, mostly these women already have their share of local guys hitting on them, or are straight up sluts/whores.

Countries like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece receive tons of Slavic women who are mostly lonely and/or with limited social groups. I focus mostly on expats and medium term residents like students, tourists are an extra in my diet.

Plus the diversity of the origin of these girls in cities like Barcelona, Milan, or even Lisbon is amazing, they can be Russian, Ukrainian, Baltic, Balkanic, Romanian...plus Brazilians, Czechs, Slovaks, Scandinavian, Latinas, Anglo-Saxons, locals....A guy never gets to deal with the same old boring questions "What are you doing in Ukraine?", "What made you come to Ukraine?", "Why Ukraine?", "Are girls in your country ugly?"...

So you finished with Ukraine/Belarus and now focus in southern Europe for Slavic girls (and others) moving there?
I still find it quite less better. A slavic girl 7 in Milan will get much more approaches than any place back home and would be much more difficult.
When you stay long term, develop social circle you can do much better, not to mention the cost of living. But indeed, it requires long term travel to pick up the fruits.

Post: #219

(11-20-2018 02:20 PM)diego69 Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 09:07 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 02:28 PM)Batka Wrote:  Take Rocha for example. He bangs FSU girls who show up on his patch in Lisbon and he doesn't engage in the above. He has good game. Moreover he also speaks Russian.

The game is changing... And I am one step ahead.

These countries like Ukraine and Belarus receive tons of sex turists, sexpats, looking to bang local women. Well, mostly these women already have their share of local guys hitting on them, or are straight up sluts/whores.

Countries like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece receive tons of Slavic women who are mostly lonely and/or with limited social groups. I focus mostly on expats and medium term residents like students, tourists are an extra in my diet.

Plus the diversity of the origin of these girls in cities like Barcelona, Milan, or even Lisbon is amazing, they can be Russian, Ukrainian, Baltic, Balkanic, Romanian...plus Brazilians, Czechs, Slovaks, Scandinavian, Latinas, Anglo-Saxons, locals....A guy never gets to deal with the same old boring questions "What are you doing in Ukraine?", "What made you come to Ukraine?", "Why Ukraine?", "Are girls in your country ugly?"...

So you finished with Ukraine/Belarus and now focus in southern Europe for Slavic girls (and others) moving there?
I still find it quite less better. A slavic girl 7 in Milan will get much more approaches than any place back home and would be much more difficult.
When you stay long term, develop social circle you can do much better, not to mention the cost of living. But indeed, it requires long term travel to pick up the fruits.

Not finished with traveling to FSU, I think it is great fun guranteed, and that was always my goal, not looking for LTR or wife.

I just found another formula, cheaper and with better medium term results, than traveling back and forth. Cost of living is a non issue since I am a local, also I love the Ocean, and could not imagine living long term away from it.

Also I like to bang women from other cultures, it is refreshing to get a positive minded but very jeleous Brazilian, a crazy Portuguese slut who has no boundaries in bed, an extra kinky Czech or Slovak with good conversation skills, a good natured Baltic girl...the list goes on.

As for that 7 being approached more in Milano eg. that is a non issue, those approaches are none next to the relentless attacks that they receive from the local Slavic guys in their circles and in the clubs, bars, streets, coffee shops....Most guys in the West are too pussy to cold approach a woman, specially a good looking one, and the few who do, or guys with great SMV do not compare in number with FSU guys trying to bang them.

Also I am most of the times well received in my approaches, wether is 7 a 8 or 9, only 6s sometimes give me harsh rejections and stupid attitudes. Far from being the pretriest bloke around, I am not an ugly mofo )))

Post: #220

(11-20-2018 02:03 PM)ManX Wrote:  When you find some girls you don't like then maybe give them a taste of their own medicine!

You: "Why are you in Lisbon???"

Her: "Uh...architecture, nice weather!"

You "Ohhh, many Ukrainian girls come here to look for rich man or to work as prostitute!"

Her: "Noooo!....sob sob"

Very rarely I found a Ukrainian here who was not nice and respectful of the fact that I speak Russian. Does not mean I bang them all, but never had a harsh reception.

Also I despise online game, so normally I approach them already in Russian, my slavic detector never fails.

Post: #221

>> Except it's not elite warriors raised from birth but rather Anatolian mountain inbreds throwing their 6 months' savings at women.

I participate in a social activity in Kyiv that is popular all over the world and visitors to Kyiv are welcome to participate in the local group. (Please don't ask for specifics, if you are interested in this activity for its own sake, you'll easily find it.) Lots of Turks there too and no, they are not mountain inbreds. More like business owners (think construction company with hundreds of employees, not kebab shop), engineers, doctors, etc. Impressive in every way compared to the local men participating in this activity: grooming, physical fitness, dress, education, natural intelligence. Mostly they communicate with the locals and me in English, which the Ukrainian women in the group typically speak well. I'm not sure how well they do at wooing the women to be wives or lovers, since I never ask either them or the women about this topic and of they did anything in this regard, they do so discreetly. There are Turks and there are Turks, in other words. Same as you have ultra refined higher class Brits and then the rowdy drunks getting their passports stolen that most people associate with the phase "Brit on WizzAir vacation to Ukraine".

Post: #222

^Turkish bath?

Post: #223

(11-20-2018 06:46 PM)Shemp Wrote:  >> Except it's not elite warriors raised from birth but rather Anatolian mountain inbreds throwing their 6 months' savings at women.

I participate in a social activity in Kyiv that is popular all over the world and visitors to Kyiv are welcome to participate in the local group. (Please don't ask for specifics, if you are interested in this activity for its own sake, you'll easily find it.) Lots of Turks there too and no, they are not mountain inbreds. More like business owners (think construction company with hundreds of employees, not kebab shop), engineers, doctors, etc. Impressive in every way compared to the local men participating in this activity: grooming, physical fitness, dress, education, natural intelligence. Mostly they communicate with the locals and me in English, which the Ukrainian women in the group typically speak well. I'm not sure how well they do at wooing the women to be wives or lovers, since I never ask either them or the women about this topic and of they did anything in this regard, they do so discreetly. There are Turks and there are Turks, in other words. Same as you have ultra refined higher class Brits and then the rowdy drunks getting their passports stolen that most people associate with the phase "Brit on WizzAir vacation to Ukraine".

Impressive in every way compared to the local men? I don't think so.

Quote:I participate in a social activity in Kyiv that is popular all over the world and visitors to Kyiv are welcome to participate in the local group. (Please don't ask for specifics, if you are interested in this activity for its own sake, you'll easily find it.)

So don't ask for this specifics of this social activity, better just to find it?

Are you a Jehovah Witness?

Post: #224

I think Shemp's secret is safe with him, I doubt any of us want to go to any social event with a bunch of Turks

Post: #225

Probably one of those international clubs for ex-pats, like "inter-nations".