Post: #1

It would be a wide belief that Fat/Chubby girls go for skinny guys. They want skinny genes for their children. If you don't want to stick to those then what?

I am skinny. I have to eat so much food to put weight on that eating becomes boring. And expensive, and time consuming in shopping, cooking and stopping to eat all the time. I am not motivated to go to the gym, it also seems another waste of time. You fall off the wheel and then the muscle shrinks back to your normal size, just as you go back to your normal weight once you stop overeating.
Should I accept that this is what I look like and the size I am? If so, what type of girls will not be put off by a skinny guy? Are there any particular countries where the guys are all small built so that I will not seem too offputting to the native girls? Asian countries perhaps? China etc?

On the other side of the coin, places like Australia or South Africa are terrible places for game since there are so many huge surfer dudes there, we can't compete?

Anyone agree or not or maybe some suffer the same skinny genres, what did you do about it if anything. Perhaps I need to accept it and get rid of that insecurity. But I'm sure I've been on dates and that is why I was blown out when beforehand everything looked 100% full on. A woman will make excuses, oh no chemistry, we didn't click, whatever. They will never say sorry you are too skinny like you wouldn't say sorry you are too fat to a bird.

Post: #2

What happened to the belief that none of this stuff matters and it's all about 'game'?!! Amazing how the community has changed so much in a short time!
ps - Not having a go at you. I just find it so interesting how the whole definition of game has changed so much in like 5 years. Even some of the super hardcore 'looks don't matter' guys have backtracked a fair bit.

Anyway, depending on your age and where in the UK you are, I don't see being skinny as an issue. Somewhere like Essex seems to insinst you are some well muscled(roided), tattood, tanned loveIsland lookalike, but I think in lots of the UK, being skinny isn't much of an issue if a girl likes your face and you have a sense of style. And obviously in most asian countries, being skinny would barely been seen as a negative at ALL! (espcially if you're a white Brit in Aisa. That's easy mode right there!)

Post: #3

Cheers for that input. Yeah, well it can't be an issue for all girls otherwise I wouldn't have ever got anywhere. But I know what situations seem to work for me usually and that is where the confidence comes from. Anywhere in Asia?

One time I went on a date with a girl who had zero slutty looking profile pics, no cleavage nothing. Had been texting a month or two beforehand, a real rapport built even managed to chat on the phone to build it up. She turned up to the date with huge cleavage breasts on show and a short skirt. If you get blown out like I did, that makes the disappointment worse. Date went ok good flowing natural conversation, only thing I could put it down to was my size...

Post: #4

Well with that kind of defeatist attitude you're not going to stop being skinny. You've basically said you know what your problem is but you're not willing to fix it. It's basically become your issue that you now project on girls who pick up on that area of weakness. Yes it will take hard work and dedication but there is a solution to your problem and you just don't like it.

subterfuge I reckon Tinder has changed the equation for a lot of guys, I've seen guys with good game that basically have become Tinder dependent and now even when pulled away from that game they still fall back onto that mindset where looks is absolutely everything. I think it has also flowed through to how women look at men where they know that even as a shabby looking 4 they can be getting thirsty 8s on Tinder so why would they settle.

It really has blown the marketplace to pieces.

Post: #5

If you look around in the UK, the majority of good looking student girls 18-21 will be with young looking skinny guys, so there's really no excuse. That's not to say they may not prefer muscular guys, but in my 20 years of going out it's who they're with 9 times out of 10. If you're targeting older girls, or girls in urban type venues then things change.

Post: #6

Being skinny shouldn't really be an issue. As a matter of fact you should find it easier to dress well, and if you keep up on grooming it will help you feel good too. Confidence is really the issue here, work on your self and be proud of that fact. Wardrobe isn't the end all, but it's a start.

Also you can open/practice on girls in the shops, just ask their opinion on clothing. Be natural an honest with them and most will be happy to help you with their opinion.

Post: #7

I don't know why or what women prefer skinny guys, and I honestly don't care. I don't think you should base your strategy on what they prefer. There's no reason not to be stronger.

(01-26-2019 06:48 AM)fmman Wrote:  I am skinny. I have to eat so much food to put weight on that eating becomes boring. And expensive, and time consuming in shopping, cooking and stopping to eat all the time. I am not motivated to go to the gym, it also seems another waste of time. You fall off the wheel and then the muscle shrinks back to your normal size, just as you go back to your normal weight once you stop overeating.

It's not hard to gain weight. Go to the story and buy 70% lean ground beef and make them into quarter lb patties cooked in butter. Then throw on some mayo and cheese on a whole wheat bun.

Eat salads with lots of vinaigrette, croutons, bacon bits, and cheese.

Slice up some chicken/turkey and cook it in butter and seasoning, throw in some beans, avocado, brown rice, cheese, and make burritos.

Make smoothies with whole fat greek yogurt with a bit of whole milk, grape nuts, and peanut butter.

Buy some kodiak waffles and oats and slather them in coconut oil.

Most of the strength gains you make are neuromuscular. It takes a long time to lose a significant amount of strength, weeks and months of not training and undereating. If you do lose the weight again, you'll likely keep a lot of your strength. But it sounds like you're already self-defeated by saying you think you'll just give up anyway.

Post: #8

Alright then I won't get so worried about being skinny as 18-21 year olds are with skinny guys. I have a youthful face even though I am 44 all my hair and no grey, I still don't think I will be able to pull anyone less than 30.

If I can eat burgers etc and workout a bit then ok bonus but I won't worry about it

Post: #9

I could write the OPs opening message but complaining that I am naturally fat and can't be bothered to do anything about it, and blame girls that like skinny guys for my defeats.

Where do women like fat guys?

Post: #10

Oh please OP, I too have a metabolism like yourself.

The, "Woe is me, I eat everything" thing is just bunk. The truth is, your body burns through carbs and that's a good thing. You're not eating the right stuff.

Have your mom buy whole milk in those 2.5 liter jugs you get at the super market. Drink that with every meal. If you want to go for gold, drink that whole thing in 2 days.

Trust me, you'll put on weight. You might get chunky.

But you'll look good because those of us with high metabolisms have a gift.

Work on your whiny attitude and the women will come naturally.

Post: #11

(01-26-2019 06:55 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  What happened to the belief that none of this stuff matters and it's all about 'game'?!! Amazing how the community has changed so much in a short time!
ps - Not having a go at you. I just find it so interesting how the whole definition of game has changed so much in like 5 years. Even some of the super hardcore 'looks don't matter' guys have backtracked a fair bit.

Anyway, depending on your age and where in the UK you are, I don't see being skinny as an issue. Somewhere like Essex seems to insinst you are some well muscled(roided), tattood, tanned loveIsland lookalike, but I think in lots of the UK, being skinny isn't much of an issue if a girl likes your face and you have a sense of style. And obviously in most asian countries, being skinny would barely been seen as a negative at ALL! (espcially if you're a white Brit in Aisa. That's easy mode right there!)

Looks have always mattered as much as game, probably more.

Post: #12

(01-26-2019 04:41 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Where do women like fat guys?

Anywhere food is scarce. It will make you look like a nice fat rich target potential bang buddy.

Post: #13

(01-26-2019 05:11 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 06:55 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  What happened to the belief that none of this stuff matters and it's all about 'game'?!! Amazing how the community has changed so much in a short time!
ps - Not having a go at you. I just find it so interesting how the whole definition of game has changed so much in like 5 years. Even some of the super hardcore 'looks don't matter' guys have backtracked a fair bit.

Anyway, depending on your age and where in the UK you are, I don't see being skinny as an issue. Somewhere like Essex seems to insinst you are some well muscled(roided), tattood, tanned loveIsland lookalike, but I think in lots of the UK, being skinny isn't much of an issue if a girl likes your face and you have a sense of style. And obviously in most asian countries, being skinny would barely been seen as a negative at ALL! (espcially if you're a white Brit in Aisa. That's easy mode right there!)

Looks have always mattered as much as game, probably more.

I have to disagree. I've seen ugly ass dudes with super fine females even if they are not driving a rolls or any type of luxury car and/or rich. Yes you do need to be the best version of yourself which means going to the gym, watching after your health and basic stuff every man should do which in turn helps with confidence. I've seen naturally good looking guys get blown our and then blocked by a guy who came in with game. Either way, improve yourself to be your best version of you hygiene and weight wise and keep approaching!

Post: #14

(01-30-2019 10:14 PM)WomenLuvDeez Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 05:11 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 06:55 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  What happened to the belief that none of this stuff matters and it's all about 'game'?!! Amazing how the community has changed so much in a short time!
ps - Not having a go at you. I just find it so interesting how the whole definition of game has changed so much in like 5 years. Even some of the super hardcore 'looks don't matter' guys have backtracked a fair bit.

Anyway, depending on your age and where in the UK you are, I don't see being skinny as an issue. Somewhere like Essex seems to insinst you are some well muscled(roided), tattood, tanned loveIsland lookalike, but I think in lots of the UK, being skinny isn't much of an issue if a girl likes your face and you have a sense of style. And obviously in most asian countries, being skinny would barely been seen as a negative at ALL! (espcially if you're a white Brit in Aisa. That's easy mode right there!)

Looks have always mattered as much as game, probably more.

I have to disagree. I've seen ugly ass dudes with super fine females even if they are not driving a rolls or any type of luxury car and/or rich. Yes you do need to be the best version of yourself which means going to the gym, watching after your health and basic stuff every man should do which in turn helps with confidence. I've seen naturally good looking guys get blown our and then blocked by a guy who came in with game. Either way, improve yourself to be your best version of you hygiene and weight wise and keep approaching!

Looks are still the #1 tool you can have.

Looks are like having a great resume. You get to go straight into the interview pile for every job you apply. From there it's up to you to not stuff it up. Being ugly with elite game is like having to find creative ways to get an interview.

That's why looks maxing is such an integral part of game, it's what you do before even trying to approach a girl.

It's not everything by any means but it sure is playing on easy mode.

Post: #15

If girls are giving you shit for being skinny, then obviously fix that

Or just don't have any girls like you

Same goes for anything else they might give you shit for

You can "be you" (and have no one like you) or adapt to the situation