Post: #76

(06-13-2012 12:22 PM)bacan Wrote:  I am actually pleased in a perverse way to find out that the girls there are mediocre. The thought that the hottest girls in the world are cut off to me for financial reasons in countries like Sweden and Norway would really eat me up.

Roosh are you going to check out Norway? Your profile says you've never been. When I was there as a younger guy (before I even was really into sex/dating much) I remember meeting some pretty girls. Either way, it's a super gorgeous country and a really cool place. Maybe check out Bergen?

http://goscandinavia.about.com/od/norwa1...Norway.htm

I would not jump to this conclusion so quickly, Sweden has better looking girls than Norway (which is decent) and some of the best looking girls you will see in the world.
I am guessing Roosh is a bit turned off by the Scandinavian way (feminism) and do not forget his standards are alot higher than most guys out there.

Post: #77

(06-13-2012 12:22 PM)bacan Wrote:  I am actually pleased in a perverse way to find out that the girls there are mediocre. The thought that the hottest girls in the world are cut off to me for financial reasons in countries like Sweden and Norway would really eat me up.

Very narrow thinking. So because at the moment you can't afford it, you want there to be LESS countries with nice girls? You want all the guys to pile in to just a couple good countries?

Three years ago my financial situation prevented me from coming here, and chances are your finances will improve too. And when it does, you're basically saying that you hope you'll have less options.

Post: #78

Quote:Sweden has ... some of the best looking girls you will see in the world.

Can't you say that about several dozen countries? I could say that about... Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Estonia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland, and so on. What's important here is how Sweden compares to other countries based on a lot of metrics, not if there's a few hotties walking around. The top end of any country is not something you should use to judge the beauty of a country.

Quote:I am guessing Roosh is a bit turned off by the Scandinavian way (feminism) and do not forget his standards are alot higher than most guys out there.

Feminism is not bothering me here. The girls are only more attractive than Denmark out of all the countries I've been on. The cost is also second most expensive. Sweden has a lot of negatives, which I will detail at some point, that don't make it worth a trip. As of right now, I can't advise guys to come here for the girls.

I understand that there are a lot of Sweden fans on the forum, but compared to other countries I've been to, Sweden is faring very poorly.

Post: #79

Sweden is good if you like tall,blonde girls a bit overweight,liberal and open.They are also busty and have light eyes.Some people may not like the egalitarianism,the attitude of the girls,the high living standards and high prices and the whole Scandinavian welfare state which makes women more independant from men.Fashion is also not very stimulating in Sweden and make up is very mediocre.Lots of piercings etc.Generally Scandinavian women want to show they are tough and can endure pain.They are a bit more feminine than German women but compared to Slavic women they are on the masculine side.
However if you see Scandinavian vs Slavic women in bikinis under the sun Scandinavian will win.

Post: #80

(06-14-2012 08:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Sweden has ... some of the best looking girls you will see in the world.

Can't you say that about several dozen countries? I could say that about... Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Estonia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland, and so on. What's important here is how Sweden compares to other countries based on a lot of metrics, not if there's a few hotties walking around. The top end of any country is not something you should use to judge the beauty of a country.

Quote:I am guessing Roosh is a bit turned off by the Scandinavian way (feminism) and do not forget his standards are alot higher than most guys out there.

Feminism is not bothering me here. The girls are only more attractive than Denmark out of all the countries I've been on. The cost is also second most expensive. Sweden has a lot of negatives, which I will detail at some point, that don't make it worth a trip. As of right now, I can't advise guys to come here for the girls.

I understand that there are a lot of Sweden fans on the forum, but compared to other countries I've been to, Sweden is faring very poorly.

Yes although I am edging slowly northwards currently through Europe, Sweden is not on my radar. I like Swedish girls, but I understand that quality is probably inconsistent, and it's expensive to get a girl drunk.

Swedish girls are much more promiscuous outside Sweden I have heard, this rang true whilst in Thailand, they seem to go crazy there with the sun and cheaper alcohol.

So I will wait till Autumn until I am in Thailand, then I will base myself in the Southern Islands and concentrate purely on foreign chicks.

Post: #81

Don't forget India dude. You always seem to forget that



wait, what was that again?

(06-14-2012 08:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Can't you say that about several dozen countries? I could say that about... Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Estonia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland, and so on. What's important here is how Sweden compares to other countries based on a lot of metrics, not if there's a few hotties walking around. The top end of any country is not something you should use to judge the beauty of a country.

Quote:I am guessing Roosh is a bit turned off by the Scandinavian way (feminism) and do not forget his standards are alot higher than most guys out there.

Feminism is not bothering me here. The girls are only more attractive than Denmark out of all the countries I've been on. The cost is also second most expensive. Sweden has a lot of negatives, which I will detail at some point, that don't make it worth a trip. As of right now, I can't advise guys to come here for the girls.

I understand that there are a lot of Sweden fans on the forum, but compared to other countries I've been to, Sweden is faring very poorly.

Post: #82

(06-14-2012 08:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Sweden has ... some of the best looking girls you will see in the world.

Can't you say that about several dozen countries? I could say that about... Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Estonia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland, and so on. What's important here is how Sweden compares to other countries based on a lot of metrics, not if there's a few hotties walking around. The top end of any country is not something you should use to judge the beauty of a country.

Quote:I am guessing Roosh is a bit turned off by the Scandinavian way (feminism) and do not forget his standards are alot higher than most guys out there.

Feminism is not bothering me here. The girls are only more attractive than Denmark out of all the countries I've been on. The cost is also second most expensive. Sweden has a lot of negatives, which I will detail at some point, that don't make it worth a trip. As of right now, I can't advise guys to come here for the girls.

I understand that there are a lot of Sweden fans on the forum, but compared to other countries I've been to, Sweden is faring very poorly.

From what I remember from Uppsala, Sweden 15 years ago, for my junior year in college abroad, the top end girls made some guys fall from their bikes or almost get hit by a car, when one passed by. There was nothing in Europe, at that top level. But 15 years is a long time and yes the average was solid then. One generation of feminism definitely changes things physically and mentally.

Post: #83

I agree with a lot of what Roosh has been saying. If I were to come to Sweden for only a couple of weeks, I would have been frustrated and disappointed.

Like others have mentioned, meeting Swedish girls in Greece, Spain and Thailand over the years gave me unrealistic expectations. Once I was in Sweden, it took me over a month to adjust my game and expectations and even still over the course of five months I had only one hot streak. I did good with the women no doubt, but from a financial standpoint the return on investment was not that great. No regrets, I love the place and have some very good friends there now.

To just visit Sweden for a couple of weeks, Roosh advice is spot on. But if you have the chance to come here and study or work, I will stand by my advice and say go for it. In a heartbeat.

As I wrote on my Sweden thread, Swedish girls have a culture of sisterhood. They look out for each other. Not crazy and cockblockish, but definitely to point where it needs to be understood to unlock their circles. But once you are in, the access to beautiful women grows immensely.

In my last 6- 8 weeks there I settled into a short term relationship with an incredible girl, and I was accepted into her social circle. I began to realize just how fucking good it felt to be surrounded by women (and men) that will really look out for one another and help out when needed with no questions asked. They truly care about each other, there is almost zero of the backstabbing bullshit that other western women cant get enough of. There is something to be learned from a place like Sweden, but this is not something that you will get to see unless you put in some time there. Without being able to experience this side of the culture, I would not see Sweden as anything more than a very high functioning society with incredible genetics (and high prices).

Post: #84

Sorry for beating you yesterday Sweden (((

The fun starts at 2:59

Post: #85

(06-14-2012 07:58 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(06-13-2012 12:22 PM)bacan Wrote:  I am actually pleased in a perverse way to find out that the girls there are mediocre. The thought that the hottest girls in the world are cut off to me for financial reasons in countries like Sweden and Norway would really eat me up.

Very narrow thinking. So because at the moment you can't afford it, you want there to be LESS countries with nice girls? You want all the guys to pile in to just a couple good countries?

Three years ago my financial situation prevented me from coming here, and chances are your finances will improve too. And when it does, you're basically saying that you hope you'll have less options.

Yeah very true, very true. Short-term thinking.

Post: #86

(06-14-2012 08:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I understand that there are a lot of Sweden fans on the forum, but compared to other countries I've been to, Sweden is faring very poorly.

A Swedish college kid I knew said Sweden is the best for girls, almost as if he's inviting guys to come and fuck girls there. Lol was he booby trapping me?

Post: #87

(06-16-2012 10:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Sorry for beating you yesterday Sweden (((

The fun starts at 2:59

They girls in the video above don't even look Swedish.

Real Swedish girls are thick...

Post: #88

(06-16-2012 01:28 PM)sheesh Wrote:  They girls in the video above don't even look Swedish.

Real Swedish girls are thick...

Nice vid. The girls in the vid are cute, even if they are a bit thick.

Having met Swedish girls studying in the USA, they all seemed on the thicker side.

Post: #89

Man if I had dime for every expert on Swe in this is thread...

Post: #90

(06-16-2012 02:56 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Man if I had dime for every expert on Swe in this is thread...

There is no point debating it, to each is own I guess. Most guys I know who went there (Stockholm) raved about it and lost there minds.

Post: #91

II mentioned this to Roosh and it seems that there are few countries with so many diverging opinions on as Sweden. There are plenty of myths about the country that needs to be addressed, positive and negative. It'll be refreshing when Roosh concludes his stay and offers his low-down. Not that Roosh is the ultimate authority but at least that might offer a baseline for the forum.

Post: #92

(06-16-2012 11:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-16-2012 02:56 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Man if I had dime for every expert on Swe in this is thread...

There is no point debating it, to each is own I guess. Most guys I know who went there (Stockholm) raved about it and lost there minds.

I'm new here but I think It's a psychological effect that when you are looking forward to something you are going to end up fulfilling you expectations even when they are not quite true. Someone would even focus only into the hot looking girls and avoid the average/below average ones in order to makes his expectations to be real.

Post: #93

(06-16-2012 01:06 PM)the_conductor Wrote:  

(06-14-2012 08:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I understand that there are a lot of Sweden fans on the forum, but compared to other countries I've been to, Sweden is faring very poorly.

A Swedish college kid I knew said Sweden is the best for girls, almost as if he's inviting guys to come and fuck girls there. Lol was he booby trapping me?

This also happened to me in Thailand. A swedish guy was like "they love americans, anyone who isn't swedish".

He definitely had an encouraging tone to his voice.

Post: #94

(06-19-2012 08:26 PM)Julius_Cesar Wrote:  

(06-16-2012 11:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-16-2012 02:56 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Man if I had dime for every expert on Swe in this is thread...

There is no point debating it, to each is own I guess. Most guys I know who went there (Stockholm) raved about it and lost there minds.

I'm new here but I think It's a psychological effect that when you are looking forward to something you are going to end up fulfilling you expectations even when they are not quite true. Someone would even focus only into the hot looking girls and avoid the average/below average ones in order to makes his expectations to be real.

Sorry but not sure what you are implying with your remark.
Truth be told the first time I went to Sweden was not planned but a last minute trip, I also assumed the place was just hype. So I had no expectations or psychological effects, plus I am pretty picky to begin with.
I won't bore people with the details or some false bravado. The place just felt like the place I should be living.
Everyone has there place in the sun, sure the Colombian girls look better but I am not really interested in learning another language to get them.

Post: #95

(06-19-2012 11:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 08:26 PM)Julius_Cesar Wrote:  

(06-16-2012 11:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-16-2012 02:56 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Man if I had dime for every expert on Swe in this is thread...

There is no point debating it, to each is own I guess. Most guys I know who went there (Stockholm) raved about it and lost there minds.

I'm new here but I think It's a psychological effect that when you are looking forward to something you are going to end up fulfilling you expectations even when they are not quite true. Someone would even focus only into the hot looking girls and avoid the average/below average ones in order to makes his expectations to be real.

Sorry but not sure what you are implying with your remark.
Truth be told the first time I went to Sweden was not planned but a last minute trip, I also assumed the place was just hype. So I had no expectations or psychological effects, plus I am pretty picky to begin with.
I won't bore people with the details or some false bravado. The place just felt like the place I should be living.
Everyone has there place in the sun, sure the Colombian girls look better but I am not really interested in learning another language to get them.

Right, but I've been lurking a while and just read suddenly how all danish women are unfemenine monsters and swedish women are usually hot and more femenine, I don't buy the fall from heaven to hell between those 2 countries, I barely can tell those girls apart, well I can but there isnt that big difference afterall.

Post: #96

There is big coherence between Danish and Swedish women.Danish women are just average and unremarkable, Swedish women are way hotter top in Europe.Do not confuse easiness of girls and prices of a place with women hotness they are different things.

Post: #97

I've come to the conclusion that Swedish girls like foreigners for a short fling. Me as a Southern European guy, I find a way higher issue dealing with Swedes and Scandinavian women in general compared to feminine and easily submissive Eastern European women. Swedes want it all. They want a masculine guy that bangs them in the bed like a man should, a guy that leads them but they also want to be able to lead the relationship. Also, they most of the time want a guy that sees a woman as 100% their equal and doesn't judge them for being sluts (that's what Swedish guys do, they treat women like men. Which most Swedish girls regard as boring.. but then again that's what works best for them in relationships since there will be a lot less arguments.. I hope it makes sense to whoever is reading this, lol).

Relationships with Swedes and foreigners rarely work. Foreign guys are fun at first because they treat them like women subconsciously want to be treated.. but then their feminist education kicks in. You can't be always balls deep inside of her whenever she wants to educate you because you were raised in "an elderly culture" and the 'agreeing to get the bang' tactic gets boring sooner or later, especially when you have tons of hotties walking around open for a no issue bang. As Kamaki would say, this is a 'teufelskreis'

There are 2 types of Swedish girls. The ones who bang another guy every weekend and the ones who are more focused on LTR's. I've heard of solid 7's in a big city going over a year without even kissing someone after being with the same guy for multiple years. Yet, this does not mean that this kind of girl won't jump into bed with you on the same night.. if she likes you, it's not a big issue. It's just that those kind of girls are extremely picky and therefore might be conceived as cockteases.

Then there is the other half, that bangs a guy every weekend until...: She had sex more than than 3 or 4 times on different occasions with a guy. They become quite easily attached to you (to the point of not hooking up with other guys if you did your work right without even telling you). About faithfulness, I've seen girls not put out at all while their boyfriend was vacationing on the other side of the world and I've seen women give out their numbers while the boyfriend was in the toilet... haven't drawn any general conclusion on that yet.

But one thing is for sure, they love Americans and Southern Europeans. If not for a relationship, at least to bang your brains out for a weekend.

Post: #98

Swedish girls want to take what southern European guys are good at(flirt etc) without giving away necessarily the goods.Many times although you think you are close to bang you are left with penis in hand when she suddenly announces farewell or her girlfriend grabs her away.
They also view southern European guys as easy and not so demanding or complicated as swedish guys.They think of southern European mentality as a conservative one.A big mistake all Mediteranean men make is to become overjealous,possesive etc and these are qualities Germanic and Scandinavian women do not like at all.No swedish woman likes to be property of a man they are not submissive.so you have to give them space and be comfortable generally I do not display any kind of jealousness when dealing with women from every country.

Post: #99

I was actually going to say that looks matter a lot in Sweden, but then I read a passage in Bang where Roosh says that that's just a self-fulfilling belief. Still though, here I get the feeling that the game is rigged in girls' favor, relative to other countries I've been where its more 50/50 or better. Basically, you present your pitch to girls and they then choose which one they want.

Greek kamaki is very right that Swedish girls don't like possessive guys. I've probably lost out on many girls directly and indirectly because of this, but then again I go for quality over quantity. By the way, I was slightly critical of Greek kamaki when he first came here but now I think he's a great asset to the forum.

Also, based on my limited sample size, when a Swedish girl agrees to go on a date it doesn't necessarily mean that she's attracted to you IME.

Post: #100

Looks do matter a lot with Swedish girls, but I think game can also work well on them