Post: #1

This is the BPD/Crazy support group thread. I'm starting this thread with the intention to help guys like us that may run across a BPD/Crazy with the following:

1. Identification / call out the red flags (i.e. is it BPD or real Crazy or overreacting?)
2. Help with decision to go No Contact?
3. Rehab / Update (e.g. that CRAZY poosy is so good, I think I will go back for just ONE more time...)

I was surprised to see how many people on this board seem to have come across BPD and know that the only true way to deal with it is to go no contact. [I saw these guys make mention but I'm sure there are more of you on this board: dreambig, WIA, Mage, frenchie, samsamsam, YossariansRight, hwuzhere, Vaun, CMQ]

BPD is not something that is treated with drugs and is very rare that they get help and actually get diagnosed. We have to be on our own watch. That said, we also don't want to overreact and throw a hot chica out of the rotation if it isn't warranted. To borrow from a couple of other threads, we don't want to kick a girl out because she got a "D" in math, but we also don't want to take chances with chicks that send texts about a dream of their father putting a knife in their vagina! (Wowsers! - that was CRAZY!)

For this thread, let's try to stick to a general format so that it doesn't digress into a general data dump on how we "feel" about this shit or different academic views. The goal should be:

Step 1: Identification. Lay out your Red Flags first.
For example:
Red Flag #1: She can't stop talking about how much she hates her mom (wishes her dead)
Red Flag #2: She tells you she had a dream about her father putting a knife in her vagina and that she was molested (had to borrow this!)
Red Flag #3: She says that in her past three relationships that her boyfriend beat her and she had to go to the hospital
Red Flag #4: She gets instantly clingy and doesn't want to be alone. Example: you meet this chick for the first time, go to dinner, go to her place and fuck her. Your start getting dressed and she starts begging you to stay the night. When you are almost out the door she pleads "I'm scared to be alone, I think blah, blah, will happen...won't you stay"
Red Flag #5: She can only see an argument or point of view from black/white, yes/no, good/bad. (binary brain)

Step 2: Decision to go No Contact or just be on alert.
This is where you say that you are either on alert or have decided to go NC. This is also where you should ask the group if they think you called it right. The group can help you determine if you might have a BPD vampire in your midst and that you need to run for the hills.

REMEMBER: BPD chicks are the sirens. It is hard to diagnose yourself when you are under the drug of probably the best sex of your life and the chick is so fucking hot that you wake up wondering how you stumbled across inferno pussy from your latest issue of Playboy.

In my opinion, most of us have a red flag or two. I generally can give 3 red flags for free, and perhaps even a 4th if the chick is off the charts (hot, fun, incredible in sack). Let's not recommend No Contact lightly as the poster is the one making the sacrifice. [But, if you get the knife in the vagina red flag...]

Step 3: Update and Support for No Contact
If you did throw your favorite pussy out of the rotation, and you need help...give an update. Example: you just couldn't take it anymore and you convinced yourself "she wasn't THAT bad"...so you sent her a text. Now you have plans to try it just ONE more time. Do yourself a favor and make a post and hopefully you get some feedback on why you decided to go NC in the first place.

Post: #2

They will love you like you've never been loved and hate you like you've never been hated.

Post: #3

Quote:BPD is not something that is treated with drugs

yes it is, it's treated with Lithium.

It evens out their moods so they don't have the dizzying highs and rock-bottom lows, but unfortunately it means they rarely get enthused about anything at all. I'm not sure which is worse.

Post: #4

I will post one of mine. The Russian. True Soviet pussy. Some of the best sex ever. She could take a pounding like no other, and I would walk away having bruised MY hips! I desperately want just one more time (and she'd be down).

1. The Red Flags:
- Everything was cool for a couple of weeks (note: BPDs are great actresses). Then the red flags starting popping up:
Red Flag #1: Hated her mom
Red Flag #2: Turns out she had been married FOUR times. She complained of abuse by three of them. (one was a distinguished doctor, but somehow hospitalized her)
Red Flag #3: She said that when she was in her early twenties she was a "gunrunner" between Russia and Europe (followed by saying her family is Mob back home)
Red Flag #4: When it was time to leave she really wanted me to stay, and practically started shaking when I said I had to bail...

2. My decision: I went ahead and decided to go No Contact? Last text from her said "I look forward to seeing you Wednesday". I simply didn't reply.

She hasn't been bugging me. She is completely normal in person and is very sophisticated. She is charming and classy enough to the point where I could easily take her with me to my highest of profile business dinners. BUT, the red flags above had me concerned and I've been scorched by BPD before. I simply don't want to give this one up if I'm calling this one wrong. Especially since none of my chicas are on the potential girlfriend plan. Throwing this chica out of the rotation wasn't easy...(not emotionally, she was simply my favorite).

I've been tempted to go back just one more time, and I think if I texted her soon I could probably still get back in there. (Went NC over 3 weeks ago...but, I'm a slick talker)

Post: #5

Vroom - you are confusing Borderline with Bi-Polar. This isn't a bi-polar thread, nor manic/depressive, nor multiple personality, nor any other conditions that can be treated with drugs. Borderlines are the female vampires and they are only a shade of gray away from Sociopaths (and sociopaths can't be treated with drugs either). BUT, sometimes they have overlapping conditions and the overlapping conditions can be treated with drugs.

For the benefit of this thread: BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder. (Not Bi-Polar).

Everyone should google it...no way you are living the lifestyle of banging chicks and won't come across one at some point.

Post: #6

ahhh the other BPD. My bad.

Post: #7

Thanks for starting this thread. I believe that this is a safe place for me to finally tell my BPD story.

I met a girl when I was 21, two months shy of my 22nd birthday. She worked at my school for dining services and she was a smoking hot Indian, who weighed about 68 LB and had an IQ of 72.

Even though I'd never kissed a girl before and was super awkward around girls, she happened to have a thing for guys who looked just like me. After hanging out for about 12 days (getting to know each other) on her breaks at work and then at a party, she eventually made an excuse to come inside my house after giving me a ride home one night.

There, she eventually worked up the courage to suggest that I let her kiss me, (over the course of sitting silently next to each other on a coach for three years). I admitted that I had never kissed a girl before, but decided to make a stab at her lips, at which point she went nuts and we made out for the next hour or so. I sucked at it.

We started dating, even though she was incredibly stupid and our conversations were as dull as mud, because I was thirsty and she was super hot.

After about one month of ecstasy and lying to myself believing that she might be the one, I started noticing some weirdness.

It took a lot of courage, but when she hit me one day after nearly 5 months of dating, breaking up, getting back together again and then breaking up once more on a repeated basis, I finally broke up with her for real.

I moved back to my parent's place for the summer and worked, earning money for the fall semester. By the end of the summer, we'd agreed that we were just friends and since she was going to be in Canada for a wedding the same weekend I needed to head back to school for the fall semester, I accepted her offer for a ride back to the USA.

When we met in Canada, she tried to kiss me and got upset when I wouldn't let her. She spent the next five hours being weird, including sleeping in her car at 5PM when I went to go meet a friend.

After more weirdness, I eventually convinced her to drop me off at my hotel and she left for hers. After three hours of getting lost (she had a GPS unit), she came back to my hotel, where I was about ready to go to bed after sharing two drinks over the evening with other people I had met in the hotel lounge.

She'd left her car somewhere and gotten ride to my hotel by some good Samaritan. We left the hotel to look for her car and she suddenly decided that she wanted to be a street person. She met some actual street people at 3AM and drank some hard alcohol one of them had, before passing out cold on the ground. When I picked her up to carry her somewhere safe, she finally came to and started freaking out, throwing herself on the ground and thrashing around.

A laid down and pulled her on top of me, try to protect her from the pavement.

Some passerbyers helped me by calling 911. The ambulance and police arrived and she was still going nuts, so it took 5 big paramedics to hold her down on a stretcher.

The police must have thought that she was on drugs and didn't believe my story and spent 3 hrs interviewing me alone in an alley, before finally releasing me.

I eventually tracked her down after she was released from a hospital and we went to my parents place, slept for 20 hrs and then drove to the US.

Two weeks later, her mom asked me to go with her to keep her safe during a day trip to Chicago to pick up two mutual friends. She freaked out in the car on the way home and tried to crawl out the window while I was driving down the highway at 70 m/h.

I pulled over, she crawled out of the window and I chased her down in a field in the middle of no where. Our two friends and I eventually coxed her back to the car, where we sat on her and drove 4 hrs back to our city in another state.

We thought she'd calmed down by that point, but she ended up running away from us, locking herself in her house and threatened to kill herself.

Called the cops, kicked in the door, and made sure the she didn't do anything to herself until the police arrived and took over the situation.

This time they were a lot more helpful.


I cut off contact with her a week later. I've been a much happier man every since.

Post: #8

Great thread. I suggest that we be flexible about which personality disorder we are talking about. There are many types including borderline, narcissistic, histrionic and sociopathic and they are all connected.

I did some research into personality disorders some time ago and found that, while there are some differences between the various types of personality disorder, they are generally recognized to be fluid in nature and all part of the same side of the coin. That is to say, if a girl is BPD, she probably exhibits narcissistic or sociopathic traits too. I'll use the term BPD for simplicity but assume it could be any of the above.

The tragic thing is that these girls are usually on the hottest end of the spectrum. BPD girls are not ugly or obese - if they were we could just ignore them. They tend to be SMV 8+ and have attention-seeking/sexual jobs such as models, flight attendants, actresses, porn stars, hostesses, strippers and so on.

These girls are master manipulators. They know all the tricks and will out-game you if you are not careful. In general, their symptoms get better with age. Coincidence? No. The "symptoms" are based on having good looks with which to manipulate men.

Here are some examples of the ones I have come across:

The flight attendant - this girl was my initiation into the dark side. I went from confident player to demoralized beta male in the space of 10 months. Amazing pussy but toxic to the extreme.

1. The Red Flags:
- She approached me in a club.
Red Flag #1: Lack of impulse control- Makeout 2 minutes after meeting. Went home with me that night.
Red Flag #2: Machiavellian - Didn't care that I had a girlfriend - made it her mission to win me over and in the end she did. The pussy was too good to resist.
Red Flag #3: Idealization - Worshipped me for the first few months. My ego found it hard to resist such attention from a very hot girl. It is addictive. You feel on top of the world. Unfortunately this was followed by the total opposite:
Red Flag #4: Devaluation - A few months in she was convinced that I cheated on her and decided I was the scum of the earth. She criticized everything about me and suddenly wanted to change my fashion, my looks, my personality. Sex suddenly decreased.
Red Flag #5: Hot/Cold - From crazily in love to hating me and back again in the space of hours.
Red Flag #6: Cheating - Never caught her but 90% sure she was seeing other guys. Towards the end she asked for an open relationship but only for her - I wasn't allowed to "cheat" lol.
Red Flag #7: Emotional but shallow - At first I thought she was just "sensitive" but over time realized these feelings were shallow. She could cry in despair and then be in the best of spirits a moment later.
Red Flag #8: Intimacy issues - If we got too close she would draw away by not sleeping over anymore or claiming that I called her too much - only to reverse this on a different day and say I was being cold towards her. This intimacy dance is the most frustrating part. You start to doubt your own judgement because of the crazy twists in mood.
Red Flag #9: Attention whoring - Facebook addict. Constant updates to please her legion of orbiters.

2. My decision: Finally broke up with her 10 months in but it took a lot out of me. When I dumped her, she went from crying to laughing to being heartbroken all in the space of a day. She never contacted me again but saw me in the street 2 months later and told me "she still loved me". Crazy shit.

The 18 year-old fashion model

1. The Red Flags:
- Met her in a club with a cold approach on the dancefloor.
Red Flag #1: Lack of impulse control - Makeout 2 minutes after meeting.
Red Flag #2: Promiscuity - Only 18 but had already slept with a load of guys AND girls. Far kinkier than any girl I'd ever been with at that point. Loved it rough. Tried to set up threesomes.
Red Flag #3: Intimacy issues - Had difficulty forming any kind of relationship. Every guy she dated fell in love with her which made her push them away.

2. My decision: Never had any real issues with this one, probably because we never got out of the honeymoon period. Kept seeing her for 3 months until she left the country which was perfect timing. Had tons of kinky sex on demand, made homemade porn videos etc...good times.

The hotel receptionist

1. The Red Flags:
- Met her in a bar. She was alone.
Red Flag #1: Numb/flat feelings - Obviously on some kind of medication.
Red Flag #2: Promisicuity - Very kinky. Seeing multiple guys at once but never has a boyfriend.
Red Flag #3: Mood swings - From angry to sweet and back again in flashes of a moment.
Red Flag #4: Hot/Cold - Randomly changes her mind about me to get what she wants.

2. My decision: Still seeing her but only once a month or so. Luckily I'm wiser than before so I know how to deal with her. I keep my distance and only call her up when I'm horny.

The below book is a fantastic introduction to the subject. It's not just for avoiding crazy girls. Read it and you will recognize the types from your professional life and maybe even your family.

http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Vampires...l+vampires

The Rational Male also wrote a must-read post about BPD girls:

http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/20/bo...y-disorder

While RM advises to avoid BPD's at all costs, with a little game and distance you can enjoy the freaky sex for long periods. As written above, I limit meetings to 1-2 times a month - these girls tend to be drawn to unavailable men so this works well. Be careful though. Get too close and they will consume you.

Post: #9

^ agreed. We should definitely include other personality disorders (narcissistic, histrionic, sociopath). But the key here is that for personality disorders (PDs) there is no medication. All you can do is RUN. As opposed to a condition caused chemical imbalance.

I keep seeing people posting "just tell her to go to the Dr. and gest some medicine and keep banging her", and trying to sift these out. This stuff is way to dangerous to brush off like that.

Post: #10

I'm surprised that more guys don't have stories to share.

Post: #11

^I know. I have enough in my closet that I think I will just start posting stories about crazy bitches and their red flags to help all of those that haven't run across that many.

I'm sure the vets on here have their own cheat sheet, but especially for the younger guys, there are some real crazies out there that are not easy to spot. (like, vampire style...or, invasion of the body snatchers...some crazy bitches that might take 3 months to spot if you don't know what you are looking for).

Post: #12

Like Anon said, the signs are often hard to read until too late unless you have experience with this type of broad.

Being extremely adept manipulators these bitches tend to bring out beta/omega behaviour from otherwise alpha guys - not exactly something most men will admit to. That might be why this thread hasn't yet got the attention it deserves.

Post: #13

Suits - your story above is prime time! Classic BPD. There are obviously different categories of BPD, but there are really two main categories:
- One kind is "low functioning / highly visible". No Mensa or Phi Beta Kappa here. Often comes with drugs and cutting.
- The other is "high functioning / invisible". These types gravitate towards social work, psychiatry and law and by almost definition have a high level of education and "blend in". No drugs or cutting.

- Both kinds have no feelings
- Both lie better than most tell the truth
- Both will pull some trap to "enmesh" early on (e.g. fake pregnancy, I'm gonna kill myself, etc.)
- Almost every single one of these bitches are HOT AS FUCK...true sirens...stuff that will make you rationalize far past where you know your boundaries should lie

The advantage of the "low functioning / highly visible" is that you know something is wrong pretty early on. The other type is better at cloaking themselves. (but, there are ways to spot both, which is why I wanted to start this thread)

Post: #14

I got some stories, but on my mobile now. I'll post some in the near future.

Post: #15

Dreambig - you nailed it.

I truly hope others can educate themselves on this type of broad. If I had known about BPD, I can assure you that I would've have spotted it and saved a lot of time and a ton of money.

Post: #16

These types of women could pass for normal in the pre-Internet era. But Facebook, as annoying as it is, exposes them instantly.

Their attention-whoring, insane status updates, and constant fights with everyone overrides their looks when you're not with them in person. Of course, they still have Beta orbiters offering to play White Knight for whatever daily drama they're dealing with on that day.

I just had a female friend post a status update about how being on Match.com is so difficult. A bunch of Betas offered her sympathy and one said maybe she'll find her Prince Charming. She wrote that she didn't want Prince Charming, just a regular guy who appreciated her. So why, then, is she on Match meeting strangers, and not dating any of the nice guy Beta Oribiters she already knows?

Post: #17

DBA - I agree, but only if you know what to look for. The fact is, a smoking hot chick that says "I just want a regular guy" seems so normal. Their whole card is to blend in like normal. Chameleons. Sirens.

Once you know the classic signs, it is almost like they are aware you can detect them.

- Push/Pull
- Afraid of being alone
- Splitting (black or white)
- Promiscuity (invisible ones will convince you they are Donna White when really more like Jenna Jamison)
- Fall in love instantly / soul mates
- Gaslighting
- Feeling of "needing" someone else to survive / doesn't want to be alone (e.g. asks you to stay the night on the first night and will beg for you to stay if you want to leave)
- Heavy need for reassurance
- Difficulty tolerating aloneness, even for short periods of time.
- Lives may be a chaotic landscape of job losses, interrupted educational pursuits, broken engagements, hospitalizations.
- Many have a background of childhood physical, sexual, or emotional abuse or physical/emotional neglect.

OH, and if you have any of the above and see this big red flag:
- If early on she tells you about all of the HORRIBLE relationships she has been in, especially claims of RAPE, and BATTERY, by more than one ex-boyfriend/husband...be VERY careful!

Post: #18

(03-25-2014 12:55 AM)anonymous123 Wrote:  DBA - I agree, but only if you know what to look for. The fact is, a smoking hot chick that says "I just want a regular guy" seems so normal. Their whole card is to blend in like normal. Chameleons. Sirens.

Once you know the classic signs, it is almost like they are aware you can detect them.

- Push/Pull
- Afraid of being alone
- Splitting (black or white)
- Promiscuity (invisible ones will convince you they are Donna White when really more like Jenna Jamison)
- Fall in love instantly / soul mates
- Gaslighting
- Feeling of "needing" someone else to survive / doesn't want to be alone (e.g. asks you to stay the night on the first night and will beg for you to stay if you want to leave)
- Heavy need for reassurance
- Difficulty tolerating aloneness, even for short periods of time.
- Lives may be a chaotic landscape of job losses, interrupted educational pursuits, broken engagements, hospitalizations.
- Many have a background of childhood physical, sexual, or emotional abuse or physical/emotional neglect.

OH, and if you have any of the above and see this big red flag:
- If early on she tells you about all of the HORRIBLE relationships she has been in, especially claims of RAPE, and BATTERY, by more than one ex-boyfriend/husband...be VERY careful!

I agree. I should have given the above paragraph some context. She has most, though not all, of those signs. Some women are good at hiding it, but their history proves otherwise.

Her new status comes on the heels of her "giving up men," constant updates on fights with men and women she knows, whining about her job...and then there's her backstory from her twenties. Despite having dozens of men could have married, she chose the one who ran up her credit cards behind her back and drove her to bankruptcy and lost their house.

I'm really surprised no one has called her on her search for a nice guy in the world of strangers when she's surrounded by nice guys. I guess people are blind to the obvious.

Post: #19

(03-06-2014 01:48 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Great thread. I suggest that we be flexible about which personality disorder we are talking about. There are many types including borderline, narcissistic, histrionic and sociopathic and they are all connected.

I did some research into personality disorders some time ago and found that, while there are some differences between the various types of personality disorder, they are generally recognized to be fluid in nature and all part of the same side of the coin. That is to say, if a girl is BPD, she probably exhibits narcissistic or sociopathic traits too. I'll use the term BPD for simplicity but assume it could be any of the above.

Yeah I'm not trained or knowledgeable enough to know the exact differences between each according to official DSM definitions.

But I can def throw out some red flags based on experience with different girls who could fall under one, or multiple headings:

Red Flags:

- In a short time period, she becomes fully confident you're "the one" whether it's marriage, or the savior exception to past guys. Can also manifest as delusions about the status of your relationship (i.e. "In my head you were my boyfriend").

- Crying for random/odd reasons (i.e. after a marathon, you don't climax for the ____ time, she thinks she's done something wrong, despite satisfying you plenty of times over).

- Doesn't accept boundaries (i.e. driving to your place after you told her it's over, or that you're finished with an argument).

- Let's irrational/fictional fears influence day to day behaviour (i.e asks you to check under her bed before you go to sleep together, or is so terrified of horror movie type things like ghosts, she can't even rationally discuss them).

- Frequently has new "best friends" yet rarely keeps these friends for longer than 1-2 years before drama destroys everything. Longest known friends are actually superficial or shallow friendships closer to acquaintances.

- Compulsive lying, even to the point of nonsensical lying (i.e. can't make it into work since a relative died, instead of just claiming to be sick like most people would).

- Bad impulse control, when money is around it's spent right away, can't turn down free drinks, drugs, etc.

- Spoiled/Privileged upbringing, yet resents/blames their parents, or convinced parents are out to get them.

- Swings of emotion based on attention. Someone unfollowing them on Twitter can spark a sour mood.

- Accuses you of manipulation in order to trigger any remaining white knight guilt, makes grandiose claims of "emotional abuse" to make you doubt yourself


These are just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.

The main thing to remember though is that you should be your own monitor for Red Flags too, if you find yourself rationalizing a girl's behaviour in order to continue seeing her, she's already winning.

If a bunch of friends know even part of the story and they say to cut her loose, and you're arguing her side, she's already winning.

Post: #20

Damn LeBeau! Exactly.

On the point made earlier by DreamBig, key here is to call out personality disorders. Stuff that can be cured quickly with a pill pales in comparison to these personality disorder ("PD") types.

That said, I met a crazy bitch a month ago that was of the medicated kind. She was convinced that she was supposed to be "Pink", and got robbed of the opportunity. Ended up at her place with her sitting on my lap singing songs karaoke style (she was legitimately in a band...but more like the local bar venue...not Pink!). Key take-away here is that she didn't have me fooled for very long, unlike a PD type. I mean, we were drinking all night and I said that I needed some water and Advil before bed...instead she offered me a Stella and pulled out her basket of prescription drugs and offered me whatever I wanted. (Didn't take me long to figure out that I needed to blaze the next morning!)

Post: #21

(03-25-2014 01:14 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 01:48 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Great thread. I suggest that we be flexible about which personality disorder we are talking about. There are many types including borderline, narcissistic, histrionic and sociopathic and they are all connected.

I did some research into personality disorders some time ago and found that, while there are some differences between the various types of personality disorder, they are generally recognized to be fluid in nature and all part of the same side of the coin. That is to say, if a girl is BPD, she probably exhibits narcissistic or sociopathic traits too. I'll use the term BPD for simplicity but assume it could be any of the above.

Yeah I'm not trained or knowledgeable enough to know the exact differences between each according to official DSM definitions.

But I can def throw out some red flags based on experience with different girls who could fall under one, or multiple headings:

Red Flags:

- In a short time period, she becomes fully confident you're "the one" whether it's marriage, or the savior exception to past guys. Can also manifest as delusions about the status of your relationship (i.e. "In my head you were my boyfriend").

- Crying for random/odd reasons (i.e. after a marathon, you don't climax for the ____ time, she thinks she's done something wrong, despite satisfying you plenty of times over).

- Doesn't accept boundaries (i.e. driving to your place after you told her it's over, or that you're finished with an argument).

- Let's irrational/fictional fears influence day to day behaviour (i.e asks you to check under her bed before you go to sleep together, or is so terrified of horror movie type things like ghosts, she can't even rationally discuss them).

- Frequently has new "best friends" yet rarely keeps these friends for longer than 1-2 years before drama destroys everything. Longest known friends are actually superficial or shallow friendships closer to acquaintances.

- Compulsive lying, even to the point of nonsensical lying (i.e. can't make it into work since a relative died, instead of just claiming to be sick like most people would).

- Bad impulse control, when money is around it's spent right away, can't turn down free drinks, drugs, etc.

- Spoiled/Privileged upbringing, yet resents/blames their parents, or convinced parents are out to get them.

- Swings of emotion based on attention. Someone unfollowing them on Twitter can spark a sour mood.

- Accuses you of manipulation in order to trigger any remaining white knight guilt, makes grandiose claims of "emotional abuse" to make you doubt yourself


These are just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.

The main thing to remember though is that you should be your own monitor for Red Flags too, if you find yourself rationalizing a girl's behaviour in order to continue seeing her, she's already winning.

If a bunch of friends know even part of the story and they say to cut her loose, and you're arguing her side, she's already winning.

"In a short time period, she becomes fully confident you're "the one" whether it's marriage, or the savior exception to past guys. Can also manifest as delusions about the status of your relationship (i.e. "In my head you were my boyfriend")."

Hahahaha. The woman I was referencing above has this on her Facebook page in one of those "Notes" titled Wedding Day.

6) How long were you together before the engagement?
Met in January, engaged in May.

7) How long did you wait to Tie The Knot after the proposal?
Engaged in May, married in October.

and of course the list ends with this:

25) How long have you been married?
Divorced now...

Post: #22

Not even sure if this belongs here. Just met a chick off of okcupid that is possibly crazy.

Very hot, almost too hot for online dating unless she was severely damaged.

Does not want to give out her phone number, instead talked me into installing kik on my phone.

We talk a little on kik and she flat out says she just wants to have sex with me straight away.

Eventually calls me but masks her number so it is restricted and wants me to have phone sex with her. I tell her I do not get off on that and need to feel the flesh.

I could tell something was off, and she admits to crying earlier and being on anti depressants. But does not want to say what pills she is taking because that is too personal.

Has a dead brother. As long as she didn't kill him, i think i can live with it.

Before she called, she freaked out on me, I was like 'what, you just want to come over and have sex, just like that?' and she said we could have dinner first. I said maybe lunch would be better in case we decided we aren't a good match. She lost it and said I was rude and made her cry.(then immediately called and asked for phone sex and swapped nude pix). My brain is telling me to stay away because of the red flags, my dick wants to bang.

the other red flag is that she is in anaheim and listed herself as in los angeles on okc. Banging body, nice face, but fucked up emotionally and possibly crazy. Do I cut her off or pursue her and bang?

Post: #23

Never KNOWINGLY stick your dick in crazy.

For her to be showing signs like that from the get-go, she's off her rocker.

Guaranteed.

Not worth a possible false rape charge.

Be lead by your cranium, not your cock on this one.

Post: #24

but she is hot...

she works with special ed children, probably doesn't meet many men or get approached at work. but yea, something is definitely off, but like i said, this chick is hot.

Post: #25

She doesnt have your number or name?

Rent a room, cash, and hit it then disappear.