Post: #1

I have an interest that isn't actually sick, but is nervous that they may have some more unpleasant underlying disease. Some symptoms are pointing in that direction. How do you check in with them, show sympathy and care without seeming like a total beta bitch? Thoughts?

Post: #2

So long as you're checking-in and doing something (gasp!) nice for this person without expecting anything in return...

Again, without expecting anything in return...

Then you are a James Bond Alpha Motherfucker.

^ This isn't to make fun. As we know, it's easy to take the Alpha/Beta thing too far - we are probably doing that here... - but to give and not to count the cost for another human being in need is dope.

Make damn sure that whatever you do is not transactional in nature. If so, then you have done a good deed with a clear conscience.

The "beta" move is to (m'lady) expect shit in return.

Post: #3

Be Patch Adams take her mind off the disease with humor and flirting.

Don't get melodramatic and sappy about it.

Text her a funny pic of a cat dressed up as a patient in a hospital bed. Make it all light hearted.

Tell her what you want her to leave you in her Will.

Post: #4

Care for them, but don't fawn over them and don't offer support in any other form than sexual or the odd bunch of flowers

Post: #5

^ Flowers are a bad move imo if you are tryin to fuck her and are in America. If she was already a girlfriend that's different.

I think the OP needs to be her personal oasis to get her mind off everything.

Post: #6

I stopped caring completely. Funny enough that seems to make me more attractive. But at this point, I genuinely do not care anymore about how a woman feels or thinks. It's no longer an act

Post: #7

I wouldn't worry about it until the doctors have confirmed whether or not she actually has some illness.

Post: #8

This isn't about "alpha", "beta", "game", or sex.

This is about a sick person.

Treat her the way you would want your mother or sister to be treated.

You can do this and still be a strong, masculine man.

Use humor. Show support and empathy, just don't be a total validation seeking beta loser about it.

Post: #9

(09-16-2014 11:53 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  I stopped caring completely. Funny enough that seems to make me more attractive. But at this point, I genuinely do not care anymore about how a woman feels or thinks. It's no longer an act

That's unfortunate.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #10

^ Unfortunate but true in America at least.

Recently on dates I have been asked on the first date if I am bored. Which I can often be looking around at other people, fantasizing about fucking the cocktail waitress.

I can see my date get more turned on when asking this question.

Makes me a little sick inside.

Good thing I like alcohol and weed.

Post: #11

(09-16-2014 11:53 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  I genuinely do not care anymore about how a woman feels or thinks.

Most likely, this will cause your own suffering.

And, it may cause other people to suffer as well.

That is a hard way to go through life.

Life is often more enjoyable when we allow ourselves to feel.

Psychopaths and sociopaths are often tortured, frustrated people.

Being feeling-less and emotion-less is nothing to strive for, in my opinion.

Managing these feelings with the appropriate perspective is much healthier, in my opinion.

Turning them off is dangerous to yourself and others.

Post: #12

Gio is right.

I see posts here all the time about not giving a fuck about women etc. To the point of implying that one should NOT CARE. It's not the same.

If a human being can't take care of himself OR HERSELF, care for them, period, especially if you're connected to them in some way.

This actually makes you a better MAN, whether you define that as alpha or not. Men have cared for and protected women for ages. They weren't betas.

Post: #13

Hold on there -- before any talk about beta and alpha, what are these symptoms and what unpleasant disease are they presumed to indicate?

Young people (and I assume your girl is young) rarely get any really serious illnesses -- not that it doesn't happen, but it's uncommon. So it's always likely that the symptoms, whatever they are, have a benign explanation, but what happens is that people who google their symptoms are always directed to the most dire diagnoses (which are also generally the least likely, especially in young people).

It's very possible that the best favor you can do your girl is dispel her morbid thoughts and make her realize that she is very unlikely to be ill (although once someone gets on the hypochondria treadmill, especially a female, they can be very hard to dislodge from it).

Let's hear more about these suspicious symptoms and the condition they supposedly indicate.

Post: #14

(09-16-2014 10:37 AM)ThePianoMan Wrote:  I have an interest that isn't actually sick, but is nervous that they may have some more unpleasant underlying disease. Some symptoms are pointing in that direction. How do you check in with them, show sympathy and care without seeming like a total beta bitch? Thoughts?

It takes a declining, worthless, psychopathic, piece-of-shit society to convince somebody that Sympathy, Love and Care are weak or make you seem like a "beta bitch!"

At this point the Western World cannot collapse fast enough....

Post: #15

This has been a great dialogue. Some fantastic points.

My friend is potentially dealing with a hormone situation that could result in correction by prescription meds for the rest of her life. It's not life threatening but it is terrifying that it would need a life time of treatment and monitoring.

I really value all of the opinions here and it is true that humor and just being caring without any interest in validation or something in return.

I don't think that asking these question is a commentary on how screwed up our social graces are becoming. I think refining the red pill attitude is an ongoing mission that needs to be checked to make sure we're on point and not pushing it too far.

Post: #16

There is nothing about being Red Pill or "Alpha" that rules out being a decent human being.

Post: #17

Hormone situation -- are they trying to tell her she has high TSH and that she needs to go on thyroid replacement therapy? Is that the idea?

If that's the case, are there any actual symptoms or just a high TSH measurement?

Post: #18

Don't know the absolute specifics yet.

Post: #19

It does sound like a thyroid problem.

My mom has hypothyroidism and has been taking perscription pills since she was 20.
She's 59 now and is healthy as ever.

It gets pretty expensive to maintain though.
You have to get a new blood test and a bunch of check ups every time you need to re-fill your perscription.
The cost can add up.