Post: #1

If you had time and money, and wanted to bang models (i'm talking certified 10s) on a regular basis in Argentina, how would you go about doing it?

Myself, and GringoEd are going to be in this situation in January. We're doing a mini-retirement in Argentina for at least 3 to 6 months. We've got a lot goals in non-pussy related areas, but our goal in the area of women is to bang model quality girls consistently. After all, why the fuck not!

We'll have plenty of time on our hands, and well have a decent amount of money at our disposal, although were not looking to just through throw a shit load of money at this and use money as a crutch.

Also another one of our goals is to be "fishing" rather than "hunting". If we're putting shit loads of effort into this, then its not worth it. We want to use equal parts good game and strategy to position ourselves so that model quality women are coming to us. Sounds like a big goal, but we think big

SO... How would YOU do this?

Gmanifesto, I'm looking to you in particular for some real good advice

BTW, here is a story about a guy who did just this:
http://nymag.com/guides/changeyourlife/16047/

Post: #2

Step1: Collect underwear

Step2: ?

Step3: Profit

Post: #3

I have had my good share of models and "edecanes" to be able to tell you that game as is discussed here, works only with regular girls.

For models in Argentina, if you are going to be spending enough time there, you MUST find yourselves good "friends" who are in their world (fashion or tv) specially males. A hair stylist is a good bet, I always become friends with the metromen hair stylists, they usually like me (gay) and invite me to cocktails, parties, catwalks etc. In Argentina, those friends will need to introduce you, in fact, outright tell them to introduce you to this and that girl.

Let's say you are in a Vin d'honour, it will work better if the models see you walking around with professionals of their industry and some of them will fish you, but if you go and game on them, they will go in defense mode because they are too used to being hit by men.

At the end, doing models is actually easier and more straight forward, it is just that you need the rules of the new game.

Post: #4

I don't know what you mean exactly when you say that you have money. Depending on how much you have, it can take you far in Argentina with girls, but you'd still need to have game; you can pay to get bottle service at a high end club, and you will attract girls to your table, but if you have no game you won't get more than a makeout, and they'll just be drinking ur champagne.

Post: #5

Either setup a model agency or get into running entourage game. Preferably both.

Unlike in Medellin, you are actually going to have time to get entourage game up and running. Get to know all the club owners. Get your own guest lists going and start inviting the girls. Far easier than going out and hunting and instant social value too.

A PUA friend of mine who lived there knows all the club owners.

When you know enough people, also start organising weekly parties at your place.

Post: #6

(10-22-2009 02:46 AM)PartyTime Wrote:  SO... How would YOU do this?

Gmanifesto, I'm looking to you in particular for some real good advice

BTW, here is a story about a guy who did just this:
http://nymag.com/guides/changeyourlife/16047/

You know this is one of the big projects of my life's work don't you?

I am going to write heavily on the subject in the future.

Yeah, I remember reading that article a while back.

Definitely a good tactic.

lilactag, simonh, and Lumiere make great points as always.

Truth be told, I need to do more model research specific to Argentina (a task I look forward to).

The same groundwork to any "specific" community of girls ie Playboy Models, P0rn stars, hell, Hooters Girls applies to Model girls. You need to get in their scene.

The reason why most guys don't swoop Models, is they are never at places where Models go.

And if they do meet one by chance, they are casting a javelin with a blindfold. They have no credibility.

Some inspiration:

"How I see it
Anything you wanna be you can be it
If your mind can perceive it
And your heart really believe it
Than you half way there and all you got to do is do it
And if you give it all you got there ain't really
Nothing to it"

We all look forward to your progress.

-MPM
The Guide to Getting More out of Life
http://www.thegmanifesto.com

Post: #7

You'll need MAD social proof of some form or another. I know that much. Absent that I doubt you'll be banging any model quality women.

Post: #8

(10-22-2009 12:16 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  You'll need MAD social proof of some form or another. I know that much. Absent that I doubt you'll be banging any model quality women.

So true.

That is why the guys who get Model are primarily Weesh Actors, pro Athletes, wack musicians. And heavy Walletmen. Throw in lame Male Models too.

(I wrote this on defeating the male model: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/12/bro...hroom.html )

Especially the famous models. They are typically outside of our range.

Club promoters, Restaurant owners, drug dealers, straight fashion guys, artists and party cats in their scene make up another big voting block.

The smallest group is G's with Mad Game using every tactic at our disposal, which is were we all should try to fall into.

"Regular Guy" has no shot.

-MPM
The Guide to Getting More out of Life
http://www.thegmanifesto.com

Post: #9

Very good post. I'm not sure about Argentina, but in LA, as Lumiere said, it's all about finding an "in". I had a photographer roommate, and that was magic.

I might be in Argentina around the same time. Let's go fishing

Post: #10

Why do you want to bang models?

I dont get why models are so valued when usually their only superior trait over other pretty girls is their taller height.

Post: #11

(10-22-2009 04:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Why do you want to bang models?

I dont get why models are so valued when usually their only superior trait over other pretty girls is their taller height.

Models are actually easier to hook up with than other girls, as long as you don't swoon over them like 99% of other guys.

Post: #12

I'm so happy this thread exists. End game, no?

Post: #13

Yeah the mistake most guys make with models is to act like 99% of the other guys they meet and to put them on a pedestal, fawn over them and lower their own value.

Just game them like regular girls. I picked up a model in Argentina the first time I went to Cordoba (which is where PartyTime is going I think - he already knows this story, I told him in Medellin).

I think part of the reason why she was so into me is that I just gamed her like I would any other chick and I didn't treat like she was special at all even though she is quiet famous in Cordoba (did some local tv presenting and is a singer).

Post: #14

The idea of wanting to exclusively be fucking models doesn't make much sense IMO. FOr instance, there are plenty of girls in Argentina just walking along the streets that aren't models, but could easily be on the runways once you apply some makeup and dress them up in a 3000 outfit. Modeling is kind of BS if you ask me.

Post: #15

(10-22-2009 04:51 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 04:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Why do you want to bang models?

I dont get why models are so valued when usually their only superior trait over other pretty girls is their taller height.

Models are actually easier to hook up with than other girls, as long as you don't swoon over them like 99% of other guys.

Kind of.

When it happens.

When it doesn't it can seem super hard.

But it is true, you don't treat them different at all.

- MPM
The Guide to Getting More out of Life
http://www.thegmanifesto.com

Post: #16

(10-22-2009 07:32 PM)simonh Wrote:  The idea of wanting to exclusively be fucking models doesn't make much sense IMO. FOr instance, there are plenty of girls in Argentina just walking along the streets that aren't models, but could easily be on the runways once you apply some makeup and dress them up in a 3000 outfit. Modeling is kind of BS if you ask me.

I have had "Model Girl Phases" in my life.

Now I just try to swoop fly girls no matter what they do.

Probably focus on rich girls more.

Good point though. Many civilian girls, especially in places like Argentina, Spain, France etc are just as fly as models or flyer.

Certainly shorter.

- MPM
The Guide to Getting More out of Life
http://www.thegmanifesto.com

Post: #17

I think the keywords for me are:

model-quality

and

fishing


How can we get model quality girls to consistently come to us?

I know it sounds ambitious but I'm willing to work and develop a system.

Post: #18

(10-22-2009 07:50 PM)gringoed Wrote:  How can we get model quality girls to consistently come to us?

I know it sounds ambitious but I'm willing to work and develop a system.

Hmmmmmmmmm..........I'd like to know as well.

Post: #19

(10-22-2009 07:32 PM)simonh Wrote:  there are plenty of girls in Argentina just walking along the streets that aren't models, but could easily be on the runways once you apply some makeup and dress them up in a 3000 outfit. Modeling is kind of BS if you ask me.

Can someone direct me to some pictures of this Argentinian street scene? It sounds too good to be true.

Post: #20

Avenida Santa Fe.

You will get a sore neck.

- MPM
The Guide to Getting More out of Life
http://www.thegmanifesto.com

Post: #21

(10-22-2009 09:22 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Avenida Santa Fe.

You will get a sore neck.

The only place where I felt that way about the street scene was in Rio and (to a lesser extent) Sao Paulo

Argentinian chicks are not in the same league in my opinion. Not exotic looking enough. Very white and European looking. Depends on your taste of course.

I do agree that Cordoba is way better that BA in terms of cute girls though.

Post: #22

(10-22-2009 09:27 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  I do agree that Cordoba is way better that BA in terms of cute girls though.

I didn't go to Cordoba, but I have to say I wasn't blown away with the girls in BA. I thought the women were really average. The thing is, women with Mediterranean features are my fav of all, so I thought I'd be going nuts there, but nah, I wasn't. I saw some cute girls in Mendoza though.

Brazilian women made me forget about Argentine women real quick.

Post: #23

(10-22-2009 02:46 AM)PartyTime Wrote:  well have a decent amount of money at our disposal

I have an idea.

You need to live somewhere, so why not rent a fancy house with a pool.

A friend of mine has a big mansion in California and he hooked up with some location scout types and they use his place for photo shoots and pornographic movies. He recommended his people to another friend of mine in Maui and they did some modeling crap there. I would imagine that most places charge money to have photo shoots and what not set up at their places whereas you just do it for free.

Also, everyplace I seem to go these days has some shitty in hpouse photographer for those nightclub picture websites. You could go around and tell those guys about your mansion and its availability for photo shoots.

And wow here's locationscout.com if you look under location agencies theres one in BA a few down. Maybe call them?

Aloha!

Post: #24

(10-22-2009 10:33 AM)lilactag Wrote:  For models in Argentina, if you are going to be spending enough time there, you MUST find yourselves good "friends" who are in their world (fashion or tv) specially males.

Very good advice. Makes a lot of sense. Step 1 to getting model quality girls is to be around them. For a guy with already good game, this is the biggest step. You can't get it if you are not around it.

Lilactag, Thanks for the tips. Other than hair stylists, can you give some more specific tips on who to befriend?

(10-22-2009 11:19 AM)simonh Wrote:  I don't know what you mean exactly when you say that you have money.

What I mean by this is just that we're not budget traveling. We're not exactly rich, but fortunately we're in a good enough financial position to be able to spend a few bucks to create an awesome lifestyle out there. For example, if a really high-end apartment costs $2K or $3K a month, divided by 2 people, thats not much more than rent costs in the US. If we want to be-friend the bartender, we don't have to think twice about tipping real well. Etc. In other words, we're not looking to "make it rain" and out there and trick away all our money, but we've been blessed enough to have the financial means to be able to create a nice lifestyle out there (at 1/3 the cost of the US btw)

(10-22-2009 11:29 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  Either setup a model agency or get into running entourage game.

We thought about the modeling agency thing, but I don't know. It sounds like it might be too much work. And I kinda feel sleezy about it.

Entourage game sounds much more appealing. Would love to hear specific examples if you have some in mind on how to do this.

(10-22-2009 11:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  You know this is one of the big projects of my life's work don't you?
I am going to write heavily on the subject in the future.

Awesome, Look forward to hearing about it. And we will of course post about our journey too.

(10-22-2009 11:56 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  The reason why most guys don't swoop Models, is they are never at places where Models go.

Again, awesome advice. Probably the single biggest piece of the puzzle.

(10-22-2009 12:16 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  You'll need MAD social proof of some form or another. I know that much. Absent that I doubt you'll be banging any model quality women.

This point is really big. (Given that you already have an acceptable level of game) Learning more and better game will get you nowhere. Its all about creating social proof and getting in their social circle.

I think this is the key to be able to be "fishing". Without this, it will be a lot of effort to get the occasional model quality girl.
The thought of continuously "hunting" is not at all appealing to me.

(10-22-2009 04:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Why do you want to bang models?

I dont get why models are so valued when usually their only superior trait over other pretty girls is their taller height.

Roosh, they don't have to be actual models. I'm looking for "model-quality." I want to be banging 10's consistently. I would much prefer a model-quality girl that is NOT a model because her personality will probably be better. Im ok with short model quality girls, as long as they are truly model quality.

(10-22-2009 04:51 PM)kerouac Wrote:  Models are actually easier to hook up with than other girls

So true. They are used to guys acting really weird around them, so just being a cool guy that doesn't treat them any differently because of their looks goes a (very) long way.

(10-22-2009 07:32 PM)simonh Wrote:  The idea of wanting to exclusively be fucking models doesn't make much sense IMO.

"Model Quality" they dont have to be actual models.

(10-22-2009 07:50 PM)gringoed Wrote:  I think the keywords for me are:

model-quality
and
fishing

How can we get model quality girls to consistently come to us?

Exactly. I guess our question is really a lifestyle question. We're looking to build a really amazing lifestyle on our trip. And getting consistent "model quality" girls WITHOUT continuously hunting is part of that.

Post: #25

Guys, some inspiration:












All from Argentina.