Post: #26

I always call lizards because my accent is my unique feature

Post: #27

I call because everyone else texts.

If she does not answer, I will call another she.

She is welcome to call me back.

If she does not, then she will be forgotten, because there are plenty of shes for Me.

Post: #28

Do you guys actually enjoy the texting?

Post: #29

(01-26-2015 04:30 PM)Blobert Wrote:  Do you guys actually enjoy the texting?

Yeah some of it is actually great, some of it is actually mundane and boring.

Calling is way more fun, but some girls view it as desperate and creepy unfortunately.

The upside is once you meet then bang, they're way more susceptible to calling and you don't have do maintenance texting as much.

The girls that know me, know I'm very busy and hardly text throughout the day.

Post: #30

(01-26-2015 04:36 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Calling is way more fun, but some girls view it as desperate and creepy unfortunately.

Those are girls I don't want to talk to.

Where I'm at, girls who don't want to talk on the phone, are usually girls who already have dudes, and text is their only way to communicate with you in a discreet manner.

You also gotta understand that the girls we're dealing with don't want to connect; conversations lend themselves towards connections because people can begin to relate and find common ground, you're not doing that in text messages that basically outline when you're going to meet up to fuck again.

That's fine with me, I mean, look they are the ones who are going to end up mentally and emotionally abused, we just take this shit as part of the conditions of the playing field, shit, if it's raining, you don't call the game off, you just play harder..

Post: #31

I almost always use text for first contact and most contact beyond that also but have found calling to be a good tool to build comfort if you're getting flakey vibes or short, detached texts. If it seems like you're losing a girl you want might as well call and go big or go home. Sometimes will send a text first "Driving, call you?" but not always. If they have just texted you they can't really not pick up, when they do you can run game without their distraction. They usually sound a little surprised when they pick up a call after they've texted without any pre-notification but I haven't gotten any off vibes beyond that from it.

I call more after a bang if I want to keep the girl around, but calling on a regular basis is an LTR thing and I haven't made a habit of it since I escaped my last one. I also try to split up calls with texts and rarely call more than once in a week. The girls who have tried to lock me down are all about calling over texts.

Post: #32

Here's the thing:

Pretty much the planet has moved towards text-heavy communications. This does not surprise me in the least. This is just a natural evolution of bulletin boards, IRC, and instant messenger apps.

The convenience and the ability to communicate near real-time in a crowded/noisy environment is unparalleled along with the ability to send an evocative picture near real-time.

Calling and voice communication still has it's place, certainly. Have we become too texting focused? Probably, but texting is here to stay. I try to put myself in other people's shoes when they don't answer my call.

Maybe they are driving without a headset, maybe they are at work (like I often am) and can't answer, or maybe they just aren't in a place where it's quiet enough to have a conversation.

No big deal, as we used to hear voicemail messages hours and sometimes days after they were left and nobody placing a phone call expected the other side to pick up.

I prefer to call people when I want to "catch up" and text when it comes to logistics, group conversations, and keeping in touch without spending hours on the phone.

Voice to text and swipe as well as more full featured messaging apps that can be used on a tablet or on a desktop (with emulation) have greatly increased the usefulness of texting.

For anything more involved, especially with sorting out multiple topics, calling still beats it and I use it whenever it makes the most sense.

I am grateful that my girlfriend despite being young was raised with proper use of the phone so we have good phone calls supplemented by texts (especially during times we're both busy).

Post: #33

I call to restart a dry lead. If they don't pick up or answer back via phone or text, next.

More girls will answer than you'd guess. Probably because no one calls anymore.

Post: #34

Not really unless they're already in the bag. I recently met this chick who called me after about 20 texts which surprised me. So I picked up in respect of her forwardness. She was a bit of a nutcase, but she actually said;"I hate all this texting b.s., I've got no time for that crap."

Post: #35

Texting is the worst and most dumbed down form on of communication ever created! No wonder most of the men on this form get flaky ass bitches because you are not alpha enough to make them call you and you don't call women either. I tell bitches straight up to call me and don't text me a damn thing because it opens the Pandora Box for dumbed down communication. As a busy 'man' I got more to do with my day then send wack messages back and forth to anyone when I can be making money and handling business.

You can only get to know someone by 'real' communication period! Fuck Texting... My piece is done!

Post: #36

I havent called in a long time, maybe 3 years. I did it more when I was beta, trying to make a connection. Always went to voicemail.

Assuming it will go to voicemail 100% of the time, IMO you should only call if you can leave sick VMs. If you are in sales, or have great energy or know how to leave a VM that leaves the recipient wanting more - you should - otherwise just focus on improving your text game.

The upsides to leaving VMs after getting the digits are you can sometimes recreate the experience you initially had so she can remember who you are. Or you can drop value and leave her wanting more. e.g. 'hey impromptly called you since I had a +1 to laker floor seats...needed to know now. No worries - I'll find someone else

My tone and energy is terrible on VMs so I never do it, but if you got a good voice and can drop some barry white flavour you should.

(01-25-2015 10:39 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  On topic - smoking hot girl at the gym has been eye fucking me for weeks. I'm chatting her up, I end up with the number, and I call her (I'm older, this is the way I've always done things for first contact). Her attitude went from enthusiastic to disappointed and cold. Is calling straight up the kiss of death nowadays? An actual dealbreaking faux pax?

Hot girls dont expect being 'put on the spot', yes thats what they consider having an adult conversation. Her attitude must have changed because hot girls tend to go bitchy cold when faced with unfamiliar situations. My opinion would be to regenerate via text to give her time to process in her mind. So - in summary - not a deal breaker but you'll prob have to bring the pain over text. Maybe tease her about her phone game or something....

Post: #37

My older brother put it like this:
"Stop beating around the fucking bush and call her. You young guys are all the same, afraid to make a fucking phone call."

Ever since he said that, I really took that advice to heart and started calling girls I want to bang.

I'm a lot younger then a lot of you gentlemen, and because I despise text, if I'm trying to get laid I always call. You would be surprised at how many girls do not know how interact over a fucking phone call, so the ball is usually always in your court. So when you call them, they're usually thrown off, and because not many men actually talk over the phone, you stand out in her mind as that guy who is not afraid to converse like a human being.

Now that I think about it, I've banged almost every girl I phone called shortly after meeting vs. text.

ALL ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS BOYS.

Post: #38

(01-26-2015 04:30 PM)Blobert Wrote:  Do you guys actually enjoy the texting?

I enjoy communicating with a girl.

You'll bang more chicks if you like interacting with them.

WIA

Post: #39

Texting is quick and requires and shows minimal investment on my behalf (hers too, which is the potential downside). Everyone texts these days - whether it's regular SMS or increasingly more common, Viber/WeChat/Line/whatever - even people in their mid to late 30s (I'm 38), and while there are some women I sometimes call and who call me, it's after we've gotten to know each other and not initially.
A handful of times the last year I've tried initiating contact by calling. Two girls didn't pick up but responded with hesitant texts a few minutes later. One picked up and sounded slightly confused and ill at ease with the whole voice communication thing. And one was as easy to talk to as most people used to be on the phone a decade or two ago.

The frequent sense of awkwardness on the other end aside, I feel less needy if I just behave like a regular person of this decade and send a quick text (with proper spelling and grammar - I don't think I will ever see any reason to deliberately try to make myself look like an uneducated moron to forcibly look "less invested", which eg. Heartiste frequently seems to recommend. With word prediction on smart phones these days it probably takes longer to misspell words than write properly anyway).

Anyway, I consider text game one of my strengths, so while I lately have cut back considerably on the frequent and long winded back and forth banter, I still consider texting a useful tool for building attraction and/or comfort. Or just using it for quick and simple logistics.

Post: #40

I don't even call my wife anymore. We IM each other on QQ all day long. Even when I am in the house and upstairs in my man-zone. :/

Is this beta?

When I met her, we only did IM. Later I would make her video chat with me at least 2 times a week. After that, I stopped caring for some reason.

Post: #41

Girls under 25 do not know how to have phone conversations with men. I stick to texting until I know the girl for some time.

When I think back to high school and college, phone conversations were good opportunities to strengthen the connection and chemistry. Times have changed. Calling a girl too early will likely result in a voicemail or will signal neediness.

Post: #42

(01-27-2015 10:48 AM)Dantes Wrote:  Girls under 25 do not know how to have phone conversations with men. I stick to texting until I know the girl for some time.

The only Chinese girls I dated that I would talk to on the phone were 26-33. The rest just wanted to IM all the time. I'm flexible and I never cared much about it as long as she did not piss me off in some way.

Post: #43

I stopped texting much and now I mainly call.

I think the trend is reversing there are just too many suckas texting girls now. Send a few text, find out if she's at home and call.

This is for online girls. Humanizes you so you're not just another number. These girls don't even add save number so you might as well leave an impression.

Post: #44

(01-27-2015 10:22 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:30 PM)Blobert Wrote:  Do you guys actually enjoy the texting?

I enjoy communicating with a girl.

You'll bang more chicks if you like interacting with them.

WIA

Well, that's kinda what I would say as well... Talking with a girl is fun. Texting is really dry and impersonal in comparison.

Post: #45

I generally run straight up text game to schedule a meet with a girl.

In special situations, such as she is out of town for a couple weeks and I want to keep the fire burning, I'll call her a couple times so that she can hear the sound of my voice.

There's something more real about a voice conversation and it allows me to better gauge their buying temperature.

That being said, I'm the sort of guy who can make girls laugh over the phone without using any preplanned jokes. I wouldn't be able to get that sort of emotional response via text, so calling girls can be a real advantage, depending on the situation.

However, if the girl is digging me and open to meeting, I'll just stick to texting and save the emotional development and comfort building for when we are together.

Post: #46

(01-27-2015 07:45 PM)Blobert Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 10:22 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 04:30 PM)Blobert Wrote:  Do you guys actually enjoy the texting?

I enjoy communicating with a girl.

You'll bang more chicks if you like interacting with them.

WIA

Well, that's kinda what I would say as well... Talking with a girl is fun. Texting is really dry and impersonal in comparison.

Doesn't have to be at all if both you and her are just somewhat creative with the written word and have a sense of humour (but obviously some girls, and guys, are rather challenged in either or both those departments).
Hell, I've managed to have relatively amusing text conversations - both before and after face to face meetings - with Thai girls with very basic English.

But it doesn't even have to be actual conversations. Even one or two quickly exchanged lines can potentially be entertaining and personal.

Post: #47

(01-27-2015 10:13 AM)RouteBackwards Wrote:  My older brother put it like this:
"Stop beating around the fucking bush and call her. You young guys are all the same, afraid to make a fucking phone call."

Ever since he said that, I really took that advice to heart and started calling girls I want to bang.

I'm a lot younger then a lot of you gentlemen, and because I despise text, if I'm trying to get laid I always call. You would be surprised at how many girls do not know how interact over a fucking phone call, so the ball is usually always in your court. So when you call them, they're usually thrown off, and because not many men actually talk over the phone, you stand out in her mind as that guy who is not afraid to converse like a human being.

Now that I think about it, I've banged almost every girl I phone called shortly after meeting vs. text.

ALL ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS BOYS.

Exactly what I'm talking about my man! Be a MAN and call and not text like a boy.

Post: #48

(01-28-2015 06:42 PM)Playboy_Extraordinare Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 10:13 AM)RouteBackwards Wrote:  My older brother put it like this:
"Stop beating around the fucking bush and call her. You young guys are all the same, afraid to make a fucking phone call."

Ever since he said that, I really took that advice to heart and started calling girls I want to bang.

I'm a lot younger then a lot of you gentlemen, and because I despise text, if I'm trying to get laid I always call. You would be surprised at how many girls do not know how interact over a fucking phone call, so the ball is usually always in your court. So when you call them, they're usually thrown off, and because not many men actually talk over the phone, you stand out in her mind as that guy who is not afraid to converse like a human being.

Now that I think about it, I've banged almost every girl I phone called shortly after meeting vs. text.

ALL ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS BOYS.

Exactly what I'm talking about my man! Be a MAN and call and not text like a boy.

I'm not denying that calling can work perfectly well, maybe even better than texting in some cases - particularly for people who aren't or don't like their game to be of the witty or otherwise immediately attention catching type. But as far as I'm concerned your statement about the MANliness of calling (unless you're gaming women over 50, but hell, even my 65 year old mother is using Viber and WeChat on her iPhone) is here in 2015 roughly the equivalent of saying "be a man and mail a handwritten letter, don't use that wimpy newfangled electronic mail thing".

Post: #49

I agree with MikeS. As the OP, I asked the question because I used to like to call. I was nervous calling, but, as in cold approaching, I embraced the nervousness and called anyway. And, more importantly, women would actually pick-up.

These days if you call, 98% she won't pick up when you call. <15% she'll call you back. Either she won't respond or she'll text you, "saw your missed call. what's up?" So you have to ping twice, including the first call, and usually a text. That is extra time and could come off as needy.

Post: #50

Yeah, the whole "you're too afraid to call" line is pretty bullshit. It's simply because girls will tend to think you're needy if you call without texting first the vast majority of the time (maybe it's different elsewhere but that seems to be the case here in NYC).

I vastly prefer calling because it is far more efficient and I'm better on the phone than on text (and better in person than on the phone). I have a naturally dominant frame and tend to be the center of gravity in my social interactions, but texting just throws this off for some reason, not to mention that I really hate the waiting (right now I'm texting two girls and the messages are spread a day apart).