Post: #1

I've noticed this a few times now, particularly with older (and more left-wing) women, that they express hatred for the martial arts bordering on the vitriolic.

I was watching the UFC at my aunts house and she loudly expressed her disgust and said she didn't want it playing there. Another time I was talking about Muay Thai at a dinner party, describing some fights I had seen in Thailand. Two older women there became noticeably uncomfortable, expressed their disapproval and tried to change the subject.

I know first-hand that many women absolutely love watching fighting, they lap it up greedily and scream louder than most men in the crowd. I'm convinced there is some primal pull that women have where they love watching competition to see who will be the winner, it gets them horny.

So why are these women getting so uncomfortable about it? Here's my theory (ironically coming from an MMA perspective).

In MMA the advantage goes to the opponent who can keep the conflict in an area where he is more adept than his opponent. For example, an expert grappler would want to keep the fight on the ground while fighting an expert striker who has poor ground game.

In the social realm women have a natural advantage through words and controlling the narrative due to their ability to flip logic on its head and rationalize things very quickly. In the physical realm men have the advantage through superior hand-eye coordination, better logic and planning and brute physical strength.

The natural balance of power between men and women was traditionally maintained with men's physical power on one side and women's power of manipulation and logic-trapping on the other. In modern society men have been completely neutered of their physical power, making the battlefield lopsided in favour of the feminine.

Fighting makes these women subconsciously recoil because it demonstrates an area of conflict that they know they are outclassed in. By suppressing and demonizing physical conflict they are more effectively able to keep the social power struggle in the realm of words and their narrative, i.e. where they have the upper hand. Glorification of martial arts represents physical dominance in it's purest form, I think that's why it makes these women uncomfortable.

Interested to hear RVF's thoughts on this.

Post: #2

I think that older women just aren´t attracted by this anymore. They don´t need heroes, fighters or so on, they rather seek for stability and safety. And also they probably see it more from mother´s perspective.
While the younger ones simly get their panties wet. It´s the brightest form of natural selection. They can say to you how they hate it and also say it to themself and they can be afraid of you, but - because of nature - they love it whether they know it or don´t.

Being a fighter is the access to pretty girls. Almost everyone who is in this for longer time and has the fighter look has pretty girl.

Post: #3

I suspect it's a combination of having no ties to the fighters or the sport coupled with generic feminist indoctrination regarding "toxic masculintity".

1) The men are not paying attention to them.
2) It gives them the sense that all the men in their lives are somehow shall we say lacking.
3) They are faced with the fact that men control the lowest common denominator of all interaction.
4) They must further grapple with the fact that the men in their life are incapable of such "interaction".

In other words, it speaks to their lizard brain in as much to say "bitch, ignore violence all you want but it's a real thing, and when it comes down to it your feminism isn't worth shit and you got no tribe worth a damn."

Post: #4

I'd rather chicks be turned off by sports and MMA, making food in the kitchen and only entering the TV area when needed instead of hogging a seat on the couch and pretending to be into sports/MMA.

Post: #5

I don't think it matters whether she likes it or dislikes it. That's her thing. What does matter is if she chastises or tries to say you are in the wrong because YOU like it.

That doesn't sound like anybody I'd want to spend my time with.

Post: #6

They're not fertile anymore. Young ones like seeing brutes in their prime.

Post: #7

(03-19-2017 04:32 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  I'd rather chicks be turned off by sports and MMA, making food in the kitchen and only entering the TV area when needed instead of hogging a seat on the couch and pretending to be into sports/MMA.

I sort of like a girl that loves college football.

Post: #8

(03-19-2017 06:50 PM)Steelex Wrote:  I don't think it matters whether she likes it or dislikes it. That's her thing. What does matter is if she chastises or tries to say you are in the wrong because YOU like it.

That doesn't sound like anybody I'd want to spend my time with.

This isn't coming from young girls I'm seeing. I actually had a girlfriend before that watched MMA with me and decided that she liked it because I liked it. Good girls are quite malleable and will be interested in things just to follow your lead.

It's not really causing any issue for me. I'm just curious to why some people (some men too) recoil so strongly from martial arts and MMA in particular, and how that behaviour can be fit into a red pill understanding of female psychology.

Post: #9

I've watched MMA with a bunch of girls. They mostly didn't have a hard negative reaction, they just found it a) brutal and b) boring - because they didn't understand it.

I'm very passionate about MMA so when I'd watch with them, I'd break down positions, strategies, movement, footwork, and so on. All of a sudden they found it interesting, because now they could actually (being to) comprehend what the fighters were doing.

When you remove the ignorance of the sport, most people are fascinated by it because the combination of brutality, unpredictability and complex patterns is entertaining.

Post: #10

The reason some people don't like MMA is because they're fucking stupid and have no taste.

Post: #11

(03-20-2017 09:17 AM)Ringo Wrote:  they just found it a) brutal and b) boring - because they didn't understand it.

This. It's no more possible for them to understand the fight and be mentally engaged by it, than it is for use to understand "The Bold and the Beautiful" and be mentally engaged by it.

So basically it's just because they're not men. Sexual dimorphism and all. No reason to expect women to be interested in or even comfortable about dudes smashing each other's faces to a bloody pulp.