Post: #1

The new law, which was enacted on October 1, will allow practically anyone connected to, including a random thot you're banging, complain to the police and say you're "dangerous". The police will then be able to legally confiscate your guns.

The law: http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMai...&id=HB1302

Summary:

Quote:#1 What is the ‘red flag’ law?
Maryland Governor Larry Hogan signed a bill for extreme risk protective orders into law.

It has become known as the red flag law which allows a judge to temporarily take someone’s guns away if they are found to be a risk to themselves or others.

#2 How does it work?
A petition must be filed in court to explain the potential dangers.

A judge will need specific reasons why the person in question might harm themselves or someone else.

The petition also must include things, such as, how many guns the person has and where the weapons are.

If approved, a judge has the authority to take someone’s guns away within hours when someone sounds the alarm.

The details would be sorted out in court within a couple of weeks.

#3 Who can file a petition?
There are only a handful of people allowed to do file petitions under the new law.

Law enforcement
Health professional
Spouse or family member
Someone the person is dating or has children with
Current or former legal guardian

#4 What if someone is lying?
The red flag law covers this particular issue.

If a petitioner is found to be making false claims or embellishing the truth, they could face perjury charges and jail time. [Yeah, right.]

“A petition must also… be signed and sworn to by the petitioner under penalty of perjury,” the law reads.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local...-598387522

One month after the law was passed, they executed a man who refused to give up his gun.

Quote:Two Anne Arundel County police officers serving one of Maryland’s new “red flag” protective orders to remove guns from a house killed a Ferndale man after he refused to give up his gun and a struggle ensued early Monday morning, police said.

The subject of the protective order, Gary J. Willis, 60, answered his door in the 100 block of Linwood Ave. at 5:17 a.m. with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County police said. He initially put the gun down next to the door, but “became irate” when officers began to serve him with the order, opened the door and picked up the gun again, police said.

“A fight ensued over the gun,” said Sgt. Jacklyn Davis, a police spokeswoman.

One of the officers struggled to take the gun from Willis, and during the struggle the gun fired but did not strike anyone, police said. At that point, the other officer fatally shot Willis, police said.

Neither officer was injured, police said, and neither of their names was released.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla...story.html

They're not going to come for your guns all at once. Instead, they will knock on your door when you're alone and unprepared, just like how Stalin's NKVD would come in the dead of night to send you off to the gulags.

The only way to stop this is to live in a tight-knit community with a "neighborhood police watch" program and immediately show up at the house of any neighbor who has been targeted for gun confiscation via WhatsApp-like text message groups.

Post: #2

Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

Post: #3

(11-07-2018 10:46 AM)andy Wrote:  Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

I can't hide these guns baby

Post: #4

(11-07-2018 10:46 AM)andy Wrote:  Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

As someone living in a cuck state of a cuck nation on guns, no, it's not "simple".

Gun culture goes away because cucks choose to fly under the radar and when the government moves to legislate further against gun ownership they cite the fact that "it's no longer a part of our culture".

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Post: #5

It’s nothing new. A standard restraining order against you does the same thing. All a bitch has to do is go to the police and say she is scared and they roll out the red carpet and have someone help her fill out all the forms.

3 days later you have to appear before a judge and explain what happened. Once the tears come out you’re screwed.

If I had any guns they would have taken them away.

I should know. It happened to me. After that you’re looked at like a degenerate in family court. Do yourself a favor and keep a lawyer on retainer to handle things like this.

Post: #6

(11-07-2018 10:46 AM)andy Wrote:  Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

The poor bastards in Russia didn't say anything when they went door to door looking for supposed criminals or illegal items pre-WW2.

This looks and smells exactly like something a communist would do.

Post: #7

Communist party hassling you? Simple, tell them you're a card carrying member. Actually, tell them you're fanatically loyal and an overwhelming believer in the party. Haha, surely they won't suspect overly loyal members and send them to gulag hahahaha. Can't be too loyal or critical now can you comrade? You have to be just the right amount of supportive or gulag 4 u.

What's next? They're going after straight men and putting them in camps for being a threat to wymyn? Simple, tell them you're gay.

Post: #8

Any chance this gets overturned by Supreme Court?

Post: #9

(11-07-2018 10:24 AM)Roosh Wrote:  The only way to stop this is to live in a tight-knit community with a "neighborhood police watch" program and immediately show up at the house of any neighbor who has been targeted for gun confiscation via WhatsApp-like text message groups.

Seems like the end result of this would be creating white no-go zones. Which certainly works, the reason police are such cowards in Europe when dealing with muslims is because a handful of cops is easily taken out by a mob and they can't afford to do full scale swat operations every time they want to give someone a ticket for jaywalking.

Problem obviously is now you don't have any of the useful police coverage in the area, since actual criminals will also try to use the vigilantes to take out the police coming after them. You could try to vet each person that paticipates in the system, but then you aren't covering the whole area, are easily infiltrated, and the authorities are going to just pick off the troublemakers like they did in waco or ruby ridge.

Post: #10

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Post: #11

The gov't of Maryland sounds dangerous. Please take their guns away.

Post: #12

With a GOP led Senate & a conservative leaning SCOTUS.
Doubtful the 2nd Amendment will be going anywhere any time soon.

These smaller & indirect gun control methods are likely to increase as a result.

Post: #13

So much for having a Republican governor in a blue state.

Post: #14

(11-07-2018 01:23 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Any chance this gets overturned by Supreme Court?

I think states in the USA have their own laws...

Post: #15

Quote:If a petitioner is found to be making false claims or embellishing the truth, they could face perjury charges and jail time

That won't happen. Snitches don't get prosecuted.

Post: #16

(11-08-2018 04:51 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 01:23 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Any chance this gets overturned by Supreme Court?

I think states in the USA have their own laws...

...that are subordinate to the US Constitution. It is the reason why the Southern States don't have Slavery any more, when they entered the union once again post civil war, the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments were already part of the constitution. In a similar vein, federal law us supposed to have more power than State laws. That is the reason why people cant smoke weed in places like Denver, without being subject to arrest from one of the many different Federal LEO's. Whether that is practical or not, is another conversation. Having said that, Federal and State Governments have frequently butted heads throughout the history of the republic.

In general, you are right, what is passed in Maryland does not affect what happens in other states, outside of the fact that states take ideas from other states. I am not worried about this two states away in the right direction. Of course I am thankful that this is not a federal law, though I am sure that it is part of the march for the Dems.

As far as whether this can be overturned in the supreme court, maybe. Years from now and millions of dollars later.

Post: #17

(11-07-2018 11:08 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 10:46 AM)andy Wrote:  Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

I can't hide these guns baby

That looks like Synthol arms.

Post: #18

(11-07-2018 11:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 10:46 AM)andy Wrote:  Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

The poor bastards in Russia didn't say anything when they went door to door looking for supposed criminals or illegal items pre-WW2.

This looks and smells exactly like something a communist would do.

Having grown up in NE Illinois, where the national past-time is to literally hate guns, you learn who rules over you and the community is very much closeted. I think there is a difference between bringing up the fact that you are a gun owner with the general normie public at large, vs. the women you're dating/bedding.

Post: #19

(11-08-2018 04:51 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 01:23 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Any chance this gets overturned by Supreme Court?

I think states in the USA have their own laws...

But those laws can be declared unconstitutional and revoked. If a state is not allowed to have its own law on gay marriage, how can it be allowed to have one on gun rights?

Post: #20

That video made me nauseous even before the surgery started.

Post: #21

(11-08-2018 11:20 PM)andy Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 11:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 10:46 AM)andy Wrote:  Simple: don't advertise that you own guns

The poor bastards in Russia didn't say anything when they went door to door looking for supposed criminals or illegal items pre-WW2.

This looks and smells exactly like something a communist would do.

Having grown up in NE Illinois, where the national past-time is to literally hate guns, you learn who rules over you and the community is very much closeted. I think there is a difference between bringing up the fact that you are a gun owner with the general normie public at large, vs. the women you're dating/bedding.

And women dont come and go do they? To send people off to reeducation camps all you needed was a neighbour, family member, associate or enemy to tell the authorities and off you went.

Post: #22

148 guns were seized in the first 3 months of the law:

Quote:Maryland courts have seized guns from 148 people in the three months since the state enacted a law designed to take weapons from people who are danger to themselves or others.

Four of the gun owners posed “significant threats” to schools, an official told state lawmakers Tuesday.

Montgomery County Sheriff Darren M. Popkin (D), who has helped train police officers across the state about the “red-flag” law, said he could not provide details about the gun seizures — including those that could have led to school shootings — because of a confidentiality rule.

But, Popkin told the House Judiciary Committee, “these orders . . . are saving lives.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-...03314fc0d7

Post: #23

(01-16-2019 04:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  148 guns were seized in the first 3 months of the law:

Quote:Maryland courts have seized guns from 148 people in the three months since the state enacted a law designed to take weapons from people who are danger to themselves or others.

Four of the gun owners posed “significant threats” to schools, an official told state lawmakers Tuesday.

Montgomery County Sheriff Darren M. Popkin (D), who has helped train police officers across the state about the “red-flag” law, said he could not provide details about the gun seizures — including those that could have led to school shootings — because of a confidentiality rule.

But, Popkin told the House Judiciary Committee, “these orders . . . are saving lives.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-...03314fc0d7

Great. And we just had more states passing that asinine "no assault rifle sales to people under 21" trend that started after parkland.

2nd Amendment getting a real beating under Trump. Every little bit is just another chip away at the block we're supposed to be "conserving".

I mean, this law is insane anyway. NKVD level shit like Roosh said in the OP.

Post: #24

In my opinion the most fundamental flaw with the Constitution of the US and more importantly the Bill Of Rights is that it provides no penalties for subverting it or attempting to skirt around its protections.

You have the Federal Government itself, then the dozens of states and beyond them the countless districts, councils and municipalities, and every subversive or crooked governing body has functionally little to no penalty for simply burying the Constitution in an avalanche of petty, tyrannical laws.

We're going to ban this type of gun.

It gets struck down a year later at massive expense to the taxpayer and the defendant?

Who gives a fuck? We'll shift a comma in the legislation and try again tomorrow.

There should be a year long mandatory minimum jail sentence for any person of office including but not limited to judges, police officers, legislators or prosecutors who are inevitably found to be in breach of the Bill of Rights or the Constitution more broadly.

Absent any fear of repercussion for acts of tyranny large and small the abuses are left to mount up and fester until the only solution is a total rebellion and a bloody reset to the old order, with much suffering prior and during. Worse, by the time people move against the tyrants it could be too late.

Post: #25

This is why I'm not a fan of William Barr; he supports these red flag laws.

https://www.gunowners.org/goa-statement-william-barr.htm

Called my Senators' offices last week to urge them to oppose his nomination. Mike Lee has a competent individual with a pulse take your comment, even asking clarifying questions. Romney has you leave a message.

Fuck you, Mittens. Fuck you so much.