Post: #1

As a young man, it is easy and natural to be surrounded by young women.

However, I anticipate that this will change as I get older and unless I make a proactive effort now to optimize my lifestyle, my social circle will consist of my similar aged friends and their ageing, fattening, nagging spouses or career women in a similar age bracket.

I prefer being surrounded by young, beautiful women for two reasons:

a) to have the option of sleeping with them
b) I just generally feel happier and have more vitality and more of a lust for life (maybe due to higher testosterone?).

I also anticipate being married or in an LTR so would like to be more subtle with my intentions.

If one day, I am a regular older man just start hanging out with a load of young girls, that would come across as quite sleazy and upsetting to any spouse whereas if I've had a lifestyle that accommodates this since being a young man myself, it's just normal.

Essentially, I want to get older whilst the girls stay the same age.





Here are some possible solutions that I have thought up to start the discussion but I'd like to hear some in depth thoughts from some older members who have achieved this (Montrose springs to mind), older members who didn't acheive this on what they would have done differently as well as younger members with the same aim.

Possible ideas:

- Hiring young women to work for you
- Lecturing/working at a University
- Working in the modelling industry
- Working as a recruiter for jobs young girls typically do (waitressing, shop work etc... stripping, porn if you want to take it to the next level)
- Creating a company that's target audience is young women (eg. clothing, makeup, beauty pills) then using Instagram girls to promote it
- Being a photographer/video director
- Mentoring young men and joining their social circle of young women
- Owning a nightclub

There are many more much obvious options for a single man that have been discussed in depth on this forum but I'd specifically like to keep this thread for married men who have a reputation to keep.

Post: #2

Your ideas are good. Some of them, the ones which put you in a position of power:

Owning a nightclub is surely a good setup. Uni prof too - although these two surely require entierely different qualities and talents.

I am not sure if "working in the modelling industry" is the right approach, given the typical male stereotype there. Mentoring young men - if you would have mentored the 20-something Rushmore back in the days, I would not have given you access to my (at that time considerably small) harem. Same goes for being a recruiter (unless you are a partner or VP at Heidrick & Struggles), or "hiring young women to work for you", does that include your cleaning lady at home? Your secretary?

Given the recent #metoo craze, all these could bring you in a difficult situation.

Don't forget that you also need to be attractive in the eyes of these younger girls. Physically, but also mentally. The 40-something who is not in tune with the Zeitgeist? Forget it. Why would a tight 21 year old sleep with a Al Bunny guy, dadbod and bad shoes?

Post: #3

Personally (married 50 years old) I meet young women on dating apps, and the ones I don’t bang sometimes ask me to coach them, and they become friends. Sometimes they introduce me to their friends. However, this method may not be acceptable to everyone because even though you’re not fucking them you’re still meeting them on Tinder.

Other ideas:
- I have taken language classes and the other students are 100% young women.
- same idea if you join art classes in a local museum or art institute
- I know a guy who is a recruiter in the fashion / retail industry. 90% of his hires are young women. I’m sure he bangs at least a few of them.
- working in the fashion / retail industry - you have only female (and a few gay) colleagues. Pussy paradise.

And by the way, when you’re young, you think that being around women you don’t fuck is being a beta orbiter and is BAD. However when you’re old and in an abundance mindset, you realize that real life may well be being around impressionable young women, and not having to fuck them. Few would admit this.

Post: #4

(12-24-2018 04:48 AM)Montrose Wrote:  and the ones I don’t bang sometimes ask me to coach them,

What kind of coach?

I would think owning a nightclub is the best choice. I have friends who have told me stories about Victor Drai (old nightclub owner in Las Vegas) who pretty much has new hot chicks all the time.

Then you'll have status in that environment that will outcompete pretty much all the younger guys. I remember seeing this older guy in this exclusive nightclub in the Mediterranean who was old, had long hair and slightly fat but he had a table there with 5 something smoking hot girls and was making out with one. Few years later I learned about Maurizio Zanfanti and I believe it was him. It's not too uncommon to see older men with some kind of sugar daddy type of relationship with girls there.

Post: #5

Well, that is the dream, OP.

Post: #6

(12-24-2018 05:56 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(12-24-2018 04:48 AM)Montrose Wrote:  and the ones I don’t bang sometimes ask me to coach them,

What kind of coach?

Relationships and career

Post: #7

Start making female children...

Post: #8

Become a tenured professor in the grievance studies.
Most of the women will be young, angry and fat, but it will still get your name around campus and in sorority circles

Post: #9

A friend of mine is a business owner with ~100 people working under him. A lot of young women. He doesn't partake, because they gossip and it would ruin the office environment and potentially damage his reputation. The only time he did - a drunken night out which he later came to regret, although he didn't do anything wrong - caused an awkward situation and the girl eventually asked to be let go.

Teaching at a university poses similar risks. Word quickly gets out. When it comes to teaching, I think you could get away with a lot if you worked on a place with a high rotation rate, such as short language courses or preparatory courses for an admission process.

Quote:- Working in the modelling industry
- Working as a recruiter for jobs young girls typically do (waitressing, shop work etc... stripping, porn if you want to take it to the next level)
- Creating a company that's target audience is young women (eg. clothing, makeup, beauty pills) then using Instagram girls to promote it
- Being a photographer/video director
- Mentoring young men and joining their social circle of young women
- Owning a nightclub

These are ideal. I'd also add owning a coffee shop or a bar, or any business that caters to young women (although nothing beats night club).

Post: #10

I dont know if it is what the OP asked for, but "being successful at what you do" never comes out of fashion. So, the night club owner on the brink of insolvency wouldn't cut it.

Post: #11

(12-24-2018 06:33 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  Start making female children...

Certainly an under-explored niche

   

Post: #12

College professor
Seeking arrangement
Photographer
Work in entertainment (modeling agency, talent agency)

Edit seems these are already mentioned

Post: #13

And I forgot the whole SJW movement in U.S. liberal arts colleges.

As a lecturer at a European business school, e.g. Said, IMD, INSEAD, LBS....things might be different.

Post: #14

Your ideas are great OP, Basically be a man of many hobbies. If your game is on point and you come off as charming instead of that Creepy old man then you'll be the joy of the group. My dad works that way. You have to have VERY STRONG frame, however.

Post: #15

Pilot for one of the Middle Eastern airlines (Emirates, etc) that can still hire based on looks.

Post: #16

Be a regular at any bar/club/hobby/charity circles, [arty, etc] where they attend. I've been invited by random hot chicks to semi-formal and formal events with them because I'm dressed better than all the other guys they know. [No, I didn't pay for their ticket]

Post: #17

(12-24-2018 02:41 AM)the-dream Wrote:  Working in the modelling industry

Pay is shit with little advancement although I'd 100% go into fashion, it's also low pay and sometimes pay in kind as in, you get paid 5.000€ in LVMH vouchers but you don't get paid a cent due to the voucher not actually being worth 5k, the product you pick costs significantly less for them to produce but it's an image thing.

Post: #18

Move to the beach.

I had a 78 year old friend who recently passed away. He bought a place on Miami Beach. Every day he would go out the the beach with his fishing pole. When a young woman walked by he would start doing push-ups in the sand and look up to say hello when they were walking past him.

He failed hundreds of times but one Day a 30 year old El Salvadoran woman walked by and it worked. He had a kid with her when he was 66.

May he Rest In Peace.

Post: #19

Working in the nightlife industry just to be around women is a bad idea. Work in that sector to make money, the pussy will always follow.

Post: #20

Maybe its a bit early to think about this problem, TE - so many variables and future scenarios.

In general, young women seem to have certain expectations about how a middle-aged man should be like: Successful, not insecure, have his shit in order, financially stable, some nest egg, no baggage.

If you work towards that, you will be fine. No student in the world wants to shag a middle aged balding out of shape twice divorced man who has to live with his mother, because alimonies are strangling him, nightclub owner or not.

Post: #21

Don't act your age. If you're 47 or 52 and you genuinely feel more or less as you did when you were 35, then act like you're 35. Feeling younger than you are is the easy bit. Acting like it without feeling bad is something you need to learn to do without hangups. I don't think anyone really thinks there's anything weird about a 50s guy acting like he's in his 30s. But a 50s guy trying to act like he's 18 and the yo yo yo and the baseball cap on backwards and greetings my fellow youngsters, that's when it starts to get ridiculous.

The trick is to be cooler than the youngsters. And when you've got a bit of money in your pocket, some life experience, wisdom, and a playfully condescending attitude to younger people, it's not hard.

Post: #22

delete

Post: #23

A career change is it. Teaching has the issue if "professional ethics". Actually, if you take an interest course at night school with the local community college you can get the same effect. If you are in a big city, check out an acting school. Most of those students are early 20s but an older guy is not an obvious standout.

I was 30 and in law school and took " out of faculty credits" in film and video production. The final project was to write and direct a short. I didn't use that as game but in the casting process I met several young ladies, a few of whom were smoking hot.

The other possibility is to front your own rock band and do gigs at local pubs. Even middle aged bar bands have groupies.

Post: #24

The tourism industry is a great one for this as well, if you're running tours targeted at a young demographic you've got an endless stream of talent passing through with that significant advantage of them not remaining in your area. Basically you can have a quick fling and then never hear from them again as they go off to the next stop on their trip or home. This is important compared to teaching or business where you have to work with them, they live in the same town and they gossip.

Things like owning a hostel, action tour company, booze cruise (boat or bus) type things targeted at tourists are a great way to do it. The difficult can be in making money doing this of course but that's not really any different to any of the other options I guess, I've seen a lot more bars/clubs that don't make any money than decent tour operations.

Post: #25

(12-25-2018 08:49 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  Don't act your age. If you're 47 or 52 and you genuinely feel more or less as you did when you were 35, then act like you're 35. Feeling younger than you are is the easy bit. Acting like it without feeling bad is something you need to learn to do without hangups.

What does it mean ‘acting like you’re 50 or 35 or 18’ ??? Do people really act differently at 35 and at 50? Can you give examples? I have no idea what you’re talking about. I think that behaviour is more idiosyncratic than age-based. I have acted exactly the same since I was 14.