Post: #1

Pretty good success story about an African in Korea

Post: #2

That was pretty cool.

Post: #3

The only thing i think of is how much Korean pussy this man has gotten.
Kudos for him grinding out something this difficult, but at the end of the day one of the reasons why he's still in korea is because the pussy he is able to get through fame.

Post: #4

Game recognized.

Post: #5

A lucky man!

Judging by the video, it looks like he has access to plenty of Korean 3's and 4's.

Post: #6

I enjoyed this.

He DOES makes me think of will Smith though...

Post: #7

(03-26-2017 07:40 PM)Suits Wrote:  Judging by the video, it looks like he has access to plenty of Korean 3's and 4's.

Those are only 4s? I'm buying a plane ticket too Korea ASAP.

Post: #8

the ones in the video display image are, yeah.

Post: #9

Now that is how you do Asia! He immersed himself and is greatly benefiting from it. You don't even have to be 100% fluent like him, and can still do well. He has love from K dudes and gals, which is the right way to carry yourself and avoid haters. Suits might be joking about those 3s and 4s, but those are just fans on the street. I can imagine he has enough social proof to keep consistent 8-10s with just his fame game alone. Whether he does that, is anyone's guess though. Most famous people have zero game, outside their looks.

I wonder how the ladies feel about that beard of his. He is tall with a square jaw, which is highly desirable there, but that uneven scruff on his face is usually not something East Asian women pine over. I bet if he cleaned that up he could get more idol worship there. I dunno for sure, just an idea.

Post: #10

(03-27-2017 01:23 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 07:40 PM)Suits Wrote:  Judging by the video, it looks like he has access to plenty of Korean 3's and 4's.

Those are only 4s? I'm buying a plane ticket too Korea ASAP.

On the freeze frame, those are definitely 4s. I saw a flash of 5's on the street, 6 if they had nice bodies but they have on too much overcoat layers to see that.

Korea is weird like that. You could see a 4 dressed like a clown one second, turn the corner and bam a 8-10. Japan and China are more uniform like. What I mean is that, you usually do not see high low contrasts sporadically like that. You will either see a sea of 5s or 6s, with sprinkles of high numbers. Seeing anything under 5 that is under 30 years old, is not super common in some cities. Usually a ton of 4 and less means there are a bunch of old women walking around outside, but my mind kinda ignores anything under 40 when scanning to get a feel of the talent pool. Korea can fool you like that. I thought the first few hours in, all the girls were ugly on average, until I saw how sporadic the talent is walking around.

It also does not help when the ugly ones wear makeup like a clown and dress strange to match.

Post: #11

As a Korean American who has proficiency in the language and lived/worked in Seoul, I'll chime in with a few opinions/data points:

1. His Korean is extremely good, particularly the accent. I've encountered non-Koreans in academia that are more fluent than the average native speaker (PhD level discourse in Korean) but their accents are still noticeably foreign. Korean has very difficult vowels (eu/eui) and double consonants (e.g. bb/pp/dd) that are notoriously hard for non Koreans to pick up, but this guy does it like a champ.

2. Someone told me that Sam Okyere came from Ghana as a Christian missionary to help preach the gospel... Not sure how true that is - couldn't really find anything through google searches - but it sounds weird considering that Korea already has a large Christian population (+/- 30% of the population) with many hardcore evangelicals. Re: the "how much pussy he's getting question" If this is true (big if) it would probably be detrimental to banging sluts out left/right. If inclined however, I bet he could get lots of SNL's based on his fame, but girls taking him home to meet the parents would be a significantly harder hurdle to overcome.

3. South Korean media is highly controlled by the government: With the decades long decline in birth rates, the government has instituted incentives for natives to have kids: tax credits, more leave time, etc. However, even these policies have been ineffective, and the demographic trends show that Koreans will be extinct in a few centuries if they don't get on this shit now. Hence, the explosion of new TV programs showing the daily lives of foreigners in Korea, glowing reports of female SE Asian immigrants and how happy they are marrying Korean men in rural areas, etc. Koreans have had programs with foreigners speaking Korean since the late 80's, but it was largely surface level shit for the novelty factor. My buddy was on a show in the early 2000's where he and an Italian wandered around Korea talking to people. According to him, 80% of the time, they encouraged him to get drunk and stumble around for comedic effect. There's been a big change in the tone of these programs in the past few years with much more glowing and in-depth treatment of foreign people to help combat the insular "we are the best" non-PC culture that most Koreans have. In this case, the highly positive portrayal of Sam Okyere mixed in with a generous amount of shaming (see videos on him talking about Koreans being wildly racist to him) are a good one-two punch.

Whatever the case, this guy deserves all the success he gets. His Korean language skills are exceptional, he's charismatic, well spoken and good looking. If anyone can combat the negative stereotypes of black people in Korean minds, it's definitely him.

Post: #12

(03-27-2017 02:20 PM)booshala Wrote:  As a Korean American who has proficiency in the language and lived/worked in Seoul, I'll chime in with a few opinions/data points:



3. South Korean media is highly controlled by the government: With the decades long decline in birth rates, the government has instituted incentives for natives to have kids: tax credits, more leave time, etc. However, even these policies have been ineffective, and the demographic trends show that Koreans will be extinct in a few centuries if they don't get on this shit now. Hence, the explosion of new TV programs showing the daily lives of foreigners in Korea, glowing reports of female SE Asian immigrants and how happy they are marrying Korean men in rural areas, etc. Koreans have had programs with foreigners speaking Korean since the late 80's, but it was largely surface level shit for the novelty factor. My buddy was on a show in the early 2000's where he and an Italian wandered around Korea talking to people. According to him, 80% of the time, they encouraged him to get drunk and stumble around for comedic effect. There's been a big change in the tone of these programs in the past few years with much more glowing and in-depth treatment of foreign people to help combat the insular "we are the best" non-PC culture that most Koreans have. In this case, the highly positive portrayal of Sam Okyere mixed in with a generous amount of shaming (see videos on him talking about Koreans being wildly racist to him) are a good one-two punch.

Interesting. So what you're saying is that the Korean government has recently, as in the last few years, started to engage in a concerted SJW-lite brainwashing campaign against its people? Very curious, I'd be interested to know who (and why) began the implementation of this program and whether it arose spontaneously from within the Korean government or whether the Korean government was prodded in this direction by outside influences.

If Korea is a democratic country, then its government should serve as the will of the people. If the people are non-PC and the government is actively working to make them less so, then obviously the government has an agenda that is at odds with what the people want, since by definition people who are not-PC would not wish their government to try and make them PC. In other words, there is foul play at work here.

Post: #13

(03-27-2017 05:05 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Interesting. So what you're saying is that the Korean government has recently, as in the last few years, started to engage in a concerted SJW-lite brainwashing campaign against its people? Very curious, I'd be interested to know who (and why) began the implementation of this program and whether it arose spontaneously from within the Korean government or whether the Korean government was prodded in this direction by outside influences.

If Korea is a democratic country, then its government should serve as the will of the people. If the people are non-PC and the government is actively working to make them less so, then obviously the government has an agenda that is at odds with what the people want, since by definition people who are not-PC would not wish their government to try and make them PC. In other words, there is foul play at work here.

Yeah, I'm saying that the Korean government has been meddling in these types of affairs for a long time. I don't think the government is trying to make citizens more politically correct just to further an SJW agenda. I believe they see it as a means to combat a systemic population collapse of the entire country if they don't get the birth rate up.

One should note that South Korea is only 29 years from being run effectively as a totalitarian government of strongman who took power by force (Chun Doo Hwan). A lot of these tactics are hard habits to break by power actors still on the scene and are largely right under the surface. The country has gotten past the point where a dictator can tell the people, "hey, ya'll need to start fucking more" but there's still a lot of psy-ops behind the scenes. Hence, my assertion that there's a huge cultural push backed by the government re: 1) foreigners aren't so bad 2) let's be more accepting and 3) Koreans intermarrying with other ethnic groups and having children (preferably multiple births) can work.

Still, if you don't think that the US, Western European governments or any other "democratic countries" aren't puppet mastering their populations as well, I'd say you were being naive.

Post: #14

The brainwashing goes both ways, though. Wasn't the Korean media constantly harping on the dangers of foreigners?

Post: #15

Interesting story. Hats off to this guy's hustle. Found a niche and is doing his thing.

I was in Korea for a year in the mid-1990s as a civilian. But people tell me that those days are like ancient history now. They say that it's changed a lot. Maybe, and maybe not so much. I remember on TV there was one German dude that had won himself a niche as the "token foreigner" on some of the daytime soap operas, which were big in those days. He spoke the language with a high level of fluency.

There definitely is a need in East Asia to have "token foreigners" around almost as curiosities. I'm not saying this to detract from Sam's hustle, his achievement, or his game, so don't take it the wrong way. I'm just saying that Japan and Korea (and to some degree China) have their ethnic quotas in the entertainment industry and public life. That's just how it works.

But for me I could never stay in Asia long-term. I did my time in Japan & Korea, and I'm a different person than what I was in my 20s.

For me, I don't like to play that role. You're trapped, in a way, and are never allowed to forget you are not "one of them." I didn't enjoy being the constant outsider, the constant weygukin (foreigner), the constant curiosity. It gets old after a while. I had to escape.

Some guys can do it: and my respect to them. But it's not for everyone. Now that I'm older, I know what I like: Mediterranean and South American culture. Everyone is different and has to find the right frequency for that Divine Instrument, so that it stirs his heart.

This guy from Ghana seems like he's found a way to make it work. Good for him. But I predict that even he will find out that he'll need to move on at some point. Sooner or later, the walls begin to close in around you. And then you need to "pull up chalks" and move on.

Both Korea and Japan will always remain closed to outsiders. I don't blame them for it; I suppose they're only products of their history and environment, like all of us. I know some of you guys may think I'm being negative, but that's just the way I feel. I value my time there, but I would never want to go back.

Sam needs to save as much money as he can, because the time may come to leave sooner than he thinks. But even so, I'm sure a guy of his intelligence and hustle will be able to leverage his experience to some other career step.

Hell, that's the kind of guy who should be Prime Minister of Ghana. He could use his Asia experience to sign a ton of deals with South Korean companies for infrastructure development.

Post: #16

(03-28-2017 12:00 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Interesting story. Hats off to this guy's hustle. Found a niche and is doing his thing.

I was in Korea for a year in the mid-1990s as a civilian. But people tell me that those days are like ancient history now. They say that it's changed a lot. Maybe, and maybe not so much. I remember on TV there was one German dude that had won himself a niche as the "token foreigner" on some of the daytime soap operas, which were big in those days. He spoke the language with a high level of fluency.

There definitely is a need in East Asia to have "token foreigners" around almost as curiosities. I'm not saying this to detract from Sam's hustle, his achievement, or his game, so don't take it the wrong way. I'm just saying that Japan and Korea (and to some degree China) have their ethnic quotas in the entertainment industry and public life. That's just how it works.

But for me I could never stay in Asia long-term. I did my time in Japan & Korea, and I'm a different person than what I was in my 20s.

For me, I don't like to play that role. You're trapped, in a way, and are never allowed to forget you are not "one of them." I didn't enjoy being the constant outsider, the constant weygukin (foreigner), the constant curiosity. It gets old after a while. I had to escape.

Some guys can do it: and my respect to them. But it's not for everyone. Now that I'm older, I know what I like: Mediterranean and South American culture. Everyone is different and has to find the right frequency for that Divine Instrument, so that it stirs his heart.

This guy from Ghana seems like he's found a way to make it work. Good for him. But I predict that even he will find out that he'll need to move on at some point. Sooner or later, the walls begin to close in around you. And then you need to "pull up chalks" and move on.

Both Korea and Japan will always remain closed to outsiders. I don't blame them for it; I suppose they're only products of their history and environment, like all of us. I know some of you guys may think I'm being negative, but that's just the way I feel. I value my time there, but I would never want to go back.

Sam needs to save as much money as he can, because the time may come to leave sooner than he thinks. But even so, I'm sure a guy of his intelligence and hustle will be able to leverage his experience to some other career step.

Hell, that's the kind of guy who should be Prime Minister of Ghana. He could use his Asia experience to sign a ton of deals with South Korean companies for infrastructure development.

In the video he runs what looks like some kind of juice bar. Which is great for him because his fame will allow him to grow faster than an average small business.

Post: #17

(03-28-2017 12:00 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  But for me I could never stay in Asia long-term. I did my time in Japan & Korea, and I'm a different person than what I was in my 20s.

For me, I don't like to play that role. You're trapped, in a way, and are never allowed to forget you are not "one of them." I didn't enjoy being the constant outsider, the constant weygukin (foreigner), the constant curiosity. It gets old after a while. I had to escape.

Both Korea and Japan will always remain closed to outsiders. I don't blame them for it; I suppose they're only products of their history and environment, like all of us. I know some of you guys may think I'm being negative, but that's just the way I feel. I value my time there, but I would never want to go back.

Asia is tough on outsiders. That's one reason I prefer China. There's enough diversity here in the host population that you aren't an outsider to the same degree. I speak Chinese to a point where the locals are often unaware that I'm not fluent. I understand enough to fake the rest.

Rather than making me a curiousity, it makes me less of an outsider in a way. People realize that they have to watch their mouth around me. When kids (who are too old to be doing it) point at me and shout "foreigner" (doesn't happen a lot in Beijing, but once in a while it does), I can stare them down and ask them "what are you doing" in a sharp enough tone that they'll never think to do it again.

Most of the time I react the same way to various behaviours that an Asian-Canadian would if they faced them from a white Canadian. And it actually works well.

That being said, the issue of needing to belong never goes away. When you're depending on temporary and entirely revocable visas that convey now essential rights, you're eternally an outsider.

That's why, I'm considering a move in the next ten years to Taiwan, where permanent residency or citizenship (your choice) can be achieved in five years.

(03-28-2017 12:00 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This guy from Ghana seems like he's found a way to make it work. Good for him. But I predict that even he will find out that he'll need to move on at some point. Sooner or later, the walls begin to close in around you. And then you need to "pull up chalks" and move on.

Sam needs to save as much money as he can, because the time may come to leave sooner than he thinks. But even so, I'm sure a guy of his intelligence and hustle will be able to leverage his experience to some other career step.

I agree. As the writers of WallStreetPlayboys have stated repeated, "fame is for suckers." I mean, this Ghanan dude can't even go out in public without a mask, because he can't get anything fucking down when everyone wants a photo with the poor guy.

My prediction is that he moves on in ten years or less.

It didn't take long for DaShan, the big white face in Chinese media, to relocate in Toronto and simply fly into China whenever he had a show to do. But his family lived in Toronto and so did he.

Imagine that, a guy with perfect Chinese and plenty of connection (arguable the one white man the most to gain by being in China) doesn't want to fucking live there and he definitely doesn't want his children growing up there. That should tell you everything you need to know.

For guys like me who've spent extremely minimal time in our home countries for a decade or more and are pretty well adjusted to life somewhere else, there's a lot of uncertainty about the future.

We certainly don't want to return to our home countries (we left for a reason), but we know that the day will come when we don't want to continue to be an outside in the country we've chosen to reside in.

For me, I expect to simply relocate somewhere else, potentially in Asia, but I'd consider South America or Eastern Europe as well.

That's why I visited Malaysia and Singapore in January and why I'm eager to visit Taiwan for the first time. I'm scoping out potential places to move to when the time comes.

Kuala Lumpur didn't blow my mind, but it was a nice change from mainland China. I couldn't see myself settling down there permanently, but I think I could enjoy it for a few years. It's nice to know that if worse comes to worse, I could probably always find a new place to enjoy for a few years before the thrill wore off.

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(03-27-2017 11:06 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Korea is weird like that. You could see a 4 dressed like a clown one second, turn the corner and bam a 8-10. Japan and China are more uniform like. What I mean is that, you usually do not see high low contrasts sporadically like that. You will either see a sea of 5s or 6s, with sprinkles of high numbers. Seeing anything under 5 that is under 30 years old, is not super common in some cities. Usually a ton of 4 and less means there are a bunch of old women walking around outside, but my mind kinda ignores anything under 40 when scanning to get a feel of the talent pool. Korea can fool you like that. I thought the first few hours in, all the girls were ugly on average, until I saw how sporadic the talent is walking around.

That's surprising.

Many Chinese girls are too busy working or studying to make an effort to look good. Slender but skinny fat, androgenous or garish clothes, bad skin. And this is only the Chinese girls wealthy enough to make it it to Australia. Sheesh, I knew one girl who would have been a seven minimum if she bothered to wax her upper lip.

And, as you'd probably agree, some Chinese can be jawdroppingly pretty.

Koreans on the otherhand, from my limited experience live in a more looks focused society, with better access to cosmetic surgery, fitness and fashion information and safe cosmetics. I would have thought it would be far easier and more necessary for an ugly girl to catch up with her prettier sisters.

That being said, my standards are lower than yours. I consider any slender girl with a symmetrical face with good skin to be at least a 5.

(03-28-2017 02:36 AM)Suits Wrote:  Rather than making me a curiousity, it makes me less of an outsider in a way. People realize that they have to watch their mouth around me. When kids (who are too old to be doing it) point at me and shout "foreigner" (doesn't happen a lot in Beijing, but once in a while it does), I can stare them down and ask them "what are you doing" in a sharp enough tone that they'll never think to do it again.
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That's why, I'm considering a move in the next ten years to Taiwan, where permanent residency or citizenship (your choice) can be achieved in five years.

Have you thought about Xinjiang? It's far less of a monoculture, so won't be pigeonholed as "the foreigner".

Post: #19

(03-27-2017 09:50 PM)the high Wrote:  The brainwashing goes both ways, though. Wasn't the Korean media constantly harping on the dangers of foreigners?

I think that was China.

(03-28-2017 05:19 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:06 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Korea is weird like that. You could see a 4 dressed like a clown one second, turn the corner and bam a 8-10. Japan and China are more uniform like. What I mean is that, you usually do not see high low contrasts sporadically like that. You will either see a sea of 5s or 6s, with sprinkles of high numbers. Seeing anything under 5 that is under 30 years old, is not super common in some cities. Usually a ton of 4 and less means there are a bunch of old women walking around outside, but my mind kinda ignores anything under 40 when scanning to get a feel of the talent pool. Korea can fool you like that. I thought the first few hours in, all the girls were ugly on average, until I saw how sporadic the talent is walking around.

That's surprising.

Many Chinese girls are too busy working or studying to make an effort to look good. Slender but skinny fat, androgenous or garish clothes, bad skin. And this is only the Chinese girls wealthy enough to make it it to Australia. Sheesh, I knew one girl who would have been a seven minimum if she bothered to wax her upper lip.

And, as you'd probably agree, some Chinese can be jawdroppingly pretty.

Koreans on the otherhand, from my limited experience live in a more looks focused society, with better access to cosmetic surgery, fitness and fashion information and safe cosmetics. I would have thought it would be far easier and more necessary for an ugly girl to catch up with her prettier sisters.

That being said, my standards are lower than yours. I consider any slender girl with a symmetrical face with good skin to be at least a 5.

(03-28-2017 02:36 AM)Suits Wrote:  Rather than making me a curiousity, it makes me less of an outsider in a way. People realize that they have to watch their mouth around me. When kids (who are too old to be doing it) point at me and shout "foreigner" (doesn't happen a lot in Beijing, but once in a while it does), I can stare them down and ask them "what are you doing" in a sharp enough tone that they'll never think to do it again.
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That's why, I'm considering a move in the next ten years to Taiwan, where permanent residency or citizenship (your choice) can be achieved in five years.

Have you thought about Xinjiang? It's far less of a monoculture, so won't be pigeonholed as "the foreigner".

Some Korean women have bad skin just like Chinese women. Thing is, Chinese women notoriously walk around without makeup until about 23-25, sometimes 27. Chinese women just don't have it in their culture to use cosmetics that much. Alot of it is imported from Korea, Japan, or the USA, with a 35% tariff and that makes it cost more too. Also some brands have had scandals for being fake or burning women's skin, so there is hesitancy for some to bother with it. It's not always because they are too busy.

Koreans are the complete opposite of that. They use makeup. I saw some younger girls without it, but they were pretty young, like under 20 possibly. Like you mentioned they have surgery options, Chinese don't have access to, and they also have some of the best skin treatment clinics in the world.

Koreans on the otherhand might be beating the Japanese for top spot of Asian Capital of Cosmetics. If they are not number 1 yet, they are number 2 and gaining. Chinese women go way out of their way to buy Korean cosmetics and it's big money here. Korean BB cream (like a type of foundation for the face) is one of the most sought after products. They have alot of the ones that make the face look white like a ghost. As you can imagine, that's very popular in Asia...