Post: #1

Check this dude out.

Post: #2

With 35 being the time millenials get out of adolescence you can say "Yep, 60 is the new 40"

Post: #3

No, 60 is not the new 40. This guy is in the top 1% of 60 year olds. Aging is no joke. There's only so much you can control with diet and exercise. The problem with getting older is that you can't predict what's going to go wrong with your body. You just start breaking down all over the place. It's a never-ending losing battle. Everyone should do the best they can, but I wouldn't count on being in that shape at 60. That not only takes a lot of discipline, good genetics and TRT, but most of all simply good fortune.

Good health is the greatest blessing you can have in life. Enjoy it while you can and do everything you can to preserve it. Because you'll start to lose it sooner than you think, and it only takes one bad accident or diagnosis to take it from you permanently.

Post: #4

I guess the question is how much of this guy's health and looks can be attributed to discipline good habit and diet? There's probably no way to fully quantify... but at least we now most of those things are controllable.

Post: #5

(09-09-2018 06:26 PM)rhodey Wrote:  I guess the question is how much of this guy's health and looks can be attributed to discipline good habit and diet? There's probably no way to fully quantify... but at least we now most of those things are controllable.

For some it can be life changing.. even in late middle age:

Post: #6

Also keep in mind he’s the ceo of the parent company that owns rock star video games. A company that has made a billion on more on a handful of games.

That means his net worth is several million at least. One thing to keep in mind about men with real wealth is that they are removed from the daily grind, and while they aren’t stress free, they don’t necessarily suffer from the same stresses that tend to age us.

Also, when you achieve a certain level of wealth, you start to gain absolute control over your environment. And you have access to hgh and testosterone supplements, and people don’t question it.

Post: #7

TRT is the new normal is more like it. Not to mention, even on TRT he looks like he has amazing genetics.

I'm joking and I don't know if he's really on hormones.

That said, I do know 60-year-old + guys who took great care of themselves and went on HRT (these guys were bodybuilders back in the day) and they look like they're 35-40 years old.

I regularly talk to one of these guys and he's a really inspirational person. He's always on a hustle, has several kids and really seems to have a great appreciation for life.

Post: #8

I agree with Scropion, but I also recognize that over time mankind has made a lot of strides in medicine, nutrition, and fitness/lifestyle that allows people to stay healthy and more youthful at later years in life than in the past. I wouldn't call "60 the new 40" because a handful of people on earth are in amazing shape in their 60's, but I would say being 60 in today's modern world is far more favorable than being 40 in the 1800's...

Post: #9

That guy not only has top-diet and exercise, but certainly takes a full dose of hormones and has likely hormone-levels of 20yo men.

It's not the most expensive thing to do, but it comes to around 5-10k/month if you insist on a specialized individualized all-natural cocktail:



This is Dr. Life who is offering this, but started out later and with far less optimal looks:



But fact is - with modern knowledge and access to diet, supplements as well as hormones you can look far younger and be far more healthy than in previous times.

Men in the past often used to look rough even at age 42:



Personally I think that there will be more advances in the future - not immortality or real centuries longevity, but at age 100 looking like 60 who knows....

Post: #10

I'd be quite happy with another 20-25 years of being able to look like that.

Post: #11

60 is the new 20. Just look on facebook

Post: #12

Guys need to get serious and stop adopting this female Sex and the city mindset.

Co-sign everything Scorpion said. Just because some rich dudes or some cool grandpas can do it doesnt mean we all can do it. We have a wall survivor thread but most wall hitting women look fucking hideous and act like lunatics. Say 60 is the new 40 to professional athletes and see what they tell you.

The wall, physically and mentally, does exist for men no matter what you do. Mother nature will have her due. I think the only lessening factor is that it affects men less than women because we don't have a set child bearing age (our sperms DO get weaker with age though). With discipline and good habit you can lessen its effects but you can't stop it, and its childish to pretend otherwise.

I'm 27 now and live healthy, doing sport and martial arts everyday save the weekend. Yet I can feel my body weakening everyday. Things that could never go wrong back when I was 22 start becoming a problem. A false movement may pop a tendons or a muscle, and it takes much longer to recover from injury. I remember how at 22 I dislocated my shoulder during a bad breakfall. Doc said took 2 weeks off not moving a muscle. The next week I'm back at the dojo feeling good as new. Now? Just overstress my shoulder during a bad pull-up and it has taken 3 visits to a chiropractor and I can still feel it.

Post: #13

We should all just try to improve on what we have and slow things down as much as possible.

I'm in my mid-forties now and until the last couple of years I felt bullet-proof and competed hard (and pretty recklessly) in a lot of sports; soccer, running, cycling, judo, squash. Only recently have injuries caught up with me, but I'm still in better condition than most men I see (not just those my own age). The only thing I've changed is more stretching and less ego-lifting. I do regular (but not excessive) steady-state runs and cycling and weights (bodybuilding) a couple of times a week. I throw in some sprints now and again. Push-ups, Pull-ups, Sit-ups, Stretching every day at random. Oh, and before I hit the weights I hit the heavy bag for a couple of rounds to warm-up.

The only thing I've stopped has been Judo. I thought I would keep doing it throughout my life, but it's playing with fire. Just too damn risky, it's already damaged me enough.

This guy probably does have good genes, and he probably does have all the 'help' money can buy, but nevertheless, it's a good idea to use him and others like him as inspiration. Watching him training just makes me want to train harder. At best, you can get near or surpass him. At worst, you will still end up looking great for your age!

I read somewhere that the key to ageing well is all about what you DON'T do, rather than what you do. In other words, if you are still smoking, drinking, eating shit and taking drugs then there's really no point in taking any countermeasures like exercise, just stop doing stupid things and you are 90% there already!

Post: #14

I would say with diet, exercise and TRT most of us could be functionally in as good shape as that guy at 60. It's just a matter of discipline. What makes him look extra youthful is his head of hair (possibly not natural) and lack of sun damage to the face.

Post: #15

(09-12-2018 07:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I'm 27 now and live healthy, doing sport and martial arts everyday save the weekend. Yet I can feel my body weakening everyday. Things that could never go wrong back when I was 22 start becoming a problem. A false movement may pop a tendons or a muscle, and it takes much longer to recover from injury. I remember how at 22 I dislocated my shoulder during a bad breakfall. Doc said took 2 weeks off not moving a muscle. The next week I'm back at the dojo feeling good as new. Now? Just overstress my shoulder during a bad pull-up and it has taken 3 visits to a chiropractor and I can still feel it.

Wait until you reach 40, then you can really start complaining.

Make working out a habit, eat a clean diet, don't smoke, have a social circle, don't stress too much. Once your libido goes down, and trust me, it will, go on TRT. Maybe do HGH once in a while to heal those pestering injuries that just won't recover. I haven't taken hgh yet, but am tempted since I have multiple shoulder injuries from years ago that still aren't fully healed.

I cut my self six weeks ago on my shin while swimming , and it's still scabbed over and barely healing. When I was in my teens this would be healed in 10 days tops. I scalled myself three months ago on my wrist with hot water, and it's still red there. Aging fucking sucks, there is no way around it, so do what you can to get through it.

Post: #16

(09-12-2018 07:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Guys need to get serious and stop adopting this female Sex and the city mindset.

Co-sign everything Scorpion said. Just because some rich dudes or some cool grandpas can do it doesnt mean we all can do it. We have a wall survivor thread but most wall hitting women look fucking hideous and act like lunatics. Say 60 is the new 40 to professional athletes and see what they tell you.

The wall, physically and mentally, does exist for men no matter what you do. Mother nature will have her due. I think the only lessening factor is that it affects men less than women because we don't have a set child bearing age (our sperms DO get weaker with age though). With discipline and good habit you can lessen its effects but you can't stop it, and its childish to pretend otherwise.

I'm 27 now and live healthy, doing sport and martial arts everyday save the weekend. Yet I can feel my body weakening everyday. Things that could never go wrong back when I was 22 start becoming a problem. A false movement may pop a tendons or a muscle, and it takes much longer to recover from injury. I remember how at 22 I dislocated my shoulder during a bad breakfall. Doc said took 2 weeks off not moving a muscle. The next week I'm back at the dojo feeling good as new. Now? Just overstress my shoulder during a bad pull-up and it has taken 3 visits to a chiropractor and I can still feel it.

You feel your body weakening very day at 27? I felt the opposite at that age. I read studies that each generation has a lower TEST baseline, maybe there is something ot that.

Post: #17

(09-14-2018 01:52 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 07:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I'm 27 now and live healthy, doing sport and martial arts everyday save the weekend. Yet I can feel my body weakening everyday. Things that could never go wrong back when I was 22 start becoming a problem. A false movement may pop a tendons or a muscle, and it takes much longer to recover from injury. I remember how at 22 I dislocated my shoulder during a bad breakfall. Doc said took 2 weeks off not moving a muscle. The next week I'm back at the dojo feeling good as new. Now? Just overstress my shoulder during a bad pull-up and it has taken 3 visits to a chiropractor and I can still feel it.

Wait until you reach 40, then you can really start complaining.

Make working out a habit, eat a clean diet, don't smoke, have a social circle, don't stress too much. Once your libido goes down, and trust me, it will, go on TRT. Maybe do HGH once in a while to heal those pestering injuries that just won't recover. I haven't taken hgh yet, but am tempted since I have multiple shoulder injuries from years ago that still aren't fully healed.

I cut my self six weeks ago on my shin while swimming , and it's still scabbed over and barely healing. When I was in my teens this would be healed in 10 days tops. I scalled myself three months ago on my wrist with hot water, and it's still red there. Aging fucking sucks, there is no way around it, so do what you can to get through it.

40? I'll see that and raise you 10 years. Try being 50 and being active. I stated in the lifters lounge that I lift 3 days a week and usually try to go heavy but man it is getting harder to sustain. 2 weeks ago I tweaked my lower back trying a new exercise out and it's only now that I'm feeling better. I had to go light these last two weeks and it sucked, I felt like my girl who I work out with was doing heavier weight than me (she wasn't of course but it felt like it). Finally yesterday I was able to go heavy and I felt like a beast doing it.

Being physically active and in good shape can be done when you're old but you have to know your limitations, when to push hard and when to pull back. You really have to know your body and have a keen sense of what is going on with it. Five to six years ago I was in really good shape, lifting hard and playing hockey with a bunch of guys and girls 15 to 20 years younger than me but now, I don't think I could do all that. I went on TRT about 3 years ago and it helped a lot, especially with strength but do not kid yourselves, getting old is tough. The guy in the vid is clearly doing a lot of various different hormonal treatments, not just TRT and HGH. He looks great though, I'll give him that but no I don't believe that 60 is the new 40.

Post: #18

You’re looking at 6+ units of HgH daily and blasting and cruising, probably cruises on Equipose along with his Sustanon. Not to say he doesn’t work out hard but at 60 you don’t look that way without AAS.

Post: #19

(09-14-2018 06:29 PM)rhodey Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 07:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  snip

You feel your body weakening very day at 27? I felt the opposite at that age. I read studies that each generation has a lower TEST baseline, maybe there is something ot that.

Still very healthy but not as healthy as when I was 24, much less so back at 18, I believe my physical peak was back at 24. I believe this varies with everybody. At the time I remember I was running from one martial art/sport training session to another and I was still hungry for more. I could also hop on a long flight, sleep on command, get up to eat, back to sleep and wake up when the plane landed. Every flight used to last an hour to me despite how long it took. Now it's all a freaking nightmare because I can no longer sleep on a plane.

Part of this may have to do with having a deskjob. Certainly didn't do any good to my lower back pain and overall energy. Just got a better job with much less stress and feeling happier, but not getting that feeling of invincibility ever again.

Post: #20

(09-14-2018 09:01 PM)ThrustMaster Wrote:  You’re looking at 6+ units of HgH daily and blasting and cruising, probably cruises on Equipose along with his Sustanon. Not to say he doesn’t work out hard but at 60 you don’t look that way without AAS.

Why equipose? For the endurance benefits?

That hgh level of 6iu seems high, but you can clearly tell from his skin tone that he's on hgh.

Dude also takes Propecia, probably had a hair transplant, colors his hair, and gets regular Botox and Juvederm injections. Likely was smart about wearing sunscreen though.

It just goes to show that aging fucking blows, it happens to everyone, and that there's no magic bullet out there. Working out and eating right slows down the process a tad, but you're still that snowball rolling down the hill, picking up speed.

Post: #21

(09-14-2018 08:10 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  40? I'll see that and raise you 10 years. Try being 50 and being active. I stated in the lifters lounge that I lift 3 days a week and usually try to go heavy but man it is getting harder to sustain. 2 weeks ago I tweaked my lower back trying a new exercise out and it's only now that I'm feeling better. I had to go light these last two weeks and it sucked, I felt like my girl who I work out with was doing heavier weight than me (she wasn't of course but it felt like it). Finally yesterday I was able to go heavy and I felt like a beast doing it.

Being physically active and in good shape can be done when you're old but you have to know your limitations, when to push hard and when to pull back. You really have to know your body and have a keen sense of what is going on with it. Five to six years ago I was in really good shape, lifting hard and playing hockey with a bunch of guys and girls 15 to 20 years younger than me but now, I don't think I could do all that. I went on TRT about 3 years ago and it helped a lot, especially with strength but do not kid yourselves, getting old is tough. The guy in the vid is clearly doing a lot of various different hormonal treatments, not just TRT and HGH. He looks great though, I'll give him that but no I don't believe that 60 is the new 40.

I know, everything's going great until you get an injury, and now you're set back by months trying to recover. All good plans are laid to waste by one small failure. I know that the day will come when I can't squat or bench press anymore. My shoulders have been bothering me like crazy with bench pressing, and didn't get any better with two weeks of rest. My left knee is definitely sore for days after squatting. I probably should be going to yoga, but I can't fit in the time with work, my workout regimen, and a wife/kid.

Post: #22

If lifting weights doesn't float your boat, you could always try Yoga! Seems to have worked out for the 66 yr old Sting;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar...runks.html





Yeah, I know, nobody wants to see a man in his underpants. Blame the photographer.

Post: #23

Or if you want to go the whole hog and embrace the Roids, Growth Hormone and PED lifestyle, there's always Stallone at 72!;






Is anyone aware of any well-aged celebs etc who don't lift? All those 'joggers' from the 70s and cardio super-fans from the 80s will be old-timers nowadays. What do they look like? Interesting to see how the cardio vs lifting wars have played out.

Post: #24

Sprint training is completely different.

First time I did a sprint-workout with a few subsequent sprints, then I could hardly walk for 10 days. Those dynamic fast muscle groups are utterly different. Plus - the running is way more fun and faster.

In addition - most guys who do sprint-training and lifting are able to run 10-20km as well. You don't even need to train for those distances - only if you want to massively improve your net results.

But then - you get a Marathoner body. Plus - I met a few overweight beer-bellied runners, also the slim-fat ones that are around.

Bodybuilders in contrast take at least massive doses of TRT when older, so they are naturally more fit. Running isn't what it was sold to older generations.

Post: #25

I stopped working out around 40 yrs of age,right after my kid was born. I am now 57, been hitting the gym regularly 3-4 times a week just over 1and1/2 yrs now. It was hard at beginning to get into routine, but after on and off for several months, I disciplined myself to work out at leas 3 times a week.
I don't push myself hard, but gradually I gained strength, stemina and endurance. It saved my sex life, no more loosing my hard on during sex.
4 months into workout, my wife noticed changes in my attitude and also belly size. Withing a year, I dropped 3 size down from 36 to 33,lost about 15lbs without any dieting, sure I changed my diet without realizing, was eating less and more protein based food.
I had always had lower back problems since in my 20s, and had difficulty at times walking when I did stupid couch lifting or similar. Since started working out now over year and half, my body looks better than when I was in my 30 and40s, never wake up with back problems anymore.
My advice is go slow, gradually increase your level never force yourself to injure or damage your joints,back,etc.

(09-17-2018 11:28 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 08:10 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  40? I'll see that and raise you 10 years. Try being 50 and being active. I stated in the lifters lounge that I lift 3 days a week and usually try to go heavy but man it is getting harder to sustain. 2 weeks ago I tweaked my lower back trying a new exercise out and it's only now that I'm feeling better. I had to go light these last two weeks and it sucked, I felt like my girl who I work out with was doing heavier weight than me (she wasn't of course but it felt like it). Finally yesterday I was able to go heavy and I felt like a beast doing it.

Being physically active and in good shape can be done when you're old but you have to know your limitations, when to push hard and when to pull back. You really have to know your body and have a keen sense of what is going on with it. Five to six years ago I was in really good shape, lifting hard and playing hockey with a bunch of guys and girls 15 to 20 years younger than me but now, I don't think I could do all that. I went on TRT about 3 years ago and it helped a lot, especially with strength but do not kid yourselves, getting old is tough. The guy in the vid is clearly doing a lot of various different hormonal treatments, not just TRT and HGH. He looks great though, I'll give him that but no I don't believe that 60 is the new 40.

I know, everything's going great until you get an injury, and now you're set back by months trying to recover. All good plans are laid to waste by one small failure. I know that the day will come when I can't squat or bench press anymore. My shoulders have been bothering me like crazy with bench pressing, and didn't get any better with two weeks of rest. My left knee is definitely sore for days after squatting. I probably should be going to yoga, but I can't fit in the time with work, my workout regimen, and a wife/kid.