Post: #1

Say there is a total of 4 hours of clubbing. Is gaming the first 2 hours better when girls arent yet drunk and they havent been hit on yet, or the last 2 hours when most girls are already tipsy but may have been hit on all night and have bitch shields, or maybe even hooked up already.

Post: #2

(02-28-2019 07:25 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  Say there is a total of 4 hours of clubbing. Is gaming the first 2 hours better when girls arent yet drunk and they havent been hit on yet, or the last 2 hours when most girls are already tipsy but may have been hit on all night and have bitch shields, or maybe even hooked up already.

In my experience it's very hard to pull before midnight or so. I've even tried going out cold at 1:30am - it's much easier when everyone is hammered already. Most likely all the male attention will go in your favor since it will have pumped up their state, unless they were seriously annoyed.

Post: #3

Interesting. My experience is almost the total opposite. Aside from occasional luck, I rarely pull a completely new girl at last call. Most often with same night pulls, I will meet a girl early-ish in the night and stick with her for some time before going home, or alternatively, meet her early and then come back to her later in the night (at which point she is familiar with me).

Agreed that it is usually hard to make the exit early in the night. However, I also think approaching girls at last call is a low-probability play. It can work sometimes, don't get me wrong, but at that point you're basically playing a pure numbers game.

Post: #4

I actually prefer going to clubs early because often times girls will show up early and leave around midnight depending on the city. Its low probability to wait until last call and slimmer pickings of the drunkest, slutties girls. The classier girls won't get too drunk and will leave by midnight. If you want a ONS, then wait until last call.

But if you want to meet the hottest girls and get their phone numbers, then there's higher quality girls earlier and before midnight. Besides, you should rely on getting drunk as the basis for game. You should be able to game girls sober and not rely on a drunkened state, unless maybe in the colder countries where women need beer to loosen up.

Post: #5

Women tend to show up at night venues before the men do. If you go early, you beat the sausage rush and can then get some comfort going and revisit her later or build up energy upward to then close early. The key is if you are rolling early, you both can leave before the last call. IMO, if she wants to leave with you before the last call, then you're likely getting the bang.

Post: #6

When you're a beginner or just more prone to sensory overload, it's good to come early. I say this because there's less people and things are a lot more lax which let's you warm up to the environment.

Post: #7

Good point, last thing i want is roll up to a packed club especially since I have to go solo.

Post: #8

Go early if you want to meet people, especially staff.

Best time to pull is an hour or two before closing or on the street after everything is shutting down.

Post: #9

EARLY

I have been going to clubs since I was fifteen years old, this is based completely on my experience and opinion.

Normally women who travel to night venues with other women arrive early, mainly because:

1. If the venue has places to sit this guarantees they don’t have to stand up all night with heels on.

2. They can scope out the place and see the atmosphere. I’ve seen groups literally do a round about and leave when they see cock fests.

3. Some places offer alcohol at certain times and it’s typically before 1AM usually to just women. “Girls drink free till midnight”

Typically after a certain hour and amount of alcohol girls start bouncing, this also depends on the city and I’m basing my experience off Miami and Cuba particularly.

Sure you have quite a few who stay upwards till 6AM but usually they are in social groups which include guys and/or they’re not the type of girls you want to stick your dick in.

Post: #10

(03-01-2019 02:54 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Go early if you want to meet people, especially staff.

Best time to pull is an hour or two before closing or on the street after everything is shutting down.

So true, if there are not hot girls, start chatting up the waitresses and bartenders. They might sleep with you if they are single or they will give you free drinks and act as wingmen to help introduce you to the other women at the bar. It improves your social proof and social standing to be friends with all the workers, especialy if you become a regular.

You also can practice your game by talking to the hot waitresses.

Post: #11

(02-28-2019 07:25 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  Say there is a total of 4 hours of clubbing. Is gaming the first 2 hours better when girls arent yet drunk and they havent been hit on yet, or the last 2 hours when most girls are already tipsy but may have been hit on all night and have bitch shields, or maybe even hooked up already.

The hottest girls always leave early, the first moments you get in the club or bar are usually your best bet.

I remember last summer I got in a bar and right away there was this guy making a fool of himself in front of two girls... the girls were laughing and a simple glimpse and smile at one of them and that was it.

The best nights happen when you come in hot.

Post: #12

IME

Get there early but not too early - you can meet some people, get warmed up, get a feel for what's going on

And then you will be in a good place once it starts peaking

Pull time like another guy said is gonna be a bit after the peak but before the close - usually

Post: #13

I like going early if its free or before they start charging an entrance fee. Try to stay around and get a wristband or stamp on the hand so you can leave and then come back later without going through the line. Some clubs are restaurants so go there early, grab a beer or appetizer, then if its dead, get the wristband and come back in an hour when it gets full.

Post: #14

LATE

Ill go late for the highest probability of a SNL. Youll be more sober than the other guys who have been drinking all night already (I drink at home as well, but less). The girls that leave early are also the girls who didnt want to hook up in the first place. Yes, quality might be slimmer, but if I just want quality, I run daygame. Nightgame is for a quick lay imo. Filtering for available chicks, and for that later is better. Not too late though, but the exact times depend on the city. (Im European, and lived and visited many different countries on the continent)

Post: #15

I agree Early is not the best. The girls that go from my experience in a college bar or early 20's are there with there friends and social circle not drunk and most likely leave early before 12 not looking to hook up. I have been at 9-930 to get the free cover and open bar and this has been my experience. If you go out at like 11-1130 then would be your best chance until 1-130. In my city bars close at 3, and the women in that time range are more likely drinking a bit and would be in a better situation to hook up. As far as building social proof etc with the bartending staff that may help a bit and give you something to do while you wait to approach ( I do it) but I really don't think most women are paying attention lol and it is mostly a numbers game.

Post: #16

Going earlier in the night is similar to daygame in that you are either going for a number close because she'll inevitably get secreted away by some cock-blocking friend to "another bar" where there is some guy she's going to meet, etc--or else you're an advanced PUA who is capable of isolating a girl right then and there, doing the venue changes to hopefully shake off her friends, or taking her somewhere for some immediate sex. If a girl is already headed to bed, she might just take you with her because if for no other reason than that she doesn't want to sleep alone.

Post: #17

Although exceptions exist, most of the girls that stay past 1:30AM will be low-quality trash that is just as desperate as the guys are.
The top-tier girls leave well before this time. And every minute past 1:30 it just gets worse and worse.

That being said if you just want a quick lay and the quality isn't a deciding factor for you, then your chances of those quick pulls are high near closing time.

Post: #18

This question is entirely dependent on the quality of clubbing in your city. If your city is no clubbing paradise it is always better to be early. Why is this? 1) Women get their first. 2) Women leave before men 3)Ratios are generally better early in the night, then they drop off as women get tired and leave, while men stay.

If you were in a place where heavy drinking is the norm, rather than the exception, say parts of northern europe, you have a completely different proposition on your hands. In such cultures, scenes, women get hammered late in the evening because they are preparing to hook up.

Another thing to keep in mind is how much will you be drinking. I find late starters to be heavy drinkers, to their detriment in terms of having any chances of taking anyone home.

I've found the majority of women to get more inflexible with plans as the night goes on, especially if they have friends. This is the point where egos really show themselves, as well as passive aggression which is all too common with girls. The challenge is to hit women up when they are properly buzzed, but before things get sloppy. In this sweetspot, this is where the magic happens.

Post: #19

Early, I don't night game common sense is amazing!

Early means more women as well as more women coming in throughout the night therefore more women to sleep with and more options. You arrive late, you get hungover leftovers. The other reasons are already discussed IIC but the variety and number is the most obvious reason

Post: #20

Why early OR late. Smack bang in the middle with a preference towards early! That way you get more exposure. This means familiarity. As the night progresses you get hotter and more desirable as they watch you. And they DO watch you if you've opened them early on and they're receptive.

I've always found getting in late to be harder work if you don't know anyone at the venue because people have already (subconsciously) settled into groups and you are now the new outsider. Could be good but usually is not.

Post: #21

I pulled a girl while in Vegas a couple weeks ago within the first hour of entering the club. That was the first time in at least 5 yrs that happened tbh

Post: #22

I find going early and doing a round - talking to different sets helpful. When the night progresses, you can hit on them with a second round so that they have registered some memory of you.

My luck with night game is totally random, I sometimes close early, sometimes late, and most time nothing. My modus operandi is go early, around 11am so that I can game sober girls until 1am, I try not to stay beyond 2am but sometimes I can't help it.

Post: #23

MIDDLE is the way to go.
If i should choose between early or late (and not middle) i would say early. It let you practice better, the best species are there, the girls have some alcohol in their body but not so much, and they would smell better.