Post: #1

Have you ever been in a situation where a woman was hitting on you even though you thought you looked so bad that you were embarrassed to be seen in public, and maybe were even slinking around hoping to not be noticed much?

It's happened to me a couple of times, although in both cases there were clearly other factors contributing to the woman's attraction. I still haven't processed what this means in terms of what women find attractive. Maybe it doesn't mean much: maybe these were just women with peculiar tastes. Still, though . . .

Post: #2

I was at a high end hotel lounge by myself. Called a friend of mine to get him to join since I knew he'd be in the area. He wasn't feeling it, was unshaven and wearing track pants and a t-shirt (albeit with nice shoes and a nice jacket). He's a good looking dude, but was a long way from looking his best.

He came in, we grabbed a drink at the bar. These two very good looking mid to late twenties girls kept looking over at us; we notice and smile over but don't do anything. Ten minutes later one of them approaches us and says to my friend that her friend wants to meet him. Two hours later they were banging. Asked why she approached him she said "you look like you just don't give a fuck".

Post: #3

This has happened to me several times. The opposite has happened too. I think I'm looking good and crispy and I get slammed on every approach. It's part of the unpredictability of game, and the difference between natural swagger and affected swagger.

Post: #4

I get a lot of unexpected success when I am doing things hangover/tipsy from the night before. Specially grocery shopping or car washing on saturday morning.

Women can smell that "I don't give a fuck" attitue/attire from kilometers away. Specially if you usually go to "high end" places. Looking like crap will only make you stick up. From there....your game.

Post: #5

This happens regularly with me too. I'll be scruffy and hungover and do better than when im better inclined. Roissy had a good post on hangover game at some point.

Post: #6

Have you ever been in a situation where a woman was hitting on you even though you thought you looked so bad that you were embarrassed to be seen in public, and maybe were even slinking around hoping to not be noticed much?

It's happened to me a couple of times, although in both cases there were clearly other factors contributing to the woman's attraction. I still haven't processed what this means in terms of what women find attractive. Maybe it doesn't mean much: maybe these were just women with peculiar tastes. Still, though . . .
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Hahaha this happens to me all the time!!!!

I'm a classic ectomorph and i'm very very self concious. If I haven't been to the gym for a few days I will disappear into nothingness very quickly.

If i'm not looking good I will not go out and game, I will not feel confident in myself and that will transpire to others.

Or so you would think, there I am hiding in my apartment looking gaunt and feeling like shit, and somebody coerces me into facing the world and having a beer. So i'm in the bar, and i'm getting eye fucked and i'm thinking "wtf, can this girl not see that I look like shit??, i've lost considerable mass, my hair is a disaster etc"

As John Lennon would say "Life is what's happening while you're making other plans"

Post: #7

I had this happen once myself.

I had worked a 14 hour day, it was cinco de mayo, I just wanted to trudge to a bar, have a shitty margarita and then go to bed. I was in cornball chef pants (not even check pants just frumpy navy blue draw strings) and a dirty, sweat stained, too-small white under shirt. I felt like ass, looked like ass, and smelled like ass.

I was in a total FUCK IT mood and was just listening to the music, sipping my drink when I scanned aorund the room and noticed I was getting eye fucked by like three different girls. I made eye contact with two of them and they blushed and started whispering to their friends. I was to rundown to do anything with it and I had to be up at 5am the next day so I just made a mental note and moved on.

I think it might have to do with giving off a "fuck it all" vibe. I was definitely in that kind of mood that night, I simply did not care, and I bet my body language conveyed that message loudly.

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Post: #8

Running on no sleep after just finishing up a week-long bender in NYC...

Post: #9

Me and my buddy just got done training and we decided to grab a beer real quick. All I had on was my fight shorts, t-shirt, Ringside hoodie and some flip flops. Hadn't showered, shaved or cut my hair. One drink turns into a dozen and we close the place down on a Tuesday night. End up with my pick between two 5.5ish girls so grabbed one up. Not great quality, but not bad for being unshowered after wrestling and boxing with a bunch of dudes and still wearing the same clothes. Not to mention my town is less than 10,000 people, so grabbing a 5.5 on a Tuesday is about as good as it gets lol.

Post: #10

(02-08-2012 06:14 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  Me and my buddy just got done training and we decided to grab a beer real quick. All I had on was my fight shorts, t-shirt, Ringside hoodie and some flip flops. Hadn't showered, shaved or cut my hair. One drink turns into a dozen and we close the place down on a Tuesday night. End up with my pick between two 5.5ish girls so grabbed one up. Not great quality, but not bad for being unshowered after wrestling and boxing with a bunch of dudes and still wearing the same clothes. Not to mention my town is less than 10,000 people, so grabbing a 5.5 on a Tuesday is about as good as it gets lol.

That's good stuff. I always pick up food on the way back from my MMA gym in the evenings; might try stopping at some of the restaurants on the strip for a quick bite -- always thought the soaked-through-with-sweat tee would be toxic to game, but hell, maybe not?

Post: #11

On the cool...I was homeless years ago, and still managed to get numbers and fuck girls. I'm talking about going days without showering and brushing my teeth in gas station restrooms. I still don't know how I did that with so many young sluts. I think I knew it couldn't get any worse for me so I truly didn't give a fuck when I was horny.

Post: #12

A few weeks ago I went out, ended up going to this broads house. Buddy picks me up and we immediately start boozing again. Didn't change my clothes, shower, brush my teeth, nothing from the night before. Just didn't give a flying fuck. Went out again and pulled another one, waaaay hotter than the girl before. No clue how or why, but I always wonder what the 2nd girl would have done if I told her I didn't shower and slept with someone else the night before as she was sucking me off.

Post: #13

You're my hero houston! This is a prime example of courage from within and I personally can't imagine how hard this must've been. You should really discuss this experience.

I don't recommend becoming homeless, but if a guy without a roof on his head can slay left and right then i need to dig deeper and step up. Respect man.

(02-08-2012 10:45 PM)houston Wrote:  On the cool...I was homeless years ago, and still managed to get numbers and fuck girls. I'm talking about going days without showering and brushing my teeth in gas station restrooms. I still don't know how I did that with so many young sluts. I think I knew it couldn't get any worse for me so I truly didn't give a fuck when I was horny.

Post: #14

I remember i met this girl in Norwich (somewhere in England) years ago and i was on my worse days. I was drunk, not dressed in the best way and i wasnt look good that day in most of ways and i knew it. However, i was still approaching tons of chicks like crazy, my friend who i was hanging out with had model looks but was just waiting for girls to approach him. I was kissing girls left and right as if i was a prince and i could kiss whoever i wanted to kiss.

This girl in particular really liked me and kept in touch, she loved my dont give a fuck spirit. 3 weeks down the line, she comes to meet me London, i was on my best of the best that day, i knew she would be surprised with how i could looked so different. Soon as she saw me, she was going crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..she started hugging her friend and i could tell how happy she was to see me..i ended fucking her and feeling hard her best friend...good old fucking days, i love this playboy lifestyle.

Post: #15

I posted a thread a while back on lays that happened in 10 minutes or less. Well...

I was at a music festival wearing a white polo shirt. Quite drunk, I was eating some french fries and a giant blotch of ketchup landed in the middle of my shirt. I swear to christ I said to my friend "wow, no way I'm getting laid tonight". And I truly believed that.

Fast forward to 10 minutes later at a concert (the Roots, I believe) and a girl was literally grinding up on me. She had a great body. It was basically drunken caveman game and within 10 minutes I was trying to hail a cab to her place (while she was explaining to her friends we were going to a party in her apt complex).

We cab to her place, she halted by the door of the party for a split second while I continue to walk toward the staircase (I had gathered before she was on the 2nd floor), gave her the eye, and she followed. In the apartment. Bang. Made me leave before her friends got back!

This girl was drunk and so was I, but I'm truly perplexed as to why this went the way it did. This girl was definitely attractive, not some ugly skank. This caveman game happened maybe 3 years ago. Away from DC of course. Fucking worst city.

Post: #16

(02-08-2012 10:45 PM)houston Wrote:  On the cool...I was homeless years ago, and still managed to get numbers and fuck girls. I'm talking about going days without showering and brushing my teeth in gas station restrooms. I still don't know how I did that with so many young sluts. I think I knew it couldn't get any worse for me so I truly didn't give a fuck when I was horny.

Congrats, man- I'm impressed.

I've always strongly disagreed with those guys usually- the "pua inner game" type-, who say " you have to get your shit together in the rest of your life before you get serious about improving your game."

To me, the truth is the opposite.

First of all, none of us is guaranteed a certain amount of life- we may be dead in five years- or in two years. You need to act now to enjoy life the best you can.

Second, you have to play the hand you're dealt at any given point in life and make the most of the opportunities you can find-waiting for the perfect time to act is a mistake. Do everything you can now with what you have now.

Third, I've found that gaming when I was in a rough period of life actually helped me in other aspects of my life.Having success with women can't but give you an ego boost and make you more confident and effective in other arenas of life.

Post: #17

MrXY, I definitely feel you there. My best friend pulled the best tail of his life when he was broke, unemployed, grew a ratty ass beard, and smelled like garlic and tequila all the time. The guy was my hero.

One instance comes to mind for me though--when I was in college, it was like the last week of finals and everyone was going out and getting wrecked every night as kind of a last hurrah of junior year. I had a wicked cold and nasty sore throat, I felt like utter shit and my breath fucking reeked from all the mucous dripping down the back of my nose.

I was kind of wandering around this trashy dance bar in a stuffy haze, polishing off my second or third glass of Jose when I spied some cute blonde dancing near the fan in the corner. Wanting to cool off myself, I ambled over to her and busted out some weak ass moves for my own amusement, and she was totally feeling it and stuck to my crotch for the rest of the night. It didn't take much for me to bring her home and get some of the worst head of my life. My roommate and another couple of guys who struck out that night tried to snake her from me, but she wouldn't budge. I certainly did not give a fuck that night.

Post: #18

(02-09-2012 01:51 AM)stein Wrote:  You're my hero houston! This is a prime example of courage from within and I personally can't imagine how hard this must've been. You should really discuss this experience.

I don't recommend becoming homeless, but if a guy without a roof on his head can slay left and right then i need to dig deeper and step up. Respect man.

(02-08-2012 10:45 PM)houston Wrote:  On the cool...I was homeless years ago, and still managed to get numbers and fuck girls. I'm talking about going days without showering and brushing my teeth in gas station restrooms. I still don't know how I did that with so many young sluts. I think I knew it couldn't get any worse for me so I truly didn't give a fuck when I was horny.

stein - I dont think I should be anyone's hero haha. I don't deserve anyone's respect because I'm nobody special yet. I would say the same thing if I woke up with a billion dollars under my mattress. I was just having bad luck and was to much of a hardhead to swallow my pride and ask someone for help. I hate begging and swallowing my pride. I never tell anyone about this but like Mixx said, this forum is kind of like therapy sometimes. That was the lowest point of my life and I had to literally break down outside a homeless shelter before I came up with a game plan. I used to have to decide if I should get a motel room for a night or keep the money to last all week for food.

As for girls, I was just running in the streets 24/7 so I was talking to girls all the time. No one would of guessed I had no where to sleep at night, because I look so young and I'm an attractive guy. I would tell myself that I need to try extra hard to fuck the girl at her place so I can shower and get some food in my belly. Shit, I remember staying at a shelter for a while and fucking a volunteer girl. Younger girls really don't give a fuck about your money if you're a good looking guy who gets them to laugh. Fuck all that pony tailed PUA Sasha type shit. Get girls to laugh and you can make a lot of magic happen.

I could of called a family member or went to their house, but I was so embarassed and disgusted with myself for falling off so hard. I didn't want anyone to see me in that shape. Makes me mad when I read about idiots who want to experience how it is to be homeless. They camp outside for a night and bring canned foods haha. It's a lot more fun when you have your cell phone waiting and a warm bed to hop into the next day. I won't ever let myself fall off again. I worked way to hard and already paid my dues.

Post: #19

The American cartoonist Ted Rall published an autobiographical graphic novel in 2009--with illustrations by Pablo G. Callejo, not by Rall--titled The Year of Loving Dangerously, which gives an account of how back in the eighties Rall spent a year in a situation quite similar to the one houston is describing, after a very unusual health problem forced him to leave his undergraduate engineering program at Columbia University. The book is fascinating, entertaining, and appalling all at the same time.

Rall seems to have been a fairly physically attractive "natural" back then; but still there was a certain amount of untutored game involved in his conquests, which (as was the case with houston) he often depended on not just for pleasure but as a significant source of shelter and food as well.

Post: #20

My experience today made me think of this thread.

I have a massive sinus infection. I look like absolute shit...bloodshot eyes, red nose, mucousy appearance. Even my hair looks sick. Needless to say I'm not in the best of moods either. Walking around today, first to the doctor, then to the pharmacy, then to Wawa, I'm getting some crazy eye-contact and smiles from chicks. I probably look insane, but these girls were giving flirty smiles and being all giggly when I smiled back.

I think I just invented Sinus Infection Game.

Post: #21

(02-08-2012 12:23 PM)Caligula Wrote:  Asked why she approached him she said "you look like you just don't give a fuck".

I think that´s the whole secret.
I´ve banged a few chicks when going out at night without showering and wearing only shorts and a wife beater.
I´ve also gotten mad eye contact wearing gym clothes (after the workout) and covered with sweat at the grocery store.

Conversely, I had on occasion really bad nights when i was looking and dressing my best.

Post: #22

Houston - Would love to hear some of your stories.. some more details / FRs/ LRs.. of super COLD pickups from the street to her place for sex, food & some place to sleep. I'm damn curious to hear these stories..

(02-08-2012 10:45 PM)houston Wrote:  On the cool...I was homeless years ago, and still managed to get numbers and fuck girls. I'm talking about going days without showering and brushing my teeth in gas station restrooms. I still don't know how I did that with so many young sluts. I think I knew it couldn't get any worse for me so I truly didn't give a fuck when I was horny.

(02-09-2012 12:34 AM)DirkDiggler Wrote:  A few weeks ago I went out, ended up going to this broads house. Buddy picks me up and we immediately start boozing again. Didn't change my clothes, shower, brush my teeth, nothing from the night before. Just didn't give a flying fuck. Went out again and pulled another one, waaaay hotter than the girl before. No clue how or why, but I always wonder what the 2nd girl would have done if I told her I didn't shower and slept with someone else the night before as she was sucking me off.

(02-09-2012 09:50 PM)violão Wrote:  MrXY, I definitely feel you there. My best friend pulled the best tail of his life when he was broke, unemployed, grew a ratty ass beard, and smelled like garlic and tequila all the time. The guy was my hero.

One instance comes to mind for me though--when I was in college, it was like the last week of finals and everyone was going out and getting wrecked every night as kind of a last hurrah of junior year. I had a wicked cold and nasty sore throat, I felt like utter shit and my breath fucking reeked from all the mucous dripping down the back of my nose.

I was kind of wandering around this trashy dance bar in a stuffy haze, polishing off my second or third glass of Jose when I spied some cute blonde dancing near the fan in the corner. Wanting to cool off myself, I ambled over to her and busted out some weak ass moves for my own amusement, and she was totally feeling it and stuck to my crotch for the rest of the night. It didn't take much for me to bring her home and get some of the worst head of my life. My roommate and another couple of guys who struck out that night tried to snake her from me, but she wouldn't budge. I certainly did not give a fuck that night.

(02-09-2012 10:20 PM)houston Wrote:  

(02-09-2012 01:51 AM)stein Wrote:  You're my hero houston! This is a prime example of courage from within and I personally can't imagine how hard this must've been. You should really discuss this experience.

I don't recommend becoming homeless, but if a guy without a roof on his head can slay left and right then i need to dig deeper and step up. Respect man.

(02-08-2012 10:45 PM)houston Wrote:  On the cool...I was homeless years ago, and still managed to get numbers and fuck girls. I'm talking about going days without showering and brushing my teeth in gas station restrooms. I still don't know how I did that with so many young sluts. I think I knew it couldn't get any worse for me so I truly didn't give a fuck when I was horny.

stein - I dont think I should be anyone's hero haha. I don't deserve anyone's respect because I'm nobody special yet. I would say the same thing if I woke up with a billion dollars under my mattress. I was just having bad luck and was to much of a hardhead to swallow my pride and ask someone for help. I hate begging and swallowing my pride. I never tell anyone about this but like Mixx said, this forum is kind of like therapy sometimes. That was the lowest point of my life and I had to literally break down outside a homeless shelter before I came up with a game plan. I used to have to decide if I should get a motel room for a night or keep the money to last all week for food.

As for girls, I was just running in the streets 24/7 so I was talking to girls all the time. No one would of guessed I had no where to sleep at night, because I look so young and I'm an attractive guy. I would tell myself that I need to try extra hard to fuck the girl at her place so I can shower and get some food in my belly. Shit, I remember staying at a shelter for a while and fucking a volunteer girl. Younger girls really don't give a fuck about your money if you're a good looking guy who gets them to laugh. Fuck all that pony tailed PUA Sasha type shit. Get girls to laugh and you can make a lot of magic happen.

I could of called a family member or went to their house, but I was so embarassed and disgusted with myself for falling off so hard. I didn't want anyone to see me in that shape. Makes me mad when I read about idiots who want to experience how it is to be homeless. They camp outside for a night and bring canned foods haha. It's a lot more fun when you have your cell phone waiting and a warm bed to hop into the next day. I won't ever let myself fall off again. I worked way to hard and already paid my dues.

Post: #23

Ill try to think of some tonight when I'm home. What is LR and FR?

I was sick as a dog a few days ago and had 3 girls approach me at school! I felt like shit and know I looked all oily and tired. I had to blow them off, because I just wanted to go home and sleep.

Post: #24

I wonder there some kind of 'body to body' sexual healing that happens if/ when you are sick? I've experienced that with an LTR..?

Is it that.. combined with not wanting.. that makes them want to come & HEAL you? Cause' you'd think they want to stay away from the sick/ germs..?