Post: #151

Gah, had three good number closes last night, one with a really playful Taiwanese nurse. Today is flake day. That mini-harem collapsed ridiculously quickly

I might go to the ex-pat bar and find easier women :O. Or go to the student night at lava. Hmmmm.....

Post: #152

Had a shooting date lined up for today. Received this text about 20 minutes ago:

Her: I don't think I'm going to make it tonight the weather here is really bad. rain check?

Trying rationalize whether or not to respond? Any thoughts out there guys?

Post: #153

Could be a shit test.

What's the weather actually like?

Post: #154

It's actually pretty shitty. Was thinking of either going radio silent or texting "ok." Willing to give her another chance before I next her. She lives about 30 miles away.

Post: #155

I've been getting a ridiculously high percentage of flakes from online prospects over the last couple of weeks. Here's a sample:

- no-show, 24 hours after setting the date (and her seemingly enthusiastic about it).
- no-show after setting the date 48 hours prior. Her excuse after me texting "I guess you're not coming" 30 mins after she was due to meet me was "you didn't text me on the day to confirm". Bullshit reason, as we had confirmed 100% all the details previously.
- "Finishing work later than expected, can't make it sorry".
- "I can't come on Saturday night, I have 2 birthday parties to go to". Meanwhile, the date had been set 3 days prior, as in, her schedule was clear then.
- "I just remembered it's my Aunties birthday". Reschedule for tomorrow night, I confirm if ok via text (since I was burnt with the earlier chick). Her response, "Sorry, I have the flu". Fucking bullshit you do.

There's a bit of a catch-22 with setting up dates online though.

I push for a date fairly quickly after getting a response from them (maybe after 5 or 6 messages back and forth), and I'll generally set it for 2 or 3 days time.

I do this so I can meet and establish a connection, as I know that texting/messaging does little in that regard...but, I think there must be a threshold where they at least have a little bit of investment (or adequate comfort built) in following through with the date.

Also, I'm pushing for a date quickly because I know that their inbox would be blowing up. This, in itself is a problem as I reckon that these women agree to a date, then get distracted with all the other doods hitting them up, and because you're just a pic (yes, I have good pic's btw) and profile to them, there's next to no care factor or remorse.

I'm feeling that getting a girl to show up to a "date" is about as certain as getting a response to a "number" these days - not very.

I may start delaying going for the date (and just shoot the shit a bit more over text), see if I have a greater success rate then.

Post: #156

Send them all dick pics.

What else can you do?

Post: #157

MHaes flaked on me.

Post: #158

Getting flaked on right now. Chick even rogered up this afternoon. Fuck it, I'm road tripping to Vegas then San Diego tomorrow. Mahalo!

Post: #159

Got flaked on this evening by out of towner saying she was hung over.

Not upset at all as I was probably going to cancel myself. Not even worried if I see her again, as I have a couple plates spinning in my own town. Only reason for going is one of my boys is trying to crack her friend, and I thought I'd put in a good word by banging her into next year.

However, I've already got the notch, so it's not a priority.

Post: #160

gf was being a complete cunt so I put her in time out for a couple weeks.

Hit up cute mexican girl from a class last semester to go on a hike and she sounded enthusiastic.

Texted her today to go and she said cant blahblahblah hamester bs blahblah.

I just got flaked on

Post: #161

I was about to go on a trip not to far where I live , just me and this chick I met a while ago. She just vanished off the planet. Meh, next one!

Post: #162

Met pretty good looking Russian girl late Saturday night - texted her late Sunday, instant response, good rapport, set a date for Wednesday (today).

So I SMS her last night to confirm about meeting around 7 - no response. So I think "bad sign, probably a flake, she's canceling". I just assume it's off and sure enough she writes back an hour before the meet up today that she can't do it tonight.

Think this is pretty much dead and a standard flake, but wanted to see what people think. I certainly am not going to SMS her back anytime soon...might restart Friday night and say "I'm at XYZ bar come join me."

Thoughts?

I hate it when very promising initial responses turn into flakes!!

Post: #163

By now, I never move from wherever I am to a date without beforehand confirmation. I always send a message 30-40 mins before, planning logistics so I can take a detour to plan B or go my flat if I am driving.

Other option is that I send the message in my couch 40 mins before, with movies, ps3 and beers ready. If there is no reponse within 10 mins, I assume the flake and continue my day without incident.

In my pre red pill days, flakes made me furious and I thought about the fact for days. By now, I know it is part of the modern dating market. The downside is increasingly worrying cynicism.

Post: #164

(01-22-2014 11:25 AM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  By now, I never move from wherever I am to a date without beforehand confirmation. I always send a message 30-40 mins before, planning logistics so I can take a detour to plan B or go my flat if I am driving.

Other option is that I send the message in my couch 40 mins before, with movies, ps3 and beers ready. If there is no reponse within 10 mins, I assume the flake and continue my day without incident.

In my pre red pill days, flakes made me furious and I thought about the fact for days. By now, I know it is part of the modern dating market. The downside is increasingly worrying cynicism.

For the record I do this automatically too now. I had already assumed it was off and broken off contact (i.e. not follow up today, she got my message yesterday for sure). I was actually a bit surprised she bothered to email me (less than an hour before we were supposed to meet up).

Just a bit of a weird disengagement but hey, that's what women do. Oh well.

Post: #165

OKC girl. Good back and forth banter in app for about 12 messages (about a hypothetical Target date, based on her profile and I actually do like doing odd shit for day 1's like Target, book store, etc.). Got the number, texted a bit back and forth to set up the meeting three days later. She kinda shit tested toward the end when I sent "Thursday @3, my Target" with a "Don't tell me what to do" but then three minutes later she sent a "fine, I'll be there" message. Was still kinda terse and bitchy so I just ignored and then waited until today at lunch to call for confirmation. Left VM, no response via text or call. But the Target is down the street from both my work and my apartment, so fuck it I went anyway cuz I hate shit to buy.

I'll follow up next week and, if given apology, may give her another shot. Otherwise, will add to the pond list when I need to fish a last minute prospect.

Post: #166

Had a date lined up fore a beer, she's a teacher and apparently she got sick.

No hard feeling because i was sick last week (it's very cold in Mtl right now) and it's believable but i don't like wasting a night or an erection.

Post: #167

I got flaked on Sun. from a girl who initiated convo with me and seemed quite interested in me. she gave some excuse of her getting back from the gym and having no water (after leaving for the gym with no hot water - duh, wtf?). She wanted to reschedule this week.

me:"Sorry to hear about that, but I can't this week."
her: "ok, maybe next weekend?"
me: I'll be out of town...
her: something fun I hope Maybe when you get back?
me: *radio silence until Wed*
me: Have you decided how you're going to make it up to me?
her: Surprised to hear from you, thought maybe you thought I was blowing you off since I didn't hear from you. I wasn't by the way.
me: no response.

So during the week hooked up with another chick and have a another for tonight. And then this one flaked.

Is it bitch flake week?

Wasn't really bothered since I have other options. About 30 mins after that flake, the first girl txted me.
her: But maybe I could start making it up to you by buying your a drink?

Game on, though I still think she'll flake. But it will be at my bar where I'll be watching the game anyways (she wants to learn hockey).

Listening to the words here from other threads, I won't respond to the chick from tonight's flake.

Thanks for the advice gentleman.

Post: #168

Nowadays, I just assume the flake. Always have a backup plan. Either that, or plan your date in a way that won't affect you if she bail last minute. Have her meet you at your place or a place you would be going to anyway whether you had a date planned or not.

One of the most common flakes is a girl being busy or working so much. All girls work 7 days a week, 16 hour shifts. Duh. Lately I've been responding to obvious flakes with general aloofness/non-response.

I have tried restart texts before with a neg like "What's up flaky Mcgee" or something of that nature. I would get responses but never led to plans.

Last summer I had this girl (who I had known since highschool) flake on me countless times trying to make plans after work. Typical "I work 6 days a week"/"getting out late"/"have to help my mom with something" general bullshit. One day she has me come to her place and she ends up blowing me on her couch, then I went home. Tried to make plans again and nothing but flake. Meh. She gave great head, though. Bummer.

Post: #169

I got flaked on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday this week by three different girls. All gave the same shit excuse ... illness and being busy.

Despite my best efforts it really pisses me off and I end up calling them out on it. Need to tighten up my game in that respect.

Post: #170

Got flaked on by two girls whom I was planning to take out with me last night to a hookah bar. So it was pretty much it was just me and my close friend.

Post: #171

(03-13-2014 05:07 PM)Scuba_Instructor Wrote:  I got flaked on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday this week by three different girls. All gave the same shit excuse ... illness and being busy.

Despite my best efforts it really pisses me off and I end up calling them out on it. Need to tighten up my game in that respect.

Radio silence is better than any "bitching out" you can possibly convey. Others can probably expound on the reasons why, but there's plenty of knowledge in these forums that explain why saying nothing will, at a minimum, keep the playing field level, if not give you an advantage moving forward.

Post: #172

Got flaked yesterday.
Texted the "I'll be late" text to make sure she won't flake, she texted the she's forgot and sick and working and blah blah blah blah blah.
Ignored her, few minutes later she texted that she still want to meet someday else.

I'll probably try to make plans again, as I have no plans for next Wednesday yet.

Post: #173

Hey guys, this is my first post here as I'm looking towards getting this part of my life under control (Game).

Was flaked recently off Tinder from this good looking 27-year old (I'm 22 btw). She gave me her number after I attempted a re-opener when the initial post wasn't responded to after a week. "Too early for playing hard-to-get"

I set up the date quickly and start negging on her name through text (If she wasn't already planning to flake, this is where I know I fucked up). When setting the date up, I used the "if you end up being an axe murderer we can just be friends" line. She responded in kind, so I thought "it was on" and responded again saying they better not go for the face. A few hours before the date, she has a "Friend's Birthday party come up" and she said I was free to join if I wanted to.

Just replied, "Hey, no worries. We'll do it some other time!" knowing it was done. She was pretty attractive, so I almost knew it was inevitable, but never feels good.

Post: #174

I've been flaked on by a few chicks, accepting it comes with the online territory. Mostly the younger ones who are really enthusiastic to start but lose attention/interest quickly.

One chick flaked on me for our first date, cancelling 3 hours before. I wrote her off but she seemed genuinely sorry and wanting to make it up to me. We got together a few days later and made out the entire time.

She just flaked again, with almost no notice. I'd already decided I wasn't going to invest any more effort into her, and had made alternate plans anyways. She texted me today, "Maybe we should try again when we live closer (I'm moving out her way in a couple of months), I just have so little free time between work and school".

So she doesn't drive. I haven't asked why yet. But it makes it a pain in the ass getting together. She also lives with her parents, so the only way I'll get to fuck her is if I essentially pick her up and drive the 20mins out my way.

I think there's a chance I could still turn her into a fuckbuddy depending on how I handle it, any tips on how to respond?

Post: #175

(03-22-2014 11:29 AM)sox Wrote:  I think there's a chance I could still turn her into a fuckbuddy depending on how I handle it, any tips on how to respond?

How old are you and how old is she? She may not even have her driver's license. I have a 23 year old cousin who doesn't even have her license because she is scared to drive...weird, weird girl.

If I was you, I wouldn't respond. Put her on the back burner and send a few texts every once and a while for you to keep her on your radar. After you move, re-engage and then see if her attitude changes.