Post: #51

I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

Post: #52

(07-22-2012 05:07 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Cool Perseus, well I could do with a wingman, all of my friends have girlfriends.

Yes men in W Ukraine at least are pretty passive, you can approach a table of girls with guys and they will let you go about your work without any resistance. Chances are you will be bigger than them anyway, W Ukrainians are usually very skinny and weak or fat and docile.

At the end of the day I think their attitude is that there are lots of girls to go round, so they don't care if you take some of their girls. They also do not pursue SNL very hard, they know it will come to them, if not they have many others on the back burner,

I cannot speak for the rest of the Ukraine, as I have only been to Kiev. I suppose the further east you go the more Russian they are, and Russians are not as passive

I'm against relationships/LTR, so i'm good with wingman position.

The only thing i'm over thinking is how my Toronto-based game will run there, and whether i will have to change style or not.

Kiev is my primary destination actually, then Odessa and maybe Ivano-Frankivsk (Stanislau) as i have contacts there.

Post: #53

(07-22-2012 04:09 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  For example a guy who operates in a Serbian environment like this:





Is called to an ukrainian environment like this.





You see the difference in ukranian girls attitude.How much softer,smoother they are compared to Serbian ones.Also the lower level of energy and the obviously worse appearance of the local guys compared to Serbian.The Ukrainian girls give mostly the impression that you can buy them which is not true for Serbian ones who have natural pride.

Although i really like watching vids like this, you can't be serious when you base an opinion on hip hop videos. Of course the guy looks like a complete boss with big cars,jewelry and hot girls around him. Even a dirty begger would look cool with those variables.

Post: #54

(07-22-2012 05:27 AM)Perseus Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:07 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Cool Perseus, well I could do with a wingman, all of my friends have girlfriends.

Yes men in W Ukraine at least are pretty passive, you can approach a table of girls with guys and they will let you go about your work without any resistance. Chances are you will be bigger than them anyway, W Ukrainians are usually very skinny and weak or fat and docile.

At the end of the day I think their attitude is that there are lots of girls to go round, so they don't care if you take some of their girls. They also do not pursue SNL very hard, they know it will come to them, if not they have many others on the back burner,

I cannot speak for the rest of the Ukraine, as I have only been to Kiev. I suppose the further east you go the more Russian they are, and Russians are not as passive

I'm against relationships/LTR, so i'm good with wingman position.

The only thing i'm over thinking is how my Toronto-based game will run there, and whether i will have to change style or not.

Kiev is my primary destination actually, then Odessa and maybe Ivano-Frankivsk (Stanislau) as i have contacts there.

Forget game in Ukraine, you are wasting your breath, you have nothing to worry about. You just need to say smile and say hello most of the time. Yes Kiev is the best place to visit for SNL, I love Kiev girls, but I prefer to live in Lvov as it's a better city to live for me, everything is within 10 minutes walk of my apartment. Also I have become a local celebrity here, everyone know's me, and i value the notoriety.

Kiev is only 6 hours away on the fast train, I always get laid in Kiev, I make sure i pipeline before I go.

Post: #55

(07-22-2012 05:23 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

You can check out this Facebook page which has pics from many of Belgrade's nightclubs, will give you an idea of the girls and the competition

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Spot-B...2383809113

There is a place on there called "Central Park", an outdoor bar opposite Kalemegdan park in the centre. Full of beautiful women, I went there with some good looking guys, we were unable to do anything as it's all groups....make damn sure you make Serbian friends, then it becomes a whole different ball game, they are suddenly very interested in you

Post: #56

(07-22-2012 05:59 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:23 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

You can check out this Facebook page which has pics from many of Belgrade's nightclubs, will give you an idea of the girls and the competition

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Spot-B...2383809113

I think that Facebook page is a perfect chance for you to point out this Balkan power you speak of. I and I think a lot lot of others here want to see this Balkan power you and Greek kamaki speak so highly of.

Please point out 10 pictures with this typical Balkan power style.There are tons of party pics in that Facebook album. I just see dudes/people who go out and enjoy themselves like in any other country. The girls are unbelievably hot, i give you that.

PS, I have seen the massive dude dressed in black so don't bother posting that picture. That's only one strong dude and every clubbing area in the world has a strong dude walking around.

Post: #57

If Deb woke up tomorrow in the body of a 5'6" Asian guy, would he be pulling to the same degree? If not, his looks are a huge crutch.

And as much as every player should max out his looks, height and race (arguably the two most critical factors in cold approach game) cannot be changed.

Post: #58

(07-22-2012 06:12 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:59 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:23 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

You can check out this Facebook page which has pics from many of Belgrade's nightclubs, will give you an idea of the girls and the competition

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Spot-B...2383809113

I think that Facebook page is a perfect chance for you to point out this Balkan power you speak of. I and I think a lot lot of others here want to see this Balkan power you and Greek kamaki speak so highly of.

Please point out 10 pictures with this typical Balkan power style.There are tons of party pics in that Facebook album. I just see dudes/people who go out and enjoy themselves like in any other country. The girls are unbelievably hot, i give you that.

PS, I have seen the massive dude dressed in black so don't bother posting that picture. That's only one strong dude and every clubbing area in the world has a strong dude walking around.

You can do the searching yourself, go back a bit if need be. I'm going to have a nap, I need to recharge my Balkan power for later.

Post: #59

(07-22-2012 05:23 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

Just ask roosh how many girls the local Croats pull in Hvar and what he thinks of them as competition relative to Poles.Also where aggression and energy levels are higher in Croatia or Poland.

Post: #60

(07-22-2012 06:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:12 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:59 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:23 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

You can check out this Facebook page which has pics from many of Belgrade's nightclubs, will give you an idea of the girls and the competition

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Spot-B...2383809113

I think that Facebook page is a perfect chance for you to point out this Balkan power you speak of. I and I think a lot lot of others here want to see this Balkan power you and Greek kamaki speak so highly of.

Please point out 10 pictures with this typical Balkan power style.There are tons of party pics in that Facebook album. I just see dudes/people who go out and enjoy themselves like in any other country. The girls are unbelievably hot, i give you that.

PS, I have seen the massive dude dressed in black so don't bother posting that picture. That's only one strong dude and every clubbing area in the world has a strong dude walking around.

You can do the searching yourself, go back a bit if need be. I'm going to have a nap, I need to recharge my Balkan power for later.

Taking a nap? This is your chance to show us the infamous Balkan power.
Clearly you're avoiding the subject here and fail to prove your Balkan powers to the rest of us. Why? It isn't hard to single out 10 pictures out of hundreds

Post: #61

Quote:You just need to say smile and say hello most of the time.

Kinda sad that Deb is just a variation of troll #3... /thread-5522.html

His posts are getting reported lately and he's not contributing value to the forum.

Post: #62

Like I have mentioned before Roosh, I stick mainly to this travel forum as I do not use game.

I have layed down lots of information about the places I have been to

Post: #63

This shouldn't be a forum to just come and show off. I don't even bother reading his posts anymore.

(07-22-2012 07:57 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:You just need to say smile and say hello most of the time.

Kinda sad that Deb is just a variation of troll #3... /thread-5522.html

His posts are getting reported lately and he's not contributing value to the forum.

Post: #64

(07-22-2012 07:24 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:12 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:59 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:23 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  I cannot wait my visit to Serbia. You can be sure that I'll verify the Kamaki's 'Sebian/Balkan power' bullshit theory. Cuz right now it sounds cheesy as hell to me. Every damn post is about the godlike Serbs, and on that clip i ve seen nothing but a redneck with money. I'll check out if they are so tough

You can check out this Facebook page which has pics from many of Belgrade's nightclubs, will give you an idea of the girls and the competition

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Spot-B...2383809113

I think that Facebook page is a perfect chance for you to point out this Balkan power you speak of. I and I think a lot lot of others here want to see this Balkan power you and Greek kamaki speak so highly of.

Please point out 10 pictures with this typical Balkan power style.There are tons of party pics in that Facebook album. I just see dudes/people who go out and enjoy themselves like in any other country. The girls are unbelievably hot, i give you that.

PS, I have seen the massive dude dressed in black so don't bother posting that picture. That's only one strong dude and every clubbing area in the world has a strong dude walking around.

You can do the searching yourself, go back a bit if need be. I'm going to have a nap, I need to recharge my Balkan power for later.

Taking a nap? This is your chance to show us the infamous Balkan power.
Clearly you're avoiding the subject here and fail to prove your Balkan powers to the rest of us. Why? It isn't hard to single out 10 pictures out of hundreds

As Kamaki says Balkan power needs to be experienced, a picture just tells one part of the story.

Post: #65

(07-22-2012 08:11 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 07:24 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:12 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 05:59 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  You can check out this Facebook page which has pics from many of Belgrade's nightclubs, will give you an idea of the girls and the competition

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Spot-B...2383809113

I think that Facebook page is a perfect chance for you to point out this Balkan power you speak of. I and I think a lot lot of others here want to see this Balkan power you and Greek kamaki speak so highly of.

Please point out 10 pictures with this typical Balkan power style.There are tons of party pics in that Facebook album. I just see dudes/people who go out and enjoy themselves like in any other country. The girls are unbelievably hot, i give you that.

PS, I have seen the massive dude dressed in black so don't bother posting that picture. That's only one strong dude and every clubbing area in the world has a strong dude walking around.

You can do the searching yourself, go back a bit if need be. I'm going to have a nap, I need to recharge my Balkan power for later.

Taking a nap? This is your chance to show us the infamous Balkan power.
Clearly you're avoiding the subject here and fail to prove your Balkan powers to the rest of us. Why? It isn't hard to single out 10 pictures out of hundreds

As Kamaki says Balkan power needs to be experienced, a picture just tells one part of the story.

Sure, whatever you say. You had your chance of proving your theory but just evade the challenge and come up with an excuse. Normally you and Greek kamaki say how muscular and scary looking the Balkan people are and now it's suddenly something that needs to be experienced.

You guys are hyping up the Balkan guys constantly with Hip Hop video examples.
It would be like me saying Dutch guys are the best gaming when hot girls and say it's because Dutch people are the tallest in the world.

Post: #66

Delete

Post: #67

I have made an audio recording here in the cafe with my Italian friend. I will upload when I get home, will give another perspective on things.

Post: #68

(07-22-2012 08:23 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 08:11 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 07:24 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:12 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I think that Facebook page is a perfect chance for you to point out this Balkan power you speak of. I and I think a lot lot of others here want to see this Balkan power you and Greek kamaki speak so highly of.

Please point out 10 pictures with this typical Balkan power style.There are tons of party pics in that Facebook album. I just see dudes/people who go out and enjoy themselves like in any other country. The girls are unbelievably hot, i give you that.

PS, I have seen the massive dude dressed in black so don't bother posting that picture. That's only one strong dude and every clubbing area in the world has a strong dude walking around.

You can do the searching yourself, go back a bit if need be. I'm going to have a nap, I need to recharge my Balkan power for later.

Taking a nap? This is your chance to show us the infamous Balkan power.
Clearly you're avoiding the subject here and fail to prove your Balkan powers to the rest of us. Why? It isn't hard to single out 10 pictures out of hundreds

As Kamaki says Balkan power needs to be experienced, a picture just tells one part of the story.

Sure, whatever you say. You had your chance of proving your theory but just evade the challenge and come up with an excuse. Normally you and Greek kamaki say how muscular and scary looking the Balkan people are and now it's suddenly something that needs to be experienced.

You guys are hyping up the Balkan guys constantly with Hip Hop video examples.
It would be like me saying Dutch guys are the best gaming when hot girls and say it's because Dutch people are the tallest in the world.

Exactly.What you mentioned is actually the biggest advantage Dutch guys have over other Western Europeans.
Every nationality has a strong point which they try to promote.For others is money(Americans),for others style(Italians),for others muscles or whatever.My guess is that an Italian guy would tell you that fashion,shoes,style and haircut are the most important factors in getting girls.

Post: #69

(07-22-2012 09:33 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 08:23 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 08:11 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 07:24 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-22-2012 06:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  You can do the searching yourself, go back a bit if need be. I'm going to have a nap, I need to recharge my Balkan power for later.

Taking a nap? This is your chance to show us the infamous Balkan power.
Clearly you're avoiding the subject here and fail to prove your Balkan powers to the rest of us. Why? It isn't hard to single out 10 pictures out of hundreds

As Kamaki says Balkan power needs to be experienced, a picture just tells one part of the story.

Sure, whatever you say. You had your chance of proving your theory but just evade the challenge and come up with an excuse. Normally you and Greek kamaki say how muscular and scary looking the Balkan people are and now it's suddenly something that needs to be experienced.

You guys are hyping up the Balkan guys constantly with Hip Hop video examples.
It would be like me saying Dutch guys are the best gaming when hot girls and say it's because Dutch people are the tallest in the world.

Exactly.What you mentioned is actually the biggest advantage Dutch guys have over other Western Europeans.
Every nationality has a strong point which they try to promote.For others is money(Americans),for others style(Italians),for others muscles or whatever.My guess is that an Italian guy would tell you that fashion,shoes,style and haircut are the most important factors in getting girls.

And what advantage do Greeks have?

Post: #70

Greeks have the sly gay thinking(poustiko).We always think in shrewd ways never linear.I think this confuses girls enough to develop mass deception.The Greek will give some indirect signals that he is rich without him being actually so.He is also an experienced liar (he lies in your face keeping calm and about even the most obvious of things where he gets caught.This is not a feature of other nationalities although I have seem some Turks with similar tendencies but they are way more primitive).

Post: #71

There seems to be a tons of generalization about nationalities on these Eastern Europe threads.

Dutch guys are always like A.

Italian guys are always like B.

Side note:

What the f*ck is Balkan Power?

Found this on Balkan Power online:





Is that what you guys are talking about?

Post: #72

(07-22-2012 10:52 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  There seems to be a tons of generalization about nationalities on these Eastern Europe threads.

Dutch guys are always like A.

Italian guys are always like B.

Side note:

What the f*ck is Balkan Power?

Found this on Balkan Power online:





Is that what you guys are talking about?

Balkan power is wiggers?

No but for real, it seems like Balkan Power means that people are scared of them because they're taller and bigger. They can intimidate and get their way because of their size. Yeah, sounds retarded doesn't it.

Post: #73

(07-22-2012 07:57 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:You just need to say smile and say hello most of the time.

Kinda sad that Deb is just a variation of troll #3... /thread-5522.html

His posts are getting reported lately and he's not contributing value to the forum.

Either that or he has supermagnetic powers of attraction that no mere mortals can resist. I'm not counting out the possibility, but I think most guys here are looking for practical, useful first-hand information and all this generalizing about different races and the forces of balkan power is nothing more than worthless sermonizing.

Post: #74

(07-22-2012 07:57 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:You just need to say smile and say hello most of the time.

Kinda sad that Deb is just a variation of troll #3... /thread-5522.html

His posts are getting reported lately and he's not contributing value to the forum.

The guy who I told this to confirmed he was a tall good looking dude, so the truth is that that is all he needs to do. You said yourself Roosh that game is a waste of time in Ukraine. Your speaking Pigeon English to most of these girls anywhere, keep it simple.

Here is some bullshit conversation I had in the Cafe today with my friend, not very interesting but I think he confirms in there somewhere that it's a paradise here. He's Italian, average looks, but has a nice blonde girlfriend and plenty of other girls he has met through social circles that he could be fucking.

http://soundcloud.com/debauchery-2/voice0009

Post: #75

Balkan power is a state of tension and constant explosiveness translated into intimidating macho appearance often with threatening postures in heavily guarded environment.It is a wish for control and its implications causing a series of conflicts.In cases of girls it creates macho girls with attitude and Queen complexes who are used to overmasculine protective men.
This tension does not exist outside Balkans.In case of Scandinavia there is the Viking superiority(Viking power they are tough,cold and always winning) in case of Germany it is the free barbarian state of rules where rules about everything consistently compromise and minimize your actions.