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Been living in Quito, Ecuador the last few years because I´ve been investing in real estate and done pretty well(also my mother was from here). In the time I have been here, I have come to the conclusion that the worst women in the Americas are Ecuadorian or American. That is why i try to go to Colombia or Brazil as often as I can. Im sure some Americans or Europeans, who have done well and stayed a short while here, will disagree with me. But my conclusion is that Ecuadorian women are the worst. This is especially true if you are Latin or have stayed here for awhile.
My reasons for this conclusion:

1) For most guys living in Ecuador, most girls are not easy lays and they almost always try to act coy and aloof, even if you have game, that is until you fuck them.....usually by the 3rd date, if you do things right. Compare that to the American slut that will fuck you the first night if your game is tight.

2) Most Ecuadorian women are ugly. The average girl is not as ugly as in Bolivia and is similar to Peru (though the average in Peru is a bit better). The 15 percent that are hot are the young middle to upper class girls. If you think skinny American girls have many beta orbiters and white knights....multiply that by 2 for the skinny cute girl here. Any decent looking girl has been treated as a princess since birth and has been taught to get as much out of men as possible. Almost all decent looking girls, that I have banged here, have told me stories about how many guys have cried in front of them because she has rejected her advances or broken up with him.

3) Ecuadorian women (and the people in general) are the biggest liars and flakers on earth. Many guys on this forum complain about how bad Colombian women can be in this department, but Ecuadorian women are worse. When I first came here, I remember a girl who called me to say that she was waiting at a bar close to where I live. Got there in 5 minutes and didnt see here. Called her a few times and she said she had left to buy something nearby. Waited 30 minutes, got angry and called the bitch out. Then with all my pressure, she finally admitted she had stayed home and lied about being at the bar. This happened a few other times but I learned my lesson and called the bitches out. In contrast, in Colombia or the USA, if a girl flakes she wont answer the phone or contact you. Here in Ecuador some girls like to flat out make a game out of it.

4) Most Ecuadorian girls have ugly bodies. Admittedly, the obesity epedemic has not reached the level of America. Nonetheless, there are a lot of chubby girls and the ones who look like they are skinny are never toned or work out. Most of the decent looking women have a bit of love handles and it is a rarity that a woman will wow you when she is naked. In the US, at least there are women(around 20 percent of the population) who go to the gym and have sexy bodies.
Alot of girls in Ecuador have no asses whatsover. Finally, any girl who is a flaca(truly skinny) is worshipped like an idol here.

5) Ecuadorian women have the worst attitude of any in the Americas. They feel just as entitled as in America, never cook, dress sloppy for the most part, devote themselves to getting paper pushing jobs, etc. Most feel, that a man must win them over even if they are mediocre looking. Also, many are "mojigatas", which means they are super hypocritical about their sexuality. To them every other women is a slut, but they have principles and values. Furthermore, they are mediocre in bed...i.e almost never giving unsolicited blowjobs. At least the American slut tries to act like a porn film actress in bed. Finally, feminism and americanization have become more entrenched here than in countries like Brazil, Colombia or Peru

6) Since Ecuadorian dudes are some of the horniest, drunkest and sexually repressed men on earth, it creates an imbalance where the woman thinks she has complete control of her sexuality and when she gives it out. The man has very little say and when she puts out it is a gift she is offering him....and he should be grateful for it.

Contrast all this to a country, like the Dominican Republic, where people and women can be just as shady and deceitful. The difference though, is that you will be plowing many young hot women easily and with no games or very little bullshit. That can make you forget how shitty a country really is.

One final anecdote: Went out with a hot Ecuadorian girl with huge tits, that had lived as a child and teenager in the US and spoke perfect english. We spoke in both english and spanish, but I remember that I only wanted to speak to her in english. I hate having conversations with American cunts, but with this girl her personality and the conversation was much more interesting when she spoke english, like an American girl. When she spoke spanish the Ecuadorian side would come out and I felt like ditching her. Never would have expected that 5 years ago.

Post: #2

Really interesting post chochemonger1. Are women outside of Quito the same as well? Any idea how these women got this attitude to behave like this?

Post: #3

(09-01-2012 10:42 PM)username Wrote:  Really interesting post chochemonger1. Are women outside of Quito the same as well? Any idea how these women got this attitude to behave like this?

It is similar all over the country, but worse in cities like Quito, Cuenca, Ambato, etc. The simple explanation is conservatism taught by their parents and the old school culture mixed with americanization and feminism. It is a horrible mix. Also the amount of lying and thievery in the country translates to how men and women relate to each other. Also too little quality for the amount of demand, from the tons of horny dudes here. So many negative variables add up to women that are the worse in the Americas.

Post: #4

I got my Ecuador flag a few years back off an au pair in Calgary and she pretty much fits the description. At one point in time, I really wanted to go there but after reading Roosh's book, DBIP, I have no desire to go there, Peru or Bolivia.

Post: #5

(09-01-2012 11:50 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Finally, feminism and americanization have become more entrenched here than in countries like Brazil, Colombia or Peru

Interesting post! I know your honesty man! I guess everyone has there own experience. You mentioned Ecuadorian women are more americanized than Colombia, brazil. How so????

Post: #6

(09-04-2012 01:15 AM)jergens007 Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 11:50 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Finally, feminism and americanization have become more entrenched here than in countries like Brazil, Colombia or Peru

Interesting post! I know your honesty man! I guess everyone has there own experience. You mentioned Ecuadorian women are more americanized than Colombia, brazil. How so????

I will give you a couple of reasons. Note: this applies less so to the Ecuadorian women from the coast, but that could be said for Colombia and Brazil too. Also, I have lived here years now and in Colombia and Brazil so I can give a qualified assessment.

1.There are more American fast food places (where a lot of the young girls eat)in the major cities in Ecuador than in those in Colombia and Brazil. This is especially true compared to Colombia. Just came back from Bucaramanga, Colombia and there there was just one Mcdonalds and one Pizza Hut in a city of more than 1 million (No Kfc, burger king, fridays, dunkin donuts, dominos, starbucks, etc).
2. The women take care of their appearance a lot less than in Colombia or Brazil. Similar to American women in how they dress and in their style. Ive had many a first date in Ecuador where the womens nails were not taken care of or colored, their hair was sloppy and short or they dressed unfeminine. That rarely happens in Colombia or Brazil.....where going to the beauty salon and fashion are still major obsessions.
3. Sense of entitlement. On Latin American Cupid or Badoo i get tons of unsolicited emails or IMs from Colombia or the DR. Granted they are not the best quality, but it shows me something. Mediocre women know the value of a good man and put in the effort to try to land one. In Ecuador most mediocre woman(chubby, older, etc) will not do that. She still has many desperate Ecuadorian men after her and feels that even a good man has to win her over.
4. Age differences are way less than in Colombia or Brazil. Young 18 to 24 hotties stick to men 2 or 3 years older, in general. You dont see many 35+ yr old men with 18 to 21 yr old girls like in Brazil or especially Colombia. I wonder where that influence came from haha.
5. Ecuadorian women no longer know how to cook. All are so busy with university and paper pushing jobs, that they no longer care for or want to cook. Never had one offer to cook a meal for me. In Brazil and Colombia, at least a few do anytime I go live there.

Post: #7

I was in Peru for a month.

In short i had the biggest blast of my life to date. I banged 21 chicks in 30 days. May consider writing a datasheet on the entire experience. Although saying that if you dont fit my description i seriously dont know how helpful any of it would be to you.

Before anyone says "but they were all ugly" only 1 chick did i bang who i felt ashamed off, the vast majority being bangable while id say 6 or 7 being what i consider actually hot. Two of them id say were intimidatingly hot as in if i were to look upon them in a nightclub in the UK, id put my chances as nil to actually having a chance of banging them.

Iv never been to Ecuador but what iam wondering is why is it soo different sounding from Peru.

From the authors post, iam assuming hes latin, any gringos who killed in Peru had difficulties there?

Post: #8

(09-04-2012 09:24 AM)Rick91 Wrote:  I was in Peru for a month.

In short i had the biggest blast of my life to date. I banged 21 chicks in 30 days. May consider writing a datasheet on the entire experience. Although saying that if you dont fit my description i seriously dont know how helpful any of it would be to you.

Before anyone says "but they were all ugly" only 1 chick did i bang who i felt ashamed off, the vast majority being bangable while id say 6 or 7 being what i consider actually hot. Two of them id say were intimidatingly hot as in if i were to look upon them in a nightclub in the UK, id put my chances as nil to actually having a chance of banging them.

Iv never been to Ecuador but what iam wondering is why is it soo different sounding from Peru.

From the authors post, iam assuming hes latin, any gringos who killed in Peru had difficulties there.

Rick 91, as has been posted many times in the forum, it is well known that Peru has the most amount of gringo lovers in all of the Americas. It is a pussy paradise, especially for a blond haired blue eyed white guy and I had the same experience in the Philippines as you did in Peru. So if you a white American or European, I would definitely recommend Peru for a month or 2.
In Ecuador things are a bit more contradictory. As I have said, there are about 10 to 15 percent of the young women there who are gringo groupies....but that is nowhere near the level you will find in Peru. So you have to find the right places and venues, where they congregate. For every white guy who has killed it here, there is another who was cockteased, flaked on or lied to, by most ecuadorian women. The first 4 months here I met a tall, blue eyed blond haired, cut and good looking California guy. In that time he banged about 3 or 4 girls, though he got plenty of attention in the clubs. Closing was his problem......but in Peru that would have not been the case for a guy of his characteristics(He had ok game too). Peruvian girls are more open, sexual, cool, less complicated and flaky than their Ecuadorian counterparts, especially to gringos.
So though my conclusion was based more on the long term and not so much on race, I would not recommend Ecuador for the short term or for banging a lot of cute chicks, especially when you have Peru or the Dominican Republic, as other options. The girls are hotter in these 2 other countries and most young women will be receptive to a foreigner. That is not so much the case in Ecuador. Some white guys will tell you that they killed it in Ecuador, but almost everyone will tell you that they did so in Peru or the DR.
Also dont forget Colombia. I do better with them than with Ecuadorian girls, in general, and this is with women who are better looking, sexier and more fun.

Post: #9

Yeah Ecuador sounds pretty shit in comparison.

I knew about the Phillipines but I see you mentioning the Dominican Republic. That place wasnt on my radar. Iam assuming it pales in comparison to peru though.

I think Europes pretty much ruined for me now. On my first eurotrip I was stoked that I hooked up with 3 girls over the course of 3 weeks. Back home that would be brutal for me to.

The only con i found with Peru and what i reckon most men will find with living in a pussy paradise is you just dont appreciate the pussy nearly as much as you would appreciate it back home. If i were to fuck a latina 6 back home i wouldnt be blowing her off for no reason. I guess thats what scarcity does to you.

Post: #10

being right between columbia and peru, i have trouble believing ecuador is a difficult country to get laid in. Maybe it would be a lot easier for a young white dude from america, and not someone who is latin.

Post: #11

I reckon if you found the right venues, you could do damage if your white. I wonder what the Peru of Central America would be?

Post: #12

(09-04-2012 12:51 PM)Rurik Wrote:  being right between columbia and peru, i have trouble believing ecuador is a difficult country to get laid in. Maybe it would be a lot easier for a young white dude from america, and not someone who is latin.

Rurik, it is not so much about getting laid. America is full of easy sluts for the player who knows the game. In America, for example, it is not unheard of, for a decent looking guy with game, banging 100 different girls each year, if he put his mind into it. But still, the consensus in this forum, is that American girls are the bottom of the barrel for many other reasons.
That is what I am trying to tell forum members about girls from Ecuador. I probably have averaged banging 50 different girls, each year I have been (mostly 6s and 7s) ....so I am not doing bad here. I have learned how to deal with and how to get the most from interacting with them.
The point I am trying to make is that, just like American girls, these Ecuatorianas bring alot more bad things to the table than good. Ive laid out many reasons for this, which have not been disputed. The only debate is whether American girls are worse. That might be an argument worth having.
As to getting laid, yes for a white gringo in Ecuador, it is probably easier than Colombia (though for me, as a latino american, it is the opposite). Just as long as you head to the right spots, such as No Bar or Bungalow in Quito, for example, where the gringo groupies concentrate from wednesday to saturday, you will do ok. But with all the negatives I have seen from the girls here, Id rather go live in Buenos Aires and bang only 20 histerica argentinian chicks in a year. Though I know Argentinian girls are low on the totem pole, in terms of ease of banging, Id take 1 hot crazy Argentinian girl any day over 3 decent looking Ecuadorian girls. In the end both are bad options.....so that is why from now on, it is only Brazil, Colombia and the Dominican Republic for me, in the Americas.

Post: #13

(09-04-2012 01:30 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 12:51 PM)Rurik Wrote:  being right between columbia and peru, i have trouble believing ecuador is a difficult country to get laid in. Maybe it would be a lot easier for a young white dude from america, and not someone who is latin.

Rurik, it is not so much about getting laid. America is full of easy sluts for the player who knows the game. In America, for example, it is not unheard of, for a decent looking guy with game, banging 100 different girls each year, if he put his mind into it. But still, the consensus in this forum, is that American girls are the bottom of the barrel for many other reasons.
That is what I am trying to tell forum members about girls from Ecuador. I probably have averaged banging 50 different girls, each year I have been (mostly 6s and 7s) ....so I am not doing bad here. I have learned how to deal with and how to get the most from interacting with them.
The point I am trying to make is that, just like American girls, these Ecuatorianas bring alot more bad things to the table than good. Ive laid out many reasons for this, which have not been disputed. The only debate is whether American girls are worse. That might be an argument worth having.
As to getting laid, yes for a white gringo in Ecuador, it is probably easier than Colombia (though for me, as a latino american, it is the opposite). Just as long as you head to the right spots, such as No Bar or Bungalow in Quito, for example, where the gringo groupies concentrate from wednesday to saturday, you will do ok. But with all the negatives I have seen from the girls here, Id rather go live in Buenos Aires and bang only 20 histerica argentinian chicks in a year. Though I know Argentinian girls are low on the totem pole, in terms of ease of banging, Id take 1 hot crazy Argentinian girl any day over 3 decent looking Ecuadorian girls. In the end both are bad options.....so that is why from now on, it is only Brazil, Colombia and the Dominican Republic for me, in the Americas.

I'm kind of getting tired of the rvf "consensus" to be frank. Bitchy women, that can't cook, and make poor girlfriends are everywhere in the world, as well as good women.

If girls are attracted to you, they treat you better. It's like hearing a chinese dude complain about women in china. For white men, it's clearly different.

Or an older mediterranean looking guy in poland getting love, and feeling that every woman loves american men.

It seems like a lot of generalizations are made on rvf that only apply to certain types of men in certain places.

Post: #14

(09-04-2012 01:52 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 01:30 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 12:51 PM)Rurik Wrote:  being right between columbia and peru, i have trouble believing ecuador is a difficult country to get laid in. Maybe it would be a lot easier for a young white dude from america, and not someone who is latin.

Rurik, it is not so much about getting laid. America is full of easy sluts for the player who knows the game. In America, for example, it is not unheard of, for a decent looking guy with game, banging 100 different girls each year, if he put his mind into it. But still, the consensus in this forum, is that American girls are the bottom of the barrel for many other reasons.
That is what I am trying to tell forum members about girls from Ecuador. I probably have averaged banging 50 different girls, each year I have been (mostly 6s and 7s) ....so I am not doing bad here. I have learned how to deal with and how to get the most from interacting with them.
The point I am trying to make is that, just like American girls, these Ecuatorianas bring alot more bad things to the table than good. Ive laid out many reasons for this, which have not been disputed. The only debate is whether American girls are worse. That might be an argument worth having.
As to getting laid, yes for a white gringo in Ecuador, it is probably easier than Colombia (though for me, as a latino american, it is the opposite). Just as long as you head to the right spots, such as No Bar or Bungalow in Quito, for example, where the gringo groupies concentrate from wednesday to saturday, you will do ok. But with all the negatives I have seen from the girls here, Id rather go live in Buenos Aires and bang only 20 histerica argentinian chicks in a year. Though I know Argentinian girls are low on the totem pole, in terms of ease of banging, Id take 1 hot crazy Argentinian girl any day over 3 decent looking Ecuadorian girls. In the end both are bad options.....so that is why from now on, it is only Brazil, Colombia and the Dominican Republic for me, in the Americas.

I'm kind of getting tired of the rvf "consensus" to be frank. Bitchy women, that can't cook, and make poor girlfriends are everywhere in the world, as well as good women.

If girls are attracted to you, they treat you better. It's like hearing a chinese dude complain about women in china. For white men, it's clearly different.

Or an older mediterranean looking guy in poland getting love, and feeling that every woman loves american men.

It seems like a lot of generalizations are made on rvf that only apply to certain types of men in certain places.

Look rurik......nobody here denies exceptions and we are open to debate. Obviously, Im not talking about every Ecuadorian woman. Just like when Roosh hates on American women, all of us obviously know there are exceptions. But stop with the silly: not everyone has the same experience, we are all unique, there are always exceptions type of arguments. That is how women argue to counter truths. Not with facts or by using reason to counter an argument. If us men thought that way, there would be no reason to write or read a book like Bang Poland or Colombia. All of Rooshs books contain generalized information which is backed up by his experiences and knowledge. To a certain degree when you have an opinion you start with a generalization, which you back up with facts, experiences, other experts thoughts, reasons etc.
I stated a certain conclusion, that I backed up with many facts and reasons. Nobody has disagred with me yet, because most of what I say is true. Now if you rurik disagree with me, lay down some facts and info. Consensus here is reached through dialogue and often through disagreements. That is how we learn new info and it is obvious, to the great majority of us, that when a general consensus is reached (i.e Argentinian girls are hard to bang) it does not apply to all. So rurik start arguing and debating like a man, if you disagree with me or any info posted on this forum.

Post: #15

Rurik, if I started this thread it was to try and help forum members to make an informed choice, about what country they should pick or avoid in South America. Since the travel forum is mainly concerned with banging women, while traveling, that is why I advised against Ecuador. If you are a nature lover or a woman....then yes I would recommend Ecuador.
With so many options available in this world, we also need to hear the negatives or reasons to avoid certain countries. I dont hate this country, it is just that when you know something is better you want others to know. I came here 5 years, where I have deep roots and family through my mother. If there is someone who wanted to love this country it was me. But when I set foot in Colombia and Brazil it was like when I first went to Europe, after spending my first 16 years in that crazy world called America. Your senses and your eyes were open to something way more wonderful.

Post: #16

I have friends in Ecuador who keep asking me to visit. I fired up my Badoo profile and started piping away. I got girls who wanted to bust my balls and grill me. Two days and I was done.

Post: #17

(09-04-2012 03:07 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I have friends in Ecuador who keep asking me to visit. I fired up my Badoo profile and started piping away. I got girls who wanted to bust my balls and grill me. Two days and I was done.

Yes, you got the gist of how it is here real quick mechanico.

Post: #18

I spent almost 2 weeks in ecuador and never hit up Quito. Chochemonger's thread makes me glad that I didn't. I spent most of my time in guayaquil and along the coast. Looking back, I can agree with some of the points he makes about ecuadorian women. Although it seems the costenas are a bit better in most aspects.

Chochemonger, do you have any experience with the ecuadorian morenas? They definitely don't suffer from the flat-ass disease that is prevalent in that country.

Post: #19

(09-04-2012 10:29 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  I spent almost 2 weeks in ecuador and never hit up Quito. Chochemonger's thread makes me glad that I didn't. I spent most of my time in guayaquil and along the coast. Looking back, I can agree with some of the points he makes about ecuadorian women. Although it seems the costenas are a bit better in most aspects.

Chochemonger, do you have any experience with the ecuadorian morenas? They definitely don't suffer from the flat-ass disease that is prevalent in that country.

Yes, girls from Esmeraldas (coastal province) have african blood and are more sexual and open than most other girls in Ecuador. I have been there twice and had fun, but they dont compare to the black girls or mulattas in Brazil or Colombia. The girls can look the same, but something about the culture changes everything.

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Post: #21

(09-06-2012 08:31 PM)bacon Wrote:  hey op are you white or latin because that might have played a role. ive lived in philippines, peru and now mexico all those countries love americans and as a white guy you can kill it there. but of those phil is easiest just because they are soo poor there. when i lived in arequipa peru which was a good time but lots of tourists makes your exotic factor less. so what i did for girls was just head out of the tourist zone to peruvian clubs tourists dont go to. also if i were to return to peru i would head north to like chiclayo or very few tourists. mexican women are great just live in a non tourist city so not cancun or guadaljara so your exotic factor wll shine. women are definately hotter in mexico than peru.

That is a good argument whether mexican women are hotter than peruvianas. I would say it is close, but in Peru it is easier. But if you like white fresas in Mexico than yes it would be better than Peru. But dont forget the obesity epedemic in Mexico is almost, at the same level as the US.

Post: #22

the obesity thing is different here in mexico than in us. ive see many girls in usa that if they lost weight would be attractive in mexico its different. almost all the fat girls here would be unattractive even if they were skinny they just arnt facially attractive. i think its an economics thing here. once a girl gets married has kids unless the husband is wealthy or in top 30% they usually just say fuck it and start getting fat. In mexico most of the attractive women facially at least under 30 are thin the ones that start letting themselves go early are ugly anyways and know they can not attract a wealthier top 30% guy here so they just say fuck it and get fat.

btw top 30% is like 1200$ month in mexico.

Post: #23

the obesity thing is different here in mexico than in us. ive see many girls in usa that if they lost weight would be attractive in mexico its different. almost all the fat girls here would be unattractive even if they were skinny they just arnt facially attractive. i think its an economics thing here. once a girl gets married has kids unless the husband is wealthy or in top 30% they usually just say fuck it and start getting fat. In mexico most of the attractive women facially at least under 30 are thin the ones that start letting themselves go early are ugly anyways and know they can not attract a wealthier top 30% guy here so they just say fuck it and get fat.

btw top 30% is like 1200$ month in mexico.

Post: #24

(09-07-2012 06:46 PM)bacon Wrote:  the obesity thing is different here in mexico than in us. ive see many girls in usa that if they lost weight would be attractive in mexico its different. almost all the fat girls here would be unattractive even if they were skinny they just arnt facially attractive. i think its an economics thing here. once a girl gets married has kids unless the husband is wealthy or in top 30% they usually just say fuck it and start getting fat. This is something i also saw in peru too. but in mexico most of the attractive women facially at least under 30 are thin the ones that start letting themselves go early are ugly anyways and know they can not attract a wealthier top 30% guy here so they just say fuck it and get fat.

btw top 30% is like 1200$ month in mexico.

I have been to Mexico, but i would never recommend it for the women when you have Brazil, Colombia and the Dominican Republic in Latin America. Maybe if you live in California, Texas, Arizona, etc it would make a nice road trip. Mexico and Puerto Rico are the most americanized countries in the spanish speaking world. Ecuador is getting there too.

Post: #25

(09-07-2012 06:46 PM)bacon Wrote:  the obesity thing is different here in mexico than in us. ive see many girls in usa that if they lost weight would be attractive in mexico its different. almost all the fat girls here would be unattractive even if they were skinny they just arnt facially attractive. i think its an economics thing here. once a girl gets married has kids unless the husband is wealthy or in top 30% they usually just say fuck it and start getting fat. This is something i also saw in peru too. but in mexico most of the attractive women facially at least under 30 are thin the ones that start letting themselves go early are ugly anyways and know they can not attract a wealthier top 30% guy here so they just say fuck it and get fat.

btw top 30% is like 1200$ month in mexico.

Can we get a ruling on this?