Post: #26

(12-15-2012 08:53 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 09:43 AM)player Wrote:  There's already one out there - Forbidden Keys to Persuasion by Blair Warren. He studied various cult leaders to find out how they persuaded their followers, even against their best interests (e.g. cult suicides like Jonestown).

I just finished reading this book today.

It's fairly awesome.

WIA

where'd you get the book? i couldnt find it on amazon

Post: #27

(12-10-2012 11:07 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  The off chance that she puts up some real resistance, you're supposed to blow out the candles.

This is supposed to work on a subliminal level as you pull out of the dreamy state, she wants back in....and then realizes that a sloppy bj isn't really a bad idea after all.

WIA

I'm going to try that and get back to you.

Wald

Post: #28

(12-15-2012 08:59 PM)lurker123123 Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 08:53 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 09:43 AM)player Wrote:  There's already one out there - Forbidden Keys to Persuasion by Blair Warren. He studied various cult leaders to find out how they persuaded their followers, even against their best interests (e.g. cult suicides like Jonestown).

I just finished reading this book today.

It's fairly awesome.

WIA

where'd you get the book? i couldnt find it on amazon

I think it is infinitely better to read about the source events rather than any compilation like Forbidden Keys to Persuasion.

I'd start with reading about Pavlovian Conditioning and Stolkholm Syndrome and then move onto biographies etc. where the victims (and oppressors) thought processes are detailed. I think, personally, the best place to start on actual brainwashing is books about Patty Hearst.

If in doubt, start with the 'North Korea is on another level' thread in the everything else forum.

Post: #29

(12-10-2012 10:15 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  Weaker-minded bitches can essentially fall under the spell of a strong man. You know when bitches complain that one of their girlfriends "hasn't been herself since she started dating so-and-so?" That's that mind control for you. He totally possesses her in such a way that he can totally remake her in any way he chooses.

!!!

There you go! That's what I'm talking about!

And that still happens in the west, yes?

Post: #30

(12-10-2012 11:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It's the essence of pimp game, this total mastery of mind (and her ass follows)
...
If nothing at all, game is about letting a woman truly express her self by removing all of the obstacles that society, religion, her friends, her family, her mind puts in the way.

And the main who facilitates this natural awakening...well this is a family friendly forum...

Yup. There are very few men who work to get to that level. Most guys assume that all tales of pimp game are fiction, or don't apply to the girls that they meet.

Post: #31

(12-16-2012 08:03 AM)xsplat Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:15 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  Weaker-minded bitches can essentially fall under the spell of a strong man. You know when bitches complain that one of their girlfriends "hasn't been herself since she started dating so-and-so?" That's that mind control for you. He totally possesses her in such a way that he can totally remake her in any way he chooses.

!!!

There you go! That's what I'm talking about!

And that still happens in the west, yes?

I think it's somewhat more difficult in the West now, because these bitches are so much more combative. We now have to screen harder for the bitches that are more susceptible to suggestion...HA HA!

Post: #32

Read this thread for some extreme examples..

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Post: #33

(12-16-2012 12:24 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(12-16-2012 08:03 AM)xsplat Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:15 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  Weaker-minded bitches can essentially fall under the spell of a strong man. You know when bitches complain that one of their girlfriends "hasn't been herself since she started dating so-and-so?" That's that mind control for you. He totally possesses her in such a way that he can totally remake her in any way he chooses.

!!!

There you go! That's what I'm talking about!

And that still happens in the west, yes?

I think it's somewhat more difficult in the West now, because these bitches are so much more combative. We now have to screen harder for the bitches that are more susceptible to suggestion...HA HA!

There are plenty of "suggestible" women in the west. The west produces alot women with no fathers, confused women, god less women, women without purpose and direction, women who need leadership.

Post: #34

It's easier in the West than it was before.

Cult of Personality rules and any sense of moral right and wrong has been systematically destroyed.
You don't need money or talent to be considered 'a leader.'

Remember, for most of history in the West, if you weren't a tax-paying homeowner society wouldn't have granted you any authority. Now you just need a blog or instagram account or something.

Post: #35

It’s all about finding a niche. It doesn’t matter what it is. Art, Music, Kink, anything. All cults start with one or two, concentrate on getting a solid base and/or Bottom Bitch -> /thread-19712.html

Post: #36

hahah @ WIA- I still use a modified strawberry opener( or in my case continue-er) upon occasion-

"Which do you like more strawberries or blueberries? Why? (Can sub this for peaches or mango).

The bullshit questions that have no relevance and no significance, but is so different that it draws in their attention. This allows her to talk and not worry about awkwardness, because fruit is so AWESOME!!!!! lol. You can springboard to other topics when conversation steadies at the 60 second mark.

If she hates both, then you just make fun of her for being lame.

Its all in the game, boys...

Post: #37

I was expecting some troll nonsense with Jim Jones shouting "ballllllliiiiiiiin'" but I was pleasantly surprised.

Post: #38

(01-18-2013 10:21 PM)Khaleth Wrote:  I was expecting some troll nonsense with Jim Jones shouting "ballllllliiiiiiiin'" but I was pleasantly surprised.

Ironically, He does talk alot about how kids get brainwashed by their neighborhood+media+culture+lack of guidance/direction.

Post: #39

(12-10-2012 10:41 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  It's the "Vegas" thing. No clocks, no windows, no concept of time.

den of the lotus eaters

Post: #40

People generally become more like those around them.

(01-19-2013 02:28 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 10:21 PM)Khaleth Wrote:  I was expecting some troll nonsense with Jim Jones shouting "ballllllliiiiiiiin'" but I was pleasantly surprised.

Ironically, He does talk alot about how kids get brainwashed by their neighborhood+media+culture+lack of guidance/direction.

Post: #41

It's the 5 friends thing, you become like your 5 closest acquaintances.

Post: #42

(12-12-2012 12:53 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-12-2012 12:20 PM)Hades Wrote:  eye contact.

I have been working on my eye contact.

I used to look at girls in the eye too much and I would look at them with a look that was too serious. Now, I look away often to fake disinterest.

During conversation, we have to take breaks in eye contact. Looking a girl in the eyes too much seems needy. It's better to break eye contact and look away sometimes, it makes you seem more aloof. Don't fixate on her, don't make her the center of your universe.

Lately, I haven't been looking in their eyes enough. I need to get back to a good seductive gaze, something like this...

(12-11-2012 01:54 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  They say some animals hypnotize their prey when they look into its eyes.

Like a lion staring into the eyes of a wilderbeast before he takes it down!!!

When I am talking to a woman I find attractive, as I am talking to her, about anything at all, I say in the back of my mind, "Honey, we're talking about the most innocent or boring shit, but right now I want you to know that I would fuck you into ecstatic oblivion, like you have never been fucked before." So the conversation can be about anything, but my eyes stay, "the orgasms won't stop."

Post: #43

(01-19-2013 01:25 PM)Kwisatz Wrote:  People generally become more like those around them.

Yeah, for better or worse.

Hang around monsters and you will become a monster. Hang around angels and you will become an angel. (Generally)

Little kids get brainwashed everyday.

(01-23-2013 01:14 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  So the conversation can be about anything, but my eyes stay, "the orgasms won't stop."

I do the same thing.

I love gaming with my eyes and my voice tone.

" I use "indirect language" but "direct body language" at the exact same time. I will not tell the girl that I'm attracted to her but I will look at her and talk to her in a tone that is very suggestive/sexual. I will just talk to her about any random topic but while doing that, I will look at her in the eyes seductively and move my eyes around her body.

You can say almost anything and make it seductive. For example, [i]"Damn, its so hot today, I'm gonna get some ice cream"

As I say "Damn", I'm looking at her waist. Then I slowly move my eyes up her body and slowly say, "its so hot today", then look her in the eyes without any fear or embarrassment..."I'm gonna get some ice cream"...as I move my eyes back down over her body. Of course I keep a little grin on my face and say everything with a playful but strong tone. Tonality is very important with this type of approach. The way you talk and your body/eye language is almost more important then what you say."[/i]

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Post: #44

Pimp Game is hard to even express. When I first heard “Game is sold, not told.” I thought it was just clever word play, but its literally true. The hard part is unless you have an inkling of understanding it, it sounds like magic. I am just leaning about “Game”. What I learned of women I learned from pimps, so its a very different outlook.

(12-10-2012 11:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It's the essence of pimp game, this total mastery of mind (and her ass follows)

Post: #45

(01-23-2013 06:03 PM)Kwisatz Wrote:  Pimp Game is hard to even express. When I first heard “Game is sold, not told.” I thought it was just clever word play, but its literally true. The hard part is unless you have an inkling of understanding it, it sounds like magic. I am just leaning about “Game”. What I learned of women I learned from pimps, so its a very different outlook.

We have tried to discuss pimping on here a few times. The discussion never really got any momentum. I think most guys on this forum have never been exposed to it. They have never seen it. They don't believe it.

They think its a joke or a street crime that they can't learn anything from.

I watched my father pimp. What I learned is...

1) Target selection. Find the women who need a man in their lives.

2) Be charismatic. Women are drawn to an exciting man. Don't be boring.

3) Conversation is king. Your tongue is your most important muscle.

Kwisatz,

What stands out to you in your observation of pimps.

Post: #46

(01-25-2013 12:32 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  We have tried to discuss pimping on here a few times. The discussion never really got any momentum. I think most guys on this forum have never been exposed to it. They have never seen it. They don't believe it.

They think its a joke or a street crime that they can't learn anything from.

I watched my father pimp. What I learned is...

1) Target selection. Find the women who need a man in their lives.

2) Be charismatic. Women are drawn to an exciting man. Don't be boring.

3) Conversation is king. Your tongue is your most important muscle.

Kwisatz,

What stands out to you in your observation of pimps.

One of my intellectual heroes is Steven Pinker.

If I sat down with him, and had one question to ask, I would ask him:

"Why does pimping work?"

I bet he would tell you this, and so much more.

Post: #47

For the most part the advice that I get from the men in my family is rubbish. I have one cousin, though, who I am the most close with whom is a notorious womanizer. He is the person I talk to whenever I happen to need advice on anything that is less than socially acceptable. He is the person I credit the most with shaping the way I interact with the oppositie sex. Just like you guys, he learned his game from studying pimps, and most of what he teaches me jibes with what I am learning from the community.

The game that I learned from him is survivalist in nature. It involves capturing a woman's mind so that she cannot live without you so that when you fall on tough times you naturally have a place to go. Looking back at all my serious relationships I noticed the underlying theme of them was that all the women I dated were severely attached to me. They made it their soul's purpose to take care of me, feed me, and make sure that I stayed happy. I had my bitches cook for me, lend me their cars for extended periods of time and call me daddy. Only because that's what I wanted to do.

What I find interesting is this: even though I didn't have an explicit intention to approach my relationships in this way, it just so happened that this is the way they turned out. I suspect this is the result of me internalizing the behaviors of my older cousin when I was a youth... Much like a younger bonobo chimp learns to eat aphids through a straw from studying the other members of his clan do the same.

I would like to see more discussion on this style of game as this is where I'm coming from

-PJ

Post: #48

(01-25-2013 01:05 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  One of my intellectual heroes is Steven Pinker.

If I sat down with him, and had one question to ask, I would ask him:

"Why does pimping work?"

I bet he would tell you this, and so much more.

Please explain more..

What do you think think Pinker would say?

To answer the question.. "Why does pimping work?"

My answer is this -- Because the human mind is malleable.

Post: #49

Before I go into what stands out to me the most, I think we should first point out some subtle, but profound differences between Pimp Game and Game. I define “Game” as being able to successful get women to have sex with me quickly by clever word play and triggering psychological and/or psychosomatic responses. “Pimp Game” is being able to have multiple women work hard at the same time to give you every thing they have of value in exchange for giving them some intangible they are lacking, usually a father figure.

Having said all that.

Pimps don’t understand the word “can’t”.

Any woman can be turned out to do my biding, give me her money, buy my suits, fuck me, or fuck my friends ON COMMAND. That includes your wife, your girlfriend, your mom, your daughter, your sister, the old lady that pours your coffee at Starbucks, that barely-legal hostess at your favorite restaurant and the girl you saw in a movie and wish you could meet. Lets be clear, when I say “Your”, I mean YOU, the man reading this right now thinking I am talking about all the other men reading this article because what I just said couldn’t possibly apply to him. YES YOU!

The concept that there is any woman that can’t be made to sing to my tune is ridiculous. The only thing that may come into consideration is if she is worth the time to take her and keep her vs. what I can get out of her.

Pimps aren’t in it for the sex.

I know, shocking. Its not that we don’t like sex as much as the next man, we are just at a point where getting random sex is not a challenge on any level. Women have a consistently renewable resource, her pussy. Placing too high a value on that has been the ruin of many men. I prefer to own her mind. I like the simplicity of having several women who dedicate themselves to my happiness and will do anything to give me what I want. My Pimp Game has never involved the street life. My women are all educated with white-collar jobs. Not because I don’t value other kinds of women. But because educated women in white-collar jobs are much easier to manipulate.

That’s an entirely different discussion.

Pimps fill-in-the-blank.

When I meet a woman I want, I listen hard. A woman will always tell you the key to her mind and pussy within the first few hours of conversation.

If she is lazy, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level., because you’ll show her how.

If she is no good with money, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level, because you’ll show her how.

If she is depressed/sad, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level, because you’ll show her how.

Can you see a pattern here?

These are just a few things that stand out to me in the differences with pimps. Any questions?

(01-25-2013 12:32 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Kwisatz,

What stands out to you in your observation of pimps.

Post: #50

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