Post: #76

(01-03-2013 01:42 PM)Private Man Wrote:  Solomon's Dating Dilemma...

If a woman has to tell you she wants you to be dominant - and you do it - you are still doing what you are told which automatically means that you are not dominant and that you don't "get it".

Actually it's not hard to get around this dilemma at all, because it's emotional and not logical, so if a woman tells you to be dominant you simply need to say to her, "Don't tell me what to do." and continue to run tight game afterward.

Post: #77

(01-03-2013 04:03 AM)soup Wrote:  Aside from any personal connections that Roosh has with Mrs. Chocolate, how is she different from other women?

She's not, so maybe that's why she's the only one. Personally don't mind it, it's a nice occasional diversion.

Post: #78

(01-03-2013 01:42 PM)Private Man Wrote:  Solomon's Dating Dilemma...

If a woman has to tell you she wants you to be dominant - and you do it - you are still doing what you are told which automatically means that you are not dominant and that you don't "get it".

I disagree with that. if you don't tell people what you want your chances of getting it go way down IME.

Or as Lloyd Banks said, "bitch say something, I ain't a mind reader"

Post: #79

There's a saying that "a closed mouth don't get fed." Sometimes you need to ask for what you want. Women can be really good at "dropping hints" in a passive-aggressive fashion, without ever really getting to what they want. Let's put aside the attacks on Mrs. Chocolate for a moment. Even if some of the accusations directed at her, simply because she's a woman, are true, that has nothing to do with the fact that the guy in question isn't stepping up. If a woman is going to complain, I'd rather she complain about my actions, not about my inaction. Game is supposed to be more about what we as men say and do, and less about what SHE says and does. We're supposed to be guiding the interaction as much as possible. If we're not attempting to do that, we can't complain about what some woman is saying or doing.

Post: #80

(12-26-2012 12:55 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  Guys, you don't get it. And this is not because we are not agreeing.

It is not because the date itself. I miss men standing up for themselves. Of course I want to choose places to go. Of course that I can suggest places and ask and don't care. This is something else. Underneath the "where are we going next saturday" conversation I can feel something missing. Is like being the girl leading the dance instead of the man.
I don't want to be opressed and I value the women power during our times. I heard from my girlfriends the same: I NEED MY BOYFRIEND TO BE A MAN FOR ME. Not a boy, nor a beta.
Men seem to be intimidated.

If he's that good, an unpolished diamond-type in your view, then what I'd suggest, like others here, is to "train" him like a dog by offering overt suggestions, then rewards for good behavior. Remember, be overt, not "womanly subtle." Build him up, increase his confidence level little by little.

From what you've said, he reminds me of guys I've played sports with- talented, but little initiative or confidence. So what do you do? Throughout the course of a practice or game, you have to "work" on the guy's psyche. Offer little encouragements when they get it right. Your "passes" should put him the position to succeed. Then when he succeeds, give him the credit. "Confidence," IMO, is little more than a succession of small successes. All men want to lead, its just that many were never taught.

Post: #81

(12-27-2012 04:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Morphoazul has been muted. Mrs. Chocolate is the only female allowed to post here.

Can't there be some sort of "pass" for Brazilian women? I mean, they're the inspiration for half of this forum. Just kidding.

Post: #82

(01-03-2013 01:57 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 04:03 AM)soup Wrote:  Aside from any personal connections that Roosh has with Mrs. Chocolate, how is she different from other women?

She's not, so maybe that's why she's the only one. Personally don't mind it, it's a nice occasional diversion.

My guess is that because I don't post nonsense and I have been here more than ones who were top of the pops. But you could let Roosh himself answer the question.
I seriously don't mind all the hate because I am a woman posting here. I am filtering the despise and using your advices as best as I can.
Therefore I apreciate the ones who even came to laugh about my "whinning".

Post: #83

Ok, Mrs. C we are results oriented. So what are you actually going to do differently from now on? Anything?

Post: #84

Expect for changes doing exacly the same things is crazyness.
There is no logical in that. If I am asking advices I need to collect the answers and apply in RL.
By start I will try older men. They stare, now that I have natural hair (Seems like they miss the 70s... LOL) but don't approach.
I could date a gringo, but I don't know any inside my social circle do to so.
Let's see how it goes.

Post: #85

Mrs C, just go for guys about 10 years older. They will appreciate your youthful looks and you will appreciate their maturity, stability and experience. It's a good match actually. Especially if you can find a mid-30s guy who still is in good shape and active.

Post: #86

My youth can't be enough. Because it goes with the wind.
I must have something else.

Post: #87

(12-25-2012 11:25 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  Of course this is from the begining of the relationship.
In a LTR is a must to bring ideas about places to go, people to meet and the like. Can I call the waiter and make my order by myself? Yes, I can! Let you doing so is my way to show you that you are important to me and part of my life. Just like putting the food on your dish when is finally served (not eating the cake and having too).

What really bothers me in men that I have been dating is the lack of security about themselves. They say amen for everything.

Let's face it. I've never been to your country, but the problems we complain about in the manosphere are just as much about men as they are women. Women have gotten harsh and overbearing - too manly. Men have gotten soft, insecure, and feminine.

That's the problem. We complain about women but our men are a huge part of it.

It's also why so many weak men who don't know how to take control see their girl running off with some "bad boy" who treats him like shit. Women are so deprived of true masculinity in today's society that they'll take it wherever they can get it.

The way I see it, you have a few options. You can keep waiting for a man to come along who delivers what you want - and you may want to analyze whether or not something about you is repelling that type of man or if you're rejecting that type of man's advances.

You can just accept the insecure guys you date for what they are and be the woman we all hate here at RooshV. You can just own him and love doing it. Like most women, this probably won't make you happy.

Or you can accept the best you're going to get is a balance. Nothing in life will ever be perfect, and even if you did have a man who took full control you can bet there are things you'd be unhappy about.

It's hard for us to advise your problems, Ms. Chocolate, because they are women's problems. We're used to dealing with the problems men face, so this is a tough one for us. Not to mention we just don't know your culture very well. Even with all the wusses in America, I think there are still quite a few manly men who would be willing to step up and take the lead.

Trying with a gringo seems like a good idea if your own men are really just a bunch of mama's boys. I also like the idea of going for someone a bit older. Whichever you do though, I really advise screening, unless you're just looking for casual sex (in which case stop being so picky and get it on already). By screening, you should be able to tell how a guy feels about male/female dynamics after a few dates. You're not going to get a man to be more masculine by changing him, so you'll have no choice but keep looking.

Or why not try a roll in the hay with a Roosher? It may be just the dash of masculinity you're looking for... we promise that if you come stateside for that very reason we won't label you a sex tourist.

Good luck and Game on.

(12-26-2012 02:13 PM)calihunter Wrote:  What is dominance?:
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Credit - TrueStory http://www.theattractionforums.com/best-forum/

Epic. Thanks for posting that!

(01-03-2013 04:03 AM)soup Wrote:  Aside from any personal connections that Roosh has with Mrs. Chocolate, how is she different from other women?

What makes her so special that she is the only woman who is allowed to post here?

(01-03-2013 04:21 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  soup, I wonder myself! This thread is a pretty good depiction of some female behaviors people on here claim to despise and see through but magically accept now (name calling, shaming, wanting her cake and eat it, too, "grrrl power" remarks). There is even some whiteknighting in here. Very curious.

She's the forum pet. There can only be one.

(01-08-2013 10:22 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  Expect for changes doing exacly the same things is crazyness.
There is no logical in that. If I am asking advices I need to collect the answers and apply in RL.

Surely something we could all learn from...

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling