Post: #26

(07-02-2013 03:37 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I did 6 hours straight of day game in a single day

That was fun to watch and be a part of.

6 hours of straight day gaming!

It was beautiful.

I told you. The only reason I came to help you is because you remind me of myself.

6 hours of day gaming! Just to improve it and eliminate it as a weak point!!!

Who does that?

Only guys that want it bad, real bad.

Most guys won't do 6 hours of day gaming their entire life.

I think it was Warren Buffet who said...

"The most important qualification of any executive is their sheer desire to succeed"

THE SHEER DESIRE TO SUCCEED! That is your most important skill.

Personally, I don't want it. I need it.

Personal development, for me, is air. Without it, I suffocate.

If you don't work hard, you have no chance.

Post: #27

Actually I don't even call it effort. I call it caring about my own personal development.

So when guys try to laugh at me for the hours I have worked career wise or game wise it doesn't bother me. Why? It just means they are underachieving, I got no time for people like that. You only know how far you can go if you break yourself down into nothing over and over again.

Just like muscle building, break yourself down mentally and physically every day until you get what you want. At least I can sleep at night knowing with certainty I didn't waste the day. I got something out of it even if it was 10-100 reps of failed attempts.

"It's painful" - who cares. You can take your complaints to Jezebel, I just hope you're getting paid for it.

Post: #28

(07-02-2013 03:37 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  The complaints about California boil down to this 1) it's harder, 2) I don't want to put in the work.

sure, if we put the work, we can get some (I have gotten some here and I have had women on me). problem is, as some other guys have mentioned, there aren't many fly girls here and the ones that are fly, have big time attitude. so, what's the point of putting a lot of effort for too little reward? you get me or are you going to be trying to justify wasting energy like how OGNorCal707 proposes?

Post: #29

(07-02-2013 02:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I starting to realize that maybe California sucks for most guys?!?!?

The Haves and the have nots. The gap is getting wider.

^ that's what I am trying to say, but OGNorCal707, being the fool he is, thinks that this place is a piece of cake. All I am trying to do is save him lots of headaches and other problems. I have been there and done that in this place that's my home and place of birth.

Post: #30

@hispanic

I am saying every city has a good & bad to it. Don't get me wrong, there are millions of cities out there that are better... There are also millions that are worse.

I hate sitting around and talking about how shitty x, y or z is. I would never move to Florida just for the sluts for example, I would need the real income and opportunities as well.

I only care about improving. To me the high competition is a blessing in disguise, think about it if you could have an 8/9 on lock down from DC/Seattle/Toronto/LA all at the same time... You could absolutely murder it elsewhere.

Also, being realistic it's not like it is healthy to have no sex life. It's not like you are going to sit at home on a Saturday night and make $100 an hour. So may as well find a way to game. Same with a saturday morning, there are tons of cute girls, just go to Crissy fields or Delores park and day game.

Finally, put it all in perspective. If you want a one night stand do you have a better shot in SF or Yuba City California. Sure dont be flying from NYC to SF for pussy but I don't think that's what a Bay Area thread is about. A Bay Area thread should be about how to succeed here.

Complaining about city X should go on the everything else forum (this is my opinion -and it means nothing) because it doesn't help people have fun or get laid.

Post: #31

(07-02-2013 09:39 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  @hispanic

I am saying every city has a good & bad to it. Don't be the wrong, there are millions of cities out there that are better... There are also millions that are worse.

yeah, like LA.

Quote:I hate sitting around and talking about how shitty x, y or z is.

well, it's how things are around here bud, whether you like it or not, you have to face the music.

Quote:I only care about improving. To me the high competition is a blessing in disguise, think about it if you could have an 8/9 on lock down from DC/Seattle/Toronto/LA all at the same one. You could absolutely murder it elsewhere.

who said I would move to another anglo north-american city. that's just asking a man to be a moron. and yes, high competition can be blessing, but you have the situation where the rewards are too little and too many risks. if it was lots of rewards but too many risks, I would be saying otherwise.

Quote:Also, being realistic it's not like it is healthy to have no sex life.

that's true, but I have made my choice. I am simply disgusted beyond return of american women and american culture. i can care less if people say I am acting "beta." I way I see it, I find it more beta swallowing the kool-aid and saying "the bay area isn't so bad" when for:

1. I have been there and done that.
2. I have lived here all my life.
3. I know there are way greener pastures elsewhere.

so keep up on trying to justify something completely stupid and foolish. I am actually trying to help people avoid headaches and depression but no, people are too dam stubborn to admit to see the truth.

Quote:It's not like you are going to sit at home on a Saturday night and make $100 an hour. So may as well find a way to game. Same with a saturday morning, there are tons of cute girls, just go to Crissy fields or Delores park and day game.

LOL. spend my money driving to frisco when I could save my money to have lots of drinks during summer vacation in GDL or in Monterrey and going to better bars.

I always find it funny how americans always go long ways to try to bullshit of how it isn't that bad in the US. can't admit the truth, lol.

Post: #32

I think we are speaking different languages.

I have been to over 25 countries and I know there are better cities. Again there are trade offs.

If you are successful financially are you living in a favela in brazil? No you generally have to live where the money is (NYC, SF, Miami, Los Angeles etc).

I am not defending the "hot chicks in California debate" I am saying if you live in the bay, and this is a Bay Area thread, think about how to manage the situation as best as possible.

Again are you really working 20 hours a day making money in the Bay Area or improving yourself? If not you have time to find a game niche.

Hell Lothario came to SF and I gave him exactly where to stand, at what bar and exactly what the situation would be like and on what night and he almost pulled off an immediate one night stand, dude had a girl in his apartment on day one or two! So that's not necessarily bad if you ask me considering I spoke to him for 15 minutes at max due to work commitments. You can search out his thread, he has good game no knock on that so what i'm saying is if you work on your game you'll do just fine out here like he would.

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I don't got time for "don't come here because of X". Most people are here for a reason - work, school or otherwise so make the best of it.

I got no plans of living forever in California, but I sure as shit don't got time for bitching in the mean time.

Post: #33

quote from the site happierabroad.com who says the truth about everywhere in the US, especially the bay area:

Quote:Fellas, America's a fine place, if you actively avoid American women, have a money making career/vocation, b*ink abroad, and have a series of extracurricular activities which you can do on your own (without necessarily needing ppl around all the time) to facilitate your way of life

Post: #34

Sure at least that one is closer to a legitimate game plan and is pretty much a decent formula around the USA.

1. Get a high paying career
2. Seek out foreign girls (tons of foreigners go to SF/LA etc.)
3. Spit normal game without dropping tons of money and save cash for long-term freedom

Hell the three steps above is what i preach. No way in hell am I torturing myself with these 1 month negative cash flow vacations, go for the kill. Long-term ex-patriation with real cash flow.

In the mean time, generally speaking, all the complaining about any city or country is straight up annoying. Just up and leave if its so much easier and better elsewhere.

I can move to brazil right now... but i sure as hell am going to take a major step back financially which is not worth it at all.

Finally, look at Gio the guy has been the SF day game guy on this forum for years, he's not dropping large amounts of cash like all the moneyed up VC guys so whats the problem? I've seen the girls he hits up/talks to and no we are not banging Victoria Secret models like everyone does in Ukraine and Bogota but i'll be god damned if you can't find a way to bang some 7's without blowing your brains out.

Post: #35

Hispanic_Reasoning, the question asked was how do I get laid in the Bay Area, not whatever it is you are talking about

WestCoast, Giovanny and OGNorcal all came through in this thread.

Post: #36

(07-02-2013 10:59 PM)speeddemon Wrote:  Hispanic_Reasoning, the question asked was how do I get laid in the Bay Area, not whatever it is you are talking about

WestCoast, Giovanny and OGNorcal all came through in this thread.

those three are saying that it isn't so bad in the bay area. sure, you can get some tail here (I have done that) but the payoffs is too little and too much work (we are all humans and we all like the path of least resistance, and I know that's what people here want, as I am also a human being). Now, I know guys will be saying I am bitching but hey, I am saying the truth here, and for many americans, the truth can't be told because the truth is too sour to swallow (just look at snowden case. people here in the US are reacting indifferent to it because they just don't want to accept the truth that the government is infringing their rights).

if guys seriously want to try to get some here (of which I recommend don't come here for that, unless you want asian-american chicks), then I know a bunch of places to go that you wouldn't think off (like the wineries in Napa Valley). hell, the westfield mall in SF is also a good place to day-game.

Post: #37

(07-02-2013 10:09 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Sure at least that one is closer to a legitimate game plan and is pretty much a decent formula around the USA.

1. Get a high paying career
2. Seek out foreign girls (tons of foreigners go to SF/LA etc.)
3. Spit normal game without dropping tons of money and save cash for long-term freedom

LOL. the bold is basically saying going for the AW, which is exactly what that guy I am quoting is saying not to do and me as well. so much for your plan.

typical american, full of shit. :yawn:

Quote:Hell the three steps above is what i preach. No way in hell am I torturing myself with these 1 month negative cash flow vacations, go for the kill. Long-term ex-patriation with real cash flow.

it's what I plan to do. however, I am in college right now.

Quote:In the mean time, generally speaking, all the complaining about any city or country is straight up annoying. Just up and leave if its so much easier and better elsewhere.

I wish it was that easy but right now, I am in college here so I must do with what I got, holding it up for a few years, then I can bail out to germany.

Quote:Finally, look at Gio the guy has been the SF day game guy on this forum for years, he's not dropping large amounts of cash like all the moneyed up VC guys so whats the problem? I've seen the girls he hits up/talks to and no we are not banging Victoria Secret models like everyone does in Ukraine and Bogota but i'll be god damned if you can't find a way to bang some 7's without blowing your brains out.

I have been with 7s here, and I am saying that it isn't worth all the work.


Now I will get called a beta bitch straight up in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.......

Post: #38

Here's a datasheet I wrote on the South Bay a while back. Some of it is out of date but hopefully it can help.

Here's some advice on living in the South Bay I dropped in another thread:

(06-04-2012 12:15 AM)Mujeriego Wrote:  Scotian I feel your pain. I lived in San Jose aka Man Jose for six years. Ironically it's this environment that I credit for tightening my game. I'm moving soon but this godforsaken city has taught me some valuable lessons.

Nightlife sucks because anything with a pussy if getting swarmed by thirsty dudes?
Throw on a suit and daygame.

Getting rejected 12 times in one day/night? (yes it happened)
Fuck it, there's a bitch out there that wants some dick.

Dudes throwing money around to impress chicks?
Let them burn up their cash. I'll get the pussy for free while she makes him spend more and wait because "she's not that kind of girl."

Find your niche and mine it like hell. In my case it was latina girls who were the first in their family to attend college. You'll do a lot of trial and error. Things will blow compared to a regular city but you'll adapt and overcome.

Here's another tip: There's some cute Mexican girls in San Jose. Learn some Spanish and aspects of Mexican culture. Start shopping at Mi Pueblo and hitting the Mexican clubs. I was knocking these chicks down left and right once I learned the ropes. If there's interest I'll make a data sheet on it.

Post: #39

(07-03-2013 12:30 AM)Mujeriego Wrote:  Here's another tip: There's some cute Mexican girls in San Jose. Learn some Spanish and aspects of Mexican culture. Start shopping at Mi Pueblo and hitting the Mexican clubs. I was knocking these chicks down left and right once I learned the ropes. If there's interest I'll make a data sheet on it.

^that's actually a very good tip right there. the hidden gems in San Jose are the Mexican wimminz there.

Post: #40

Good advice all around on this thread. Here's my contribution. I’ve put down data on two of my favorite community colleges in the area. I will follow up with a full-fledged datasheet on daygame here at a later date.

As I am underage, close to leaving for college, and reliant on my friends/bike for transportation, I saw no real point in trying to spending money on an ID, as SF and the East Bay, where all the good nightgame is, aren't easily reachable for me. What semblance of nightgame I've been practicing has typically centered around high school dances and raves, which are anyways off limits for almost everyone on this forum. As such, most of my gaming experience has come from daytime approaches, almost all of which have occurred at colleges and malls.

De Anza College:

My main haunt, De Anza is located in Cupertino(ten minutes from SJ, the headquarters of Apple Computer). It is open from September 23 to June 28th; try to avoid the weeks December 11-14, March 26-29, and June 24-28, as those are when finals occur. I've typically found it difficult to game girls during these weeks, as they are all stressed and in a hurry to get to their final(making it hard to game them between classes). For the rest of the year, though, it's advisable to advisable to game between 9:00 and 1:30, as that's when student traffic is in full flow.

Girls at De Anza are typically good-natured and willing to talk to you. I was able to pull numbers there at a very early stage in my game(when I, as with everyone at that period, sucked complete ass). Using indirect openers is probably a good idea, as rapid-fire approaching girls here with direct openers will likely earn you something of a reputation. Spend most of your time in the area around the fountain, the library, and the main office.

The girls here are better than you would expect. Yes, about 60% of them are physically unremarkable, but the remaining 40% averages around a 7 in looks. Stunners are very uncommon, but attractive girls are generally in abundance. The quality girls here are typically Latina, but there are plenty of cute Asian and White girls here too. Also there are tons of international students here, predominantly from China or Vietnam, so if that's your thing and you know the languages then you'll be at an advantage. Most of the daygaming that has occurred here has come from yours truly and my two wings, so there's no need to worry about girls who are jaded as a result of overapproaching. There's also no need to worry about strong bitch shields or attitudes; girls here will stop when stopped, speak when spoken to, and engage in conversation if they aren't genuinely in a hurry to get somewhere.

Furthermore, if a complete newbie like me can get some serious interest from these girls, I have little doubt that the hardened players on this forum can absolutely clean up here. If you're in Cupertino for whatever reason, spend a few hours daygaming at De Anza.

Rating: 6.5-7/10 for daygame

West Valley College

Located near Los Gatos, a twenty-ish minute drive from SJ. West Valley is open around the same time as De Anza is, though I’m not completely sure about the exact dates. West Valley also has many more weeks of finals than De Anza does, so I would avoid gaming there in the latter weeks of December, March, and June(you wouldn’t want to game there in June anyway, it gets hot as balls). West Valley is my favorite daygame spot. The campus is gorgeous, as are the girls. WV isn’t nicknamed “Breast Valley” for nothing; the campus swarms with girls of all races(I met an extremely attractive Eritrean—I must pay a visit to the Horn of Africa someday), most of whom are perfectly willing to talk and engage in conversation. WV probably has one of the best concentrations of hot girls in the South Bay; you won’t find the like anywhere outside of Valley Fair Mall and Santana Row, and there the bitch shields are gallingly high.

WV is gameable for longer than De Anza is, as the campus is fairly active from 10:00 to maybe 3 or 4 in the afternoon. Instadates are hard to accomplish, but most of the students live nearby the campus, which is fairly close to both Los Gatos and Saratoga(i.e plenty of venues for a lunch, coffee, or drinks date). Otherwise, plenty of girls here are into smoking weed(most girls in NorCal are), so blazing with them is also an option. As I stated before, WV is incredibly diverse. I’ve approached Palestinian, Eritrean, Peruvian, and run-of-the-mill White girls here within the space of one hour. The central walkway and the area around the library are the best spots to hit. Go indirect, as always.

Post: #41

Hispanic is simply putting words in my mouth, I have never said you are a bitch but I do believe you are a complainer, you're here for college so how are you going to make your time around here a positive experience? I have stated in this thread twice, you either make the most of your time here or you leave today.

You're calling me a "yawn typical American" yet I already know there are better cities for girls and have been to them. However, if you've got a real career and real opportunities you're not living in Guadalajara.

I never said guys should come here specifically for the girls but I'm also not going to live in a city just for pussy if my opportunity cost is getting rich. No thanks.

With that said, you can pull 2 new girls a month (7's) with less than $3K spend a month. So again if you use the bay for what it is, a money making machine, you will be better off here than starting your life in a third world country making peanuts.

So again how are you making your time in the bay a positive experience? I haven't seen a single cent made or self improvement come from complaining in my entire life. So why complain? It's worthless. Adapt and be happy with your life or be unhappy, the choice is yours.

"Ironically it's this environment that I credit for tightening my game." -Mujeriego

The good side of the coin.

Post: #42

(07-03-2013 02:49 AM)The Troubled One Wrote:  De Anza College:


West Valley College

Dude,

You are giving away all my secrets!

These schools are great for day gaming. The girls are more feminine and more friendly than people might expect. The quality at West Valley is surprisingly high. Very steady flow of 7s, 7.5s, and 8s.

De Anza is also pretty good. Lots of international girls like you said. There is a Whole Foods right across the street from De Anza. Good day gaming in there also.

Those are 2 of the best junior colleges to game at in the state. The warm weather helps a lot.

San Jose State is also pretty good. Stanford is not the greatest for girls but the campus is beautiful and worth visiting.

Great post.