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Dear fellow Rooshv forum members,
Hello
I am a 21 year old living in India. My country is not as intolerant as the middle east but neither are we very liberal. Thankfully we are free from ultrafeminism but lies like "women can do everything a man can" have started propogating.

I have been studying game for around last 3 years and found rooshv.com and the forum few days ago. I have been mostly doing just, what the PUA community calls, "mental masturbation"; no closes, although I did manage to make a girl propose me, and create attraction in a few others (and could've closed had I not the problems I describe later). I've internalized most of the inner game concepts viz. overconfidence, fake it till you make it, outcome independence etc. and now need a polish that can only come from practice.

Let me describe the women in my country before I tell you about my problem.
This is applies to most women in my country, except for maybe the ones living in the large cities:
Girls in conservative societies have the mentality of "first and only love", meeting their prince charming and living happily ever after, and they believe in it all their life.
Unlike women in liberal countries, they never gain enough experience to understand that the world isn't perfect. They're like a deluded adult who still believes in fairy tales. They often have skewed opinions on casual relationships, dating etc. and can't even back it up with logic, just citing "traditional values" and "chastity" as the right way (not that I find anything wrong with that, but I'd like them to be a bit more liberal).
Moreover, being social creatures, they are scared of breaking social norms (which are horrible in conservative societies) and are goody-two-shoes (since we're free from radical feminism.) Most of the (single) women have no idea of what actual relationships are like and are absorbed in their delusions. When their expectations aren't met in a relationship (obviously) they go suicidal, call all men pigs etc.

Scared of relationships/closes:
I want to share love and joy (have sex with) with a couple of women first and then maybe think of committing to one if I find someone worthy, but it seems that is impossible to do that with girls who want to just jump instantly from being single to be living with their prince charming forever and ever.
I unwillingly killed my potential relationships only because I was scared that if at some point I want to break up, the girl will get clingy and might go suicidal. I believe in the "leave them better than how you met them" motto but I'm scared that will never happen with such girls and I don't want to hurt anybody or be remembered as a bad guy, or end up in jail. I would really like these girls to see the light. I would be very thankful if you enlightened me with your thoughts on the subject. I think creating attraction in them is pretty easy, its proceeding to the deed and leaving after that I'm oblivious about. Also I don't know if attraction is enough to get them out of their social programming since they profess to be never intimate with someone who is not committed to them.
So how can a guy have sex with such women without getting into a relationship or using deceit?

Bonding Problem:
I can create and hold frame, but I have problem in keeping conversation going. I fall into the "thinker" personality type according to personality tests. I am a natural introvert and have forced myself to be more social. I love to teach, give advice on and discuss about my field of expertise and would like to talk and gain knowledge from people who are good at a particular field but unfortunately that's not everyone and I've never cared for small talk so I really don't know how to keep conversations going. I do keep girls in my social circle laughing with negs and teasing and some of them have been attracted to me at some point or another but I don't think that would work with someone I've just met.

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What's so suspicious about it?? You guys have problem with spoiled women with inflated egos who are on the cock carousel whereas here women won't put out that easily. That's it. Your society might be in dumps but at least you can get laid easily. Think about being having a western mindset (no fairy tale delusions), flowing with testosterone and being a virgin. It frickin frustrating!!

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(02-01-2013 03:15 AM)Rah Wrote:  

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Move out of India if you want any chance of gaming successfully.

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(02-01-2013 03:23 AM)FunctionalPsycho Wrote:  What's so suspicious about it?? You guys have problem with spoiled women with inflated egos who are on the cock carousel whereas here women won't put out that easily. That's it. Your society might be in dumps but at least you can get laid easily. Think about being having a western mindset (no fairy tale delusions), flowing with testosterone and being a virgin. It frickin frustrating!!

Date women below your caste. Go for Untouchables if you have to. Get the bang. Then say in your best Indian accent, "I am very sorry, but my father and my mother and my aunties and my uncles and my cousins and their cousins and their aunties and uncles and their mothers and their fathers - especially the fathers - will not approve of this relationship. I am the eldest son after all, I have the family image to maintain. We are not of the same caste, it was not meant to be." Remember to bob your head from side to side with extra sincerity.

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(02-01-2013 03:37 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(02-01-2013 03:23 AM)FunctionalPsycho Wrote:  What's so suspicious about it?? You guys have problem with spoiled women with inflated egos who are on the cock carousel whereas here women won't put out that easily. That's it. Your society might be in dumps but at least you can get laid easily. Think about being having a western mindset (no fairy tale delusions), flowing with testosterone and being a virgin. It frickin frustrating!!

Date women below your caste. Go for Untouchables if you have to. Get the bang. Then say in your best Indian accent, "I am very sorry, but my father and my mother and my aunties and my uncles and my cousins and their cousins and their aunties and uncles and their mothers and their fathers - especially the fathers - will not approve of this relationship. I am the eldest son after all, I have the family image to maintain. We are not of the same caste, it was not meant to be." Remember to bob your head from side to side with extra sincerity.

I do not discriminate based on just in what family one's born into. I understand your concept of forbidden fruit, but I don't think any woman would like this in the context of caste.

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I charge £800 for a week's course if you're interested.

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(02-01-2013 06:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Funny pic. And no I'm not a troll. Roosh, if you're suspicious about the IP address, I'm using Tor.
I just want answers to my problems, which are in the very first post. All that's written in it is true.

Seems like nobody's bothered to read it so I'll summarize:
1. How to have sex with conservative women and leave better than before? I can't think of any way of having casual sex and then walking away form these girls, and they have compared such acts to rape.
2. How to talk with women when you are a natural introvert, prefer to talk less and not interested in small talk?

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(02-01-2013 06:46 AM)FunctionalPsycho Wrote:  

(02-01-2013 06:02 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Funny pic. And no I'm not a troll. Roosh, if you're suspicious about the IP address, I'm using Tor.
I just want answers to my problems, which are in the very first post. All that's written in it is true.

Seems like nobody's bothered to read it so I'll summarize:
1. How to have sex with conservative women and leave better than before? I can't think of any way of having casual sex and then walking away form these girls, and they have compared such acts to rape.
2. How to talk with women when you are a natural introvert, prefer to talk less and not interested in small talk?

1 is easy. There's not just conservative women in India you know, they are all over the world, all women react to the same biological urges.
2, you need to talk and your interest in small talk is irrelevant, if you want to bang then sometimes you need to be able to ramble.

Offer is still available above

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(02-01-2013 06:46 AM)FunctionalPsycho Wrote:  Seems like nobody's bothered to read it so I'll summarize:
1. How to have sex with conservative women and leave better than before? I can't think of any way of having casual sex and then walking away form these girls, and they have compared such acts to rape.
2. How to talk with women when you are a natural introvert, prefer to talk less and not interested in small talk?

I hear India's prostitution scene is pretty wild. Just pay up and enjoy it -
1. The ho will have more cash than before, so she'll be better off
2. You let the money do the talking for you
It's that easy!

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2. Sorry, you need to change your way of thinking. You gotta learn to enjoy socializing and develop sincere interest into other people and what they have to say. Talking to women is about the subcommunication, not about the words you say. You can't develop the skillset of relating to women on that level beneath the words without abandoning the logical mindset you have. I have a friend (a virgin) just like you. He says, "What am I supposed to talk about with girls? I feel it's a waste of time to just talk about some bullshit that neither is interested in."

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Bhai, try and study or work abroad. I feel what your saying, for you local boys the local girls can be a tough cookie to crack. Funny thing is that when us foreign born desi's go to back to the old country we generally don;t have trouble getting some action. I visit the oukd country on a regular basis and always get some. I suppose that us foreign born desis's have much more of a dhv over there. If your post is not a troll post then I wish you luck bro. Forget remembering lines and moves, get your inner game sorted out first and become a '; genuinely' confident man.

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Youll need a lot of comfort building, put them in friend zone to ease the comfort process, then keep pushing in isolation by talking about liberal ideas and how indian society discriminates female sexuality. keep pushing by making them them rebel.

for indian dude west is no diff. youll be discriminated all the times and have to work like a dog just to get a make out so dont bother with thinking west is any easy.

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Suddenly this thread has just climbed up a few rungs of the troll ladder.

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Don't worry about hurting the girls. First learn how to get laid, then you can figure out how to deal with their emotional BS after.

Just focus on the following:

- Get a girl to spend time with you
- Bring her to a room where it's just you and her
- Go FOR THE BANG

And then tell us what happens.

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(02-01-2013 02:40 AM)FunctionalPsycho Wrote:  I want to share love and joy

quality.

I'm using that with the next girl I meet. With a completely straight face I am going to tell her I want to share love and joy with her. I can definitely pull that off.

Cheers!

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Any more advice??

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A) look for girls in your city who are more Westernized. The ones who make a point to not wear a sari, to listen to American music, etc.

B) get in the habit of talking to/practicing game on every girl you meet. This will give you good experience and may reveal girls who seem conservative on the outside but who would be down for a good dicking.

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read Bojangles new post on Return of Kings

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Just to corroborate FP's original post, here's a youtube video my desi friend showed me recently. Bollywood may affect women AND men's perceptions just as much as Hollywood, but who is surprised when reality doesn't meet the big screen? I'm entirely sure many unhappy relationships are the product of unrealistic mindsets about "romance".





I know there is the stigma of the IRT here, but all I can say is that my bro from Maharashtra, who is here in the US, has more natural game than anyone I know. He does many approaches at night, rambles, kinos, and cocky/funny game, doesn't put the pussy on a pedestal, all without ever reading material. Sometimes I cringe when he makes mistakes that material would have helped him succeed more here and there, but he doesn't care because, numbers game wise, he does just fine, and it's with both ABCDs (American Born Confused Desi), white girls, spanish girls, native desi - doesn't matter, he gets it done.

Point is that FP's post is not complaining about being Indian, it's asking for advice for another cultural situation much like Roosh might complain about Denmark sucking.

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Forget about all that rubbish, seeing you guys in India understand Computer Speak better than anybody else, i need you to write me a program to reverse engineer data from a website

Email me if your interested or know of a PC expert and contact me directly.

Cheers

PS/ Just more to Australia like all your other Indian brothers, we need somebody here to do work

"Lifes about, shooting your load"