Post: #1

So I am a bit perplexed here. I have had the opportunity to meet 2 different girls in college that are both intelligent (but not overly intellectual), have banging bodies/sexy faces, and are fairly domestic. Both cook, clean, and are upfront about returning phone calls/tell me that they like/love me. I am somewhat caught off guard as I intended to smash and move on.

How are others who encountered these types of girls dealing with the situation? Beta game? Alpha with less aloofness?

In many ways, I could care less about how things will turn out as I am planning on leaving Boston before the end of this year. I am debating whether its worth sticking with these 2, while working on my goals or casting one aside and continue to be on the prowl?

Don't get me wrong, these girls may be slores when I'm not there, but they seem to at least put on the illusion of a 1950s housewife.

Post: #2

Traditional white girls that cook and clean?

Did hell just freeze over? lol.

Post: #3

(02-07-2013 01:40 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  Traditional white girls that cook and clean?

Did hell just freeze over? lol.

My point exactly!

Girl #2 baked cookies and dropped them off at my work,just because I was working late. (I thought to myself: WTF just happened here?)

Post: #4

Probably one of those New England keepers from a well off traditional family.

Post: #5

(02-07-2013 01:48 AM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 01:40 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  Traditional white girls that cook and clean?

Did hell just freeze over? lol.

My point exactly!

Girl #2 baked cookies and dropped them off at my work,just because I was working late. (I thought to myself: WTF just happened here?)

And you say you've met two girls exhibiting such traits? This is the Game equivalent of hooking a coelacanth in your neighborhood fishing hole just before discovering a thicket of Wollemi pines in the woods behind your house.

Post: #6

If you are happy in the situation, keep with them. Sometimes it is hard to understand that there are still women like this in the world, but the reality is still that if you spend less time online, in bars, and pursuing more traditional hobbies there are still many good quality women around.

Perhaps you have a "curse" of sorts. I can relate, as I fall ass backwards into relationships with good quality, traditional minded women who treat me like gold.

Sometimes I see it as a curse as it makes chasing skirt a little harder on the conscious and it makes break ups more emotional. But other times, fuck that it feels great to be with a woman who is sexy, fun, cooks well, enjoys taking care of me and is a pleasure to be around.

It is what it is. Think of the flip side and enjoy the cookies.

Post: #7

So, you have 2 white girls with banging bodies and cute faces who treat you good and tell you they love you.

And, your question is how to handle them..???

Ummm, I would just enjoy banging them. If you really don't want to settle down then who cares what happens. If you lose them, who cares?

Push for a threesome, try to get money from them, game their dad to improve your business network. If you just intend to bang them and move on, then it doesn't matter what you do. Suggest an open relationship. Make some homemade porn so you will remember them forever.

If you decide you want to be with one or both of them, just continue being your alpha self.

I say date both of them until you get bored of them.

Post: #8

Some possibilities:

- you're in a good location. i.e. it's a cultural thing in your particular area. There are certainly cultural remnants out there in some regions.

- you're excited at getting laid freely for the first time and you are unintentionally exaggerating these girls' virtues. Hey, we all brag that our first cute chick was an 8 when actually she's only a 6, it's natural.

- you are actually a male "9" although you don't realise it. Boston old money with a yacht and a year-round tan perhaps? Your high value is getting the ladies to bring their A-game.

-you're really lucky and you'll spend the rest of your life trying to recapture this golden moment

Anyway, just enjoy. Maybe marry both, but don't marry one of them.

Post: #9

Three things

1) You already know the answer - You have to keep treating them the same way that you have been treating them, and possibly ramp it up.

Ms. Chocolate Chip is rewarding your behavior with her behavior.

If the tables were turned, and she stopped cooking for you, you'd be less enthused about her. If she does more of what she's doing, you'd like her more.

Don't turn the tables.

2) The broader issue is do you want this kinda burden in your life? Especially if you plan on playing the field.

If this is what a man has to do in order to make a woman do what he wants her to do, is the whole enterprise something that the man truly wants?

Heavy is the head that wears the crown. You've got all the power, but all of the responsibility and accountability for your decisions, her emotional world, and the fall out from it.

It's taxing, and personally I don't find it particularly rewarding.

3) Will decreasing your level of psycho/social dominance over a girl allow you to make a smooth exit?

Can you go beta to make her break up with you? So you don't have to do the dirty work yourself?

All signs point to no. You go beta, she stays and nags until you Man Up, or she finds a real man. (this may be subconscious on her part, as most hypergamy is. )

In the mean time, for her having a man at home is fine, she'll have no problem slutting it up, or finding the next guy to break up with you. (it's not like she doesn't get offers)

And during this transitional relationship, you will ease back, get soft, and get emotionally involved with her. But as you're checking into the relationship, the pair bonding is wearing off on her end.

From there, you can find yourself at the wrong end of a break up. Out of shape, out of practice, and hurt emotionally.

This track backs to a lot of what we say on this board. If you want different results than the rest of the men out there, you have to do different things, you have to become a different person. And becoming this new person is not only difficult, once you get there, it doesn't get any easier.

You don't get to coast, ever.

WIA

Post: #10

I was in your situation seven months ago. I openly told them that I am not the type who'll go for commitment, and they were ok with that for some time. After a while, one of them dropped out because it "seemed immoral and wrong", and the other one was so good to me that she became my girlfriend and stayed my girlfriend to this day.

If you plan to use them just for bangs, tell them in a subtle way that they can't expect commitment from you. Even in my country (slavic "patriarchal" traditional country) girls like that are starting to become rare because of influx of facebook, western media etc. so you should show them that men value those traits.

The oint is, if you hurt them you risk creating two more bitter shitty feminists.

Post: #11

(02-07-2013 02:01 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  Probably one of those New England keepers from a well off traditional family.

One is from Iowa, the other from Connecticut. You're right about the second one being from a well off traditional family.

Post: #12

(02-07-2013 02:52 AM)Laner Wrote:  If you are happy in the situation, keep with them. Sometimes it is hard to understand that there are still women like this in the world, but the reality is still that if you spend less time online, in bars, and pursuing more traditional hobbies there are still many good quality women around.

Perhaps you have a "curse" of sorts. I can relate, as I fall ass backwards into relationships with good quality, traditional minded women who treat me like gold.

Sometimes I see it as a curse as it makes chasing skirt a little harder on the conscious and it makes break ups more emotional. But other times, fuck that it feels great to be with a woman who is sexy, fun, cooks well, enjoys taking care of me and is a pleasure to be around.

It is what it is. Think of the flip side and enjoy the cookies.

I have never experienced this before. I asked them both if they had immigrant parents, because I have yet to meet white girls with these values.

Girl #1 said that she would make me anything I liked. She's been making lobsters and steak 2X week for the past 3 weeks. This week, I'm going to pick up the lobster and steak for her. Poor girl is a student.

It's weird -- Now, I don't mind spending money on these broads anymore. Things have turned upside down for me.

Post: #13

(02-07-2013 02:57 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  So, you have 2 white girls with banging bodies and cute faces who treat you good and tell you they love you.

And, your question is how to handle them..???

Ummm, I would just enjoy banging them. If you really don't want to settle down then who cares what happens. If you lose them, who cares?

Push for a threesome, try to get money from them, game their dad to improve your business network. If you just intend to bang them and move on, then it doesn't matter what you do. Suggest an open relationship. Make some homemade porn so you will remember them forever.

If you decide you want to be with one or both of them, just continue being your alpha self.

I say date both of them until you get bored of them.

That's solid advice Gio -- I have been limited on time for a while now, so this might be the way to go. Unfortunately, I get tired of banging the same girls, so I may need to add/drop 1.

Post: #14

(02-07-2013 02:15 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 02:01 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  Probably one of those New England keepers from a well off traditional family.

One is from Iowa, the other from Connecticut. You're right about the second one being from a well off traditional family.

I'm from CT and never had too many problems with girls there (except in shitholes like Bridgeport) Most 90% or so of my female classmates all are married with kids, cook etc.

Post: #15

(02-07-2013 03:14 AM)RawGod Wrote:  Some possibilities:

- you're in a good location. i.e. it's a cultural thing in your particular area. There are certainly cultural remnants out there in some regions.

- you're excited at getting laid freely for the first time and you are unintentionally exaggerating these girls' virtues. Hey, we all brag that our first cute chick was an 8 when actually she's only a 6, it's natural.

- you are actually a male "9" although you don't realise it. Boston old money with a yacht and a year-round tan perhaps? Your high value is getting the ladies to bring their A-game.

-you're really lucky and you'll spend the rest of your life trying to recapture this golden moment

Anyway, just enjoy. Maybe marry both, but don't marry one of them.

I like reviewing your possibilities:

- I am in New England. Not sure if its a regional thing. I associate this type of behavior from the South more than anything else.
- ROFL. I know you don't know me, but let me just say that I am definitely not new to this thing. I have been carrying a rotation of 2-3 females for some time now. Have had some wild experiences along the way. This thing caught me off guard for sure.
-I'm neither old money nor own a yacht. I am tan all year round (Middle Eastern) and definitely have a solid education, the look, and make decent $, however I am far from a Male "9."
- I definitely see this the strongest possibility. I do feel like I lucked out and this is a passing moment in my life.

Good stuff.

Post: #16

I don't understand - did you make this thread to brag? Because you want a forum of strange men to set your preferences for you? Aware me bro.

Post: #17

(02-07-2013 03:21 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Three things

1) You already know the answer - You have to keep treating them the same way that you have been treating them, and possibly ramp it up.

Ms. Chocolate Chip is rewarding your behavior with her behavior.

If the tables were turned, and she stopped cooking for you, you'd be less enthused about her. If she does more of what she's doing, you'd like her more.

Don't turn the tables.

2) The broader issue is do you want this kinda burden in your life? Especially if you plan on playing the field.

If this is what a man has to do in order to make a woman do what he wants her to do, is the whole enterprise something that the man truly wants?

Heavy is the head that wears the crown. You've got all the power, but all of the responsibility and accountability for your decisions, her emotional world, and the fall out from it.

It's taxing, and personally I don't find it particularly rewarding.

3) Will decreasing your level of psycho/social dominance over a girl allow you to make a smooth exit?

Can you go beta to make her break up with you? So you don't have to do the dirty work yourself?

All signs point to no. You go beta, she stays and nags until you Man Up, or she finds a real man. (this may be subconscious on her part, as most hypergamy is. )

In the mean time, for her having a man at home is fine, she'll have no problem slutting it up, or finding the next guy to break up with you. (it's not like she doesn't get offers)

And during this transitional relationship, you will ease back, get soft, and get emotionally involved with her. But as you're checking into the relationship, the pair bonding is wearing off on her end.

From there, you can find yourself at the wrong end of a break up. Out of shape, out of practice, and hurt emotionally.

This track backs to a lot of what we say on this board. If you want different results than the rest of the men out there, you have to do different things, you have to become a different person. And becoming this new person is not only difficult, once you get there, it doesn't get any easier.

You don't get to coast, ever.

WIA

WIA, You got some razor sharp insights, bro.

1) I see what you mean about the beta backslide. I am trying to avoid that. Instead of going out, I end up at these girl's cribs on a Friday and Saturday night. We have dinner (that she made), watch a little tv/movies or drink martinis/wine, smash, and go to sleep. Girl #1 does my laundry, Girl #2 cleans my crib. It's tough not to be appreciative of the situation.

2) I feel you on the taxing part. Between spending the weekend between these two: having smashed multiple times, had good food -- its pretty hard to go out in beast mode on a Wednesday. Plus the texts, phone calls -- one is needier than the other, but I could see this shit blowing up in my face.

3) This is what I am afraid of -- being on the wrong side of the emotions. Mentally, I could take it or leave it right now -- but you're absolutely right in saying that shit could go south on both ends. On the flip side, I am planning on exiting my city by the end of the year so in my mind, there is already an end date for this situation.

But no doubt, it doesn't get easier. Most people reading this thread are thinking "how is this even a problem" but the truth is that it really never becomes "easier" no such thing as coasting.

Good looks.

Post: #18

(02-07-2013 06:07 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  I was in your situation seven months ago. I openly told them that I am not the type who'll go for commitment, and they were ok with that for some time. After a while, one of them dropped out because it "seemed immoral and wrong", and the other one was so good to me that she became my girlfriend and stayed my girlfriend to this day.

If you plan to use them just for bangs, tell them in a subtle way that they can't expect commitment from you. Even in my country (slavic "patriarchal" traditional country) girls like that are starting to become rare because of influx of facebook, western media etc. so you should show them that men value those traits.

The oint is, if you hurt them you risk creating two more bitter shitty feminists.

I hear you on this -- I have already told one that I'll be moving by the end of the year, so there is that end down the road.

Definitely not my intention to create more shitty feminists.

Post: #19

(02-07-2013 02:32 PM)basilransom Wrote:  I don't understand - did you make this thread to brag? Because you want a forum of strange men to set your preferences for you? Aware me bro.

Basil, the intent is hardly to brag. Let break it down to you:

- Bitchy females have been the norm for me. Pump, dump and on to the next one. This whole touchy feely, I care enough to cook/clean thing has caught me off guard. I am trying to deal.
- Exit strategy: Check WIA and Gio's responses. I think its critical to not be "lost in the moment" when the shit is good, don't neuter your game.

I don't consider this to be a forum of strange men. I have been off and on this forum for many years -- the insights from many of the members exceed their value in gold.

These girls, while attractive, are hardly dime pieces, and its not like I am getting 3somes from them on reg.

Post: #20

(02-07-2013 02:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 02:15 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 02:01 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  Probably one of those New England keepers from a well off traditional family.

One is from Iowa, the other from Connecticut. You're right about the second one being from a well off traditional family.

I'm from CT and never had too many problems with girls there (except in shitholes like Bridgeport) Most 90% or so of my female classmates all are married with kids, cook etc.

Maybe you're on to something El. Mech. I just haven't come across CT girls like that. I have smashed the career, cock carouseling, attention whoring females from CT in the past.

Post: #21

(02-07-2013 02:22 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  Unfortunately, I get tired of banging the same girls,

Yes, we all get tired of banging the same girls over and over again.

(02-07-2013 02:22 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  so I may need to add/drop 1.

Don't drop any of them. Add more.

I think adding another one would be awesome. 3 young, college girls sound like a good harem. Add a girl and push for a 4-some, get it all on video. Get them to do a lesbian sex show for you. Get them to bang your friends and charge your friends money. If you don't care about losing these girls then what does it matter? Try to pimp them. If they don't like it, they are free to leave.

You say you don't have time to spend with all these girls? What else are you doing that is so important? Maybe, you should work a little less and just enjoy your harem. Make these girls give you money to subsidize your income.

Enjoy your harem. These moments don't last forever.

Post: #22

(02-07-2013 01:40 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  Traditional white girls that cook and clean?

Did hell just freeze over? lol.

AMISH?

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

Post: #23

I was in the same situation last year, just with a Korean chic. Extremely sweet girl who would cook for me all the time. Even when she found out I was screwing another girl, we still slept together (which isn't that odd, considering we were basically fuck buddies).

I didn't bother to adjust my behavior, so she didn't really adjust hers, either. I would suggest the same for you. You must be doing something right.

Post: #24

(02-07-2013 01:25 AM)BostonBMW Wrote:  So I am a bit perplexed here. I have had the opportunity to meet 2 different girls in college that are both intelligent (but not overly intellectual), have banging bodies/sexy faces, and are fairly domestic. Both cook, clean, and are upfront about returning phone calls/tell me that they like/love me. I am somewhat caught off guard as I intended to smash and move on.

How are others who encountered these types of girls dealing with the situation? Beta game? Alpha with less aloofness?

In many ways, I could care less about how things will turn out as I am planning on leaving Boston before the end of this year. I am debating whether its worth sticking with these 2, while working on my goals or casting one aside and continue to be on the prowl?

Don't get me wrong, these girls may be slores when I'm not there, but they seem to at least put on the illusion of a 1950s housewife.

You say you couldn't care less...but you give the impression that this has you in a quandary...
my advice is to work out what your own true emotions are on the subject..if "game" is your game, then the advice to add extra girls on top is the smart advice...if you are actually feeling some connection - you either cut them and fuck anything that moves for a while..or you try the serious business of seeing if one of them could be a keeper...

work out for yourself what you are actually wanting and feel...and then act accordingly.

Post: #25

(02-07-2013 04:19 PM)RASER Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 01:40 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  Traditional white girls that cook and clean?

Did hell just freeze over? lol.

AMISH?

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

Mormon ?