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[quote='Leonard']What you're actually doing is giving them a chance to look at you and
fall into an honest moment of gaze and body language at a time they don't suspect you're judging their reactions.
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Related:
I wrote a similar post on here in the past that I can't find about using this female instinct of women to openly-perv when they think they're not being observed on a Street Level.
Basically:
- you're walking towards each other on a street, or a mall concourse, or across a park;
- you both make eye contact, and you notice the female sexual submission signal - sudden downcast eyes to the side - when she sees you looking back at her. You need to learn how to tell this signal apart from a woman trying to avoid your gaze entirely out of discomfort. A disinterested woman won't even go that far. She'll look at you, and you'll see yourself
cease to exist as far as she's concerned a few milliseconds later, unless you can serve some kind of workhorse function.
- so if you see the submissive signal
this is when you need to grant her permission to openly 'check you out';
- turn your head away like and look firmly in a direction away from her, like you've noticed something important;
- she now thinks she's invisible and can safely check you out without you noticeable;
- a few seconds later, turn your head back and meet her eyes again; and 'catch her in the act';
- Women seem to have slower reaction times than men when their sexual brain is in control, so you should be able to meet her eyes before she realises you're looking back at her;
- you should be able to fire off a "I see what you're doing, you naughty girl" grin her way in that moment.
- This is a good sign that she's open to game - remember it's a good natured, gentle-teasing type of embarrassment - though, obviously no guarantee that your game or circumstances won't fuck it up.
See also this from Jan 2014: note the 'mate I took to the doctor' was was the gym mate of mine with the obese controlling bitch of a girlfriend who died in early December last year. Women were constantly checking him out whilst pretending to be doing something else, and if he'd had any kind of situational awareness he could have easily traded up.
[quote]This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say I'm aware of how women react to a muscular man in their presence. I had a mate in my early 20's who wasn't built, but was male model handsome. Exact same thing. The subtle, quick glances pretending they're looking at something else. Touching the hair. Reaching for the phone. Looking at something on a shelf next to you, then 'sideways eyes'. It's easy to notice who is open to day game. You just have to be hyper-observant of everything happening around you.
I took a mate - the one I'm worried is gay - to the Doctor a few months back, and I noticed he could have opened every single woman in the place by these kind of cues. The receptionist was pretending to work on her computer but constantly scanned his biceps as often as she dared he filled out a form for her. He seemed unaware of it. Even crossing the road as we left, the girl driving past us was looking at our crotches, and not the road. I laughed about it after she passed. He didn't notice.
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[quote='Hazaer"]
In a social setting like at college, it is quite difficult to get success with the 'lone wolf' game. You are either 'in' or 'out'. Girls seem more comfortable banging guys who are in their group and that is the only way to get introduced to more girls. In fact if you are half way in with a group, I realize girls dont even want to engage much unless she is already a little into your looks/style.
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You have to be interesting and good-natured enough as an outsider that you should be able float between social cliques that you're not fully-committed to without causing resentment.
You don't need the approval of the clique, they should be wanting you to confirm the coolness of their clique via your approval.
This has uses beyond game in terms of career networking, sales or rep work. A mate I spoke about on here recently - who had the best comeback to a woman who said 'This is why you're single' - works as a very successful company rep: all he's functionally-doing is being likable, cool and enjoyable company to whatever group he finds himself having to approach, the result of which can be enormous contracts for his company, based on nothing more on the fact he's good-looking, cheeky and entertaining to talk to. (This is also why he has multiple mistresses in every town he travels to).
If you have no networking skills this way, take some classes.
[quote]when you start gaming a girl, one has to switch gears to 'deep' conversation and that seems to be a challenge[/quote]
I've written about this before in terms of getting her to talk about her personal experience of the world via sensation - feel / hear / see / smell / touch / taste - instead of anything more serious, such as politics or religion. Get her to use her words, which opens herself up to her emotional experience of events, which is how women operate.
I rarely talk directly about my own feelings and emotions, only to initiate a conversation topic and always in a removed sense, since women have little interest in male emotion that doesn't directly relate to his feelings about her . As such, I instead speak generally, "well, for some people....", which translates as wisdom, social understanding and experience of others. (Being blunt, I have that). The most common thing I hear from women is that I'm a 'good listener': all I'm doing is allowing them permission to speak about themselves, and offering perspective. This also allows me to get to know women as sex, which is why the second most common thing I hear from women is "How do you know me?" (in terms of understanding their hidden feelings).
I stumbled across an old thread where I called out Tomi Lahren yesterday, and noticed this little tidbit I'd written. Pay attention:
[quote]I was gaming a Polish Girl recently - the conversation had turned unexpectedly-spiritual, probably due to our shared experience of us both nursing dying parents - and I bought up the fact that because I've trained myself to not need luxury to be happy, the universe always seems to provides for me.
She thought about this and basically said "This will sound foolish, but many times in life I've found myself realising I've gotten exactly what I wished for at sometime during the past."
I recognise this. "Funny how that happens, isn't it?"
She paused, gathering her thoughts. "Well, that's the thing..."
I lock eyes. "... it's never exactly what you expected, is it?"
"How did you know?"
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Note her response. What that functionally means to her is "This man truly understands me." This forms intimacy.
But also note my use of language.
"It's never exactly what YOU expected, IS IT?"
YOU = See how I personalise what I've learnt from my experience purely to her emotional experience, so, whilst I'm functionally talking about my experience of the world, she hears it as talking about herself. IS IT? = is an invitation to keep talking. "Tell me more..."
Read my post here, and note how I tell the best way to frame and not frame emotional experience with women, and how not to risk appearing
too glib.
/thread-28919...pid1001200
Incidentally, seeing the date on that post, I can now see exactly where one of the best songs I ever wrote came from, and why it is so compassionate in nature, and why women seem to love that one in particular. Interesting.
[quote]Teasing her too much might make her feel rejected or think you are 'mean'[/quote]
You have to know how to tease effectively. In the case of that woman bragging about her hobby being 'blue balling' men, you're letting some air out of her tyres with a smirk. You're not stabbing the tyres with a switchblade. This is why women are terrible at delivering wit and sarcasm: it always has a sharp, nasty edge, suggesting too much emotional investment and resentment - see the recent thread of the Hispanic guy Dining and Dashing in California when i point out the obvious feminine resentment seething from the male writer, which is why none of his 'jokes' read as funny.
Wit is best delivered without any negative emotional investment whatsoever. Grin, smirk, move on. Do it right, and you will be the only man in that group whose approval she will care about gaining.
This is why I find the net an ineffective way to communicate: something like my putdown of Chelsea Handler in the Trump Thread yesterday can read as vicious brutal, whereas she's of no real concern to me whatsover. I'm just amusing myself at her expense in passing.
[quote]If that was just 2 different girls instead of mother and daughter in another situation and you have got your eye on one of them how would you escalate?[/quote]
Game both, so the one you don't want doesn't cockblock you when the conversation gets more intimate with the one you want. Ask her to dance, change location within the environment, or a change of venue, the other girl will get the hint, but also won't reflexively protect her friend if she also likes having you around.
[quote]As another aside, I have seen guys showing their phone to girls about some interesting stuff after isolation. I am guessing that in this day and age, it shows her that he is quite interesting. Anything that you suggest to have in the phone handy when words run out? Unfortunately, I dont have fancy pictures of cool spots around the world with me in it to show yet.[/quote]
That's a question for a younger guy than me. Personally, with younger women, I wouldn't want to remind her that her own phone exists.
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