Post: #26

A girlfriend is just like a prison warden. The warden keeps the cells cool and feeds salt peter to control your aggression. Your girl keeps your balls drained and feeds you so you don't need to hunt. The problem is they don't know how to do this anymore because of self entitlement. Now we remain as hunters.

Post: #27

(04-27-2013 11:49 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I always wanted to start a thread called "committed LTR = decrease in game?" All these stories and personal experience yield the same answer. Yes. If a hardened player goes without chasing for a long enough time, the social changes move too fast so you can't adapt... Leads to failure.

The guys looking to find a wife on this forum are gonna hate me for this, but if you stay in a committed relationship without cheating on the side, your game will only decline.

(04-27-2013 11:39 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(04-27-2013 11:04 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(04-27-2013 10:56 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(04-27-2013 08:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.

Yep, I was the same. I got laid once in high school (15 or 16) and then didn't get ass again until I was 19. Once I turned 21 I started to step up my game. Most of my friends in high school got a lot of ass and would give me a hard time for having huge dry spells. I always hung out with cute girls, and even dated a few, but they would never let me fuck. I was too nice. I would only get to finger them and mess around, but never fuck. The tables turned though once I started banging good looking girls. It took me banging one real good looking girl that made me gain a lot of confidence. After that I decided, shit, if I can bang her, I can bang lots of cute girls. Shortly after I found this forum. It definitely helped me step up my game and I got a lot of good info from many experienced players. Now a days, a lot of my friends who were banging left and right in high school and my earlier days wish they were banging the girls I am now. They compliment me now when they see the girls I'm banging. They are banging 5's and 6's, some even lower. Many of them lost their touch. How the tides can turn. Some of them though still have it, but now I can keep up.

How did your boys lose their game?

Always searching for 35+ y/o players to see the long term.

Lots of different ways. A handful got into LTRs and dated the girls for a long time, became big time pussy whooped and got dumped. My high school best friend was such a pimp. He took half the hot girls in my class virginity. He got in a LTR with an average looking girl, maybe a 6 (She wore way too much makeup, when it came off def a 5 or 6, with it on a 7). His break up crushed him. They dated something like 7 years. Pretty sure he still isn't over it after 4 years of being broken up. Now he's banging bottom of the barrel girls.

Another one I just saw on facebook is dating a girl that had a crush on me in high school that I wouldn't bang on my dry spell. She was a HUGE slut. There was a party where there was a line going to the bathroom to get sucked off by this girl. She sucked at least 4 different dicks that night and fucked two dudes. My boy used to get a lot of ass. Same thing, got in a LTR, had a kid with the girl, girl cheated on him, and even worse, SHE BANGED HIS DAD!!!!!! Not even kidding bro. Pretty sure that fucked him up pretty bad.

Others, similar stories, or drugs. All sorts of reasons. A lot of the dudes who were killing it in high school became lame ass low lives. I'm glad I didn't stick around after high school or I might be in the same boat. A lot of them haven't even been anywhere other than Nevada, Cali, Utah, and AZ, all of which are less than an hour and a half from where we live(d). Another thing was we grew up in a small town outside of Vegas. Most of the good looking girls we grew up with went out of state for college. The others started venturing into Vegas and realized a lot of the dudes in our town were lame asses. Very few of my friends growing up went to college, many still live in the same town of less than 20k and are doing shit with their lives. I feel sorry for these guys when I go back home and visit. It's kind of depressing. Most of them are trying to bang girls we went to high school with. What a shitty deal for them.

I totally agree and will admit that when I got in relationships, once I got out I was rusty. I'm in a relationship now but I also cheat.

Post: #28

Best el mech quote I've ever seen.

(04-27-2013 11:52 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  A girlfriend is just like a prison warden. The warden keeps the cells cool and feeds salt peter to control your aggression. Your girl keeps your balls drained and feeds you so you don't need to hunt. The problem is they don't know how to do this anymore because of self entitlement. Now we remain as hunters.

@IP agree as well. You have to keep chasing even with someone there, things change fast, the game I ran 5 years ago would never work today. Adapt or die.

Post: #29

(04-27-2013 11:52 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  A girlfriend is just like a prison warden. The warden keeps the cells cool and feeds salt peter to control your aggression. Your girl keeps your balls drained and feeds you so you don't need to hunt. The problem is they don't know how to do this anymore because of self entitlement. Now we remain as hunters.

Blue-collar wisdom brought to you by El Mechanico.

   

Post: #30

I've always felt like an outsider. Always had trouble relating to people. Cold, distant, awkward. Had to learn about game to figure out how to get laid.

Post: #31

(04-28-2013 12:25 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  I've always felt like an outsider. Always had trouble relating to people. Cold, distant, awkward. Had to learn about game to figure out how to get laid.

I've gotten colder and more distant after being more acclimated to "game"--in particular, more inured to any individual girls.

They're just packages of ass+tits+face that drift in and out of my life. "Bitches they come and go." I'm always one trip to the club away from having more of them.

I also relate to people much less. The frivolities and vapidness of girls is evermore apparent. Schopenhauer was astute in his observation that girls are half-children. I'm astounded by how most guys are satisfied by tapping the same piece of tired, mediocre pussy day after day.

Post: #32

(04-27-2013 11:49 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I always wanted to start a thread called "committed LTR = decrease in game?" All these stories and personal experience yield the same answer. Yes. If a hardened player goes without chasing for a long enough time, the social changes move too fast so you can't adapt... Leads to failure.

The guys looking to find a wife on this forum are gonna hate me for this, but if you stay in a committed relationship without cheating on the side, your game will only decline.

I find pick up/systematic dating to be something akin to staying fit
- you have to train regularly
- you have to eat well
- you have to push yourself

But if you stop and take a break, you often lose more than you put in, it seems.

I'm just starting to realize that.

More of the red pill, the saga never ends.

WIA

Post: #33

(04-28-2013 01:34 AM)Kabal Wrote:  I'm astounded by how most guys are satisfied by tapping the same piece of tired, mediocre pussy day after day.

You've never been in a relationship with a hot chick that you really liked past the sex?

You get with the right chick and she'll make you feel bigger than who you are. The sex, the cooking, the cleaning, her hotness...all fall to the wayside.

Now you can easily get distracted and not find a chick that does this for you, and chicks have myriad ways of doing so - but the right chick can improve your life in a way that you can not do yourself.

WIA

Post: #34

I made a thread asking if your game ever goes away if you stop using it for a while
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Post: #35

I remember being celibate forever until consciously using some kino, cold reading and hot-cold techniques on my first gf - nothing special, just the kind of basic stuff that feminist environment makes a polite man forget. Of course, that didnt' save me as I was still a mewling Beta, but it did result in breaking the cold streak and starting me off. So game is directly responsible for that.

Thanks game!

Post: #36

(04-28-2013 02:01 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 01:34 AM)Kabal Wrote:  I'm astounded by how most guys are satisfied by tapping the same piece of tired, mediocre pussy day after day.

You've never been in a relationship with a hot chick that you really liked past the sex?

You get with the right chick and she'll make you feel bigger than who you are. The sex, the cooking, the cleaning, her hotness...all fall to the wayside.

Now you can easily get distracted and not find a chick that does this for you, and chicks have myriad ways of doing so - but the right chick can improve your life in a way that you can not do yourself.

WIA

I am not talking about top flight chicks. Hence my inclusion of the word "mediocre."

But, no, while I enjoy the company of some chicks more than others, even when adjusting for hotness, I never feel "enhanced" by a girl.

Post: #37

(04-28-2013 01:34 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 12:25 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  I've always felt like an outsider. Always had trouble relating to people. Cold, distant, awkward. Had to learn about game to figure out how to get laid.

I've gotten colder and more distant after being more acclimated to "game"--in particular, more inured to any individual girls.

They're just packages of ass+tits+face that drift in and out of my life. "Bitches they come and go." I'm always one trip to the club away from having more of them.

I also relate to people much less. The frivolities and vapidness of girls is evermore apparent. Schopenhauer was astute in his observation that girls are half-children. I'm astounded by how most guys are satisfied by tapping the same piece of tired, mediocre pussy day after day.

I can relate to your post-game experiences and views on women. Before the red pill, I was merely, clumsy, awkward, and unsure of myself around the opposite.

Now, I want the whole western world to burn. Women and children first. I doubt I have the empathy or compassion to maintain a 'traditional' relationship in the vanilla sense. I'm at the point where I need to be at least slightly degrading the girl to become excited at the prospect of fucking her.

Post: #38

Yeah, a few girls here and there, but the quality wasn´t exactly what you'd like to tell your friends.

Post: #39

Game helped me find that potential inside me, and helped me express the feelings I had been repressing ever since my balls dropped.

Post: #40

(04-27-2013 11:49 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I always wanted to start a thread called "committed LTR = decrease in game?" All these stories and personal experience yield the same answer. Yes. If a hardened player goes without chasing for a long enough time, the social changes move too fast so you can't adapt... Leads to failure.

The guys looking to find a wife on this forum are gonna hate me for this, but if you stay in a committed relationship without cheating on the side, your game will only decline.

You don't use it, you lose it. It's just like most other skills.

Post: #41

(04-28-2013 01:34 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 12:25 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  I've always felt like an outsider. Always had trouble relating to people. Cold, distant, awkward. Had to learn about game to figure out how to get laid.

I've gotten colder and more distant after being more acclimated to "game"--in particular, more inured to any individual girls.

They're just packages of ass+tits+face that drift in and out of my life. "Bitches they come and go." I'm always one trip to the club away from having more of them.

I also relate to people much less. The frivolities and vapidness of girls is evermore apparent. Schopenhauer was astute in his observation that girls are half-children. I'm astounded by how most guys are satisfied by tapping the same piece of tired, mediocre pussy day after day.

Funny how things circle back around at you. What you say is true. I've gotten colder and more distant. Lizards are essentially fungible. People are easier to read and are therefore less interesting. Girls especially so. And here I thought I was alone in this.

Post: #42

I got laid, but not with the same frequency. The average level of quality was about the same.

Before I even learned about game, I had a girlfriend who turned a blind eye to me cheating on her. That has to count for something.

Post: #43

at 25 i had 40 different girls, and this was without going away to college. I never really knew how/why it happened though. Girls would just be standing there when I turned around smiling at me and before you knew it we were fucking.

I had no game at all.

I was a taker

I took what came to me. luckily i'm tall and confident so lots came to me, but I rarely did any real choosing, they chose me.

And then when we'd get into a relationship, i'd fuck it all up by being beta.

I landed in a marriage at 26 with someone that chose me, not someone I chose.

was divorced at 33.

Game taught me how to become a choser. I've probably doubled my number in the last few years. I pick the chicks I want to bang and which ones to throw away. How to ID the ones I want, how to control them and the frame.

Game raised my quality and most importantly made me the buyer.

Post: #44

(04-26-2013 09:46 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  These were all unintentional long-game kind of deals ie. social circle. They pounced on me as soon as they figured out I was single. Any cold approach I did was horrible

I have a very similar situation to WesternCancer. You can read some about what I posted on my About Page on my blog. I got laid before game, but just barely. This is a way long post, but once I started writing...

Basically, I've never been a bad looking dude, but I was a really late bloomer, didn't have much style, and I had a real dearth of social experience/knowledge all the way through high school. I had friends that were female and could get along with people fine, but I didn't really know how to socialize/network, and I definitely didn't know how to approach girls. I had a HUGE fear of rejection and I just didn't have the confidence that girls were attracted to me, probably stemming from getting rejected hardcore and embarassed on top of it when I was in elementary school.

Funnily enough, looking back at it, I was rejected by the class slut and I was so embarassingly beta I just have to laugh. Unfortunately, I let it set me up for failure by not ever even trying. So, I graduated high school having never asked for a girl's number, never attending any of my school dances, never having even kissed a girl if it hadn't been for a girl in my youth group who was older than me and made a move on me. I dated her briefly, but didn't know I was supposed to call her or go hang out with her and I didn't really know I should escalate more physically. I was pretty fucking ecstatic making out with her the few weeks we dated.

Post high-school I met a girl through a friend who was still in high school (both of them were). She would come to nerd parties we had and I'd joke around with her and then finally realized that she might like me since it seemed like this whole "flirting thing" that people had been talking about was happening. Still, it took me until my friend's mom asked me to house-sit there badass place in the neighborhood where this girl and their whole group of friends lived for me to get the balls to ask her out. Still probably one of the hottest girls I've ever dated, she was half japanese half portuguese and pretty sheltered.

Dated that girl for nearly 2 years, she dumped me (I was too beta, she was going to college). I was in a slump for a bit then started hanging out with old high school friends and a girl that briefly went to my high school but was mutual friends with my friends came and hung out and was living with a mutual friend of ours. The mutual friend basically set us up, invited her over to watch a movie with her boyfriend and her and the friend. Didn't even ask that girl out, just started dating her which ended up being almost 2 and a half years, lost my virginity with that girl at maybe 21 or 22 and finally tried alcohol for the first time around the same age (22 or later).

I'd like to note that apparently she liked me a little in high school and I had NO idea (she was kind of a bitch to me honestly). Slowly after high school it started to come out that a few girls I'd had huge crushes on were actually interested in me then, but I just had NO idea.

Had a rough time with that breakup (again the girl broke up with me, she said she was looking to get married which of course she never did and thankfully I was smart enough then to realize I didn't want to get married for a long time if at all). Towards the end of the relationship I'd decided to try to swing living at a sweet place by the beach with my best friend as my roommate. After the breakup I slowly started becoming more social and drinking/going out more. I started playing beach volleyball and being more active, eventually started pursuing girls just a little while my friend was slutting it up (he was kinda creeper but tried enough and lowered his standards enough to get laid). I never went to college (took some classes while working full time and mostly dropped them) so I missed out on yet another big opportunity to improve my social abilities. Moving to the beach and what ensued is absolutely one of the biggest steps up in my "game."

My newfound social confidence (through experience) started attracting girls to me instead of the other way around and I ended up dating a girl that I thought was really attractive. She studied dance and lives on campus at a college not far from where I lived/worked and she worked 2 blocks away from my place. Dated her for three years and she moved to bumfuck egypt to live with her poor ass family and she eventually became a fitness trainer to the rich/famous, started competing in latin ballroom, etc... This was the first girl I really manned up and asked out and got her number. She thought I wasn't going to call her (because I was pretty drunk when I met her).

I've managed to date some pretty attractive/fit/cool girls through having "some" natural alpha in me, but a lot of beta (which is why the relationships ended). Now I've got a LOT more social experience and confidence (because I started from basically zero AFTER high school/college years), I long ago realized that rejection really isn't anywhere near as bad as I blew it up to be and that failure in and of itself is just practice for success. I don't approach very much, but am slowly getting back into that.

I'm fortunate in that I have a number of attractive female friends (especially through volleyball, but generally with being social/going out/hosting parties at my place) so I can get good interactions with girls and am way more confident/comfortable around them. Many times I've had women comment that I'm mysterious or that they think I'm just really good with women because I know/am confident around lots of women and am a social guy (in their eyes). I also have developed my massage skills and am usually pretty happy to help friends (mostly women, but I'll massage a guy friend to help them out) and do a decent amount of massage trading up to and including right on the beach. Funnily enough while this doesn't get me laid directly it's amazing how jealous/intrigued girls will get when they see me massaging a girl and the girl is in heaven.

Well, this was a lot more than I meant to write, but I hope it helps someone or at least gives a better reference point for where I came from and how I lost my virginity without game, but how limited my knowledge/experience started out as. When I think about it, I'm really surprised I was able to land my first two girlfriends without really ever learning how to ask a girl out or for her number and that I was able to maintain a relationship with them for so relatively long. Man, am I glad I started being more social and found game, though. My life improved so much. Networking/socializing is incredibly powerful.

Post: #45

Anything I got was based almost entirely on appearance and height. I mostly had to learn to stop messing things up for myself. I remember a girl saying I tricked her with my looks. When I learned more, I was surprised I was able to mess up as much as I did and still not have them run off so fast.

Post: #46

(04-30-2013 02:58 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  Game taught me how to become a chooser.

Post: #47

Game actually messed up my Game...lol What I use to do naturally I now think about.

I am striving to be what I once was at 20. I am having to "unlearn" a lot of crap I didn't even realize I had internalized
in this damn country.