Post: #26

I really think that being outgoing/ confident and engaging is a skill that needs to be used or it will regress. I've spent way too long cooped up at home. On thursday I went to a pool party and then Friday chilled with my friends, but since then (until yesterday) I'd just stayed at home for the most part. I have a lot of free weights at home (squat rack, preacher curl, barbells, dumbbells, plates, leg machines, benches) which I got off ebay, so I dont need to leave the house to work off and apart from going to MMA I hadn't left the house for five days. I guess that it was because although confident and loud normally, I am introverted enough to enjoy my own (and my brother's) company and not really get bored at home. Coupled with the lack of parties and the fact that I can't go clubbing yet, I had no reason to go out.
Yesterday when I went into town to get a haircut, I realised how bad this idea is. I was mumbling and not making strong eye contact, etc. However, bantering with my hairdresser helped me warm up and up my game. I then ran into some girls I'm friends with from school and this also helped me to recover from my solitude. So I ended up doing one approach yesterday:
1. I was on the green and saw a girl on her own looking bored. She was pretty hot, and looked like she put effort into her appearance, maybe a 7. I opened with, "hey do you a good place to go for a haircut?". I wasn't sure whether or not to say that I'm from out of town, and in the end I decided to say that I had just moved from a town about an hour away. My justification was going to be that because I have very thick hair my haircuts always come out badly. When I first opened, she seemed quite surprised, and laughed/ giggled. She said that she may not be the best person to ask about boy's haircuts, but that her brother got haircuts from x. In reply I laughed and said that I asked her because she was the only normal person I could see on the green (there were a lot of professionals on their lunch break, and a bunch of hipsters). She laughed and said "Haha what's wrong with them", and pointed to a group of likely gay hipster guys with some really skinny girls. I thought that this could be a shit test and smirked, not replying. Then I introduced myself by saying "I'm Cyr by the way" and she told me her name. I explained how I'd just moved to Exeter and was surprised at how different it was from the city I'd moved from. She talked about how much she hated Exeter and how the city I'd moved from was really nice. I laughed and said that I thought the opposite. At this point I was hoping to move the conversation away from banalities and try to start gaming her. As soon as I said that I thought Exeter was nice, I said "well I'm sorry to ditch you but I've got to go get my haircut so that I can get home and help my parent's unpack. Are you going to Boardmasters (a festival I'm going to tomorrow) by any chance?". Unfortunately she said no. I then said, "all well, it was nice speaking to you", acting as though I was about to leave. Then as an afterthought I said "Actually text me and maybe we can meet up after that. It'd be nice to get to know people and you could see how you're haircut recommendation went". I said the last sentence whilst maintaining strong eye contact and a smirk, hoping to move any potential meeting out of the friend-zone. She said "haha, yeah ok do you want my number then?", to which I replied by nodding and passing her my phone. After that I smiled, said see you soon, and left.
Looking back on it, that was probably my best approach I've done so far, because I got a number, and she seemed quite interested. I probably should have pushed for an insta-date though, as I had nothing to do. Strangely it seems as though after initially pushing away my nerves and going for an approach, I get more nervous as the conversation goes on and end up ejecting perhaps prematurely. This did show me the importance of warming up before though, especially for lower level guys. If I hadn't already done a lot of social interaction that day and practised small talk with girls I knew in a lower risk environment, I wouldn't have done well.

This weekend I'm going to a music festival where I'm hoping to get laid. I'm there for two nights and will just do a ton of approaches until one of them clicks. Moving forward I'm going to try to get of the house for at least a few hours every day so that I can keep improving my game skills.

Post: #27

Fun thread. You're killing it with the progress man. Good luck at the festival.

Also, while you probably overdid it calling that girl chubby, the type of confidence it takes to say something like that to a chick is a necessity. Just don't let it cost you any future layups and you'll be good.

Post: #28

Yeah to be honest I'm not sure why I did that, I was high and feeling funny/ jokey. However I was surprised she took so much offence considering she wasn't even that chubby. Maybe she used to be fat and was self conscious?

Post: #29

I got back from the festival the day before yesterday and unfortunately didn't get laid at all. I must have done over 20 or 30 approaches but I did not even get any make-outs from my approaches. Some of the approaches that I was using are:
"Do you have a light?".
"Do you have the time?".
(Outside a noodle bar, pretending to be wondering whether or not to buy some):
"Are those noodles good?".
"Do you have a programme on the acts?".

I know that asking if a girl has the time is very weak game, but for some reason on the first night I couldn't think of any approaches apart from this. I think that in future I will only use the "do you have a light opener?", and then try to take the girl back to my tent to smoke weed and do bong hits.

On the first night, I just couldn't think of any openers and all of my approaches went pretty badly. In the end I did get with a girl after dancing with her, but it went awry. Having been making out with her for almost fifteen minutes, I decided to try and venue change to another stage before taking her back to my tent and banging. En route to the other stage, I had to go to the toilet, so I told her to wait outside of the portal for me for a few minutes. When I came outside, she was gone. I think that I did a few things wrong. Firstly (and probably most damagingly) when she asked me my age I said I was sixteen. She was seventeen, and probably thought I was 19 or 20. After I first said that I was 16, she laughed and thought that I was joking. I should then have relented and said I'm actually 20, but I instead I pushed the point home. As soon as she realised that I was actually 16, she lost a lot of attraction. I was aware of the fact that she was losing attraction and as such I shouldn't have gone to a toilet right next to the dance tent. It would have been better to quickly piss in the bushes and then immediately start dancing with her. Anyway that girl bailing with me really fucked up my night, because I had already put in a lot of groundwork with her and had done about five dance approaches before she took the bait. On the way back to the campsite, as an option of last resort, I did a few approaches on girls eating around the food vans, asking if it was good, but my heart wasn't in it and my vibe was off.

On the next night I did a ton of approaches between venues, asking for a lighter. Unfortunately, although I often could spark up conversations in this way, I didn't sexualise them enough. Girls would say "nice meeting you" etc. instead of getting with me. I got with another girl that night after a dance approach, and could sense that she was too frigid for a same night lay. Instead of letting the attraction go cold, I made an excuse that I had to help my brother out and left her, making plans to meet tomorrow night. On the way back to the campsite, I saw a girl who used to go to my school. I said hi, and started getting with her after a short introduction, but she is known as a huge slut and I didn't really want to expose myself to that. (Two of my friends who I was camping with have already fucked her, and it would have been humiliating to walk past them with her).

On the final night, I had all sorts of plans about all the approaching I was going to do etc. However, when we were about to go out, my friend took out a bong he had bought and lit it up. I got really high and for about an hour was too fucked up to even leave the tent. When I finally left I was okay for about half an hour. In this time I did a few approaches and just had a good vibe etc. Sadly, I had a really quick and vicious comedown. Only about two hours after my first bong hit I was feeling and very paranoid so ended up going back to the tent and sleeping it off. I should have gone to the afterparty when I woke up, but just didn't have the energy.

Basically, (from a game point of view) it was a sightly disappointing weekend because despite the fact that there were literally thousands of hot girls, I didn't get laid. I should have run more day game at the beach. Also, I think that extended social circle game would have worked well, so we should have camped next to a big group of people from another school we knew and spoke to the girls there. Furthermore, I'm going to try not to smoke weed again, because to be honest it doesn't really add much, and is the wrong thing to take before going out.

Post: #30

So after spending about 200 pounds (when accounting for tickets, travel, food, alcohol etc) on going to a shitty music festival, doing about 30 approaches and not getting laid, I had an ONS with a girl at a party on Saturday night.
She was hot (maybe a 7 or a 7.5) and had a nice face, very hot body. I think that she was partly black, because she had quite black features, despite fairly pale skin. I'd done extensive pre drinks with my friends (including on the train) and was in a very good mood. (I was probably giving off a strong vibe) I'd also recently bought some new clothes and was wearing them, although the effect of this was probably mainly psychological. As soon as I arrived, I noticed that there were a ton of wiling girls and was quite determined to get a notch. Anyway we were quite late and everyone came to introduce themselves to us. I started talking to this girl because she was hot and was giving me a good vibe. Basically opened with hey, whats up etc. We were talking for maybe 30 seconds and then she asked me if I could teach her how to dance. I knew that she was basically expressing interest in me, particularly because she was dancing well before I started speaking to her. I said yeah sure and started dancing with her, before pulling her in and going for the kiss. After making out for a few minutes I said lets go to the fire pit (maybe 100 metres away and on the other side of the party) thinking about venue changes,then picked her up and carried her there. She loved this and said how turned on she was by my body. We were making out for a few minutes there and she complained that she wanted to "go somewhere more private", so I suggested my tent. As soon as we got in the tent, I took my shirt off and undid her bra. She was going to suck my dick, but I just couldn't get hard. It was terrible . She kept saying how I was so hot and she was so horny, but I couldn't get an erection. I guess I was too drunk. I fingered her for a few minutes, and then told her to leave, saying that I'd see her in an hour when I'd sobered up.
I was really pissed off, and thought I'd fucked up. I basically just stayed in my tent for half an hour and listened to music on my own, calming down and trying to remove any anxiety. Then I went outside and bantered with my friends about it. After about an hour, I ran into her again on the dancefloor and started dancing with her and making out. I suggested that we return to the tent and surprisingly she agreed. We ended up just doing it in some bushes outside as she said that was more exciting. To begin with, she said that she'd do anything but sex as she wasn't on the pill but I eventually persuaded her, saying that I had condoms and would be a good dad anyway . I ended up fucking her, and whilst we were having sex, she told me that she felt bad about me not getting hard and thought that it was something that she'd done.
Anyway she was definitely the hottest (out of the three girls I've slept with) that I've banged. Its weird that after basically getting rejected 30 times in a row at a festival where girls should be looking for sex I ended up meeting a girl who was really into me on my very first approach at a party in the middle of nowhere.

I think that parties beat festivals, concerts and even clubs because girl's guards are much lower. Just by being there you are already qualified, particularly if very few people at the party know you (so you aren't just with girls from your social circle). Also, girls often go to festivals to have fun with their friendship group, and their friends often lead them away when you start speaking/ dancing with them. Of course a good player could easily pull from any of these places, so I need to improve.

Post: #31

I went to the beach this morning for a walk with my family and did a few approaches. We were walking along the pier and a girl who had been some way ahead of us had turned around and was walking back the other way. The pier went around a corner and you couldn't see where it ended, so I asked her whether the end was right around the corner. She seemed surprised that I was speaking to her and I think that she may have been foreign because she didn't really understand what I was asking. (I probably have to speak more clearly as well). Anyway I repeated the question and she just said "you'll see" and walked off. It was not done in a friendly way and I was disappointed by her blunt rudeness, particularly because the end of the pier was quite far away. I was walking a little way away from my brothers, so I don't think the fact that I was with family and therefore seemed childish had any part to play.
Tonight I am going to a pool party held by one of my best friends. To begin with he tried to organise the ratios, inviting only 10 boys and 30 girls. Unfortunately, he got a girlfriend (removing much of the impetus for him) as well as inviting more guys and there are now about 45-50 guys going and 30 girls, so like most of the parties in my social circle it will be a sausage fest. Also, most of the girls will come from my school and will likely be frigid/ boring. Still though, hopefully I'll be surprised and get lucky. I think that a really good player could probably pull very consistently at teenage parties, because people are often drunk and on drugs like mdma (as well as being friendly to people they don't know and looking for new sexual experiences), and also the competition is weak. With any luck I'll acquire strong game before this window of opportunity vanishes.

Post: #32

I went to a party Tuesday night and as expected it was quite disappointing. Firstly the ratios were very, very bad. There were about 30 or 40 guys and about 10 girls. Of these girls, a few weren't bangable to begin with, as they were in relationships etc. I did a few approaches and danced with a few girls but it didn't really go anywhere, apart from with one girl who I already knew. I was with her talking, (mainly teasing and joking) but I decided not to escalate, because although she probably passed the boner test (she was maybe a 5-5.5) I couldn't face up to my friends knowing that I'd gotten with/ banged her. I would have had to make out with her etc. in front of everyone and I wasn't really interested in that. If I'd been on my own I would have gone for the bang, but of course there's no guarantee that it would have happened anyway.

Post: #33

Edit: Included the party I went to last night. I didnt have time to write out the post in full so posted it then added more on the bus.
I have done two daytime approaches since the last post:
I was in a coffee shop and saw an okay girl sitting on her own. I sat near her, read my own book for a few minutes and then went to the bathroom. On the way back, I passed her table and asked her if that was a good computer. She was surprisingly cagey and bluntly said that it was ok, but I should read a review on the internet. I couldn't be bothered to continue the interaction after that, so just said ok and left.
I did another approach at a supermarket (whilst quite tipsy/drunk). I was buying beers with my friends and saw a girl on her own. First I made eye contact with her, smiled and then walked over. It was quite a tongue in cheek/ jokey approach. I saw her carrying some value vodka (which is disgusting), so laughed and said I see you've got good taste in drinks. She laughed and said "its not that bad", to which I replied "I know, thats why I didn't say you have bad taste. Anyway where are you going tonight with some of Tesco's finest?" (Tesco being the supermarket brand that this came from). She laughed again and said that I was quite forward and that she was going to a friend's house tonight. I smiled and said "ok then are you free to come to a party tomorrow night?". She then revealed that she had a boyfriend saying "sorry, but I'm seeing my boyfriend tomorrow". I thought that she didn't seem very confident and sensed that she would be willing to cheat, so I said "ok then, can I have your number, so that we can organise something when you're less busy?", whilst maintaining eye contact. She laughed, said we'll see and read off her number. Not one of the numbers Ive gotten have led to anything so far (all flakes), so we'll see.

Yesterday I went to a party which mainly had people from the year above me at school. There were probably about 1/3 girls, 2/3 guys, which is bad but not terrible ratios. However there were too many very enclosed groups, so it was hard to approach. I think that it is better to go to a party with people you dont know than one with people you sort of know, because then it is easier to introduce yourself and game them. I did a few approaches (none of them went too well) but I ended up talking to this girl in the year above me, who is pretty hot - 7/ 7.5. About 8 of us were in a circle talking and she pointed at me and said "you're half iranian aren't you?". I laughed and said "yeah so are you, right?". She smiled and said "half iranian people are the best". At this point some other guy (who she had been talking to and who was going for her very aggressively) said "and half iranian girls are the most beautiful". I smirked and said " I dont know about that, but half iranian guys are the most muscular", whilst bringing my arms up and flexing. She laughed and leaned over and squeezed my arm, then said "ooh its really big". I started speaking to her about her results and what uni she was going to, but it was clear that I wouldnt be getting with her. She was the classic cocktease girl that gets drunk and tries to flirt, but wont even make out with you after speakintg with her for half an hour. I think shes still a virgin though, so I guess shes more of a "good girl" than cocktease.
Anyway I need to ask for help:
At a party, if I have not hooked up with a girl within the first hour or two (so most of the time) I get pissed off and dont have a good time. Not only does this ruin the party, but I think it makes me give off a bad vibe (no one likes a sad guy at a party) and hampers my chances of later pickup. Anyone else experienced this/ any remedies?

Post: #34

So last night I went clubbing for one of the first times. Bouncers let me in without IDing me at 2 different clubs . But it made me realise that I realise that I really need to work on my club/ concert night game. I don't have any solid openers, so I'll have to search the forum and need more practise. Basically last night I danced with a few girls, but I had a sort of brain freeze and could only think of really shitty openers like "hey" "whats up". I don't know why, but I feel like I have more approach anxiety when I have drunk/ smoked weed with night game than day game. Of course the fact that the clubs I was at were set out badly and didn't really have anywhere to sit and chill didn't help me, but if I had better game I could easily have surmounted this.
So over this summer I've improved my day game (although I've gotten flaked on a lot), but moving forward I really want to work more on my night game because I think that this is the easiest way to get laid. Also I've been regretting turning down that girl a week or two ago (who wasn't great but passed the boner test) at a party. Whenever I go to parties, I almost get too much of an abundance mentality and feel that I don't have to worry about turning girls down/ annoying them, because I'll have more chances and this fucks me up. I think I may need to decrease my expectations a little bit as well, because as I mentioned in an earlier post this can lead me to get disappointed if things don't immediately go my way.

Post: #35

I went clubbing again last night (same place). I spoke to the bouncers and bartenders quite a bit, and just tried to build up a bit of rapport with them. It helps that I know one of the bouncers from mma as well, so even if I'm a little young to get places on lock a la gmanifesto, I can still work towards getting better service. Once again I did a lot of openers, but they weren't really cold approaches, more on friends of friends. I ended up getting with a girl after talking to her for a little while, but the logistics (I live in the suburbs and was going to walk the 3 miles home) just werent in place. Anyway at least I got her number, so I'll try to organise something next weekend.