Post: #1

What is the best Middle Eastern Country to game?

Factors:

1. Hot women
2. Responsive, relatively easy women
3. Safety for non native visitors
4. Easy ability to communicate, assuming no knowledge of any local languages
5. Low chance of being in trouble for banging local women--a big problem in some countries?

What about Lebanon, Syria, Turkey or Iran? Or perhaps Morocco, Egypt or Dubai? Or maybe Uzbekistan or Soviet Georgia?

And btw which countries are best to visit? The Turkey to Egypt route?

Post: #2

Israel and Dubai

Post: #3

Dubai is absolutely loaded with prostitutes.

Post: #4

check out israel and Beirut.

Dubai is filled with prostitutes, however your best bet is to frequent expatriate pubs, lots of drunk UK chix there.

Post: #5

Before you go to the Middle East for game, let me offer you one warning.

You know Thailand? The ME is like that ... but for women. It's where frumpy, repressed, overweight Western women go to get some swarthy Arab cock from guys better looking and more alpha than they could land in the States. These guys drive hard to the hoop like Rocky on Adrian in Rocky 1 until these ugly ducklings blossom into ... ugly ducks who think they're dimes.

You won't care so much, though, once you see Middle Eastern women, because after that, you won't really consider American girls women anymore. Somehow even girls wearing hijab manage to look more sexy and feminine than your cornfed American girl in flip flops and a tank top.

The problem of course is swooping them.

The majority of girls in Middle Eastern countries will not have premarital sex at all, or if they do, it's with a guy who they've been with for a while and are planning to marry. In any given country, it's really only the wealthy, Westernized elite girls who are open to be gamed -- so you want to go to where this pool is largest.

Based on your criteria, I would say the best country across the board is Lebanon. The hottest girls in the ME, nearly all of them speak English, and a fairly lax society by ME standards.

Turkey is up there too in terms of responsive women and a permissive society, but they're not as attractive and their English isn't as good.

Jordanian and Syrian girls are nearly as attractive as Lebanese girls, but the pool of Westernized, English-speaking girls is smaller (almost non-existent in Syria) and the society isn't quite as permissive.

If you speak French, North African countries (Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia) are a good bet, and I've known some fairly easy Algerian girls in France, but I haven't been to any of these countries so my data on them is all second-hand.

You'd think Egypt would be good, since on the surface it's very Westernized, but I've never encountered so many societal cockblocks as I did there. For example, hotels will prevent you from bringing an Egyptian girl to your room even if they have no problem with you bringing foreign girls in. Why? It's the law. Also, if you have an apartment, the doormen might not allow you to bring up opposite gender guests. In any case, Egyptian girls aren't as attractive as Shami girls -- fatter faces and bigger noses.

All in all, the ME is one of the most difficult places to game, but I for one find it extremely rewarding. The girls have all the charms of Latinas, but with that added lure of the forbidden. Consider it your ultimate challenge.

Post: #6

I'd say Turkey, the women are hot as fuck, dress sexy, alcohol is permitted, and it's the most liberal Muslim country in the world, aside from maybe Albania (??). Was there is high school with the parents, didn't do any gaming, but probably saw more fine women per capita, then any where else in the world. (especially if you like tan women, with light brown hair, and greenish eyes!!)

Post: #7

(08-23-2010 01:13 PM)naswanji Wrote:  Before you go to the Middle East for game, let me offer you one warning.

You know Thailand? The ME is like that ... but for women. It's where frumpy, repressed, overweight Western women go to get some swarthy Arab cock from guys better looking and more alpha than they could land in the States. These guys drive hard to the hoop like Rocky on Adrian in Rocky 1 until these ugly ducklings blossom into ... ugly ducks who think they're dimes.

You won't care so much, though, once you see Middle Eastern women, because after that, you won't really consider American girls women anymore. Somehow even girls wearing hijab manage to look more sexy and feminine than your cornfed American girl in flip flops and a tank top.

The problem of course is swooping them.

The majority of girls in Middle Eastern countries will not have premarital sex at all, or if they do, it's with a guy who they've been with for a while and are planning to marry. In any given country, it's really only the wealthy, Westernized elite girls who are open to be gamed -- so you want to go to where this pool is largest.

Based on your criteria, I would say the best country across the board is Lebanon. The hottest girls in the ME, nearly all of them speak English, and a fairly lax society by ME standards.

Turkey is up there too in terms of responsive women and a permissive society, but they're not as attractive and their English isn't as good.

Jordanian and Syrian girls are nearly as attractive as Lebanese girls, but the pool of Westernized, English-speaking girls is smaller (almost non-existent in Syria) and the society isn't quite as permissive.

If you speak French, North African countries (Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia) are a good bet, and I've known some fairly easy Algerian girls in France, but I haven't been to any of these countries so my data on them is all second-hand.

You'd think Egypt would be good, since on the surface it's very Westernized, but I've never encountered so many societal cockblocks as I did there. For example, hotels will prevent you from bringing an Egyptian girl to your room even if they have no problem with you bringing foreign girls in. Why? It's the law. Also, if you have an apartment, the doormen might not allow you to bring up opposite gender guests. In any case, Egyptian girls aren't as attractive as Shami girls -- fatter faces and bigger noses.

All in all, the ME is one of the most difficult places to game, but I for one find it extremely rewarding. The girls have all the charms of Latinas, but with that added lure of the forbidden. Consider it your ultimate challenge.

Thanks for the great post. How exactly do Beirut and say Tel Aviv compare to say parts of Latin America or Eastern Europe? Would you say that it is visit worthy? What about Iran or Armenia/Uzbekistan, etc?

Also would you say that it is fairly easy or fairly difficult to get laid in these countries (Lebanon, Jordan/Syria, Turkey, Egypt and Israel).

I have been to Morocco, Istanbul and a few coastal parts of Turkey many years ago, but women really weren't my first priority when visiting, as I found the culture and sights to be so different and a lot of stuff to see. But now that i have been to Islamic countries, i'd be able to better focus on just the women.

Post: #8

(08-23-2010 01:13 PM)naswanji Wrote:  All in all, the ME is one of the most difficult places to game, but I for one find it extremely rewarding. The girls have all the charms of Latinas, but with that added lure of the forbidden. Consider it your ultimate challenge.

Nicely put down!! Forbidden fruits are always sweet

Post: #9

Israel and Lebanon are the most liberal.

I would put Turkey in second.

Then north africa (Morroco, Algeria, Tunisia) are becoming to be liberal, at least the upper-class. You can get laid but you have to live there IMO because you need to know the upper-class and be in their social circle which is pretty easy as a foreigner from a western country. Morroco is the most liberal among the three and free from political trouble and pretty cool to visit. You will find the most liberal girls in Casablanca and Rabat, Marrackech is loaded with prostitutes. Speaking French is a plus.

Post: #10

Having traveled extensively in the Middle East, here is the breakdown of places I went there.

Syria

Damascus - Nice city (well, not anymore but don't even bother visiting for women. There are no bars in Damascus and you can't go to a club unless you bring the girl that you're with. Your chances of hooking up are effectively impossible, especially a ONS. It's a shame because there are very pretty women in Damascus, and many of them are not covered up and wear jeans, etc. Regardless, the culture is too reserved and conservative for any hooking up to be expected.

Jordan

Amman - Hell no. This city is a dump. It's technically against the law in Jordan to date before marriage. Nuff said.

Petra/Wadi Musa - You may find tourists here but most western chicks are here with boyfriends (for obvious reasons). Cool place to check out regardless but hooking up should really be an afterthought.

Israel

Tel Aviv - Now we're talking. Definitely your best chance of hooking up in the Middle East. Pipelining is a good bet as well. I got an Israeli flag at a private party my CS host took me to. There's tons of attractive women. I recommend using CS to infiltrate social circles here. That will go a long way as a lot of women are otherwise aloof. Day game at the beach and on Rothschild Blvd. Israeli women come from all over the world so this place has some of the hottest women you'll find in the ME. The nightlife is great.

Jerusalem - It's a lot different from Tel Aviv and only 40 minutes away so most people don't think of going out in Jerusalem but there's some bars here. Day game on Ben Yehuda Street where there's lots of shops and boutique stores. There's a Waldorf-Astoria hotel opening around there that is surely to have a good bar. That's mainly where you go to hang out in Jerusalem (hotel bars). American Colony Hotel has a bar that's popular with journalists/media people. Can be hit or miss. The Talpiot area has a few bars/clubs.

Yehoshua Bar is one spot I heard that was good for pickup, but I didn't learn about it until after I had left.

You can also day game in the Old City where there's bound to be tourists round the clock.

Lebanon

Beirut - Absolutely hot women here. Hit up Hamra Street for day game (lots of stores/boutiques/coffee shops/hookah spots). Also, check out American University of Beirut.

At night hit up Gemmayze and Acrafieh. Lots of bars and clubs in these areas.

Egypt

Cairo - Don't even think about coming here to get laid. Vast majority of women have on a hijab. I happened to get laid by a wealthy Dominican girl that was traveling here and staying at my hotel but that was pure luck.

Alexandria - Even more conservative than Cairo. Surprising for a port city on the Mediterranean (port cities are usually more liberal). Much of the infrastructure is dilapidated with a few exceptions in certain areas on the coast. If you go here, hit up the Starbucks on the beach (there's only one). It's actually then nicest Starbucks I've ever been to. Huge and very tall (multiple floors).

Turkey

Istanbul - Uniquely liberal city that is literally both in Europe and Asia. Lots to see and do. I hung out mainly in Taksim which has a ton of bars and clubs. I noticed a lot more Turkish dudes than girls out and a lot of them seemed like haters. I hooked up with an American blonde teacher who was living there and got tons of stares from hating dudes there. Can't even imagine what it would be like if I was with a Turkish chick. However, I did meet an American guy who had a decent Turkish girlfriend. Not so sure about the ONS but if you're staying for some time I think you can come up. Definitely worth a visit to try. Typical Turkish girl has dark hair and white skin.

Post: #11

(06-23-2013 09:04 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Having traveled extensively in the Middle East, here is the breakdown of places I went there.

Syria

Damascus - Nice city (well, not anymore but don't even bother visiting for women. There are no bars in Damascus and you can't go to a club unless you bring the girl that you're with. Your chances of hooking up are effectively impossible, especially a ONS. It's a shame because there are very pretty women in Damascus, and many of them are not covered up and wear jeans, etc. Regardless, the culture is too reserved and conservative for any hooking up to be expecting.

Jordan

Amman - Hell no. This city is a dump. It's technically against the law in Jordan to date before marriage. Nuff said.

Petra/Wadi Musa - You may find tourists here but most western chicks are here with boyfriends (for obvious reasons). Cool place to check out regardless but hooking up should really be an afterthought.

Israel

Tel Aviv - Now we're talking. Definitely your best chance of hooking up in the Middle East. Pipelining is a good bet as well. I got an Israeli flag at a private party my CS host took me to. There's tons of attractive women. I recommend using CS to infiltrate social circles here. That will go a long way as a lot of women are otherwise aloof. Day game at the beach and on Rothschild Blvd. Israeli women come from all over the world so this place has some of the hottest women you'll find in the ME. The nightlife is great.

Jerusalem - It's a lot different from Tel Aviv and only 40 minutes away so most people don't think of going out in Jerusalem but there's some bars here. Day game on Ben Yehuda Street where there's lots of shops and boutique stores. There's a Waldorf-Astoria hotel opening around there that is surely to have a good bar. That's mainly where you go to hang out in Jerusalem (hotel bars). American Colony Hotel has a bar that's popular with journalists/media people. Can be hit or miss. The Talpiot area has a few bars/clubs. i

Yehoshua Bar is one spot I heard that was good for pickup, but I didn't learn about it until after I had left.

You can also day game in the Old City where there's bound to be tourists round the clock.

Lebanon

Beirut - Absolutely hot women here. Hit up Hamra Street for day game (lots of stores/boutiques/coffee shops/hookah spots). Also, check out American University of Beirut.

At night hit up Gemmayze and Acrafieh. Lots of bars and clubs in these areas.

Egypt

Cairo - Don't even think about coming here to get laid. Vast majority of women have on a hijab. I happened to get laid by a wealthy Dominican girl that was traveling here and staying at my hotel but that was pure luck.

Alexandria - Even more conservative than Cairo. Surprising for a port city on the Mediterranean (port cities are usually more liberal). Much of the infrastructure is dilapidated with a few exceptions in certain areas on the coast. If you go here, hit up the Starbucks on the beach (there's only one). It's actually then nicest Starbucks I've ever been to. Huge and very tall (multiple floors).

Turkey

Istanbul - Uniquely liberal city that is literally both in Europe and Asia. Lots to see and do. I hung out mainly in Taksim which has a ton of bars and clubs. I noticed a lot more Turkish dudes than girls out and a lot of them seemed like haters. I hooked up with an American blonde teacher who was living there and got tons of stares from hating dudes there. Can't even imagine what it would be like if I was with a Turkish chick. However, I did meet an American guy who had a decent Turkish girlfriend. Not so sure about the ONS but if you're staying for some time I think you can come up. Definitely worth a visit to try. Typical Turkish girl has dark hair and white skin.

From what I heard Egypt is one the worst arab country (with the gulf) in terms of women, they are very conservative and religious. The muslim brotherhood rules the society since a while and now they even have the political power so it's not gonna get better.

That's a shame about Syria, the women are my favorite arab women, and the society is secular. We will see what happen after the civil war.

Post: #12

What about the best spot to pick up ME women outside of ME? Places with the highest concentrations/easiness

Post: #13

@20 Nation

North African : France, Belgium, Montréal
Turkish : Germany
Persian : USA ?
Syrian / Lebanese : they are pretty much spread everywhere Brazil, France, Québec, sub-Saharan Africa french speaking country

Post: #14

(06-23-2013 10:03 AM)20Nation Wrote:  What about the best spot to pick up ME women outside of ME? Places with the highest concentrations/easiness

Montreal

Marseille (France)

Paris

New York

Dearborn, Michigan

Post: #15

I've also been to Morocco and Tunisia. Both places have pretty girls and Tunisia is secular, but there's no ONS/hookup culture. In Morocco, many of the girls you see out at night are p4p. Hotels often cockblock as well. They don't allow you to bring female guests back to the room.

If you speak French/Arabic, you have a leg up. Extra points for being Muslim. In the upper classes you also may find young, single divorced women who have been deflowered and may be receptive.

Post: #16

(06-23-2013 10:52 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I've also been to Morocco and Tunisia. Both places have pretty girls and Tunisia is secular, but there's no ONS/hookup culture. In Morocco, many of the girls you see out at night are p4p. Hotels often cockblock as well. They don't allow you to bring female guests back to the room.

If you speak French/Arabic, you have a leg up. Extra points for being Muslim. In the upper classes you also may find young, single divorced women who have been deflowered and may be receptive.

I do not agree with the fact of being muslim, they are not allowed to have sex before wedding with anybody muslim or non-muslim so if one is ready to fuck with you the fact of being muslim does not matter because it won't change anything for her if the guy who takes her virginity is muslim or not.

Post: #17

(06-23-2013 11:00 AM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 10:52 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I've also been to Morocco and Tunisia. Both places have pretty girls and Tunisia is secular, but there's no ONS/hookup culture. In Morocco, many of the girls you see out at night are p4p. Hotels often cockblock as well. They don't allow you to bring female guests back to the room.

If you speak French/Arabic, you have a leg up. Extra points for being Muslim. In the upper classes you also may find young, single divorced women who have been deflowered and may be receptive.

I do not agree with the fact of being muslim, they are not allowed to have sex before wedding with anybody muslim or non-muslim so if one is ready to fuck with you the fact of being muslim does not matter because it won't change anything for her if the guy who takes her virginity is muslim or not.

Yeah that's "officially" what the culture dictates but in reality it's not the case. The girl in Marrakesh that wanted me to marry her said many of her friends have sex with their boyfriends. Same with Egypt actually. Though there is a cult of virginity in the popular culture, some guys don't care. There is a strain of tolerance and liberalism in places like Tunisia and Morocco. There's even gay communities there believe it or not.

Post: #18

(06-23-2013 11:07 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 11:00 AM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 10:52 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I've also been to Morocco and Tunisia. Both places have pretty girls and Tunisia is secular, but there's no ONS/hookup culture. In Morocco, many of the girls you see out at night are p4p. Hotels often cockblock as well. They don't allow you to bring female guests back to the room.

If you speak French/Arabic, you have a leg up. Extra points for being Muslim. In the upper classes you also may find young, single divorced women who have been deflowered and may be receptive.

I do not agree with the fact of being muslim, they are not allowed to have sex before wedding with anybody muslim or non-muslim so if one is ready to fuck with you the fact of being muslim does not matter because it won't change anything for her if the guy who takes her virginity is muslim or not.

Yeah that's "officially" what the culture dictates but in reality it's not the case. The girl in Marrakesh that wanted me to marry her said many of her friends have sex with their boyfriends. Same with Egypt actually. Though there is a cult of virginity in the popular culture, some guys don't care. There is a strain of tolerance and liberalism in places like Tunisia and Morocco. There's even gay communities there believe it or not.

That was my point, if a girl is down to fuck before wedding being muslim or not doesn't matter. Though some guys lie tell them they are going to marry her just to fuck them and then dump them.

BTW where you were in Morroco did you speak french, english or arab ?

Post: #19

(06-23-2013 11:18 AM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 11:07 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 11:00 AM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 10:52 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I've also been to Morocco and Tunisia. Both places have pretty girls and Tunisia is secular, but there's no ONS/hookup culture. In Morocco, many of the girls you see out at night are p4p. Hotels often cockblock as well. They don't allow you to bring female guests back to the room.

If you speak French/Arabic, you have a leg up. Extra points for being Muslim. In the upper classes you also may find young, single divorced women who have been deflowered and may be receptive.

I do not agree with the fact of being muslim, they are not allowed to have sex before wedding with anybody muslim or non-muslim so if one is ready to fuck with you the fact of being muslim does not matter because it won't change anything for her if the guy who takes her virginity is muslim or not.

Yeah that's "officially" what the culture dictates but in reality it's not the case. The girl in Marrakesh that wanted me to marry her said many of her friends have sex with their boyfriends. Same with Egypt actually. Though there is a cult of virginity in the popular culture, some guys don't care. There is a strain of tolerance and liberalism in places like Tunisia and Morocco. There's even gay communities there believe it or not.

That was my point, if a girl is down to fuck before wedding being muslim or not doesn't matter. Though some guys lie tell them they are going to marry her just to fuck them and then dump them.

BTW where you were in Morroco did you speak french, english or arab ?

Lol. The thing is, in order to marry you, unless the girl is dirt poor and desperate, you have to be Muslim (for them and their families). So they won't fuck before marriage unless you're Muslim. Get it? This will be the case with the vast majority.

Regardless, getting to that point is far from easy. It requires serious boots on the ground.

I spoke English and, to a lesser extent, Spanish. So that means I was interacting with middle to upper class girls. Most of them had master's degrees. In Tangier, many people speak Spanish. You can see Spain from there so that makes sense. Most Moroccans are multilingual.

For ordering stuff at restos and communicating with cabbies, I spoke phrases in Arabic. My parents are fully fluent in Arabic so I grew up knowing some words.

With the exception of Israel, Turkey, and Lebanon, I can't recommend going to these places to get laid. Only go if you have another reason to be there and think about getting laid if you have a lot of time. The culture is a major cockblock.

Israel is the best bet for a lot of reasons (i.e. democratic, secular, diverse), but also because Jewish culture affords women the most freedom compared to Christianity and Islam, since it's passed down maternally. It doesn't matter who a Jewish women sleeps with because if she has a child, it's going to be Jewish. That's why the rapper Drake is 100% legitimately Jewish even though he has a black American father.

For Israel it helps to penetrate a social circle which is why I recommended CS and pipelining. Many of the people have a bond through the military service so if you ingratiate yourself with someone that has a social circle, you'll have a much easier time getting to know people and banging.

Post: #20

1.) Israel, especially if you're Jewish. Tel Aviv is frickin' awesome.
2.) Beirut, Lebanon, but only the nicer areas. There are parts of Beirut that even Navy Seals would fear to tread. If you watch the news, you know why.
3.) If we're including North Africa as part of the Middle East, then Tunis is up there. Very French with elegant women.
4.) Alexandria, Egypt. This place is in my opinion more cosmopolitan than Cairo.
5.) Istanbul, Turkey.

Some people like Dubai, but I disagree. If you don't ostensibly show that you have money, you're a no one there. Fun place to go with friends, but forget meeting women there unless you really are loaded. Most of the women I met there were snobs or guest workers. Actually the later were nice to talk to and had interesting stories about why there were there (the Indians, Filipinos, Pakistanis and Ethiopians). Unfortunately, they're not very bangable.

I've heard good things about Amman, Jordan but never been...

Post: #21

Yeah. I've also been to the Emirates. Not a fan of Dubai really. It's an impressive looking place but I didn't see many bangable chicks that were available. There's also not much to do in the day time except go to malls. I found the weather way too hot to enjoy the beach but I did hit up Jumeirah Beach.

I'll have to go back to get a definitive view because I didn't really go too hard on the nightlife out there. It was a 2-day pit stop en route to Beirut from Eritrea.

Post: #22

I was in Beirut for 10 days back in March. Been meaning to write up on it.

Overview:

The capital of Lebanon, the population is slowly approaching 2 million. Situated on the coast with snow-capped mountain ranges as the backdrop, the setting is pretty spectacular. Make sure to try get a glimpse as you fly into the airport. There is no public transport to the city from the airport so a taxi is necessary. It's 9km from the city and shouldn't be more than $20. Taxi drivers will try to rip you off - I paid $50 but was too jaded after the long flight to care. Main languages are French, Arabic, English - most people seem to have a decent grasp of all three. You can get by with just English without any major difficulties.

The city itself is kind of bizarre. The army is everywhere, there are bullet-ridden buildings, mosques, churches, synagogues and the highest density of high-powered cars I've seen anywhere. It's an interesting city fo' sho'.

Public transport does not exist but shared taxis are cheap as chips. Ask for 'Service' and you'll pay about $.50 to get anywhere in the city.

Accommodation:

I stayed in Gemmayzeh, the christian area in East Beirut. In a place called Saifi Urban Gardens http://www.saifigardens.com/ to be precise. It's $50 for a private room. There is an arabic language school and the bar/cafe gets packed at night with a mix of locals and foreigners, I'd say 70% locals. Hamra seems to be the other popular place to stay. Both are decent areas for nightlife. For those 'balling on a budget', hostel options are pretty limited, but Saifi does a bed in a dorm for $18 per night.

Sightseeing:

Lebanon is small enough that you can base yourself in Beirut and head for other spots on a day trip. I visited Tripoli (north), which is a world away from Beirut, far more 'arabic', conservative middle-eastern feel, but definitely worth a visit.

Honourable mentions to Baalbeck - Massive Roman Temples and birthplace of Hezbollah. You can buy Hezbollah t-shirts off the vendors outside the temple!

Byblos - Small harbour with old souk around 50 mins north of Beirut. You can get a minibus here from 'Cola' (main bus station/roundabout) return for around $2 return.

Also visited Jeita Grotto.

Safety:

Crossing the road is a fucking nightmare. If there are rules of the road, they are wholeheartedly ignored. Common sense here.

Lebanon receives a lot of negative press, and Syria's problems seem to be spilling over a bit. I was told by locals that the atmosphere was tense, but I was oblivious/ignorant of it. The army is everywhere which may make you feel uneasy. That said, I didn't see so much as a fist-fight when I was there.

Girls/Nightlife

While I wasn't blown away by the quality, there is a healthy sprinkling of beautiful women in Beirut. When you get a top-quality Lebanese chick, they are hard to beat. Similar in appearance to other Arab women, their features are somewhat softer and pack a bit more junk. They do appear materialistic - smartphones/Louis Vitton bags etc - and a lot of local guys bitched to me about them. However, don't let that put you off, they like foreigners!

Day game: American University Beirut (AUB) campus near Hamra, also Corniche in that area. Downtown - quality chicks go here to shop/be seen/ drink in overpriced cafes. Always, always, always open in English. Beirut does not get many tourists and the locals are always intrigued by foreigners. Ask for directions and 9/10 times she'll ask you where you're from, what you're doing there etc. I found that they respond well to playful/cocky game. I was told that ONS are not that common, but they definitely happen. Most young people live with their parents so logistics are key. As a foreigner she knows that you have a hotel/apt which further increases your value.

Night game:
Gemmayzeh: This is where I stayed so predominantly went out here. More of the small/hipster bar scene with many of the bars sparsely populated. Nightlife gets going around 9/10ish when happy hours are prominent. Decent place to pre-game.

Hamra: Hamra street is a great place for a pub crawl, only walked down it so can't give bar names but it seemed a rowdier/younger/drunker crowd than Gemmayzeh. Bars are located close to each other so long taxi trips are not needed. Also some clubs in this area - Uberhousen was the only one I was in - $22 cover charge and $6 for local beer. Decent techno music and you can smoke inside. Difficult to game chicks as it was so loud.

Monot: Where most of the 'super' clubs are but I never visited it so can't comment. Goes on all night by all accounts.

Flag tip: Head to Gemmayzeh for happy hour then head for a street called 'Mar Makil' - it's a small strip of around 7 bars with a bottle shop in the middle. Everyone buys cheap bottles here and stands around chatting outside. Kind of artsy but the chicks here are more liberal. Open anyone and everyone. I found the local men were excellent wingmen. Chicks will be very interested if you're foreign. Bottle of local beer is around $2 and place is busy until around 3am thurs-sat.


Tourists: Thankfully few and far between, some study at arabic schools and you get some journalists covering Lebanon, Syria or the ME. Standard is poor.

Conclusion: Beirut is a great spot, with some stunning women and decent nightlife 7 days a week. I'd say it's even better in summer when the beach factor comes into play. Still pretty cheap and relatively untouched by tourist in recent years. Get there before Ryanair/Easyjet/ Civil War do/does!

Mar Makil below.

Post: #23

(06-25-2013 08:43 AM)3extra Wrote:  They do appear materialistic - smartphones/Louis Vitton bags etc - and a lot of local guys bitched to me about them.

Lebanese girls/women are the most bling and status-conscious girls on the planet. You won't have success in Beirut with a "high value target" if you don't have at least a platinum Grande Complication Patek Philippe at your wrist.

Post: #24

I've heard Bahrain is the party place for people from around that country!

Post: #25

@3xtra - Solid Beirut data sheet. Very accurate. Those cab drivers are something else. I remember getting into a serious shouting match with one and police being called but we resolved it before they showed up. Just one thing to note, Gemmayzeh to Hamra requires a short cab ride.