Post: #1

I understand that for most guys who get into game, the main objective is to increase the notch count. Also, everyone agrees that on average, women these days don't offer the same quality in terms of femininity and character compared to the women of the 1950's. As we all know, their femininity has been crushed by feminism, and their character weakened by western culture. This is much more visible in the western world but the poison has now penetrated even into 3rd world countries, so the following scenario is less likely these days but you never know ...

My question is :
Lets say you happen to land a solid 8-9 that is happy to stay home and take care of the kids, happy to cook you meals everyday, happy to fuck you and suck your cock on command, Clean the house, do the dishes, does not have a facebook account, is completely feminine and agreeable, and you are simply her God. Would you take it or pass and keep playing?

Post: #2

Having LTRs is fine imo as long as you stay the same person you were before. A lot of guys make the mistake of falling into one-itis and becoming too emotionally attached. Once you're emotionally attached to a girl, it becomes hard to pass her shit tests, it becomes harder to say no, it becomes easy to just let yourself go. Over the course of several years, this slow mutation of your personality turns you into (and her) into completely different people.

You have to realize that this can happen by no fault of the girl. It's just that the guy has allowed himself to get lazy and passive.

Paradoxically, the better the girl is, the harder it is for the guy to avoid this, and the probability of disaster increases. It might actually be better for an LTR to avoid 'perfect' girls and instead stick with someone with lower desirability. That way, you never get too attached and can leave if you want, and when she knows that, she will try harder to please you and make you stay.

Post: #3

(08-25-2013 01:55 AM)RexRenner Wrote:  I understand that for most guys who get into game, the main objective is to increase the notch count. Also, everyone agrees that on average, women these days don't offer the same quality in terms of femininity and character compared to the women of the 1950's. As we all know, their femininity has been crushed by feminism, and their character weakened by western culture. This is much more visible in the western world but the poison has now penetrated even into 3rd world countries, so the following scenario is less likely these days but you never know ...

My question is :
Lets say you happen to land a solid 8-9 that is happy to stay home and take care of the kids, happy to cook you meals everyday, happy to fuck you and suck your cock on command, Clean the house, do the dishes, does not have a facebook account, is completely feminine and agreeable, and you are simply her God. Would you take it or pass and keep playing?

Really?

Been there, done that.

You're really are asking how to proceed?

If you actually are, be the man. Not much more to say,

Post: #4

I prefer quality over quantity. For me, there's no honor or thrill in chasing 7's or lower only to be inevitably disappointed with their character (tarnished for x and y cultural/societal reasons). We're in the day and age where all women are pretty much the exact same and they all have the same flaws. Part of taking the red pill was accepting that.

Alpha (again, for me) isn't about taking anything home with a vagina and a pulse, but rather, having the intellectual capacity and complete mastery of self to pull that 1 in 500 girl that can pass a boner test months into a LTR.

Sniper vs. machine gunner. Set your standards incredibly high, don't accept bullshit, and if a girl is up to YOUR level - roll with it!

Post: #5

Take it and when things get a bit old, get something on the side. The reality is, everything eventually gets old. Take your favorite food, if you ate it every day for a week, you won't like it so much anymore would you? This is a fundamental flaw in our current relationship models: they ignore the fact that any kind of appreciation can only exist with contrast e.g. if she's all you've got then you either have to keep relying on your memory to have it exist for real - the contrast.

Post: #6

(08-25-2013 01:55 AM)RexRenner Wrote:  My question is :
Lets say you happen to land a solid 8-9 that is happy to stay home and take care of the kids, happy to cook you meals everyday, happy to fuck you and suck your cock on command, Clean the house, do the dishes, does not have a facebook account, is completely feminine and agreeable, and you are simply her God. Would you take it or pass and keep playing?

This scenario comes up every week, as cats start to bristle against the reality of the game.

Real talk, as perfect as she starts, she's not going to stay like that.

She can't.

Her perfection? That's how you get into the relationship.

A chick proves that she's down for you in all of those ways, but little by little, what she did to land you, she stops doing.

Little by little, what you did to get her to be compliant, you stop doing.

Eventually the beauty/pussy effect wears off, and you're left with a living breathing person, who you might not like being with, talking to, or most importantly- taking care of.

And this doesn't happen in 3 months, more like 2-3 years, when you're invested. When you stop really keeping your game sharp by actively trying to bed other women.

Now that she's comfortable and you're comfortable, things are different.

Now all the things you like about her, have changed.
And instead of letting you be you, she wants you to change.

The exercise is futile because of the fundamental mismatch in what men and women want from each other, and what they've come to expect.

WIA

Post: #7

I'd try it. To me, chasing tail is just a phase, not some kind of path of life. If you want to cold approach till you die more power to you.

Post: #8

It seems that the only realistic way for an alpha male to have a classic family even if the wife is near perfect, is to always keep his game sharp and have something on the side when desired. I see this as high risk, high reward, in that he sort of has it all, but the risk factor of it going down in exploding flames is very high. We see this with many high powered men and the mindset has to be considered alpha. The man is basically trying to take it all. No compromise. Some prosper, some burn, but it's no different from an alpha male lion or gorilla in the wild. They reap the benefits while at the top, but often a violent end awaits them.

Obviously the urge to pump a vagina full of semen is in all of us, but the desire to actually reproduce and ensure a strong next generation of your own genes is somewhere in there as well. Somewhere down the road, this is perhaps one of the bigger challenges most red pill aware men face today.

Post: #9

I'd do it for sure too. In fact there's a girl I have a long history with but can't be with right now due to the distance. She fits that description completely and I'd be thrilled to be with her.

However I also worry that things would fade and I don't know how long I could fight off that feeling of resentment I get when I see other hot girls that I'm not fucking... It's truly a dilemma

Post: #10

It's a curse and a blessing having a high level of game. I was in LTRs in the past with girls that today that don't impress me. On the other hand, I have lost girls like the one I mentioned in the post above because it's so hard to stick with one knowing that I'm one day game approach and one date away from new sex...

I don't know. All guys love variety in their sex lives and all guys love being loved and cared for by a really special girl.... I have a feeling I might add I don't know how many dozen more notches and then end up trying to recreate the experience I had with her and finding a good girl like her.

Hmm!!

Post: #11

(08-25-2013 09:51 AM)RexRenner Wrote:  It seems that the only realistic way for an alpha male to have a classic family even if the wife is near perfect, is to always keep his game sharp and have something on the side when desired. I see this as high risk, high reward, in that he sort of has it all, but the risk factor of it going down in exploding flames is very high. We see this with many high powered men and the mindset has to be considered alpha. The man is basically trying to take it all. No compromise. Some prosper, some burn, but it's no different from an alpha male lion or gorilla in the wild. They reap the benefits while at the top, but often a violent end awaits them.

Obviously the urge to pump a vagina full of semen is in all of us, but the desire to actually reproduce and ensure a strong next generation of your own genes is somewhere in there as well. Somewhere down the road, this is perhaps one of the bigger challenges most red pill aware men face today.

1. Most of those men don't have any or much Game.
2. The classic mistake most men make is that they start loving the other women more than their wife.

Women don't mind you having sex with other women, they DO mind you not loving them as much as the other women. I have personally, always had women on the side and I have never lost girlfriend because of them.

Post: #12

There is no right girl. There are only women that you're compatible with. Do you think out of the 50 bajillion women in this world that you just happened to stumble onto the one girl that "completes" you? Not likely. What you have is a handful of different personality types. And once you've lived life a little bit and experienced them all a few times you come to the realization that "the one" doesn't exist. It's more about being ready and finding a girl that is also ready to be in a serious relationship.

Post: #13

(08-25-2013 01:33 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  There is no right girl. There are only women that you're compatible with. Do you think out of the 50 bajillion women in this world that you just happened to stumble onto the one girl that "completes" you? Not likely. What you have is a handful of different personality types. And once you've lived life a little bit and experienced them all a few times you come to the realization that "the one" doesn't exist. It's more about being ready and finding a girl that is also ready to be in a serious relationship.

This right here is why I'm a fan of being involved with multiple girls at the same time long term.

No one girl is going to fulfill every need of yours or work with every part of your lifestyle/personality. Sure there are girls who almost have everything, but they are rare.

Its nice to have one girl who you can go drink and have fun with and the next day when you just want to hangout with someone low maintenance and watch movies you can have another girl for that.

Post: #14

(08-25-2013 10:44 AM)bacan Wrote:  It's a curse and a blessing having a high level of game. I was in LTRs in the past with girls that today that don't impress me. On the other hand, I have lost girls like the one I mentioned in the post above because it's so hard to stick with one knowing that I'm one day game approach and one date away from new sex...

I don't know. All guys love variety in their sex lives and all guys love being loved and cared for by a really special girl.... I have a feeling I might add I don't know how many dozen more notches and then end up trying to recreate the experience I had with her and finding a good girl like her.

Hmm!!

Very true and difficult for me to deal with.

Post: #15

I think if you want kids you have to have the traditional setup obviously you have to find a woman worthy enough because no matter what anyone says kids need a mother and father. Obviously if you have this and the inevitable happens and you get bored you can go back to chasing skirt on the sly just make sure you don't get caught.

However this is all just theory so I could be talking bullshit.

Post: #16

(08-25-2013 02:00 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(08-25-2013 01:33 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  There is no right girl. There are only women that you're compatible with. Do you think out of the 50 bajillion women in this world that you just happened to stumble onto the one girl that "completes" you? Not likely. What you have is a handful of different personality types. And once you've lived life a little bit and experienced them all a few times you come to the realization that "the one" doesn't exist. It's more about being ready and finding a girl that is also ready to be in a serious relationship.

This right here is why I'm a fan of being involved with multiple girls at the same time long term.

No one girl is going to fulfill every need of yours or work with every part of your lifestyle/personality. Sure there are girls who almost have everything, but they are rare.

Its nice to have one girl who you can go drink and have fun with and the next day when you just want to hangout with someone low maintenance and watch movies you can have another girl for that.

Part of the problem is the lack of brotherhood between men these days. Ironically most of men's needs are fulfilled by other men. But since we don't have that sense of brotherhood anymore we tend to get all whipped up on the first piece of ass that smiles at us. It's pathetic.

I try to think of man's true nature like that of the Vikings. Hunters, explorers, plunderers. Real manly men. Can you picture a big tough Viking getting all emotional over a woman?

Post: #17

(08-25-2013 10:44 AM)bacan Wrote:  All guys love variety in their sex lives and all guys love being loved and cared for by a really special girl....

100% right. So tough to be fully satisfied and have it both ways.

Post: #18

cheat when you need to