Post: #1

what is your go to move when you ejaculated after a few minutes or shorter? do you play it off? Do you pretend that it didn't happen? Usually I have the opposite problem (taking 20 minutes to cum), but I was put in that position recently because I did no fap and was 2 weeks in and was so horny that I could have cummed while kissing her. I held back as long I could which was about 2 minutes.

Post: #2

(09-14-2013 01:52 AM)Dex Wrote:  what is your go to move when you ejaculated after a few minutes or shorter? do you play it off? Do you pretend that it didn't happen? Usually I have the opposite problem (taking 20 minutes to cum), but I was put in that position recently because I did no fap and was 2 weeks in and was so horny that I could have cummed while kissing her. I held back as long I could which was about 2 minutes.

I usually have a few drinks or smoke weed which numbs me but if I haven't had the chance I say its been a while or compliment on how tight she is. Then I go for round 2 and sometimes 3, and that dissolves any negative feelings she may have had at first.

Post: #3

Yes, make sure to go for rounds 2 and 3.

Definitely wear a condom(put on a fresh one after each time you ejaculate), I have found that makes it harder to come quickly, (harder to come period). How exactly are you going to ignore it? You spew out a load of spunk and your dick goes flaccid, and you want to try to pretend like nothing happened?

Just tell her you will need a few minutes to get hard again for round 2, and that you will usually last a lot longer for rounds 2 and beyond

Post: #4

(09-14-2013 02:16 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  Yes, make sure to go for rounds 2 and 3.

Definitely wear a condom(put on a fresh one after each time you ejaculate), I have found that makes it harder to come quickly, (harder to come period). How exactly are you going to ignore it? You spew out a load of spunk and your dick goes flaccid, and you want to try to pretend like nothing happened?

Just tell her you will need a few minutes to get hard again for round 2, and that you will usually last a lot longer for rounds 2 and beyond

Exactly, if you don't make a big deal about it, then she won't unless she's a cunt. Sometimes I just laugh it off and let her know she can't leave yet because I "haven't even begun yet."

Post: #5

There's no such thing as "pre-mature ejaculation"

Your dick is god. If he wants to cum, let him cum.

Listen to your dick and not stupid feminist terminology.

Do you think Lions ejaculate "prematurely"?

I think every guy on RVF should get better at "premature ejaculation"

Fuck a girl how you want to. If you want to cum within five minutes, that's cool.

If you want to fuck her for three hours and not cum, that's cool.

Forget all the noise.

If a girl doesn't like it, she can bounce. You can always get another girl, and probably a more attractive one.

Maybe you are cumming sooner than what you think is normal because you don't really want to be with that particular girl. You are fighting with your dick, and he's saying "ok, let's just get this over with."

Your dick will always be more alpha.

He will always be right.

Post: #6

(09-14-2013 03:08 AM)soup Wrote:  There's no such thing as "pre-mature ejaculation"

Your dick is god. If he wants to cum, let him cum.

Listen to your dick and not stupid feminist terminology.

Do you think Lions ejaculate "prematurely"?

I think every guy on RVF should get better at "premature ejaculation"

Fuck a girl how you want to. If you want to cum within five minutes, that's cool.

If you want to fuck her for three hours and not cum, that's cool.

Forget all the noise.

If a girl doesn't like it, she can bounce. You can always get another girl, and probably a more attractive one.

Maybe you are cumming sooner than what you think is normal because you don't really want to be with that particular girl. You are fighting with your dick, and he's saying "ok, let's just get this over with."

Your dick will always be more alpha.

He will always be right.

Soup, I disagree. I LOVE and get very turned on hearing a woman call me an animal and a savage as I tear her apart all night. I feel like a G, and I'm guaranteed future lays.

Now if its a ONS, who cares what she thinks of you because you'll never see her again and you already succeeded in what you wanted to achieve...you're right. It's as 2PAC says, "I'll be a 10 minute brotha for a 2 dolla ho"

But, if she has fuck buddy potential or some other prospective worth, its never a good look to cum quickly and not make up for it during another round. Unless you're famous or rich, if you plan on banging her again you're seriously handicapping yourself. If she's an enjoyable fly bitch, put in a good first impression! Your game doesn't end right before you get the bang, it still continues during sex. That first bang needs to be handled properly if she isn't a ONS.

Post: #7

(09-14-2013 03:45 AM)liveandlearn7 Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 03:08 AM)soup Wrote:  There's no such thing as "pre-mature ejaculation"

Your dick is god. If he wants to cum, let him cum.

Listen to your dick and not stupid feminist terminology.

Do you think Lions ejaculate "prematurely"?

I think every guy on RVF should get better at "premature ejaculation"

Fuck a girl how you want to. If you want to cum within five minutes, that's cool.

If you want to fuck her for three hours and not cum, that's cool.

Forget all the noise.

If a girl doesn't like it, she can bounce. You can always get another girl, and probably a more attractive one.

Maybe you are cumming sooner than what you think is normal because you don't really want to be with that particular girl. You are fighting with your dick, and he's saying "ok, let's just get this over with."

Your dick will always be more alpha.

He will always be right.

Soup, I disagree. I LOVE and get very turned on hearing a woman call me an animal and a savage as I tear her apart all night. I feel like a G, and I'm guaranteed future lays.

Now if its a ONS, who cares what she thinks of you because you'll never see her again and you already succeeded in what you wanted to achieve...you're right. It's as 2PAC says, "I'll be a 10 minute brotha for a 2 dolla ho"

But, if she has fuck buddy potential or some other prospective worth, its never a good look to cum quickly and not make up for it during another round. Unless you're famous or rich, if you plan on banging her again you're seriously handicapping yourself. If she's an enjoyable fly bitch, put in a good first impression! Your game doesn't end right before you get the bang, it still continues during sex. That first bang needs to be handled properly if she isn't a ONS.

Why do you need a need a woman to validate you?

Yes, it's a nice scream that they make when they cum, but guess what..

you don't own that scream.

There are guys out there who are better than you who will make scream harder.

There are guys out there who are lesser than you that might provoke the same scream that you got.

I love validation as much as you, but don't base your game on getting validation from women.

Validation is great, but it's just one side of the game.

Post: #8

Soup I hear you and agree but I would assume that most guys are like me and dont do it for the ego boost, but do it to maintain the continued existence of the sexual relationship you've just worked all night to develop. It's simple...if the girl has zero value to you...then cuming quick is fine and maybe even preferred so she leaves you alone after that night. But women like to get fucked and fucked good...and they tell their friends about my performance and then they fuck me too eventually. There's too many benefits to doing a good job to ignore.

Post: #9

Soup, you are wrong.

You validate yourself by fucking a bunch of broads.

Guess what. That isn't that hard.

When those broads come back for more, then you are getting somewhere.

Been there done that with a pile of SNL's. It's not that big of a deal.

When they are looking for your ass, then you know you have arrived.

Edit-I've been to NYC before. That's game on easy.

Roll in the same town of 10K for 10 years and get back to me.

Not hating on you, just saying locale makes a difference.

And NYC is easy.

Post: #10

(09-14-2013 04:10 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Edit-I've been to NYC before. That's game on easy.

Roll in the same town of 10K for 10 years and get back to me.

Not hating on you, just saying locale makes a difference.

And NYC is easy.

Beautiful women come from all over the world to live here. It is easy, especially with a good style and a good knowledge of the city. Small town game can be easy too though, although yours is very small so I give you props. The thing about small town game is style and looks aren't as important. In small towns, people dress laid back and dressing up to date and stylish isn't important. you're not competing with much so you being a 6 can bring you up a few points depending on the quality of men there.

Being in NYC, having no style and other handicaps like not being good looking fuck you if you're trying to bang 8s. This is a really fashion and style conscious city. And the competition is fierce. There are other cons of big city gaming that Roosh talks about.

Post: #11

I've never had the premature ejaculation problem so maybe I can't relate, but I'm sick of hearing all this bullshit about 'performance in bed'. You're not there to 'please her'. She doesn't want you to 'please her'. She's having sex with you because she wants YOU to have a good time. Some minor amount of pleasure is of course important for her if you want her to have sex again, but the main focus is the Penis.

Think about this. Would you care about going out of your way to please a Hooker? No. Then why should you care about it with any other girl?

Post: #12

(09-14-2013 04:30 AM)pump_and_romance Wrote:  I've never had the premature ejaculation problem so maybe I can't relate, but I'm sick of hearing all this bullshit about 'performance in bed'. You're not there to 'please her'. She doesn't want you to 'please her'. She's having sex with you because she wants YOU to have a good time. Some minor amount of pleasure is of course important for her if you want her to have sex again, but the main focus is the Penis.

Think about this. Would you care about going out of your way to please a Hooker? No. Then why should you care about it with any other girl?

Because when I come home empty handed the following week, I want her to jump out of bed and come see me when I call her at 3am. Women suck at sex and I noticed that pleasing her makes her care more about pleasing you. There's nothing better then getting a girl who actually knows how to suck dick or ride a cock correctly and always feels like she owes you maximum pleasure for getting her off unlike the usual herbs who fuck her and get no play afterwards.

Post: #13

Here is a response that I wrote up for another forum member...

There are two methods of achieving your goal of lasting longer:

The Band-Aid Solution
The Long Haul


The Band-Aid Solution

This consists of the advice in aforementioned posts; beating off prior, viagra, drinking, thinking of disgusting thoughts, condoms, desensitizing gels, etc...

My post will not focus on that as that shit takes the pure natural fun out of sex and does not attack the root of the problem. How can you be as excited for sex when in the back of your mind you need to remember to beat it or pop a pill before you can actually enjoy a woman?

The Long Haul

There are indeed ways to achieve your goal of lasting longer more naturally. These types of solutions include; mental stillness, body relaxation, muscle control, physical fitness, proper technique, etc...

OP, allow me to guess what is going through your head when you have sex and do not last a long time. I would imagine that you are more concerned about "fuck I hope I don't last two seconds" than "I am going to make this woman cum over and over again by fucking her pussy good and hard". This brings me to my point of mental stillness.

I whole heartedly recommend anyone who struggles with being quick in bed to take up meditation. The times I am able to last longest is when no additional thoughts are going through my head.

To best describe what this means, you can achieve mental stillness if the only thing you have in your mind is "I wonder what my next thought is going to be?" This is from the book "the power of now".

Admittedly this is hard for even me to achieve but when I do, I find myself fucking like an absolute rockstar leaving the girl squirming. Being 100% sexually immersed in the girl > than any quick fix.

Another big part is not getting so mentally "worked up" before you are going to have sex. This also ties back to mental stillness.

Muscle control, Technique, etc... (PM if you want more info)

I am not going to go into details on all the exercises, routines, etc... But some things you can do include:

*Balancing your pelvic floor (kegels, reverse kegels, stretches)

*Specific deep penetrations and movements (I have an excellent video of this I can send you if you would like that goes through different sex motions that make you last longer and feel no different that other typical pounding motions to the girl)

Important

Allow yourself to be imperfect.

Everyone has to work at certain things. While some athletes are born 6'6 in height and can windmill a basketball through the hoop with insane force, others are born 5'5 and need to work harder to achieve the same amount of success.

SEX IS NO DIFFERENT

Don't listen to what your "friends" tell you about their sex life because most men are so trapped by their egos there is no possible way their ego will permit them to admit the truths about their mediocre sex life.

If you survey most men about their sex lives it is going to seem like you are surrounded by a bunch of porn stars.

If you really want to uncover the truth ask women about how lousy 95% of their lovers have been.

DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT! Seriously, go ask women and you will see that the MAJORITY of men are absolutely horrible in bed.

But do not use this as an excuse. Just recognize that this is something to be worked on, that you are not alone, and allow yourself to be imperfect.

Cheers and at gods speed...or not Wink

Post: #14

(09-14-2013 04:26 AM)liveandlearn7 Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 04:10 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Edit-I've been to NYC before. That's game on easy.

Roll in the same town of 10K for 10 years and get back to me.

Not hating on you, just saying locale makes a difference.

And NYC is easy.

Beautiful women come from all over the world to live here. It is easy, especially with a good style and a good knowledge of the city. Small town game can be easy too though, although yours is very small so I give you props. The thing about small town game is style and looks aren't as important. In small towns, people dress laid back and dressing up to date and stylish isn't important. you're not competing with much so you being a 6 can bring you up a few points depending on the quality of men there.

Being in NYC, having no style and other handicaps like not being good looking fuck you if you're trying to bang 8s. This is a really fashion and style conscious city. And the competition is fierce. There are other cons of big city gaming that Roosh talks about.

You're right to a point, but...

I'm in Chicago often enough to know it's a LOT easier than small town when you live there.

Small town means everyone knows you.

I'd rather they have no idea who I am. Much easier.

For me anyway. I deal with it but I would rather not.

Post: #15

(09-14-2013 05:13 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 04:26 AM)liveandlearn7 Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 04:10 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Edit-I've been to NYC before. That's game on easy.

Roll in the same town of 10K for 10 years and get back to me.

Not hating on you, just saying locale makes a difference.

And NYC is easy.

Beautiful women come from all over the world to live here. It is easy, especially with a good style and a good knowledge of the city. Small town game can be easy too though, although yours is very small so I give you props. The thing about small town game is style and looks aren't as important. In small towns, people dress laid back and dressing up to date and stylish isn't important. you're not competing with much so you being a 6 can bring you up a few points depending on the quality of men there.

Being in NYC, having no style and other handicaps like not being good looking fuck you if you're trying to bang 8s. This is a really fashion and style conscious city. And the competition is fierce. There are other cons of big city gaming that Roosh talks about.

You're right to a point, but...

I'm in Chicago often enough to know it's a LOT easier than small town when you live there.

Small town means everyone knows you.

I'd rather they have no idea who I am. Much easier.

For me anyway. I deal with it but I would rather not.

The way I feel is there are pros and cons.

NYC pros - endless supply of talent
Endless nightlife options
Logistics are great with subway, cabs etc.

Cons - Style is very important
Being part of a subculture is important
Being in the know on the newest spots, events, fashions, music is important
Competition is fierce

Pros of small town - relaxed style and being so far away from places where fashion is created means you don't need to worry about looking fly as much
-looks don't matter as much with the lower competition
-don't need to be in the know as there are only a few places to meet women

Cons - everyone knows you and your perogative
- may have lack of talent and only one racial group
-jealous locals cockblocking you or starting fights
-women may not dress that fly either since fashion isn't as important and they aren't impressing anyone new anyways

Post: #16

Liveandlearn has been in small towns a bit. I agree with most of what you say.

The biggest problem with small towns is seemingly everyone knows the last chick you nailed. Sometimes it works to your advantage, sometimes not. A lot depends on how you deal with it when it comes up.

I will say this though. The first time I rolled into NYC I was wearing a leather Arctic Cat snowmobile jacket. Rode into Grand Central on the train from West Point for my cousins bachelor party and if I remember correctly we ended up in Hell's Kitchen.

Yes, the next morning was interesting trying to get ahold of him and his woman to come get my ass.

"Where are you?"

"I have no idea."

Good times.

Post: #17

When I go to small towns my main game is "I'm from New York", "show me around, I don't know anyone here" and complimenting on the smallness and lack of a hectic lifestyle by comparing what i deal with every day in nyc. I also make sure to dress great, with a style and uniqueness that makes the visiting from new york gimmick shine, but without standing out TOO much that it looks obnoxious and makes you a target with local guys or policemen. I comment on their style and what they can do to improve themselves and look hipper.

Many of these girls wanna be able to brag to their friends that they fucked this cool kid from nyc who had awesome stories, was so interesting compared to the locals ,and totally liked them. Make them feel like they are missing out on life by being in the small town. Unfortunately men from small towns can't use this gimmick to game city girls...nobody cares and the girls assume you're lame.

Post: #18

You know small town game.

But yes, it can work inverse also.

Just don't be a hick about it.

+1 for you brother.

Post: #19

(09-14-2013 06:24 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  You know small town game.

But yes, it can work inverse also.

Just don't be a hick about it.

+1 for you brother.

Thanks man, feels good getting some respect here haha. You should make a thread about the pros and cons of small town game and comment on strategies to use depending if you live there or not, or whatever your predicament is.

Post: #20

I've made a few comments here and there about it in various threads. As far as I'm concerned it's really not a different game from anything else but that's probably because I really don't think about this shit much.

Don't think, just do.

The funny thing is you talk about telling them you are from NYC. (Not slagging you btw) I'll tell them I am from Portage, Wisconsin Dells, or Richland Center and it doesn't matter. All that matters is you are someone new and "unusual". Go into a small enough town and you expect the jukebox to stop when you roll through the door and everyone in the bar looks at you.

Yes, they really all do look at you just because they do not know you.

Me and a buddy used to hit a different small town every weekend years ago, before the DWI laws got prohibitive, and I was batting 75% for new and unusual lays. Not because I dressed better or looked better. It was because I was someone different and had a good "rap". That's all it took.

Hell, all it takes in any situation is being able to intrigue and talk to them. Being someone new was just a bonus and put the game on easy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every guy is born with this shit. It's societal norms and expectations that castrate guys ability to get in the pants of the broads that are out there every day.

All around them.

Just fucking do it.

Post: #21

(09-14-2013 07:34 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I've made a few comments here and there about it in various threads. As far as I'm concerned it's really not a different game from anything else but that's probably because I really don't think about this shit much.

Don't think, just do.

The funny thing is you talk about telling them you are from NYC. (Not slagging you btw) I'll tell them I am from Portage, Wisconsin Dells, or Richland Center and it doesn't matter. All that matters is you are someone new and "unusual". Go into a small enough town and you expect the jukebox to stop when you roll through the door and everyone in the bar looks at you.

Yes, they really all do look at you just because they do not know you.

Me and a buddy used to hit a different small town every weekend years ago, before the DWI laws got prohibitive, and I was batting 75% for new and unusual lays. Not because I dressed better or looked better. It was because I was someone different and had a good "rap". That's all it took.

Hell, all it takes in any situation is being able to intrigue and talk to them. Being someone new was just a bonus and put the game on easy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every guy is born with this shit. It's societal norms and expectations that castrate guys ability to get in the pants of the broads that are out there every day.

All around them.

Just fucking do it.

Great post, very true. I game in the burbs of nyc for this reason. Girls like guys who are new and refreshing...its exciting. It's also fun watching them compete for your attention..the closest you'll get to fame game without being famous.

Post: #22

Master edging.

Jerk off for thirty minutes to an hour a day without cumming for thirty days. It's muscle memory. After a month of that habit you will be trained to last 30 minutes to an hour everytime. Meditation and relaxation is key as well.

A lot of guys grow up hiding masterbation. They rush it and jerk off as quick as possible to get the nut off. Gotta take your time with and re train yourself. It's like anything else it can take practice.

Post: #23

(09-14-2013 08:06 AM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  Master edging.

Jerk off for thirty minutes to an hour a day without cumming for thirty days. It's muscle memory. After a month of that habit you will be trained to last 30 minutes to an hour everytime. Meditation and relaxation is key as well.

A lot of guys grow up hiding masterbation. They rush it and jerk off as quick as possible to get the nut off. Gotta take your time with and re train yourself. It's like anything else it can take practice.

Won't you get blue balls? And aren't there numbing cream out there or numbing condoms. this seems like too much work. after fucking every day for a 3-4 days my ability to last long during round 1 comes back. not being used to pussy after cold streaks would be the reason most guys cum quick

Post: #24

I used to have this problem until recently.

Once I started banging multiple women at least one time a day I could easily go 20 minutes plus easily without cumming except once I start lasting so long I run into a new problem. The girl couldn't stay wet for long enough so I had to start using lube more often in the later rounds.

Before I was banging multiple women I would masterbate every morning and by the time evening came around when I would fuck a girl having already masterbated that morning help me last much longer.

Post: #25

(09-14-2013 08:15 AM)murrb Wrote:  I used to have this problem until recently.

Once I started banging multiple women at least one time a day I could easily go 20 minutes plus easily without cumming except once I start lasting so long I run into a new problem. The girl couldn't stay wet for long enough so I had to start using lube more often in the later rounds.

Before I was banging multiple women I would masterbate every morning and by the time evening came around when I would fuck a girl having already masterbated that morning help me last much longer.

The thing with this is masturbation in the morning decreases my ability to go for multiple rounds, so if I fuck up the first round I may have to wait a long time for round 2. It also increases my chances of getting whiskey dick and lowers my drive to sarge.