Post: #51

Jay you and I probably agree more than it seems from those posts. I'm down with the natural fats, and even go out of my way to render my own lard.

I wasnt trying to say fat makes you fat, but rather that the combo of fat and carbs together is great for gaining weight.

If I needed to increase bodyfat for some reason (I don't) I would eat stuff like mac and cheese, spaghetti carbonara, and pizza.

Post: #52

(09-18-2013 08:42 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Jay you and I probably agree more than it seems from those posts. I'm down with the natural fats, and even go out of my way to render my own lard.

Before I read several of those books that i mentioned in my earlier posts by Taubes and Enig and a few others, I had been confused by a lot of by the mainstream portrayals of nutrition and fats and grains and even the slogan that we should eat everything in moderation. These days, there are NOT a lot of people who are rendering their own fats - even though we should all know better... and partake a little in that. I save the fat from bacon and pork to cook with other foods. Real "smart" people are buying canola oil or some of those other supposedly "heart" healthy oils.. which these supposedly "heart healthy" oils are really causing inflammation and the ingestion of way too many omega 6s.

(09-18-2013 08:42 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  I wasnt trying to say fat makes you fat, but rather that the combo of fat and carbs together is great for gaining weight.

If I needed to increase bodyfat for some reason (I don't) I would eat stuff like mac and cheese, spaghetti carbonara, and pizza.

Ok, Rex, sounds like we are kind of in the same ball park. You may have a good point that eating a lot of carbs with fat may make them go down better... but I would maintain that in the end all of those items that you listed would make you fat b/c of the carbs and not because of the fat... although depending upon where you get them, the fat may not be very good fat... which is all o.k. if your goal is just to put on a bunch of weight.

Nonetheless, I am still interested in seeing any scientific evidence to show whether eating fat causes people to get fat... and if so, by what mechanism.

Actually, that reminds me of a situation, and I cannot recall, exactly, where i saw the information, in which some farmers were thinking that they wanted to make their pigs fatter, and they began to feed them loads of coconut oil b/c coconut oil is almost totally saturated fat. Anyhow, all the pigs got skinny once the coconut oil was added to their food, and the farmers abandoned that plan and went back to feeding the pigs grains to make the pigs fat by more accepted methods.

Post: #53

They should run this on the air.