Post: #1201

^^ Where are you getting this? Young guys will play around, test each other, compete, say things to prop themselves up to older guys the same as they will among themselves. I used to get fights picked with me when I was younger, I never do now. If you lift and get some size, strong body language and composure, have your shit together young guys will be intimidated if anything. If its like this where you are from it sounds like a shitty place. In Australia for all we say about the women and all, there is a certain way among men, I really dont see anything of what you have described above.

Post: #1202

Take her wherever your take any other chick. I'm in my late 40's - granted I'm in top shape and a lady killer - but I have a close friend who is a black girl - she's absolutely lovely - she's 13 years my junior. I wear her on my arm in public like the fine jewel she is. She's smart, beautiful, amazing in the sack and no reason to hide at all. I'm blonde so we contrast like crazy - I love the attention we get because frankly we look great together.

If you like her take her everywhere.

Post: #1203

Quote:Colombia

as a 41 year old man

I know its much easier in Colombia.

But, don't give up on college girls here in the USA.

After thousands of approaches, hundreds of dates, countless texts/phone calls, and dozens of bangs -- I have noticed some patterns..

10-20% of college girls tell me that, at times, they prefer an older man. They want a break from dating teenage boys.

10-20% seem very curious, but, are hesitant due to social pressures.

5-10% or more have a fantasy/fetish for an older man.

--

They crave a strong but soothing masculine presence. They want to be led and guided but it must be playful and seemingly lighthearted. They are all vulnerable little girls. They all have a need for a man.

They can feel it in their pussy. Society may say its wrong but her hormones tell her its right.

Popular culture sometimes glamorizes it, makes it seem sexy, and at the same time, makes it taboo. It's a mystery, a forbidden pleasure, this can entice her even more.

I'm telling you, the more practice I get, the more I'm unlocking pathways and seeing the most simple, fundamental keys to college girl success.

--

I'm currently blending two sides of my personality -- #1) The stable, established, cultured gentleman -- #2) The sensual, iconoclastic, rebel.

It's a mix of "r-selected" and "k-selected".

Just enough beta mixed with just enough alpha.

Beta lowers her pyscho-sexual-emotional guard, alpha spreads her legs.

I show her that I can discuss any topic gracefully, then, I show her that I can treat her like the slut she wants to unleash.

*****

When I wrote this a few years ago, I didn't know how true it is:

(03-20-2013 02:05 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I started doing this when I started dating girls half my age.

After asking her about her dad and determining what kind of relationship they have, I will get a sense of her needs and wants from a man.

Based on her answers, I might into one of these two gaming styles.

"Father Figure Game" - Fill the empty spaces left by her father;

She will crave attention, guidance, direction, discipline, etc. She will crave a masculine presence in her life. I take a position superior to her. I speak to her form a place of authority, the same way a father would. I correct her when she needs correcting, I advise her when she needs advising. I help her focus her life and get on a path towards success. This is what she wants, this is what she needs, she was just lacking some strong, male, adult leadership

Addressing these things as they relate specifically to her life will cause her to get emotional and connect with you. They crave masculine leadership in their lives.

"Older Man Fantasy Game" - Satisfy her curiosity and need for new, exciting experiences;

She has a good relationship with her father. She is fresh out of high school. She is away at college in the big city. What does she want? She wants fun and excitement. Now is her chance to experiment with sex and drugs and try all the things she has been fantasizing about since she was 12 or 13. Fucking an older man is often one of these fantasies.

I take a different tone with these girls. I don't speak to them in a fatherly manner like I would with the other girls. I present myself as a fun, cool, established older guy that can introduce her to the new experiences that she is looking for. I take them to downtown San Francisco for lunch and shopping. I often provide drugs and alcohol. Many times I pick them up at their dorm room and no one knows but her and I. I make the fantasy a reality!

I often dress better when I'm with these girls because it's all about the "cool, older guy vibe".

Its all about identifying and FULFILLING her needs, wants, and desires.

Once you identify her needs, you can begin to address them in the best possible way.

Trust me, younger girls love older guys. It's taboo -- which makes them even more curious about it!!!

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I'm just saying, go after American college girls. They are easier then we are led to believe.

Post: #1204

Gio, a full dressed post like this from you is like a hurricane of fresh air.

Thank you again for staying what you are for all these years and never losing your taste for the great prize of luscious college pussy.

Post: #1205

Respect, Gio. Everyone else: listen to this man. I've been running 'Father Figure' game since my early 30's.

(01-22-2016 01:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  give less fucks

I turned 45 a few weeks back. I grew a beard in when I was in Canada about a year ago and was initially-taken about by the amount of grey in my beard under my chin.

I'm not a 'pretty boy'. I've got the face of a bulldog. Faced with the realisation that my beard was getting grey, I just shrugged. I can't pretend I'm 20 any more, but I know I gave off an intense masculine presence, so can work with that.

I don't give the slightest of fucks about my age, and I haven't seen any evidence girls do either. As Gio suggests, more and more I seem to think us middle-aged masculine guys have been given an incredible gift: the drastic increase in effeminate boy-men in the Millennial Generation means there's young women who are desperately-craving the experience of traditional masculinity, especially if their dads were feminised as well.

I was at a Liquor Store yesterday with the Producer of the project I'm currently-working, getting a couple of slabs of beer in for the musicians. There's a cute early 20-something behind the counter, looking bored as we came in. Asked her where the beers we needed were, she said she wasn't quite sure as she was just watching the shop for her brother while he was at the doctor. The Producer - who already deeply despises me out of envy - turned to ask her for a trolley. After he did, I simply threw a slab up on each shoulder. She laughed and said "That's one way to do it!"

We got a good conversational rhythm going at the counter - the Producer had ceased to exist in her eyes. As she rung us up, she complained about how 'forgetful' she was getting.

I winked. "Wait 'til you get to my age. You start wondering if it's early-onset Alzheimers."

That made her laugh, and she talked about he she was scatterbrained enough now so how bad would that be. She was trying to be funny, but that risked being depressing. I steered it around to how it could function as a good excuse for anything if you were feeling lazy:

Can't be bothered getting out of your pajamas but need to go to the supermarket? Alzheimers!

Don't want to babysit your grandkids? Say 'What children?' Alzheimers!

By the third time, she was chiming in with me I said it. I know - not top shelf material, but it did the job to get her relaxed and laughing.

I steered it to stronger flirting, got the shy eyes and giggles. Everything rung up, I turned to go, then turned back, and handed her my phone. "Can you help the Aged love, and pop in your number in case I can't remember my way back here?"

She put it in.

I guess this counts as some kind of preemptive 'agree and amplify' tactic. I'm cheekily-owning what most guys would see as a fatal handicap, and assuming that of course she'd give me her number, i'm that interesting. Admittedly, the Aussie Accent might help.

Man, did the Producer lose his shit when we got outside about the age difference. You can always tell those that rarely get sex, because their main concern is stopping other people from getting it.

Post: #1206

AnonymousBoosch, props to you for gaming the youngsters with the grays coming in. I'm in my early fifties and look younger than I am, but for the gray hairs coming in. Honestly, I pause on pursuing the younger girls given that. It's inspiring to hear Gio and you guys succeeding with the pretty young things.

Post: #1207

Five years ago, I would have never believed that older guys like us could get chicks in their 20s but as I come out of my divorce and start dipping my toe back in the water, I really see that this is true, younger women are really fascinated by older men who look good, take care of themselves and are fit. I get IOIs all the time from younger women and I flirt and engage with some of them. I'm still not quite at the stage of getting numbers and asking them out as I'm still processing the end of my marriage while engaging in a stressful, busy career but I'm getting there (although I did pick up a 25 yr old chick in Miami over xmas).

Just recently, I was with my 18 yr old son and 21 yr old daughter touring a college for my son in Montreal. We were done with the tour and I couldn't find the bathroom so I asked this cute young chick where it was, not even thinking about attracting her. She looked at me, told me she didn't know but then did a double take and then practically took my hand and led me to the bathroom. I noticed it but didn't think too much about it. Later that night, I was at dinner with my kids and my son brought it up. He noticed how this chick was all over me, trying to help me out in finding the bathroom. He couldn't believe how that chick responded and I couldn't believe he noticed it. My daughter chimed in and said she noticed too. My daughter's reaction was particularly funny as she shook her head and put her hand to her head in mock disgust. So then I joked with her that I'm going to ask her 20 yr old roommate out because she always flirts with me and finds me attractive which my daughter acknowledged is true but made her even more disgusted. I then assured her that I wouldn't do that to her.

So yeah, I think that as long as you look fit and can converse with younger chicks, these women are craving older, manlier dick. Not all but a good number. That's been my experience so far.

Post: #1208

I just turned 40 myself. I've found that its' really laborious to kick it with young chicks lacking basic interpersonal skills (which comes with time & experience). Of course I'm attracted to those tight ripe bodies, but that's where it ends. I've had plenty of pussy in my lifetime so I guess my need to entertain less than stellar personalities just for the pussy attached to it just isn't there.

My question for the guys slaying the young & the restless, are you guys screening for chicks with decent personalities as well? How are you guys overcoming the generation gap?

Post: #1209

The question is WHERE are the best spots to go or increase your odds

I think you guys are dead on, just trying to get volume or even approach chances in the right setting can be difficult

Post: #1210

I stopped trying to look young.

I stopped trying to act young.

I stopped dressing like a younger man.

I stopped wearing young shoes.

I don't have youthful mannerisms and youthful body language.

I don't talk like a young person.

--

These changes helped me a lot.

Why?

Because trying to be something that I'm not is incongruent.

I wasn't presenting the best version of myself.

It looks stupid when A 40 year old is trying to look like he is 29.

--

Other thoughts...

My greatest weapon is "the numbers game"...

If I talk to one 19 year old girl, I might get lucky..

If I talk to ten 19 year old girls, my chances of success increase 90%

If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one (maybe 2 or 3) of them is getting fucked!

That is just the law of averages and the power of high volume.

--

By talking to a high volume of young, pretty girls, I improve my game as I get real world practice socializing with the exact type of girl that I want -- AND -- I also exponentially increase my chances for success.

I try to make a point to talk to at least two or three 19 year old girls a day. If I'm out socializing and having fun, I might talk to 10 in a day. This is just part of my lifestyle.

I enjoy flirting with pretty 19 year olds, its fun to see their reaction and it's also fun fine tuning my methods.

--

Another interesting observation that I have made after gaming thousands of college girls:

Young girls, when they are horny, will instinctively display their ass and pussy to an attractive male.

They are literally an animal "in heat".

They will literally show me their ass. They will turn around, bend over, lean in and display themselves to me.

It's a mating ritual. It's often subconscious and instinctive. They are making themselves available to me. Of course, I still have to have enough game to fulfill my part of the "mating ritual.

We share 97% of our DNA with chimpanzees, I believe that this ass displaying instinct is a leftover habit from our days as lower primates.

Young girls are genetically predisposed to showing attracting older men their asses.

That is my belief and that is base on real data that I've been collecting for years.

The more attractive I have become, the more I have had tight, young, asses displayed to me.

Post: #1211

(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

The more you know!

You took my heart and mind all over again with this quote and even my signature which I try to keep dedicated to the power of volume approaching.

If you approach 3 a day that is over 1000 a year. You can probably bang 10-20 of those. 1 or 2 a month. Not bad for an older guy, the reality is still getting rejected constantly for a myriad of reasons. The biggest ones are often they will only bang guys in their direct college social circle or they have boyfriends, or they simply aren't attracted. This numbers game has to be embraced to the point any approach is seen as taking zero energy and is about sexuality and self amusement.

I have roughly 700 or so college girl day approaches logged. I feel like I have a large amount of experience compared to other guys I have known in life. The difference 100, 300, 500, 700 in my confidence and ease is staggering. I couldn't imagine what it would feel like at number 5,000. Probably like Yoda.

Post: #1212

(05-19-2016 11:06 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  My question for the guys slaying the young & the restless,

are you guys screening for chicks with decent personalities as well?

No.

I only screen for one thing..

Do I want to fuck her.

If I want to fuck her, then, I will try.

If I don't want to fuck her, then, I won't try.

Of course, her personality could make me want to fuck her or not want to fuck her, so, yes, of course, personality matters.

I appreciate a good personality.. But, I will still fuck a beautiful 19 year old with a poor personalty.

I mean, if she wants to fuck me, how bad can her personality really be?

(05-19-2016 11:06 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  How are you guys overcoming the generation gap?

With awareness, wit, social skill, humor, word play, vibe, personality, semantics, and hard work.

What else?

I am a 40 year old man, I have been studying human mating rituals for over 30 years.

I have worked hard to improve my looks, game, oratory skills, social skills, etc.

I should, and I do have the necessary skills to hold a lively conversation with a 19 year old girl.... 19 year old girls are not exactly winning the Nobel prizes is physics.

It just takes a bit social awareness, a bit of humor, a light-hearted but masculine vibe and a ton of confidence.

At 40, we should be able to lead the verbal dance with a 19 year old girl.

If we can't, then we must practice.

At 33, I was shitty with 19 year olds. Now, at 40 I am much more confident and competent.

If you are asking this question, I imagine that you need more practice, a lot more.

(05-19-2016 11:55 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  The question is WHERE are the best spots to go or increase your odds

The best spots are large universities.

They offer thousands of targets in a diverse setting.

I have written about this many, many times:

"Freshman Girls"

"Finals Week"

"College Game"

Post: #1213

(05-14-2016 11:24 AM)kazz Wrote:  ^^ Where are you getting this? Young guys will play around, test each other, compete, say things to prop themselves up to older guys the same as they will among themselves. I used to get fights picked with me when I was younger, I never do now. If you lift and get some size, strong body language and composure, have your shit together young guys will be intimidated if anything. If its like this where you are from it sounds like a shitty place. In Australia for all we say about the women and all, there is a certain way among men, I really dont see anything of what you have described above.

Have a bloody heart mate!

I'm 74 years old and only 4' 6".

I don't think I've done too bad so far.

But seriously, you might want to go back and read the bit about where I was dealing with at least 10 young fellas at the table. They were also extremely drunk. I wasn't, as I had 'work to do' later on, so to speak.

All our experiences are different. Don't forget I'm in the UK, and it is a very different dynamic here. My words weren't meant as a bible, just a little FYI of my very limited experience with the subject.

I don't think there is the outright obvious pecking order hierarchy that you have in Oz, and things can turn pretty nasty pretty quick here for no reason at all (sure that is the same there too, to an extent).

I gave that one example as a case in point, but could have given a few more. I was offering general advice really, with no claim to be a great mover and shaker.

At the end of the day, or night, I had a nice night out with a not too bad looking lady, a cracking group of young lads (I enjoyed their taunting of her as much as anything else), I didn't get beat up, and I had some pretty good sex at the end of the night.

Not bad for a bald old age pensioner midget such as myself.

But you were right about one thing, yes it was a shitty place. Such is life.

I hear you about being a powerful male that no one wants to fuck with. But the truth is, I don't have that power, so I roll with the punches, making sure not to fight above my weight, and like I said, picking my battles well.

But thanks for your honest reply. It's always good to get another perspective and know that things are different elsewhere.

Post: #1214

(05-17-2016 03:42 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ...Lots of interesting stuff...

Loved this little tale AB. As much for the producer losing his shit, as anything else. Ha ha.

I'm thinking you must do pretty well with the younger ladies, with that radiant attitude that you have. I know for a fact they will be lapping _you_ up, especially with that sense of humour, that they just weren't expecting while they were admiring your biceps! Double whammy - hit 'em where it hurts. Class.

It's true that younger ladies really do respect an older man, as long as he is not too old. I think you can easily run this game into your 50's if you look after yourself and have your health, and the means to play about. Like G was saying, essentially, to your own self be true. Which is what I said earlier as well. No one takes a faker seriously.

I have grey hair. Did since my mid twenties (a bit). In fact, I've actually started going black again, and am not complaining. Did I shave it off and pretend it wasn't happening? Fuck no, I grew a semi dreadlocked game of thrones/vikings look. There's no mistaking me when I walk in the room. I'm quiet and humble. Genuinely.

I meet the young ladies as I find them. In fact, I have been pleasantly surprised by a few who have just been very natural down to earth types. Restored my faith a bit.

Have a chat with them. Yes, use humour, of course. Be natural, as only an older man, safe in his skin, can. They pick up on it. It isn't even game at this point. It is a wonderful meeting of evolutionary trajectories, and they savour it.

In ages of old, this would have happened more, but as the young are more and more segregated from the old, and especially segregated from males, because you know, we are all disgusting paedos, I think they really appreciate it when they come across an interesting older male, perhaps alerting them to the possibilities of what a great man can be, be it their older brother or father or future husband.

They need to know that men have power and yet are still not beasts. That they can have control of a situation without being a needy bitch. That we are strong and fun and good company to be around. They will be safe with us. Plus, they get to learn some special secrets, don't they?

It may be that some have daddy issues. I think they are in the minority, and obviously best avoided. But I feel very strong attraction coming from younger women who have not been tainted by the bullshit yet. I feel it from the new mothers as well, having had their first baby, bored with hubby and their general situation.

And I feel it from the old girls as well. I'm happy to play with them too and hone my skills. Coz they have been around the block more than any of us. They are someone's mother, and come from a different generation. I really like the older ladies. They can be easy to charm because of their vulnerability, but they are harder to win over in other areas, coz they are more worldly wise than many.


I just feel it. My own power. I'm lucky. It's the one thing I have left even though I have been broken in many other aspects of my personality. Broken to heal and fight again. A modern day warrior. With a pleasant humorous personality, a decent enough body, a face that is truly my autobiography (scars and all), well dressed (but no silly skinny trousers tights like Robin Hood) and most importantly of all, a genuine interest in them as human beings. I fucking love women. From the deepest parts of my soul. If you have that love, and can give them that kind of attention, the world is your salty oyster.

I'm getting ready to hit my half century pretty soon. And I have absolutely no doubt at all, that if I was on top of my game, I could easily find a woman half my age (say mid twenties) to marry me and have my babies. And be grateful for the fact she met such an exceptional man. Men like me aren't born, we are made. Forged in the fire. Broken. Sunk back into the water to temper some more. Like the Samurai's sword. All the sharper, all the truer for it.

AB, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you are a hit with the young ladies. They like you. They feel safe with you. They find you interesting. You are not pushy, yet confident. You have all the right ingredients, in spades. It's that not giving a fuck attitude coupled with the stoic joie de vivre, that gets them every time.

You may not be able to fuck them all, but I bet even the ones you don't fuck would be happy to count you as a friend. Possibly venturing into father figure/big brother territory, I don't know, I'm no psychologist. But yes, they see you as a stable rock, not a hormone filled bag of will he/won't he superposition. In a world of doubt, they find some stability, and it isn't even boring...

It would be easy to take this line of attack and gain some unfair advantage, especially among the more vulnerable, but let us not get too carried away. Growing old is no fun. We are lucky to live in an age where we have access to great nutrition and medical 'secrets' so we can live longer and happier lives.

I would say mid 40's is definitely some kind of peak for the accomplished man. I'm not one of them and am on the back foot, but for the rest of you coming up, this should be your goal! In fact, I see no reason why this level of quality of life could not be carried on up until mid 60's or even 70's with the right circumstances.

It is certainly a lot easier being a man at this stage of life, than it is being a woman. Of that I have no doubt. I'm enjoying my karmic reward, I must say.

And AB, please, a few more tales about the 'producers losing their shit'. I find that stuff more entertaining than anything. But when put in context of a thread like this, it's pure gold. Education and entertainment in one fell swoop.

Post: #1215

(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one (maybe 2 or 3) of them is getting fucked!

That is just the law of averages and the power of high volume.

Post: #1216

(05-17-2016 11:26 AM)MMM Wrote:  AnonymousBoosch, props to you for gaming the youngsters with the grays coming in. I'm in my early fifties and look younger than I am, but for the gray hairs coming in. Honestly, I pause on pursuing the younger girls given that. It's inspiring to hear Gio and you guys succeeding with the pretty young things.

Honestly, now that Spring is here the 19-29 yr olds keep telling me how sexy the salt & pepper hair at my temples, and elsewhere is. I had 2 20- and a 22-yr old texting me today to go out with them. I'm more than 2x their age.

Listen to Gio, Bosch, and me -- they don't GIVE two shits.

Gio, here in the northeast, I'd say about 50% of girls want to date older guys, but 10-20% of those are hesitant due to social pressures. But there are more that want older, experienced guys or maybe just don't give a fuck. And 10-20% that have a fetish. I know girls that are dating guys 25 years older, and have no problem saying so.

Got a new bang with a 20-something last week. She loved my look and let me know from the jump. A couple venue bounces and back to her place. No drama, no 'will you call me,' no 'Take me out to dinner,' she just wanted a fun time with a new guy - said she hadn't been with a guy for a while!

Spring is far and away the best time to get college girls. They are either leaving town soon or here for summer classes with like no friends around, or just got back from school. Just think about being a 19-yr old with no job [or working retail] and home with boring mom, dad, and sis -- I'm surprised they don't kill themselves. No wonder they've become interested in older guys.

Post: #1217

Posted in the log, but just banged a girl 24 years younger. New record for me. I have a 23yr on tap for Tuesday nite, wish me luck.

Post: #1218

This thread needs a bump.

I was driving for Uber last week, doing my side hustle. Picked up a girl who was slow to come out of her house, but coincidentally her neighbor had just finished his Uber shift and we talked shop for a bit. He teased her a bit about making the driver (me) wait.

I was driving her downtown to a concert at a mid-size venue. She wanted to stop for a pack of cigs. No prob, lots of 7-11s between here and there. I ask what show she's going to as a way to start a convo, she tells me and then asks "do you think I look cute tonight?". I turn, give her a long once over and say, "yeah... your hair looks really cute". We get to talking. She's a masseuse. At one point she starts rubbing my arm, supposedly demonstrating something about touch. She says a couple times that "I'm only 25, but..." explaining something about her life. Like she highlighted her age to me. At one point she says "my parents are such fucking hippies".

In retrospect, I was getting gamed. And that last comment, thinking on it, is a sign of daddy issues. Her dad is her best friend, not her father.

We stopped at 7-11 and she asks if she can smoke a cig. I've got the meter running, no prob. I like talking to her. Again, she mentions something about being "only 25, but I'm getting my life together" in the course of the convo.

The thought crosses my mind "I should ask for her number" but I'm sitting here worried about my next ride, worried about making money, worried about what if something goes bad and I lose my Uber gig...

Fucking stupid. This girl dropped so many IOIs in a 20 minute period, she's qualifying herself like crazy... I can't remember the last time that happened even when on an actual date. And if I lose the Uber gig, so what? There's always Lyft. I've been super stressed about money, but what's the point in having money and not enjoying life?

Dumb mistake, but I'm not going to beat myself up though. It's a lesson learned. I saw what was happening as it happened, I think I did a decent job handling the convo and not fucking that up, I had the sense to think to close, but I didn't attempt for bullshit reasons. Next time, no bullshit reasons. At some point you have to trust your gut and believe in yourself just a little bit.

Also - semi-related, I've been reading the book "A Guide to Rational Living", mentioned in another thread on here. It's all about stopping the negative dialogue in your head. Highly recommend. Last night I was having trouble sleeping, getting stressed about bills, then going down this negative spiral about how life sucks... then I told myself to stop, right there. Just said out loud to myself "You are doing the best you can today. Tomorrow will be better. You will set aside some time tomorrow lunch to pay bills. Now get some sleep". Went back to bed and slept soundly until 6:45 this morning.

Post: #1219

You have not lost the chance with her. It's just on hold. You could always swing back over there and use looking for her neighbor as an excuse to get things rolling again.

Glad you bumped the thread. I think guys our age have it much easier to a degree with women. Our biggest opponent is what's going on inside our own head. Im in the same boat and have to be mindful of my own thoughts because they are the main influence of my actions.

Post: #1220

(07-16-2016 09:09 AM)Dino Wrote:  Glad you bumped the thread. I think guys our age have it much easier to a degree with women. Our biggest opponent is what's going on inside our own head. Im in the same boat and have to be mindful of my own thoughts because they are the main influence of my actions.

I've had a bunch of people tell me that it's way better to be a single man in your 40's & 50s than a single woman. I see their point, but I'm for the most part not interested in dating women in their 40s, but I'm letting myself be intimidated by the thought of 20-30 yo chicks. This girl reminded me that a lot of young women crave approval from older men.

Back when I was doing yoga the instructors would always say "be mindful of your thoughts, they lead to words, be mindful of your words, they lead to actions". Sounds like some new-agey bullshit that gets rattled off during yoga, but it's really true.

Which reminds me, I need to start hitting up yoga again...

Post: #1221

(07-16-2016 08:48 AM)RockHard Wrote:  Also - semi-related, I've been reading the book "A Guide to Rational Living", mentioned in another thread on here. It's all about stopping the negative dialogue in your head. Highly recommend. Last night I was having trouble sleeping, getting stressed about bills, then going down this negative spiral about how life sucks... then I told myself to stop, right there. Just said out loud to myself "You are doing the best you can today. Tomorrow will be better. You will set aside some time tomorrow lunch to pay bills. Now get some sleep". Went back to bed and slept soundly until 6:45 this morning.

Post: #1222

I say the same thing all the time. Our age gives us plausible deniability in every interaction. Women recognize the ability to create plausible deniability as a DHV. So no one over 40 should feel any intimidation talking to girls in their 20's as long as they aren't acting like a pervert.

Post: #1223

(07-17-2016 12:08 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  I say the same thing all the time. Our age gives us plausible deniability in every interaction. Women recognize the ability to create plausible deniability as a DHV. So no one over 40 should feel any intimidation talking to girls in their 20's as long as they aren't acting like a pervert.

How do we know if we crossed the pervert line?

Post: #1224

(07-17-2016 02:00 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 12:08 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  I say the same thing all the time. Our age gives us plausible deniability in every interaction. Women recognize the ability to create plausible deniability as a DHV. So no one over 40 should feel any intimidation talking to girls in their 20's as long as they aren't acting like a pervert.

How do we know if we crossed the pervert line?

Of course you have the basics of not staring at her tits, getting too touchy, or making crude comments. Rule of thumb, act the same way you would with a young niece.

Suppose she is wearing a low cut dress.
You: What would your parents think of that dress?
Her: Why?
You: It looks expensive. A young woman like you should be saving her money.

It is a vague comment. She doesn't know how to take it. Then you give her adult advice. She gets intrigued because you surprised her.

Girls will talk to you for hours as long as you tow this line. You both have plausible deniability because you are just an adult giving a young girl advice. All the while building attraction.

Post: #1225

(07-17-2016 04:36 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 02:00 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 12:08 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  I say the same thing all the time. Our age gives us plausible deniability in every interaction. Women recognize the ability to create plausible deniability as a DHV. So no one over 40 should feel any intimidation talking to girls in their 20's as long as they aren't acting like a pervert.

How do we know if we crossed the pervert line?

Of course you have the basics of not staring at her tits, getting too touchy, or making crude comments. Rule of thumb, act the same way you would with a young niece.

Suppose she is wearing a low cut dress.
You: What would your parents think of that dress?
Her: Why?
You: It looks expensive. A young woman like you should be saving her money.

It is a vague comment. She doesn't know how to take it. Then you give her adult advice. She gets intrigued because you surprised her.

Girls will talk to you for hours as long as you tow this line. You both have plausible deniability because you are just an adult giving a young girl advice. All the while building attraction.

Hahahahaha

I appreciate your explanation, even though I have some difficulties with the style of treating her like your young niece.. Personally, I think that you could get a way with something a bit more bold, and of course, building some sexual tension is by dropping some little hints, here and there, in order to give her the signal, so that in the end, you don't spend 2 months, or even 1 week without some kinds of clear progress..