Post: #1

Long time reader, first time post. I'm heading to Europe this Spring and besides Paris I have no idea where I am going (though probably at least Zagreb). I found This Chance Of Hooking Up Rating on Roosh's site but it looks old and only covers South America. Is there anything out there similar to this for Europe? I also saw the Nicholas Jack map but of course that lists countries, I'm looking more for specific cities.

As for me, I'm just a white midwestern guy, blond hair, blue eyes, early 30s. I like all types of women. Thanks in advance!

Post: #2

I'd say your best bet, if you can afford it, would be to spend as much time as possible in countries like France where the locals tend to be more sexually liberal than those in other highly touristy destinations like Spain and Italy. Germany and Austria are also good examples.

Regardless, if you're aggressive enough, the chance of hooking up should be very high regardless of where you go. If you're like some guys and complain after only meeting a few girls here and there, and being a timid and passive little bitch, don't expect to have the same quality of a trip.

Post: #3

haha nice username. Thanks for the advice, I really wanted to check out Italy (just to see, not because of the women) but I might skip it.

Post: #4

Welcome to the forum.

It depends a lot on what you want out of the trip. If it's simply to bang chicks, then you'll need to do a few key things. If you want a full on European experience then you'll have to shift yourself around a little bit.

Are you traveling alone, what's your budget like, where do you plan on staying? How long will you be in Europe and what's your experience like gaming your own area? I have to fully agree with Roosh, when he wrote something to the effect of, "if you can't get laid in your own country, it's not necessarily going to be easier in another one." Girls in Europe aren't just throwing themselves on you necessarily... not that it wouldn't happen, especially in say Iceland for example, but the point is that it's not the norm. You still need game.

Spain and Italy are great. Great for coastlines, history, and food. They do have some amazing women, but it's not an easy place to game and the language barrier will kill you. I didn't make it to France, but I've never heard of anyone describe it as a GREAT place to game. Many French people also don't speak English.

There's more than enough info on here about Europe for you to get a fairly detailed plan together, as far as which cities you'll visit, down to even which bars and clubs you want to hit up.

If you are traveling alone, then good on you. I did half of my travels over there solo. I like the freedom, and there's just something about it... you feel like the man.

As for a few tips:
Location, location, location.
If you want to get laid you need to be at MOST no more than 4 or 5 blocks from the nightlife. Where ever you go, find out where the nightlife is (usually around the city center) If you arrive in a city with no plans, just find something in the center.

If you're staying for 4 or 5 days, I'd recommend a rental apartment. Most rental apartments have a 2 or 3 days minimum.

Other than that, I'd say hotel room. I'm not big on hostels, although you might think differently. Usually very small rooms, perhaps communal showers, very strict sometimes about guest, etc. But then again, you can always try to pull from girls staying at the hostel, and you'll no doubt have some people to hang out with.

I'd always have a small bottle of vodka and mixers ready everywhere I traveled.

Get a good taxi number (you can get this from your hotel desk or at the airport) and have it saved and ready to use for extraction from a club. You don't want to waste time trying to wave a taxi down. p.s. Don't get in unmarked taxis. Also, tell them were you want to go and be prepared to negotiate a price. Hell, even in a marked taxi in Ukraine, I had to bust some driver down for trying to rip us off.

Use trains when possible and game on airplanes. Both have captive audiences, with trains having an advantage.

Be prepared for late nights...places just simply stay open late in Europe. Have a 5 hour energy ready.

Get a girls name and number in your phone RIGHT away. Even if you don't get the bang that night, don't write it off as a loss. I had a lot of success on second meetings, when I couldn't secure the ONS.

Get an international plan for your phone. And get the app whatsap.

Have some basic understanding of the exchange rates wherever you go. Pay in cash at bars/clubs.

Use common sense with your wallet and where you wonder around. I never had any trouble with fights, or any of that bullshit. And like I said, I was alone or with one other person traveling all over Europe for 3 years. Don't get super shit faced and use common sense. Religion or politics comes up... "na, don't care..I'm here to have fun."

Don't be scared of Eastern or Central Europe. That was by far my favorite place, and the place that (with some game) will afford you to have the best ratios and options for banging 8s and 9s.

Try some second tier cities. Brno, Czech Republic is at the top of my list. If you really want to bang an Italian, you can check out my datasheet on sicily.

And as always, have fun, flirt like a mother fucker, and be aggressive. Remember, if you're not fucking her, she'll find someone who will. Make it happen, and build the experience.

Post: #5

Spain in summer is great if you dont mind banging tourist girls. I dont understand the obsession some guys have with banging locals. So if you go to Barcelona, cant bang a single Catalan girl but can bang girls from Russia, France, Romania, etc, does it mean it sucks? Absolutely not, for me anyway.

Post: #6

Thanks mbare, well written. I went to Europe (by myself) last March and made a bunch of mistakes. First time visiting overseas so while I wanted to get laid it wasn't the focal point, needless to say, didn't get laid haha. I was actually too afraid about the language barrier but I won't let that deter me this time. I also wasn't used to the late night mentality there. I planned my nights around a 2 am bar close that was non-existent. I didn't spend enough time in each city and wasted too much time going to and from airports, only planned on using the train once which didn't happen when a blizzard grounded me in Zagreb. Didn't dress as nice as I should have. Bottom line was Europe was a bit of a culture shock in small ways and I made a lot of small mistakes that compounded into an almost wasted trip. Met a lot of cool guys though, which I guess is better than nothing. I went to Rio in November and made a lot of progress on the things I did wrong and ended up getting a flag.

Going again alone this time. Budget for this trip won't be a giant issue because I have a lot of SPG and Club Carlson points to defer the lodging costs. I have 2 free Hyatt nights that I'm burning at the Park Hyatt Paris-Vendome ($1800 value). Basically my only expenses will be booze, food, and travel within Europe. I know that can all add up but I don't plan on doing anything ultra unreasonable.

I read your datasheet on Siciliy (along with a hilarious one about some guy being stranded in the rural part). So basically if I went there it would just be for fun and not for the women? (no ONS right?). I will definitely look more in CR.

One other question, that might sound completely stupid but kind of stumped me while I was in the UK. Since there is no 21 laws the door guys aren't checking ID's. What do you say to them? Do you just walk in or talk or what? I was kind of at a loss as to what to do when I encountered that situation.

Post: #7

(01-15-2014 04:58 PM)shotgun Wrote:  Spain in summer is great if you dont mind banging tourist girls. I dont understand the obsession some guys have with banging locals. So if you go to Barcelona, cant bang a single Catalan girl but can bang girls from Russia, France, Romania, etc, does it mean it sucks? Absolutely not, for me anyway.

How about the spring when I am there? I honestly just want to meet foreign people, I don't really care if I meet them in their own country. I've been hanging out with this French girl in that states and it doesn't bother me the slightest bit that we are here and not in France.

Post: #8

Op what's the draw with Zagreb?, supposed to be the most boring capital city in Europe, Belgrade is the place to be in that area.

Quote: Girls in Europe aren't just throwing themselves on you necessarily

This is true in Eastern Europe, only the fatties will throw themselves at you

Post: #9

(01-15-2014 04:58 PM)shotgun Wrote:  Spain in summer is great if you dont mind banging tourist girls. I dont understand the obsession some guys have with banging locals. So if you go to Barcelona, cant bang a single Catalan girl but can bang girls from Russia, France, Romania, etc, does it mean it sucks? Absolutely not, for me anyway.

I mentioned locals because French girls by pretty much all accounts are far easier than Spanish and Italian girls as far as getting quick sex. You'll have so many more options. Many guys here have had very positive things to say about Paris and French girls. Roosh also mentioned that Spanish and Italian girls were particularly harder to pull.

ridiculous_nicholas, definitely go to Italy if you want to check it out. I like Italian girls, but if I were in Italy trying to get quick sex, I'd focus mostly on tourists. Depending on how important getting laid is to you, maybe you can plan the trip spending a bit more time in the more sexually open cities. It's even possible that the vibe of the city will make tourist girls more promiscuous. To give an extreme example, Paris has more of a sexual Vegas-like feel to it than say, Cairo.

Here is a world map giving an opinion on ease of bang by nation.
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=19491

Post: #10

(01-15-2014 05:25 PM)Clunge Wrote:  Op what's the draw with Zagreb?, supposed to be the most boring capital city in Europe, Belgrade is the place to be in that area.

Quote: Girls in Europe aren't just throwing themselves on you necessarily

This is true in Eastern Europe, only the fatties will throw themselves at you

My great grandparents immigrated over from Croatia so i wanted to check it out. When I was there though it was only on a Saturday and Sunday night. Saturday i was too strung out and hungover from London to do much of anything and Sunday the whole damn city shuts down. I wanted to give it another try maybe I won't if its considered boring.

Post: #11

(01-15-2014 05:36 PM)ridiculous_nicholas Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 05:25 PM)Clunge Wrote:  Op what's the draw with Zagreb?, supposed to be the most boring capital city in Europe, Belgrade is the place to be in that area.

Quote: Girls in Europe aren't just throwing themselves on you necessarily

This is true in Eastern Europe, only the fatties will throw themselves at you

My great grandparents immigrated over from Croatia so i wanted to check it out. When I was there though it was only on a Saturday and Sunday night. Saturday i was too strung out and hungover from London to do much of anything and Sunday the whole damn city shuts down. I wanted to give it another try maybe I won't if its considered boring.

Ah ok, that makes sense. Well you should check it out then, make sure you go to Belgrade though, it's pretty awesome.

Post: #12

(01-15-2014 05:31 PM)rimjobs4life Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 04:58 PM)shotgun Wrote:  Spain in summer is great if you dont mind banging tourist girls. I dont understand the obsession some guys have with banging locals. So if you go to Barcelona, cant bang a single Catalan girl but can bang girls from Russia, France, Romania, etc, does it mean it sucks? Absolutely not, for me anyway.

I mentioned locals because French girls by pretty much all accounts are far easier than Spanish and Italian girls as far as getting quick sex. You'll have so many more options. Many guys here have had very positive things to say about Paris and French girls. Roosh also mentioned that Spanish and Italian girls were particularly harder to pull.

ridiculous_nicholas, definitely go to Italy if you want to check it out. I like Italian girls, but if I were in Italy trying to get quick sex, I'd focus mostly on tourists. Depending on how important getting laid is to you, maybe you can plan the trip spending a bit more time in the more sexually open cities. It's even possible that the vibe of the city will make tourist girls more promiscuous. To give an extreme example, Paris has more of a sexual Vegas-like feel to it than say, Cairo.

Here is a world map giving an opinion on ease of bang by nation.
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=19491

This, Many nationalities are easier to score when they are in holidays abroad. That holds true even more in the case of conservative and family oriented countries such as italy, greece or even spain. The family guilt seems to be quite easily forgotten when not at home!

Post: #13

Rimjobs4life, agreed that Spanish and Italian girls are harder to pull. For Spanish girls I think a good bet would be Ibiza. The ones I met when I was there seemed more open than in mainland Spain.

Ridiculous_Nicholas, spring should be alright in BCN too. The only time of the year the city should be avoided is winter. Nightlife dies down there during the cold months.

Post: #14

Here's a link to help you train around. http://www.seat61.com

If or when you decided to fly, use skyscanner. Cheapest companies are Ryan Air, Air Baltic, and Wizz Air. (Note: It'll cost extra for a checked bag. Remember to check-in online and print your boarding pass before, otherwise they will screw you with fees.)

Yeah I wouldn't worry too much about language barriers. As stated, places like Italy and Spain (and from what I've been told, France) were really the only places that it was an issue. If you're getting strong vibes from a girl who doesn't speak English, you can still make it happen.

Roosh wrote something about how to bang in 5 days, so you should search and read that. I think 4 or 5 nights in any city is a must for a local bang, and that'll still be a challenge, but not impossible. But I carry the same sentiment as a few others have pointed out... so what if it's a local? So I'd plan for at least 3 nights, but not more than 5. Try to plan your trip so that larger (capital cities) are hit up during the week. Large cities, Kiev for example, will always have something going on during the week. Small cities like Brno, Czech Republic will be kind of dead unless you're there on the weekend. But as with just about anything, that's a gamble that you'll have to weigh, since nightlife is best everywhere on Fri/Sat. Just something to keep in mind with smaller vs larger cities.

Finally, if you're into beer... Czech Republic and Belgium are a must.

How long are you staying in Europe?

Post: #15

One last thing... Not sure how long you're staying, but I'd highly recommend either Estonia or Lithuania. Because they're small countries, I think they get overlooked a lot.

And if you're up for a really interesting island off the beaten path, see if you can make a stop in Icleland on the way to Europe, or on your way back. Just make sure you're there on a weekend. The other days are dead.

If you go to Belgrade, Serbia let me know with a PM. I know a girl out there who likes to party...she's not very attractive but she has friends who are.