Post: #26

To make it clear...I am a government contractor. Actual government workers make less money but have better benefits including a small pension. Us contractors need to put away money into 401K and other things to save.

Post: #27

Don't join a branch of service unless you are going to go "all in" as Danger & Play puts it.

That means going for an elite unit. Seals, SF, Rangers, Recon.

Those guys receive the best training, best equipment, relaxed grooming standards, civilian dress, and don't have to deal with much of the bullshit and menial labor that's heaped on regular servicemembers.

Post: #28

(04-19-2014 07:29 PM)cool Wrote:  Don't join a branch of service unless you are going to go "all in" as Danger & Play puts it.

That means going for an elite unit. Seals, SF, Rangers, Recon.

Those guys receive the best training, best equipment, relaxed grooming standards, civilian dress, and don't have to deal with much of the bullshit and menial labor that's heaped on regular servicemembers.

Thats good advice but the OP is talking about going in as a pogue. We need info on equivalent pogue career paths / direct entry options.

Post: #29

(04-20-2014 05:34 PM)PoosyWrecker Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 07:29 PM)cool Wrote:  Don't join a branch of service unless you are going to go "all in" as Danger & Play puts it.

That means going for an elite unit. Seals, SF, Rangers, Recon.

Those guys receive the best training, best equipment, relaxed grooming standards, civilian dress, and don't have to deal with much of the bullshit and menial labor that's heaped on regular servicemembers.

Thats good advice but the OP is talking about going in as a pogue. We need info on equivalent pogue career paths / direct entry options.

Don't enlist for a pogue (support) job.

Waste of time.

Especially now as the military returns to garrison life.

Unless you are buried under student loan debt, just don't. No guarantee of doing your job. Although you are guaranteed to clean and do menial labor.

Post: #30

(04-21-2014 01:28 AM)cool Wrote:  Don't enlist for a pogue (support) job.

Waste of time.

Especially now as the military returns to garrison life.

Unless you are buried under student loan debt, just don't. No guarantee of doing your job. Although you are guaranteed to clean and do menial labor.

Huh? Were you a pogue? Most of the pogues I know got out of the mil and easily found decent jobs.

Post: #31

To me, it's simple. This may be a reiteration on what I wrote before but to emphasize:

1. What background do you have and will the military help you just a bit or A LOT.
2. What the heck will you do with that military skill AFTER you get out.

This post of mine seems still relevant in that sense even though just a bit restricted to my enlisted experience: /thread-29908-...#pid707498

People think that they can do 4 - 8 years, get out and they will have the skills to take over the world.

While the military can give you some very top notch skills, this is NOT always true as the civilian world categorizes and sees skills in a significantly different light than the military.

Post: #32

You know who make more than officers when they get out. Electronics Technicians from the military. Those guys are so hard to come by in the oil field they make bank. AND DONT DO SHIT!! atleast in my field. Highly recommend this MOS.

Post: #33

THe MOS in the army is 94M.

Post: #34

Education from the military is rarely up to the standards of employers.
Unless it is a trade.

That's my experience from Australia.