Post: #1

Talked to this Polish girl on Skype for over 3-4 months. Met her 2 weeks ago, as I travel and work.

Hung out with her last 7 of 10 days. Things to note: kiss at meeting and ending of date and usually make out a few times during date. Can't fuck her, as I'm staying with a friend in a hotel and she has a roommate/bunk bed. Always holding hands and close to each other.

Issues: I think I may be being lead on? I pay for everything, nothing super expensive, but still. I see her texting other guys sometimes (I don't ask) and some guy is frequently calling her when I'm with her (she likes all his pics on fb). When I text her, which is rare, she takes hours sometimes half a day to respond. Have yet to meet her friends, so I feel like I'm being kept a secret.

Polish girls are new to me and I don't know where to go from here. One thing I do know is they are shy and I have to intiate everything. If I want to go exclusive with her, how do I do it? Do I have to bring it up?

Thanks

Post: #2

(04-19-2014 03:56 AM)Burner Wrote:  Talked to this Polish girl on Skype for over 3-4 months. Met her 2 weeks ago, as I travel and work.

Hung out with her last 7 of 10 days. Things to note: kiss at meeting and ending of date and usually make out a few times during date. Can't fuck her, as I'm staying with a friend in a hotel and she has a roommate/bunk bed. Always holding hands and close to each other.

Issues: I think I may be being lead on? I pay for everything, nothing super expensive, but still. I see her texting other guys sometimes (I don't ask) and some guy is frequently calling her when I'm with her (she likes all his pics on fb). When I text her, which is rare, she takes hours sometimes half a day to respond. Have yet to meet her friends, so I feel like I'm being kept a secret.

Polish girls are new to me and I don't know where to go from here. One thing I do know is they are shy and I have to intiate everything. If I want to go exclusive with her, how do I do it? Do I have to bring it up?

Thanks

Have you tried fucking her in a bathroom/etc.?

Or getting a hotel room together?

Post: #3

(04-19-2014 03:56 AM)Burner Wrote:  Talked to this Polish girl on Skype for over 3-4 months. Met her 2 weeks ago, as I travel and work.

Hung out with her last 7 of 10 days. Things to note: kiss at meeting and ending of date and usually make out a few times during date. Can't fuck her, as I'm staying with a friend in a hotel and she has a roommate/bunk bed. Always holding hands and close to each other.

Issues: I think I may be being lead on? I pay for everything, nothing super expensive, but still. I see her texting other guys sometimes (I don't ask) and some guy is frequently calling her when I'm with her (she likes all his pics on fb). When I text her, which is rare, she takes hours sometimes half a day to respond. Have yet to meet her friends, so I feel like I'm being kept a secret.

Polish girls are new to me and I don't know where to go from here. One thing I do know is they are shy and I have to intiate everything. If I want to go exclusive with her, how do I do it? Do I have to bring it up?

Thanks

First you need to fuck her - rent another room or kick out your room-mate for a few hours/ the night. I stay in Poland quite often and can tell you that they want to fuck just like every other girl around the world.

Sometimes you meet a more religious/reserved one and may need tighter game or more time - but from the signs of it, it should have taken 2 days spent with her.

Isolate her at your place, escalate via Roosh/Krauser-methods, be firm and aggressive and go for the fuck. If she does not leave, then she wants to be fucked (no rape though . Before that you are just one of the prospects she has.

The main reason why it has not happened is because you did not isolate her - even trying to fuck her in some toilet would have been better.

Post: #4

I agree guys that I need to fuck her, but how do I bring it up? Back home I'd just invite a girl back to watch a movie, but here I can't do that. "Hey, want to come back to my hotel and see my suitcase?" I just can't come up with a line or way to bring her back to the hotel without being super direct about it .

She is pretty religious, which could be another barrier. Church every Sunday and is very serious about the whole Easter traditions and stuff...

Post: #5

Easter is now, so she will get a double dose of family etc.

Besides - any pretext to come to your room is fine.

Meet her, then say you forgot your wallet, you want to show her something on the notebook (if you've got it with you) - pictures from home, pics from your last travel, a funny video (actually a known PUA routine), have a good wine - would she like to share it with you? And say, that she can't stay long, because you need to do shit - that is another PUA routine.
Say - we can't stay long for whatever reason. Hungry? Let's go to my hotel and order room service. Then escalate.
At clubs I used the line - would she like to come to my hotel, because it is too loud to talk here? Or: I am staying at this great hotel here, nearby, we can talk in quiet back there.

Of course it is possible that it won't work - sometimes girls get reserved when they find out you leave soon - tell her your company might move you there, you might become an expat there etc.

What is obvious to you is not necesserily obvious to her. The hamster needs some kind of bogus reason in order to justify going to your place. Go for it - even if she rejects you she will respect you more for having tried.

Post: #6

Don't ask just do.
Kiss her passionately and then let your fingers do the walking, you already lost time. Rent a room or hotel, just get her alone. But be ready and prepared, Polish gals like a good ride.
Gals and their phones can be annoying, but look on the bright side she is with you.

Post: #7

I agree. Renting a room is good and all, but I don't want to be paying for a 2nd room and she refuses to go back to the room.

Post: #8

She's leading you on like crazy.

She's the worst version of yellow light there is. You have to step up to her and polarize it. Stop hanging out with her that much. Figure out which afternoon/night she's free and organize a proper date. No "let's hang out" and shit like that. Let her know it's a date. Tell her when and where you're kidnapping her and what you want her to wear etc. Be fully shameless and serious about it. If she doesn't go for that you will know what's up.

I'm not kidding. She will either start taking you seriously and bang you or she will excuse herself. Right now she's just playing you dude.

Post: #9

She definitely could be, but she's always spending time with me and has never rejected one of my moves. The only thing left to do at this point, like you and others suggested, is go for the fuck.

Roosh wrote in Bang Poland that these girls don't know how to play games or lead you on. We will see. I'm not wasting anymore time or money on this girl until I fuck her, so that's what the aim of the next date will be.

Post: #10

Spending time just hanging out with no real intimacy is exactly what leading on is all about.

They definitely now how men are but their game doesn't look like calculated button pushing tricks in a cold hearted manner. They're either naturally insecure/shy/coy or they play their dramatic role of being hard to get like their mum taught them or they simply adapt to guy's weak frame. I met bunch of stone cold bitches with real game so I don't buy into that "nice PL girl" myth. IMO it's all about lifestyle, shy girl from a village is likely to be nice and submissive but fashion photographer/blogger girl [even amateur] from big city is likely to be more untamed and spoiled brat type of a girl with attitude.

With all yellow lights you just have to escalate/polarize to throw them off the fence if you want to clear things up. When girls like that lead me on I did something to let them know I'm not the guy to fool around with. The sooner the better. Laying down the law and showing willingness to walk away is powerful and underrated move IMO.

In general, be more bossy towards PL girls. Not dickhead/asshole bossy, just decisive and to the point yet gentleman at the same time. For example, if you want to date a girl tell her that straight up and game a bit and when she wants it too tell her what kind of clothes you'd like her to see her in. Just don't demand things or give orders like she's a dog. See the balance? You do whatever the fuck you want with her yet be respectful. When she "rejects" your legit attempt tell her you understand and that it's ok you don't want to waste her/your time but the door to you are open at all times. Stuff like that.

Post: #11

Got what you're saying and will implement next time I see her.

She's the country girl you've described. Very shy and submissive. Every move I've done she's complied and never rejected. The true test will be going for the fuck. Only reason I never tried sooner was due to logistics, but I've got something planned. Will get an apartment for a weekend or something.

Post: #12

Don't overthink it, be natural and normal. I don't think she is playing you but you have to set the rules, tell her to put the cellphone away when she is with you.
If she is fuckable other guys will be trying to get with her, the shy thing is an act to see what your about.
Sounds like an opportunity to go caveman and breathe heavily in her ear and tell her how much you want her. That should turn on her switch.

Post: #13

Guys that have had Polish girls before...

Is it normal that you have to intiate everything? It seems like I always have to text first to set shit up. She only texts me first if I specifically say text me when you wake up, get off work, later, etc. Normal?

Post: #14

(04-22-2014 01:29 AM)Burner Wrote:  Guys that have had Polish girls before...

Is it normal that you have to intiate everything? It seems like I always have to text first to set shit up. She only texts me first if I specifically say text me when you wake up, get off work, later, etc. Normal?

The girls are not into texting as much as the Western girl.

For your case - since you already met it is not of much use except for keeping the plate warm. Besides - warming a girl up via text game and then sexting if she is not a wild girl is advanced level PUA.

Text, meet up and escalate ASAP.

Post: #15

(04-22-2014 01:29 AM)Burner Wrote:  Guys that have had Polish girls before...

Is it normal that you have to initiate everything? It seems like I always have to text first to set shit up. She only texts me first if I specifically say text me when you wake up, get off work, later, etc. Normal?

Perfectly normal as Jim's dad would say. They didn't read 'the rules'. They just have certain expectations in their heads and don't want to look like they care too much cause it goes against their little conservative rules. Don't take it personal it has nothing to do with you or your 'game'. Of course, if you dig deeper you will find those who have no problem with calling/texting you first just like you will find total bitchy ones too in the sea of nice ones.

Overall I don't recommend to depend on or read into indications of interest too much. Basically, when they talk back to you or follow your lead a bit and look like they more or less enjoy it then that's all you need to escalate or set up day2.

However for a specific game advice for foreigners read Kamaki and others cause girls treat/view you guys differently than local guys.

Post: #16

Well, I went cold for the weekend and she caved and texted me first on Tuesday. Called her and she said she's busy Friday but we should probably be able to meet Saturday or Sunday. Didn't give me a definite response, which is worrying, or she's just playing.

I got an apartment for the weekend, so if it's going to happen it's going to be this weekend. If not, I'm dropping her.

Do you guys recommend bringing her back to my place ASAP or wait until the end of the date? We haven't seen each other in 10 days due to Easter and work.

Post: #17

(04-24-2014 01:26 AM)Burner Wrote:  Well, I went cold for the weekend and she caved and texted me first on Tuesday. Called her and she said she's busy Friday but we should probably be able to meet Saturday or Sunday. Didn't give me a definite response, which is worrying, or she's just playing.

I got an apartment for the weekend, so if it's going to happen it's going to be this weekend. If not, I'm dropping her.

Do you guys recommend bringing her back to my place ASAP or wait until the end of the date? We haven't seen each other in 10 days due to Easter and work.

I would rather try to invite her for drinks with some chick-beer (wine) or strong but sweet drinks like Long Island Ice Tea. One venue should be enough for comfort building. Then get her to the appartment for some pretext or some invitation to drink a bottle of wine you got.

On the other hand you have already met her often enough, so minimal comfort building should be enough. BTW - it does not sound good if she gives you probable date options - Saturday or Sunday. She likely goes out on Friday. She might not be as innocent as she lets you believe.

Either way - become outcome independent by doing Daygame & Nightgame on Friday and even on Saturday during the day (even if she wants to meet you on Saturday). Read up on some Daygame on the forum and hit the streets - even if you are a Newbie it is better to put yourself into that kind of frame. Who knows - you might be able to pull another girl and put the appartment to good use.

Post: #18

Thanks man.

Well, the way I look at it is she had her own life in Poland before I came in. To expect her to drop her social life/friends for me is unreasonable and is needy. Maybe she's just meeting friends on Friday or sucking some guy off. It's hard to say and I'd rather not think about it, as it does no good and brings you
Into a dark place.

I asked if she wanted to meet up on Saturday or Sunday and she said "yeah, I think so". Obviously gonna need to send a text later today to confirm.

In other news, I managed to hit up another polish girl I had on the back burner and she wants to meet up. More options=better obviously.

Post: #19

(04-24-2014 01:26 AM)Burner Wrote:  Do you guys recommend bringing her back to my place ASAP or wait until the end of the date? We haven't seen each other in 10 days due to Easter and work.

With little shy village prude from nowhere I'd take it slow and go hard at the end.