Post: #51

Really great post, camaraderie, working in a masculine profession, have a brotherhood of friends, you can't beat these things. Its bitter sweet but when you neglect the notion that women are there to give you comfort or unconditional companionship; it gives you a sense of freedom and purpose to do your own thing.

Whenever my girlfriend goes mental for no apparent reason or say in the past I had a harsh rejection. It just serves as nature's reminder that you can't invest yourself too greatly into something that is just transitory. I genuinely feel sorry for these hipster guys who are denied understanding the basic principles of masculinity or just male & female relationships.

Post: #52

(06-13-2015 08:40 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(07-07-2014 12:03 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 11:16 PM)AfgScarface Wrote:  

(07-06-2014 07:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  They just don't want to hear it, and somehow interpret talking about "feelings" as weakness. I know, I know: they say just the opposite. They say they want us to "share" all these emotional intimacies, but once you do that, you're screwed. In reality they don't like to hear men reveal too much of themselves.

You can try, and under some circumstances, you can succeed. But my experience is that, for the vast majority, they will end up somehow using that against you at some future date. Any hint, any suggestion of non-masculine behavior will work against you.

Lets say you let things like this slip to a LTR during an earlier blue pill era. What should you do differently in order to counteract or offset revealing so much of yourself during a past time? Is there even a way to counter act such utterings in the first place? A way to run "damage control" so to speak?

The best answer I can come up with is to do a version of what Anonymous Bosch said above. You just have to operate under the assumption that revealing your private inner thoughts will somehow be used against you, or thrown in your face, at some future date. Even when I've just casually mentioned the good and bad points of old GFs to some girls, it has gotten me in trouble.

You want to spill your guts? Do it here, or with your dog, or with one of your male buddies.

Chicks just love to read shit into every little thing. (As I would say in Portugues to one garota: the complicacoes and implicacoes of every bloody thing. They always read more into what is said than should be there. And they forgive and forget nothing. Remember that.

Women just can't help it. I wish I had a better answer for you, and you'd think that after all these years of short and long-term relationships, that I'd have a better answer. But the only thing that works is just to remind yourself constantly of these points:

1. Let them spill their guts to you, not the other way around. They love to whine and vent, and you can just nod. Being a good listener has gotten me laid far more often anything I've ever actually said.

2. No kiss and tell about old GFs.

3. Master the art of pretending to reveal deep things by telling stories and anecdotes about people other than yourself. Better yet, just grunting and nodding may be better.

4. As Bosch said above, frustration equals attraction. It is a proven fact that women are more attracted to men whose feelings are UNCLEAR. Remember that.

But in the end, this is a real tough area of game, because it comes down to relationship game. And it's a natural feeling to want to talk and share, at some point anyway. But you've got to be careful.

Don't these facts about women^ basically prove evolution and disprove creation?

If God had wanted woman to be man's partner as written in Genesis, would not a woman's inclination be to listen to the man's problems and comfort him in some way. The same way a man will do to a woman he cares for? If God wanted a woman to be a companion, a true companion, then He would have created her with no or restrained hypergamy. She wouldn't want to go bang the Motley Crue cover band and abandon her husband and kids 7 years in a marriage.

But no. Hypergamy exists. As stated by QC and Anonymous, you, as a man in a relationship, can't reveal what's troubling you to your woman without her inwardly feeling contempt or losing respect for you. Women do not want calm, but drama. They thrive on it. They only remain attracted when you grunt at them in response to their questions about "feelings" A man has to learn all of these things that are completely non intuitive unless you're the "silverback alpha" who just gets it. A very small majority unless you've studied game.

A woman's nature, therefore, prompts her to be with one man for a bit of time, perhaps a short time and have sex with him if he's at least good enough to procure that. Then, her nature seeks any 'weakness' in the main whatsoever. Any chink, however so slight, in his armor that her mind and psychology can start to analyze and exploit to ultimately realize that she needs to seek other alphas.

Then, the next alpha to give her the tingles, she moves on or at least clandestinely cheats on the man she perceived weakness in because he dared to confide in her about his daily trials and tribulations.

To me, this smacks of the brutal and stark truth of propagation of the species at all costs. This smacks of hypergamy and nature doing its best to get a woman to bang as many alphas as possible and not "be a companion" as the Bible says, to one man for his comfort. These realities heavily support the "Theory" of Evolution and go against the original premises, written in Genesis, that a woman is to be a man's companion.

We can say, and say accurately, that the current culture and technological age we find ourselves in leverages a woman's nature more now than any other time in history and "this is why things are so bad now." This is true. However, women have always possessed these characteristics and you can see this evidenced in the writings and laws dating back to antiquity. Wise men knew laws and society had to be implemented in such a way to keep these hypergamous tendencies in check. Now of course, it is all but unrestrained as we approach the apogee of the age of modern radical feminism.

In a way, we as men can take comfort in these truths. We aren't upset knowing the fact that if we walk unarmed through the dense jungles of East Asia, we may eventually get eaten by a tiger. A tiger's a tiger. A woman's a woman and their nature is what it is. Therefore, we study the woman as a biologist studies a tiger. We understand (its) her ways. We understand why her psychology is the way it is and why evolution has made it so. There's nothing we can do about it but learn game and apply it and not be surprised when the tiger returns to the wild as Richard Parker did in the Life of Pi:





To be fair, the Bible, I do believe, makes some leeway for a woman's hypergamous ways. Adultery happens in the old and new testaments. From what I can remember, there is some verse in Genesis or the early part of the OT that speaks to the general theme of a woman giving a man a hard time because of what happened in Eden when Eve accepted the Serpent's apple.

But if you think of the nature of women from a pure evolutionary model, it makes sense the way they are an act; to always be probing for any weakness and always be gravitating toward the "strongest" alpha they can ultimately find. Broken hearts, broken marriages and broken families of former lovers be damned. Nature will have its way.

To be fair, Roberke, the Bible also says to marry virgins. A virgin woman needs way less relationship game to keep under control than a damaged slut. After the first guy a woman's chances of staying steady with the next guy go down dramatically. So I don't think the Bible gives bad advice here. The reason for all the divorce rapes today is that men marry sluts and whores and expect things to go Biblical when in fact the Bible says to pretty much only marry virgins.

Just like a new car losing huge value the second you drive it off the lot, the same goes for a woman once her cherry is popped.

Post: #53

(07-04-2014 04:26 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  The Dude, I just read your post.

Good post..Your'e a guy I relate to and appreciate your insight.


I think a big part of it is where you live in the US though.

I'm back in my hometown for a few months in the midwest and although it isn't the same as Eastern Europe it's not too bad.

The girl who cut my hair recently is in her early 20's, bubbly, good looking and engaged.

There are a lot of my high school peers getting married right now. Girls who are 22-25. ....

...Having said all that, I empathize with other men struggling, not necessarily because of women, but because of the damn economy.

Being from the midwest the dichotomy is more clear here to me. Girls are either sluts eventually headed for marriage scamming or a weak ass attempt at a LTR, then a divorce in their future, and back on the slut wagon well into their 30s, even 40s. - OR - pretty down to Earth, somewhat wholesome, who have a moderate or low notch count, but would make OK girlfriends potentially.

I'm meeting very little in between. You can pretty much tell when a girl is fucked for life in the midwest after about 20-30 minutes of comfort building to hear her story.

Post: #54

Quote: Genesis 3:16: "To the woman he said: “I will greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy; in pain you will give birth to children, and your longing will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.”

I believe that is one of the many red pill truisms. Women love to be dominated, even if they won't openly admit it. And they are happiest when in a committed relationship with a dominant, masculine man. Today's society however, doesn't churn out men like that at a very high clip. Combine the freedom feminism has given women, with the loss of any moral code or ethics in society, and it is now a sexual free for all. That is what sparks women's hypergamy to kick into high gear. They have no checks or balances in today's world. I don't think hypergamy proves evolution. I think evolutionary doctrine has stripped away a large part of humanity's spiritual and ethical code, thereby enabling hypergamy to exist in its fullest form. In a world where we are all simply animals trying to be the fittest, who cares if you leave your spouse and kids to level up to a better man that makes more money and gives you the tingles? It's in her genes, right? Why fight it? There is no God, no one cares. Live for yourself. Nothing matters. Society will just tell that woman, "you go girl". Consequences be damned.

Post: #55

A Happy Fourth of July to my American Brothers on the Forum.

But to all the Yanks and non-Yanks alike:

One year ago today one of the finest single posts in the history of the Forum appeared as the original post in this thread. It is every bit as true today as it was then. Since many new members have joined in the intervening year, and many long-standing members may want to revisit this gem, I am giving it a bump. The OP follows below. Enjoy.

The Lizard of Oz Wrote:Something that I've been feeling a lot on the forum recently (and not only here) is that a lot of men seem very unhappy and negative about life, the way things are, and the future. Not everyone and at all times, of course -- there are also guys who are happy, energetic, confident in the present and optimistic about the future. But there is a surprising amount of near-desperation that shows itself in all sorts of ways and in different places.

I think that a lot of this frustration, unhappiness, and near-desperation comes from a single source: men are very unhappy and despondent about the whole part of life that consists of their relations with women. And because that is such an important part of a man's life -- often the most important one -- this unhappiness and frustration stains the way guys feel about life in general and about the world, even where it comes to things that are completely unrelated to women.

The frustration that I'm talking about is very broadly that men are unhappy with the way women are. I don't mean just guys that have trouble getting laid -- of course these men are generally unhappy and frustrated about that. But even men who have some degree of sexual success are frustrated by how unsatisfying their interactions with women often are, how hard they have to work in return for relatively little. And even ultimate players and super-alphas are often unhappy and disappointed with the way women are -- yes, they get sex and worship from them with ease, but that very ease and the idiocy of that worship is something that can cause consternation in a thoughtful and decent man.

To put it simply, men just want women to be nice, sweet and feminine, and not smartphone-besotted psychos. It seems like not too much to ask, right? But apparently, it is too much. And the ever-present (and growing) gap between that simple wish, and the very different reality, causes an untold amount of misery and frustration.

Why is the gap so acute now? I believe that the basic nature of women has always been the same, and has not fundamentally changed. However, social conditions are such that they bring out the worst qualities in women. One can speculate about the reasons for this and how things are likely to go in the future, and this has been discussed endlessly and ad nauseam here and elsewhere. But in some sense the reasons don't really matter. Things are what they are right now; no one knows the future, but everyone has to deal with the present.

In response to this reality men have developed various strategies, have improved their game and lifestyle, and some have traveled abroad in search of a better situation with women. That's a lot of what this forum is about, and I'm all for that. Many of these strategies are useful and effective and should be pursued with vigor. However, when it comes to the world of eros, the truth is that for many if not most men this world remains a difficult and frustrating one. Game, lifestyle and travel can and do improve the situation, but for most men it still remains a source of unhappiness and disappointment.

Now, what is my point in saying all this?

It is simply this: while doing what they can to improve their odds and position in the sexual market, men should recognize that the situation is a difficult one and accept this. At the same time, men should understand that the entirety of life is not limited to the world of eros and relations with women. Don't let the fact that the world of women is so tough stain the way you feel about life in general. There are vast other parts of life that can be enjoyed and that are endless sources of interest and pleasure. Don't miss out on life as a whole just because a part of life -- even a major part -- is fraught with problems and difficulties.

When I look around me, I see a world that has never been more interesting and more amazing. The Internet is the most wondrous invention in the history of mankind; it allows us to access a million libraries of Alexandria in the palm of our hand. Life has never been more safer or more physically comfortable; there have never been greater opportunities for men to live a healthy lifestyle, to keep their bodies fit and their minds sharp. There are so many things to be interested in, to develop knowledge or even expertise about, to simply enjoy and be entertained by, that it's an embarrassment of riches at every moment. How terrible, even tragic, it would be to miss out on all this just because a part of life -- even a major and important part -- is relatively difficult, frustrating and often unrewarding.

I posted this video by Jack LaLanne in the 4th of July thread and I want to repost it here again, because he says something there that is so profound. He talks about a friend and student of his who had a financial problem, and because of this problem, he abandoned all of his hard-won good habits and let his body and mind go to seed. Then he realized how foolish that was and reacquired his good habits. In the end, he still had the problem -- but he didn't let the problem stain his entire life. As Jack says, if you have a problem that cannot be completely solved, accept that and be happy with the problem -- rather than have the problem and compound it by being miserable in every other way.





Again. Accepting the fact that there is a real problem with women does not mean that you do nothing about it: you always do the best you can in terms of game, lifestyle, travel etc. However, for many men the problem can be reduced but not completely solved. That should be accepted -- and men should not let the presence of this problem prevent them from enjoying this various, amazing, and ever-changing world in every other way, or distort their confidence in their lives and their sense of future and of possibility. Nor should they let this frustration lead them to be seduced by simplistic and reductive ideologies that offer them momentary relief and the promise of "meaning" but at the terrible price of closing off their minds to the true complexity, variety, and subtlety of life as it is. We have but one life to live and not everything in it will always go well -- but that is no reason not to live it to the fullest in every sense of the word.

Post: #56

Thanks for this. I found myself pissed off and very pessimistic after going 0/3 my entire month in china. It's frustrating and makes me angry, but I did have to remind myself that I've been having a lot of fun beyond women recently. I just fucking moved to a new continent for a year. Whoa.

Post: #57

This is one of the best threads on the forum. So many nuggets in these posts it's criminal.

Getting it back on the front page.

Post: #58

When I read in the Poland thread that it is now "=West", I returned to this thread, which is the only one from this site other than the home page that I have bookmarked. Since PL was among the candidates for the infamous "paradise" just 5 years ago, I started to think the negativity is perhaps going a bit too far. This thread should be a sticky.

It does seem the more time goes by, the more we get weighed down by pessimism, and even if partially true, too much pessimism can lead to inaction, depression, suicide. If we all believe Poland and other countries are now shit too, then where do we go? What do we do? If everything is shit, what's the point? We may as well kill ourselves. That's the kind of sentiment I'm getting from a lot of posts lately, it's just damn depressing. I come here to read things conducive to improvement, and some home truths are necessary, but a lot of it is just the same shit that won't lead to anything productive, more likely the opposite.

Post: #59

Great post and probably more valuable today than just a year ago.

These external difficulties for men everywhere aren't getting any better. Quite the opposite.

Thanks so much for this Lizard of Oz. I must have missed this post even though I was a lurker during that time. So glad I got to read it now.

Post: #60

If there's one thing I think every man should understand is that pussy is a fungible commodity, more so than perhaps any other commodity. The chick who seems oh so special today, will before long become more trouble than she's worth. A man's happiness should not in any way be dependent upon these females who for the most part are mediocre with not much to offer beyond their surface appearances (and even that, most chicks have trouble taking care of these days). This is a lesson that I think only gets learned with time and experience with these women.

It cannot be said enough that a man must work on himself, must consider himself the prize and must derive his happiness from within himself regardless of the circumstances surrounding him. When things suck, don't get too low because the suck will pass. When you're rolling, don't get too high because this too will pass. Women can be a lot of fun but also incredibly frustrating so the key is to understand that and make them an accessory to your life, not a life's mission. I tell this to my 18yr old son all the time.

Post: #61

(11-23-2015 08:49 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  If there's one thing I think every man should understand is that pussy is a fungible commodity, more so than perhaps any other commodity. The chick who seems oh so special today, will before long become more trouble than she's worth. A man's happiness should not in any way be dependent upon these females who for the most part are mediocre with not much to offer beyond their surface appearances (and even that, most chicks have trouble taking care of these days). This is a lesson that I think only gets learned with time and experience with these women.

It cannot be said enough that a man must work on himself, must consider himself the prize and must derive his happiness from within himself regardless of the circumstances surrounding him. When things suck, don't get too low because the suck will pass. When you're rolling, don't get too high because this too will pass. Women can be a lot of fun but also incredibly frustrating so the key is to understand that and make them an accessory to your life, not a life's mission. I tell this to my 18yr old son all the time.

Good statement. And to add to that the women who read in a man that he depends on her for happiness will ultimately make that man miserable.

Post: #62

I had seen this thread bumped multiple times and bookmarked a few weeks ago for later reading.

Today I closed a deal on a house. I take possession in two weeks. Normally I think I should feel what other people feel when they purchase a property; elation, happiness, triumph.

Instead I felt somewhat angry and frustrated. I looked at my friends; one announced they were expecting their first child. Another one of my friends is getting married next month. Another spent the weekend picking out the best projector and lounge furniture to go into his recently purchased house with his fiance.

I couldn't help but feel I wish I had a stable LTR to celebrate something like this with. Instead I haven't told anyone except my brother and my parents and this post. I was frustrated at work so much that I couldn't concentrate and was looking for music to fix my mind. I couldn't wait till tomorrow when I could go to my sparring training and just punch the shit out of a focus mitt.

Breaking bad spoiler below (meh not really a spoiler, but just in case)
It reminded me of that Breaking Bad episode where after Jesse has made it big, he asks Walter if he wants to go go karting later. Walter says he has to go home to his family. The episode ends with Jesse driving around the track alone while yelling out because in spite of his success and was surrounded by people at his party earlier, he still felt alone.

I was in Italy a few weeks ago by myself; my friends were going to arrive the next day. That evening, I approached a young woman who looked like a tourist and talked to her for about an hour. Neither of us had dinner, so we went to a place and grabbed dinner, nothing happened after.
When my friends arrived the next day they asked what I did the day before. I said walked around, saw some stuff, had dinner with a random girl. They thought it was incredible (they are quite blue pill betas) that I could just go up to a random girl, talk to her and not have to have dinner by myself sitting alone at a restaurant in some foreign city. But I knew that the forum members here would have been able to convert that into a bang, so I still felt it was a failure and actually left a bit of a mark on my first day there.

I look back and see how far I have come. But I look forward and it is somewhat dispiriting how much further I have to go. When I was at the one of the meetups, Roosh said specifically to me "You have to put in the hard work". I look at my friends who I mentioned before, they would find the views in this forum 'abhorrent' and 'mysogynistic', so it makes me think: I only have 48 hours per weekend, how best to spend those hours? Gaming for paltry results, or doing something I genuinely enjoy?

I've been told that it is bad to be comparing yourself to others. But when every man can run and I can still only crawl, its is a form of bitching out to tell yourself feel good bullshit like "don't compare yourself to others".

I guess I just wanted to say thanks for this thread, it resonated with me. Earlier today I knew when I came home, I had to finally read it. Rep given.

This thread reminded me of the Stockdale Paradox, an idea by the highest ranking officer POW in the Vietnam war:

Quote:When Collins asked who didn't make it out of Vietnam, Stockdale replied:

Oh, that's easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We're going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.

Stockdale then added:

This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

Post: #63

I have never gotten frustrated with women unless I made mistakes in game while learning game many years ago such as not pulling the trigger fast enough or not calibrating or if the women were bad disrespectful women who try to extort things from you.

However one thing that absolutely makes me frustrated are what liars women can be, they really do tell the biggest lies, some lies you cannot come back from.

For 7 weeks I have just avoided women and done non-stop Brazilian jujitsu and gym and work and studies at university because the girl I was dating a while back told me she was HIV positive a week after I went raw in her and she told me she was on the pill.

I have collapsed into a shell trying to escape my anxiety and frustration towards how I got deceived.

It has been very hard to actually trust women or even want to date them, cause not only can this make dating and banging very difficult...it can potentially prevent me from working in certain fields of the nursing profession.

Seriously have no idea to come back from this mindset regardless if this test comeback positive/negative.

Post: #64

(09-27-2016 05:34 AM)Lucario Wrote:  I have never gotten frustrated with women unless I made mistakes in game while learning game many years ago such as not pulling the trigger fast enough or not calibrating or if the women were bad disrespectful women who try to extort things from you.

However one thing that absolutely makes me frustrated are what liars women can be, they really do tell the biggest lies, some lies you cannot come back from.

For 7 weeks I have just avoided women and done non-stop Brazilian jujitsu and gym and work and studies at university because the girl I was dating a while back told me she was HIV positive a week after I went raw in her and she told me she was on the pill.

I have collapsed into a shell trying to escape my anxiety and frustration towards how I got deceived.

It has been very hard to actually trust women or even want to date them, cause not only can this make dating and banging very difficult...it can potentially prevent me from working in certain fields of the nursing profession.

Seriously have no idea to come back from this mindset regardless if this test comeback positive/negative.

Sorry to hear this, but take comfort that as long as you didn't engage in anal sex your chance of contracting HIV was pretty small.
Good luck.

Post: #65

Lucario, in some places (like in Canada), men get charged for not disclosing their HIV status to their partners. I read about some African man in Toronto being charged for a crime related to attempted murder because some empowered Canadian woman went to seek sex with him, and the man claimed in court how he had a language barrier because his deep African dialect was misunderstood by the woman, and it was she who was seeking sex rather than him.

It was an interesting point because some Canadian women do tend to either deliberately or mistakenly misinterpret things coming from a man with an accent or ESL.

That woman who didn't disclose her HIV status should theoretically be held liable, whether civilly or criminally for purposely spreading the risks of HIV.

Not even p4p industry would deceive their Johns like that by spreading the risks of HIV/AIDS. Even in erotic massage parlors, many of the MPAs are required to undergo STD testing because they know that if they are spreading AIDS to clients who have $$$$ and criminal connections, it doesn't end well for anyone.

I'm no doctor, but get an HIV test to clear your worries. It might be no worries since HIV is very very hard to spread when penetrating vaginal sex, but other STDs like HPV can still be spread from unprotected vaginal intercourse.

Post: #66

Relating to the post,

I'm not really "frustrated with women" but witnessing what happened to Roosh last year in Canada by those screeching Toronto harpies & Anglo-Montreal snobs at Concordia and Mc Gill universities, I do have an ounce of resentment against Toronto women because they are mainly SJW.

However, I do keep my mind off from that negative vibes by interacting with Eastern European chicks away from Toronto, who do like it when I compliment them in a very sexual way (when in Toronto just telling a chick "Hi" on campus results in Security lecturing about "unwanted conversations" and "harassment").

To be honest, the entire group of SJWs, militant and closet, serve no good for society. Whenever I see a Toronto/Canadian woman cut her hair short and end up becoming a SJW, in my eyes, I see an enemy more than a woman.

Reason why many American people would prefer that the city of Toronto become a separate State quarantined from the rest of the world.

I still resent the Canadian SJWs because they created a hysteria against Roosh using defamation and false accusations.

Sometimes when you see me on threads warning about Toronto/Canadian women going to other cities and countries to spread SJW, take that as advice, because if your country becomes infected with Canadian SJW, there is most likely a Toronto woman or feminist behind the scenes spreading man-hating laws worldwide.

You see, the problem is not women, but it's mainly SJW women in Canada/USA who are behind the political force in spreading feminism and anti-male laws locally and abroad worldwide. Hopefully, Trump will become POTUS to help ease the feminist madness which has become a global epidemic and plague.

Post: #67

@Lucario: sorry to hear that, hope you come out ok. Also I dont want to be a dick, but that was some risky thing you did. Unless you know the girl very well or she is your LTR, you should not go raw, espcially in sluthole college... Those who do, it is assumed you understand the risk. That's like playing Russian roulette.

I used to be truly frustrated with women pre-redpill like everyone else, but learning game set me free. Even though I'm not that good in attracting women yet, what game did was understanding women to minimize disappointment.

I think to minimize frustration, 2 key things from game:

-Screening/Filtering: get away from women you dont like. @RBerkley, if you dont like Toronto women, please move. Its utterly unhealthy to be surrounded by people you dont like on a daily basis.

Screen for girls you are gaming. If you are gaming sluts, know that she is one, and take all precaution. I believe most of the problem guys have in game can be eliminated with proper screening. Dont go out / fuck girls with obvious crazy tell, unpleasant manners, etc. If all girls are like that in your area, move.

-Acceptance: you can't change girls just like you can't change bad weather. If you know it's gonna rain, bring an umbrella. If you know a girl is gonna flake, set up a date so you can enjoy yourself alone. Girls are gonna lie, so learn not to take them seriously.

Being able to do the above made me a lot happier. The only thing I still have a problem with is that women have it easier in life. When I go out with my girlfriend (or hot dates, before) I got treated like VIP, because she get treated like a VIP. She actually can not understand why she has to work because everything in her life has been free so far, while I have to work for every single scrap.

Then comes her period and I thank God every second that I am a man.

Count your blessings brothers.

Post: #68

(09-27-2016 05:34 AM)Lucario Wrote:  I have collapsed into a shell trying to escape my anxiety and frustration towards how I got deceived.

It has been very hard to actually trust women or even want to date them, cause not only can this make dating and banging very difficult...it can potentially prevent me from working in certain fields of the nursing profession.

Seriously have no idea to come back from this mindset regardless if this test comeback positive/negative.

Dude, you're aware there are new generation tests that can tell you instantly if you have it or not, right? If it's fucking with your head that much, might want to go somewhere that has that test and get it done with.

Post: #69

(09-26-2016 04:44 PM)spi Wrote:  I only have 48 hours per weekend, how best to spend those hours? Gaming for paltry results, or doing something I genuinely enjoy?

I've been told that it is bad to be comparing yourself to others. But when every man can run and I can still only crawl, its is a form of bitching out to tell yourself feel good bullshit like "don't compare yourself to others".

I guess I just wanted to say thanks for this thread, it resonated with me. Earlier today I knew when I came home, I had to finally read it. Rep given.

I never got the "don't compare yourself with others" crap. I've never seen it as anything other than sticking your head in the sand, and it doesn't mesh with the rest of the "red pill" stuff. If others are winning and you're not, it matters, a lot, and you can't deny that reality.

What you need is hope. There has to be a tangible plan, that you are legitimately executing, that has a chance of delivering you what you want. So long as you have that, you have hope, and that will assuage your anxiety.

Post: #70

(09-27-2016 02:52 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 05:34 AM)Lucario Wrote:  I have collapsed into a shell trying to escape my anxiety and frustration towards how I got deceived.

It has been very hard to actually trust women or even want to date them, cause not only can this make dating and banging very difficult...it can potentially prevent me from working in certain fields of the nursing profession.

Seriously have no idea to come back from this mindset regardless if this test comeback positive/negative.

Dude, you're aware there are new generation tests that can tell you instantly if you have it or not, right? If it's fucking with your head that much, might want to go somewhere that has that test and get it done with.

It takes 3 months for HIV to begin showing up in the blood stream so he has to wait until that passes before he takes the test. Once he takes the test, then yes you get the result in 15 min. They advise you to then retake the test after another 3-6 months(unfortunately I've had to take this test too). Lucario, how long has it been now?

Post: #71

(09-27-2016 05:42 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 02:52 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 05:34 AM)Lucario Wrote:  I have collapsed into a shell trying to escape my anxiety and frustration towards how I got deceived.

It has been very hard to actually trust women or even want to date them, cause not only can this make dating and banging very difficult...it can potentially prevent me from working in certain fields of the nursing profession.

Seriously have no idea to come back from this mindset regardless if this test comeback positive/negative.

Dude, you're aware there are new generation tests that can tell you instantly if you have it or not, right? If it's fucking with your head that much, might want to go somewhere that has that test and get it done with.

It takes 3 months for HIV to begin showing up in the blood stream so he has to wait until that passes before he takes the test. Once he takes the test, then yes you get the result in 15 min. They advise you to then retake the test after another 3-6 months(unfortunately I've had to take this test too). Lucario, how long has it been now?

It has been 6 weeks, I get my results tomorrow. then I have to get tested again after 6 weeks to finalize it.

Post: #72

(09-27-2016 05:42 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  It takes 3 months...

Medicine is an advancing field. By "showing up" I think you mean "antibodies are created and detectable". My understanding is the latest tests detect both antibodies and antigens, so they are faster but less certain.
http://www.aidsmap.com/Window-periods/page/1323353/

Post: #73

(09-28-2016 07:43 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  Medicine is an advancing field. By "showing up" I think you mean "antibodies are created and detectable". My understanding is the latest tests detect both antibodies and antigens, so they are faster but less certain.
http://www.aidsmap.com/Window-periods/page/1323353/

Yea there is something called a 4th generation HIV antibody/antigen test which will detect the virus as early as 28 days post-infection. It is extremely accurate. But it's still advisable to get re-tested at the 3 month mark (anything after that is unnecessary and just adds more anxiety).

I forget his name but one HIV specialist has said that HIV tests are the best tests invented for any medical condition...ever. They really are amazingly accurate.

Lucario, if you don't have it at 6 weeks, you don't have it. But for peace of mind get re-tested.

Post: #74

Don't forget to get revenge on the bitch for peace of mind.

Post: #75

2017 Bump.

I think about this post regularly, especially during winter. January-March are always the worst months, especially if your relationships are not fulfilling, but it's important to take Lizard's words to heart and make the most of the blessings around us.