Post: #1

Basically, if a women feels unsafe on a date, she can ask bar or restaurant staff for 'Angela' which is a code word to whisk her away from her date on the presumption that he's going to attack her. Can't see this system being abused.

Quote:Ask for Angela.

They are the three simple words that have the power to protect us on a night out.

After two successful years in England, this new safety campaign has made its way to Sydney, and will be officially rolled out across thirteen hundred venues from Saturday.

People feeling uncomfortable in a social situation are urged to approach staff at trial venues and "ask for Angela". (Supplied)

Staff are trained to know exactly what to do, when they hear the cue.

At a time when online dating apps are fast becoming the most common way of meeting new people, the campaign is designed to provide discreet assistance to those who find themselves in an uncomfortable or unsafe situation.

Simply approach staff and utter the word ‘Angela’ for help.

Staff have been trained at 1300 venues across Sydney CBD to respond. (Supplied)

Ahead of today’s launch, NSW police conducted their own research and the figures are confronting.

Police are hopeful this new code-word is strong enough to deter offenders and change public attitude.

“Contrary to perceptions we may be giving the game away, to me this is about influencing perp behaviour,” Assistant Commissioner Mark Walton said.

Staff will be able to extract you from a threatening or uncontrolled situation. (Supplied)

“If they see those signs, they know people are trained in that hotel, I'm confident that may affect their behaviour as well. That's what we're in the business of, preventing and disrupting crime.”

Sydney City Deputy Lord Mayor Jess Miller believes it's reinforcing a "zero tolerance" approach to poor behaviour, reaffirming that “everyone has a right to feel safe in the city, at all times.”

“We have the sense to know when things are not Feeling right & I think the worst-case scenario is walking out of a venue and not knowing what's going to happen next.”

Demonstration videos have been released, along with posters and other materials, to highlight the initiative. While staff across participating venues have undergone training with Licensing officers.

Chris Lucas is one of the managers at the Pull Hotel, in the Rocks, and admits he’s heard some horror stories. He, and his colleagues, have embraced the concept.

“If anyone is in a delicate situation or it’s getting volatile, or they just feel uncomfortable, they can come and see us – they can Ask for Angela and we can help them out in any way.”

The campaign has already been trialled in regional centres in New South Wales, with success in Wagga Wagga, Albury, Orange and Byron Bay. From Saturday (July 14) it will rolled out in Sydney’s CBD.

The message is clear – if you find yourself in trouble, Ask for Angela.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/0...ate_100718

Post: #2

Tsk, tsk.
All those nasty men attempting to abuse chicks in highly public venues...


More seriously though.
There goes any intent on my part of taking chicks on dates to venues or offering lifts or any kind of chivalrous behaviour.

The more difficult if becomes to date your basic arse. The less I'll bother from the outset. I do apathy very, very well don't ya' know...

Post: #3

(07-10-2018 05:18 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

Quote:After two successful years in England, this new safety campaign has made its way to Sydney, and will be officially rolled out across thirteen hundred venues from Saturday.

People feeling uncomfortable in a social situation are urged to approach staff at trial venues and "ask for Angela". (Supplied)

Staff are trained to know exactly what to do, when they hear the cue.

Sounds like the staff of a few Rotherham kebab shops didn't get the memo...

Post: #4

Mean-time.
Two people attend a venue on a date.
1/2 way through the question is put forth - "I'm asking for Angela."

Only caveat is...
The person who appears to be male is the one asking for Angela.
After-all, how can the PC minded staff have the gall to assume that one persons gender...?

Post: #5

The 1950s: Being with men is sinful!

The 1980s: Being with men will get you AIDS!

The 2010s: Being with men is "unsafe."

These are all different versions of the same tune, brought to you by The Junior Anti-Sex League.

All three of these propaganda-driven ideas are complete fiction, by the way. "Sin" is an invention of the church; AIDS never exploded into the straight community (despite massive media warnings); and most men are not dangerous criminals in any way.

The question is: What drives this sort of thinking? Do the people behind these ideas not want men and women to get together for some reason (Globalist economic ideas; fear of our primal biology) or do they just despise men?

Post: #6

(07-10-2018 05:18 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  The campaign has already been trialled in regional centres in New South Wales, with success in Wagga Wagga, Albury, Orange and Byron Bay. From Saturday (July 14) it will rolled out in Sydney’s CBD.

I noticed they mention Wagga Wagga, Albury, Orange and Byron Bay.
It seems even large country towns are getting cucked and one thing they have in common is they are being increasingly filled with white liberals who possess self-guilt.

This is all in the state of New South Wales which is on the eastern side of Australia. It would be interesting to see them do this in the tropical northern parts of Australia where their mentality is different.

(07-10-2018 06:22 AM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  Sounds like the staff of a few Rotherham kebab shops didn't get the memo...

Neither will the struggling Asian businesses who may have better things to worry about.
Meanwhile didn't someone write a zero-date bang datasheet?

Post: #7

(07-10-2018 07:11 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The question is: What drives this sort of thinking? Do the people behind these ideas not want men and women to get together for some reason (Globalist economic ideas; fear of our primal biology) or do they just despise men?

The primary thing that drives it is PR by the pubs. You're only hearing about this through the media because, per the Chomsky Propaganda Model, things don't get advertised or written about unless they pass the corporate and elite filters. Western women as a group drink like fish, and the class of consumer this initiative is aimed at by definition has disposable income:
(1) they have a computer or an iPhone since that's how they made the date to begin with,
(2) they have enough money to do all their drinking in town under the pub's roof, rather than preload at home -- generally women don't get plastered before going on a Tinder date
(3) they're young and stupid and narcissistic but not cute enough to derive their primary income from alcohol-free places like Dubai.

This is a measure not to make the women feel more comfortable about being on a date, but more comfortable spending time in a pub. It even has a handy, memorable advertising slogan: "Ask for Angela."

An analogue: hotels with a capital H across the world often exhort you to "Think of the environment", i.e. reuse your towels once or twice. You comply with this request to make yourself feel a little better and think a little bit better of the hotel, nice world citizen they are. Of course, the hotel doesn't mention that you doing this saves them tens of thousands of dollars per year, i.e. increases their profitability primarily, no matter if your odds of a nice case of listeria or herpes are a little higher. Beware someone who is saying something will be good for you who won't suffer any consequences if it turns out to be bad.

More than that, let's consider the form of situation this strange verbal "duress alarm" is designed for. This code word is designed for women who literally don't have the wherewithal (or the parenting, perhaps) to, when they're having a bad date, excuse themselves to go to the toilet, scream loudly, or God forbid approach the Neanderthal with the small bow tie at the door who generally has several dozen pounds on the Gameless rube (not to mention a few cloned buddies).

Why must you now speak a fucking weird code word in order to tell someone that you're in the middle of a shit date and you want either a taxi for yourself or a taxi with blue checkerboards for Mr Zeta Tinycock? Because the chick is embarrassed to ask for help. Because she is more worried about what everyone else around her in the pub is going to think if she says the guy is really creepy.

The fact it's a bunch of wizards in blue who came up with this idea* and went out and spent a shitload of taxpayers' money telling a bunch of barmaids and tappers to call the cops when some chick asks for Angela is more troubling. Particularly so when up to this point Australian police still had sufficient testicles to generally tell women to fuck off and stop walking through dark public parks as a rape prevention strategy. But then this, too, is all part of the program: because the state is always interested in your life, and if it can co-opt corporations into helping it get in there, so much the better. Consider the implications: this turns every bar staff member in New South Wales into a fucking deputy, with obligations to call the police on someone's ass if one person feels uncomfortable in a social situation.

If we had any freethinkers left, they'd be rolling up to pubs in their dozens and all summoning Angela on each other. But we don't, so ...




* I somehow doubt they did. Ten bucks says the Australian Hoteliers' Association was approached with this idea first by SJWs -- who then went to the cops to suggest it, because as I said it has great corporate indoctrination potential.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #8

^ Paracelsus gets it.

Think about it. If you've loudly advertised the meaning of "Ask for Angela" to the point that everyone knows about it, it is now no more discrete than simply saying "I feel unsafe, please help me get out of here." Your supposed attacker knows what it means and will be just as provoked. Everyone around you knows what it means and will be looking around trying to figure out who the creep is. It's a meaningless campaign to make spending all your disposable income on well gin feel less inherently sketchy.

Post: #9

You might as well order appetizers then.

G

Post: #10

(07-10-2018 07:57 AM)Jetset Wrote:  Think about it. If you've loudly advertised the meaning of "Ask for Angela" to the point that everyone knows about it, it is now no more discrete than simply saying "I feel unsafe, please help me get out of here." Your supposed attacker knows what it means and will be just as provoked.

That was my thought on it

How is "asking for Angela" any different to just asking for help, other than adding in a potentially misinterpret-able step of misdirection to the act? (ie; "who the fuck is Angela? You needa sober the fuck up and get out of here miss" --> lawsuit for the ill informed bar tender)

Seems to be nothing more than adding more people into the equation to offload responsibility and blame to

Post: #11

(07-10-2018 07:11 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  The 1950s: Being with men is sinful!

The 1980s: Being with men will get you AIDS!

The 2010s: Being with men is "unsafe."

These are all different versions of the same tune, brought to you by The Junior Anti-Sex League.

All three of these propaganda-driven ideas are complete fiction, by the way. "Sin" is an invention of the church; AIDS never exploded into the straight community (despite massive media warnings); and most men are not dangerous criminals in any way.

The question is: What drives this sort of thinking? Do the people behind these ideas not want men and women to get together for some reason (Globalist economic ideas; fear of our primal biology) or do they just despise men?

I somewhat disagree that these are all "different versions of the same tune", since there were very, very good reasons to discourage sex before marriage, when birth control did not exist.

HoweverI agree that modern "sex is dangerous/evil/sinful!" initiatives come from different groups who all have one thing in common. The groups are varied, some are "conservative" and religious, others are hardcore left wing feminists, but they are all singing the same tune, as you put it.

They are genetic misfires who subconsciously fear losing the game of reproduction, and use deception, social engineering, and manipulation to try and stop anyone else from winning.

Deeply maladjusted kids at my college would often join the weirdo christian youth group, and promise never to have sex. Or, they would become "bicurious". Or, they would become feminist "anti-rape" crusaders. In all cases, they were the bottom of the barrel and totally neurotic. In medieval Europe, these people were sent to a monastery or convent, where they were conveniently never heard from again. We probably need something similar now.

Post: #12

This is Angela:

Quote:Judge Royce Taylor sentenced Angela Elizabeth Montgomery to 40 years in prison.

Montgomery was found guilty in early March on six counts of rape of a child. Montgomery was charged with raping her own two children multiple times when she lived in Rutherford County more than a decade ago.

https://www.dnj.com/story/news/2015/05/0.../70908562/

Post: #13

Could be very useful. You are on a date. Girl is glued to the phone, is not pleasant to be around, you aren't feeling that into her, or the date is just not going well.

You know you are going to be expected to pay the bill, but since you know nothing's going to follow or happen you start to feel very uncomfortable in this specific situation.

It's now been established that you have a right to feel safe. The date is making you feel... well... quite unsafe.

You either signal for the waiter or get up to find an employee near the hostess area. Maybe you just ask for the manager of the establishment and mention how you had a friend named Angela.

Either way you may be quietly whispering her name under muttered breath to the workers there.

Angela. Angela!

You need immediate extraction from that restaurant. Your safety depends on it. Any more time there and you may have a panic attack and suffer severe crippling anxiety which could invoke full-scale depression.

You have no choice but to leave immediately and leave to ensure your date gone bad is stuck with the bill and possibly more.

Post: #14

If a woman's gonna bail on a date I really doubt she needs this manufactured excuse.

Post: #15

(07-10-2018 05:18 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  Basically, if a women feels unsafe on a date, she can ask bar or restaurant staff for 'Angela' which is a code word to whisk her away from her date on the presumption that he's going to attack her. Can't see this system being abused.

Quote:Ask for Angela.

They are the three simple words that have the power to protect us on a night out.

After two successful years in England, this new safety campaign has made its way to Sydney, and will be officially rolled out across thirteen hundred venues from Saturday.

People feeling uncomfortable in a social situation are urged to approach staff at trial venues and "ask for Angela". (Supplied)

Staff are trained to know exactly what to do, when they hear the cue.

At a time when online dating apps are fast becoming the most common way of meeting new people, the campaign is designed to provide discreet assistance to those who find themselves in an uncomfortable or unsafe situation.

Simply approach staff and utter the word ‘Angela’ for help.

Staff have been trained at 1300 venues across Sydney CBD to respond. (Supplied)

Ahead of today’s launch, NSW police conducted their own research and the figures are confronting.

Police are hopeful this new code-word is strong enough to deter offenders and change public attitude.

“Contrary to perceptions we may be giving the game away, to me this is about influencing perp behaviour,” Assistant Commissioner Mark Walton said.

Staff will be able to extract you from a threatening or uncontrolled situation. (Supplied)

“If they see those signs, they know people are trained in that hotel, I'm confident that may affect their behaviour as well. That's what we're in the business of, preventing and disrupting crime.”

Sydney City Deputy Lord Mayor Jess Miller believes it's reinforcing a "zero tolerance" approach to poor behaviour, reaffirming that “everyone has a right to feel safe in the city, at all times.”

“We have the sense to know when things are not Feeling right & I think the worst-case scenario is walking out of a venue and not knowing what's going to happen next.”

Demonstration videos have been released, along with posters and other materials, to highlight the initiative. While staff across participating venues have undergone training with Licensing officers.

Chris Lucas is one of the managers at the Pull Hotel, in the Rocks, and admits he’s heard some horror stories. He, and his colleagues, have embraced the concept.

“If anyone is in a delicate situation or it’s getting volatile, or they just feel uncomfortable, they can come and see us – they can Ask for Angela and we can help them out in any way.”

The campaign has already been trialled in regional centres in New South Wales, with success in Wagga Wagga, Albury, Orange and Byron Bay. From Saturday (July 14) it will rolled out in Sydney’s CBD.

The message is clear – if you find yourself in trouble, Ask for Angela.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/0...ate_100718

Oh no, the bottle of prosecco he bought wasn`t the vintage I like, better `Ask for Angela.` As if these cunts weren`t spoiled enough already! Jees.

Post: #16

If you are a bartender in Australia this could wind up a puusy golmine.

Have a mate set up some Australian Tinder dates. Get a few fosters in your mate so he acts like a bogan. When the sheila realises he's an ankle biter she goes to the bartender and says "is bloody Angela bloody here?" Then the bar tender turns on the down under protector charm.

He says "hop in my ute sheila, the one with the roo bar" and off you go.

Edit: i speak Australian

Aloha!

Post: #17

This seems like another one of these female group projects, wherein the chicks involved all confuse their activities for personal agency. They get together, have some lattes, and spend the taxpayer's money on some useless shite. Then they act like they accomplished something of personal value or merit.

Moreover, nothing screams basic bitch quite like "Sydney City Deputy Lord Mayor Jess Miller..."

Post: #18

I certainly hope no one goes to a restaurant and uses this as a way to slip away just before the bill comes.

Post: #19

Somewhat related :

Post: #20

(07-12-2018 05:19 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  I certainly hope no one goes to a restaurant and uses this as a way to slip away just before the bill comes.

On the other hand they'll find Ask for Angela a real flop once too many leave before paying.

Post: #21

Also, if you needed further evidence that this is primarily marketing by the pubs: the fact that the only participating venues are licensed venues. That is, places that sell alcohol. The official media release from NSW police said:

Quote:Minister for Racing, Paul Toole, said “Ask for Angela” was a great example of the valuable work Liquor Accords are doing to target alcohol-related violence and anti-social behaviour.

“The Liquor Accords play a key role in the government’s approach to alcohol regulation,” Mr Toole said.

“They represent a true collaboration between licensed venues, police, Liquor & Gaming NSW and local communities.”

Central Metropolitan Region Police Commander, Mark Walton APM, said Licensing officers are already training venue staff.

“We have been working with our Liquor Accord partners, the Australian Hotels Association, the City of Sydney and others to ensure staff can respond to the code-word concept.

“It could be someone on a social media-arranged first date or perhaps a couple has met at one of the 13-hundred or so licensed venues in the Sydney CBD,” Assistant Commissioner Walton said.

The pubs want more of the Tinder date market, and by doing this they get a state-sponsored leg up on their competition. If you're a young and paranoid Tinderista who's being asked "Where do you want to meet?" by Mr Omega Tinycock, what are you going to choose:

(a) your local and unlicensed Starbucks, which has no alcohol and no Angela policy, but which is going to likely be safer since nobody is sauced to their gills and therefore less likely to make creepy suggestions on you; or
(b) your friendly, Big-But-Unjudgmental-Daddy alcohol abuse den which even has a genuine policy to get you out of paying for your date and gets you a free ride home if the guy arcs up and says "Fuck you, isn't it feminist to go Dutch?"

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #22

The smart businesses will put a cocktail on their menu called "The Angela."

Post: #23

(07-15-2018 12:43 AM)Suits Wrote:  The smart businesses will put a cocktail on their menu called "The Angela."

Sounds like a recipe for confusion when some clueless girl inevitably orders it every week.

Post: #24

(07-15-2018 01:00 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  

(07-15-2018 12:43 AM)Suits Wrote:  The smart businesses will put a cocktail on their menu called "The Angela."

Sounds like a recipe for confusion when some clueless girl inevitably orders it every week.

Just make sure that she doesn't leave without paying.

Post: #25

(07-11-2018 06:45 PM)Kona Wrote:  fosters

lol.