Post: #1

A well written one

Quote:"My generation of boys is f**ked," says Rupert, a young German video game enthusiast I've been getting to know over the past few months. "Marriage is dead. Divorce means you're screwed for life. Women have given up on monogamy, which makes them uninteresting to us for any serious relationship or raising a family. That's just the way it is. Even if we take the risk, chances are the kids won't be ours. In France, we even have to pay for the kids a wife has through adulterous affairs.

"In school, boys are screwed over time and again. Schools are engineered for women. In the US, they force-feed boys Ritalin like Skittles to shut them up. And while girls are favoured to fulfil quotas, men are slipping into distant second place.
"Nobody in my generation believes they're going to get a meaningful retirement. We have a third or a quarter of the wealth previous generations had, and everyone's fleeing to higher education to stave off unemployment and poverty because there are no jobs.

"All that wouldn't be so bad if we could at least dull the pain with girls. But we're treated like paedophiles and potential rapists just for showing interest. My generation are the beautiful ones," he sighs, referring to a 1960s experiment on mice that supposedly predicted a grim future for the human race.

After overpopulation ran out of control, the female mice in John Calhoun's "mouse universe" experiment stopped breeding, and the male mice withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming themselves but doing little else. They had shiny coats, but empty lives.

"The parallels are astounding," says Rupert.
*
Never before in history have relations between the sexes been so fraught with anxiety, animosity and misunderstanding. To radical feminists, who have been the driving force behind many tectonic societal shifts in recent decades, that's a sign of success: they want to tear down the institutions and power structures that underpin society, never mind the fall-out. Nihilistic destruction is part of their road map.

But, for the rest of us, the sight of society breaking down, and ordinary men and women being driven into separate but equal misery, thanks to a small but highly organised group of agitators, is distressing. Particularly because, as increasing numbers of social observers are noticing, an entire generation of young people—mostly men—are being left behind in the wreckage of this social engineering project.

Social commentators, journalists, academics, scientists and young men themselves have all spotted the trend: among men of about 15 to 30 years old, ever-increasing numbers are checking out of society altogether, giving up on women, sex and relationships and retreating into pornography, sexual fetishes, chemical addictions, video games and, in some cases, boorish lad culture, all of which insulate them from a hostile, debilitating social environment created, some argue, by the modern feminist movement.

You can hardly blame them. Cruelly derided as man-children and crybabies for objecting to absurdly unfair conditions in college, bars, clubs and beyond, men are damned if they do and damned if they don't: ridiculed as basement-dwellers for avoiding aggressive, demanding women with unrealistic expectations, or called rapists and misogynists merely for expressing sexual interest.

Jack Rivlin is editor-in-chief of student tabloid media start-up The Tab, a runaway success whose current strap-line reads: "We'll stop writing it when you stop reading it." As the guiding intelligence behind over 30 student newspapers, Rivlin is perhaps the best-placed person in the country to observe this trend in action. And he agrees that the current generation of young men find it particularly difficult to engage with women.

"Teenage boys always have been useless with girls, but there's definitely a fear that now being well-intentioned isn't enough, and you can get into trouble just for being clumsy," he says. "For example, leaning in for a kiss might see you branded a creep, rather than just inept."

The new rules men are expected to live by are never clearly explained, says Rivlin, leaving boys clueless and neurotic about interacting with girls. "That might sound like a good thing because it encourages men to take the unromantic but practical approach of asking women how they should behave, but it causes a lot of them to just opt out of the game and retreat to the sanctuary of their groups of lads, where being rude to women gets you approval, and you can pretty much entirely avoid one-on-one socialising with the opposite sex."

"There are also a lot of blokes who ignore women because they are scared and don't know how to act. It goes without saying that boys who never spend any time alone with women are not very good at relationships."

Rivlin has noticed the increased dependence on substances, normally alcohol, that boys are using to calm their nerves. "I've heard a lot of male students boast about never having experienced sober sex," he says. "They're obviously scared, which is natural, but they would be a lot less scared and dysfunctional if they understood 'the rules.'"

The result? "A lot of nice but awkward young men are opting out of approaching women because there is no opportunity for them to make mistakes without suffering worse embarrassment than ever."

Most troublingly, this effect is felt more acutely among poorer and less well educated communities, where the package of support resources available to young men is slight. At my alma mater, the University of Cambridge, the phenomenon barely registers on the radar, according to Union society president Tim Squirrell.

"I don't think I've really noticed a change recently," he says. "This year has seen the introduction of mandatory consent workshops for freshers, which I believe is probably a good thing, and there's been a big effort by the Women's Campaign in particular to try and combat lad culture on campus.

The atmosphere here is the same as it was a year ago - mostly nerdy guys who are too afraid to approach anyone in the first place, and then a smaller percentage who are confident enough to make a move. Obviously women have agency too, and they approach men in about the same numbers as they do elsewhere. There certainly haven't been any stories in [campus newspaper] The Tab about a sex drought on campus."

"I think that people are probably having as much sex as ever," he adds. At Cambridge, of course, that may not mean much, and for a variety of socioeconomic and class-based reasons the tribes at Oxford and Cambridge are somewhat insulated from the male drop-out effect.

But even at such a prestigious university with a largely middle- and upper-class population, those patronising, mandatory "consent" classes are still being implemented. Squirrell, who admits to being a feminist with left-of-centre politics, thinks they're a good idea. But academics such as Camille Paglia have been warning for years that "rape drives" on campus put women at greater risk, if anything.

Women today are schooled in victimhood, taught to be aggressively vulnerable and convinced that the slightest of perceived infractions, approaches or clumsy misunderstandings represents "assault," "abuse" or "harassment." That may work in the safe confines of campus, where men can have their academic careers destroyed on the mere say-so of a female student.

But, according to Paglia, when that women goes out into the real world without the safety net of college rape committees, she is left totally unprepared for the sometimes violent reality of male sexuality. And the panics and fear-mongering are serving men even more poorly. All in all, education is becoming a miserable experience for boys.
*
In schools today across Britain and America, boys are relentlessly pathologised, as academics were warning as long ago as 2001. Boyishness and boisterousness have come to be seen as "problematic," with girls' behaviour a gold standard against which these defective boys are measured. When they are found wanting, the solution is often drugs.

One in seven American boys will be diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) at some point in their school career. Millions will be prescribed a powerful mood stabiliser, such as Ritalin, for the crime of being born male. The side effects of these drugs can be hideous and include sudden death.

Meanwhile, boys are falling behind girls academically, perhaps because relentless and well-funded focus has been placed on girls' achievement in the past few decades and little to none on the boys who are now achieving lower grades, fewer honors, fewer degrees and less marketable information economy skills. Boys' literacy, in particular, is in crisis throughout the West. We've been obsessing so much over girls, we haven't noticed that boys have slipped into serious academic trouble.

So what happened to those boys who, in 2001, were falling behind girls at school, were less likely to go to college, were being given drugs they did not need and whose self-esteem and confidence issues haven't just been ignored, but have been actively ridiculed by the feminist Establishment that has such a stranglehold on teaching unions and Left-leaning political parties?

In short: they grew up, dysfunctional, under-served by society, deeply miserable and, in many cases, entirely unable to relate to the opposite sex. It is the boys who were being betrayed by the education system and by culture at large in such vast numbers between 1990 and 2010 who represent the first generation of what I call the sexodus, a large-scale exit from mainstream society by males who have decided they simply can't face, or be bothered with, forming healthy relationships and participating fully in their local communities, national democracies and other real-world social structures.

A second sexodus generation is gestating today, potentially with even greater damage being done to them by the onset of absurd, unworkable, prudish and downright misandrist laws such as California's "Yes Means Yes" legislation—and by third-wave feminism, which dominates newspapers like the Guardian and new media companies like Vox and Gawker, but which is currently enjoying a hysterical last gasp before women themselves reject it by an even greater margin than the present 4 out of 5 women who say they want nothing to do with the dreaded f-word.
*
The sexodus didn't arrive out of nowhere, and the same pressures that have forced so many millennials out of society exert pressure on their parent's generation, too. One professional researcher in his late thirties, about whom I have been conversing on this topic for some months, puts it spicily: "For the past, at least, 25 years, I've been told to do more and more to keep a woman. But nobody's told me what they're doing to keep me.

"I can tell you as a heterosexual married male in management, who didn’t drop out of society, the message from the chicks is: 'It's not just preferable that you should fuck off, but imperative. You must pay for everything and make everything work; but you yourself and your preferences and needs can fuck off and die.'"

Women have been sending men mixed messages for the last few decades, leaving boys utterly confused about what they are supposed to represent to women, which perhaps explains the strong language some of them use when describing their situation. As the role of breadwinner has been taken away from them by women who earn more and do better in school, men are left to intuit what to do, trying to find a virtuous mean between what women say they want and what they actually pursue, which can be very different things.

Men say the gap between what women say and what they do has never been wider. Men are constantly told they should be delicate, sensitive fellow travellers on the feminist path. But the same women who say they want a nice, unthreatening boyfriend go home and swoon over simple-minded, giant-chested, testosterone-saturated hunks in Game of Thrones. Men know this, and, for some, this giant inconsistency makes the whole game look too much like hard work. Why bother trying to work out what a woman wants, when you can play sports, masturbate or just play video games from the comfort of your bedroom?

Jack Donovan, a writer based in Portland who has written several books on men and masculinity, each of which has become a cult hit, says the phenomenon is already endemic among the adult population. "I do see a lot of young men who would otherwise be dating and marrying giving up on women," he explains, "Or giving up on the idea of having a wife and family. This includes both the kind of men who would traditionally be a little awkward with women, and the kind of men who aren't awkward with women at all.

"They've done a cost-benefit analysis and realised it is a bad deal. They know that if they invest in a marriage and children, a woman can take all of that away from them on a whim. So they use apps like Tinder and OK Cupid to find women to have protected sex with and resign themselves to being 'players,' or when they get tired of that, 'boyfriends.'"

He goes on: "Almost all young men have attended mandatory sexual harassment and anti-rape seminars, and they know that they can be fired, expelled or arrested based more or less on the word of any woman. They know they are basically guilty until proven innocent in most situations."

Donovan lays much of the blame for the way men feel at the door of the modern feminist movement and what he sees as its disingenuousness. "The young men who are struggling the most are conflicted because they are operating under the assumption that feminists are arguing in good faith," he says, "When in fact they are engaged in a zero-sum struggle for sexual, social, political and economic status—and they're winning.

"The media now allows radical feminists to frame all debates, in part because sensationalism attracts more clicks than any sort of fair or balanced discourse. Women can basically say anything about men, no matter how denigrating, to a mix of cheers and jeers."

That has certainly been the experience of several loose coalitions of men in the media recently, whether scientists outraged by feminist denunciations of Dr Matt Taylor, or video gamers campaigning under the banner of press ethics who saw their movement smeared as a misogynistic hate group by mendacious, warring feminists and so-called "social justice warriors".

Donovan has views on why it has been so easy for feminists to triumph in media battles. "Because men instinctively want to protect women and play the hero, if a man writes even a tentative criticism of women or feminism, he's denounced by men and women alike as some kind of extremist scoundrel. The majority of "men's studies" and "men's rights" books and blogs that aren't explicitly pro-feminist are littered with apologies to women.

"Books like The Myth of Male Power and sites like A Voice for Men are favourite boogeymen of feminists, but only because they call out feminists' one-sided hypocrisy when it comes to pursing 'equality.'"

Unlike modern feminists, who are driving a wedge between the sexes, Men's Rights Activists "actually seem to want sexual equality," he says. But men's studies authors and male academics are constantly tip-toeing around and making sure they don't appear too radical. Their feminine counterparts have no such forbearance, of course, with what he calls "hipster feminists," such as the Guardian's Jessica Valenti parading around in t-shirts that read: "I BATHE IN MALE TEARS."

"I'm a critic of feminism," says Donovan. "But I would never walk around wearing a shirt that says, "I MAKE WOMEN CRY." I'd just look like a jerk and a bully."

It's the contention of academics, sociologists and writers like Jack Donovan that an atmosphere of relentless, jeering hostility to men from entitled middle-class media figures, plus a few confused male collaborators in the feminist project, has been at least partly responsible for a generation of boys who simply don't want to know.

Post: #2

In further installments, Milo @Nero should mention the Japanese guys who innovated this way of life.

Post: #3

This withdrawl process won't work in the long run. Things will progress to the point where most male-male interactions are mediated by women. Without patriarchy or a solid family structure men will increasingly socialise with men that their girlfriends know or are dating their girlfriends friends. This means that men will find themselves in the position where men will have greater loyalty to the women in a social group than the men. Bottomline is too many men will sell out guys around them for sex, the promise of sex or to be esteemed by women.Opting out is just not an option for the majority of men.

Post: #4

(12-04-2014 02:46 PM)Deepburn Wrote:  This withdrawl process won't work in the long run. Things will progress to the point where most male-male interactions are mediated by women. Without patriarchy or a solid family structure men will increasingly socialise with men that their girlfriends know or are dating their girlfriends friends. This means that men will find themselves in the position where men will have greater loyalty to the women in a social group than the men. Bottomline is too many men will sell out guys around them for sex, the promise of sex or to be esteemed by women.Opting out is just not an option for the majority of men.

Nah - what the article at Breitbart even misses is that sex is going on as before, but the distribution of sex is ever more slanted.

Already in the current generation of students 40-45% of men are incels at colleges.

In the future I see the top 10-20% having dozens of sexual partners, while the incels constitute 60% of male students. The top 1% will likely collect n-counts of 100+ easily in college or even live in almost hard harems.

Sex is going on as usual - yeah, but who is getting it among the men?

The same will be going on for the general population after school. There will be a bigger number of incels, asexuals and buy-sexuals. Ever more high-performing men will opt to become Players learning Game and fucking hundreds each. Girls will be the real losers there as they spend their best years cock-hopping and then trying to settle for a provider Beta being left alone, since the Betas have either given up on marriage or did not even get a job good enough to support a wife.

I foresee many weeping psychotic cougars and single-moms in their 30s, who are "going their own" fucked up way.

Post: #5

(12-04-2014 03:16 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I foresee many weeping psychotic cougars and single-moms in their 30s, who are "going their own" fucked up way.

The day that the washed up spinsters realize that there aren't anymore well paid nice guys around is going to be hilarious.

We're quickly reaching our limits. Hearing that most guys have between 4-6 partners cracks me up.

Post: #6

Quote:"For the past, at least, 25 years, I've been told to do more and more to keep a woman. But nobody's told me what they're doing to keep me.

"I can tell you as a heterosexual married male in management, who didn’t drop out of society, the message from the chicks is: 'It's not just preferable that you should fuck off, but imperative. You must pay for everything and make everything work; but you yourself and your preferences and needs can fuck off and die.'"

I'm surprised to see something like this on a more mainstream site.

He even quoted manosphere author Jack Donovan, instead of some "Men's Studies" turd like Michael Kimmel...maybe things are starting to seep through.

Post: #7

(12-04-2014 03:40 PM)Renzy Wrote:  I'm surprised to see something like this on a more mainstream site.

He even quoted manosphere author Jack Donovan, instead of some "Men's Studies" turd like Michael Kimmel...maybe things are starting to seep through.

Yeah - it's moving more mainstream, but I have no illusions. Agendas sometimes go 2 steps forward and then have to take one step back, before moving forward again.

The young boys are getting indoctrinated as we speak - they will be even worse male feminists:

   

Young boys describing in school what they don't like about being a boy.
The crap is not something young boys come up by themselves - this is early propaganda.



Legions of cads and Lords of Righteous Karma are the solution - let the aging ones become suicidal fatties.

Post: #8

Give women an inch and they take a mile. You give them the right to vote and next thing you know they are destroying civilization.

Society will not function well when most children are born out of wedlock and most men are not getting any sex.

I guess the only saving grace for red pill men is that nearly all of society is lazy and entitled, so few of the incel men will be willing to read the literature on the red pill or put in the effort to learn and practice game. I see this in my friends. I honestly dont know where they expect women to come from. They often rely heavily on their social circles to meet women & most have extremely low notch counts (less than 10; some less than 5). They think that because they have great careers that women will somehow flock to them. I have been pretty aggressive since taking the red pill in trying to get my friends to read some of the books but most of them are too lazy to even do that. I dont have that high of a notch count (28) but my friends think I am some kind of man whore.

There is laziness everywhere (even in our red pill community). I see Krauser constantly mentioning this on Twitter or in his blog when complaining about his readers. He is right to do so though. Krauser literally put in years of study & practice to transform himself from an emotionally wrecked blue pill guy into a beauty slaying red pill Casanova. It was a literal transformation. Everyone wants the easy way out. Let's be honest, lots of guys here are reliant on internet game (Tinder, OKCupid, POF) and that is a form of laziness if that's your only source of tail (I am not being critical of the guys who do it, I am often guilty of it as well). It is a lot of work to go out for a morning/afternoon and run daygame. It is a lot of work to go to the clubs (either solo or with a wing) and run night game. Overcoming approach anxiety, passing shit tests, being cocky & funny, and having a cocksure demeanor is hard work. It is really easy to swipe right or email a copy pasta. On the bright side, the guys who are doing this and using their red pill knowledge are still racking up notches. That should speak volumes about the blue pill community and how they are absolutely out of touch with the female gender that they cant even get laid with internet game.

Laziness is what separates the men from the boys. It's what separates the red pill from the blue pill. It's what separates folks like Roosh & Krauser from the rest of us. Laziness is what will separate the incels, herbs, and MGTOWs from the guys with harems in the future.

Post: #9

Long lives Roosh.. Long lives masculinity

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I have disabled ad block plus, abe, and ghostery for this article. I want them to receive more ad money.

The comments on this article, seems to have exploded, but I do not keep track of how fast articles on this site rack them up.

This article.... makes me sad. Guys aren't getting laid, so why maintain and contribute to society?
I depend on garbagemen, maintenance workers, factory workers, and many others, to keep my business going.

A pillar does not degrade from the top down, it degrades at the bottom, then majestically comes crashing down, bringing along everything around it. I love the society that I live in, I am comfortable and happy, I love how easy EVERYTHING is in life, due to the hard work and structure built by my foreFATHERS. I really don't want to have to go hunting and foraging every day to survive, I like going to the grocery store.

Post: #11

It's just an incentive for men in general. When you screw with the very delicate equilibrium of human nature, all hell will break loose. Sociopathic alphas will benefit, feminists/women who internalize its belief will be cast out into their docile spinster future.

Post: #12

(12-04-2014 03:53 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  Give women an inch and they take a mile. You give them the right to vote and next thing you know they are destroying civilization.

Society will not function well when most children are born out of wedlock and most men are not getting any sex.

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Culturally civilization for the bottom levels may be getting destroyed by them as we move ever more into a Brave New World society. Fortunately due to technology and automation civilization can be maintained by 10-20% of high-performers.

Today I got a stark reminder of how little our male sacrifices and our performance are appreciated. A former LTR contacted me furiously over some minor thing that I forgot to cancel that still went on in her name. She even fucking threatened me as if she were some kind of Mob wife saying that she can do it "differently".

The funny thing is that the costs that might have hit her would be maybe 200$, but she seemingly forgot that we lived together for 3 years in the past and she was fully supported by me financially for 2,5 years. She quit her job and basically relaxed staying at home and having her hobbies. I paid for everything and even transferred cash just like that to her account, so she could go shopping and stuff. Even when I broke up our LTR finally I gave her some decent start-up cash and arranged for her to get a good job (the first decent one in her life). We split amicably and she met an Alpha later on (and ROK reader) and got a child with him. Now I did not care about the money back then, because I was comfortable, but this kind of behavior really reminded me of all the stories on Rational Male.

And now she goes apeshit on me over a potential 200$ bill?! A bill that I would pay anyway.

Fuck that - it makes me want to be a full-fledged Player and leave the part-time Player lifestyle behind (whenever I am traveling I am instantly single and my current LTR knows it).

Maybe the times for a stable relationship are gone - Brave New World is almost upon us.

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Post: #14

(12-04-2014 03:40 PM)Renzy Wrote:  I'm surprised to see something like this on a more mainstream site.

He even quoted manosphere author Jack Donovan, instead of some "Men's Studies" turd

Based upon the type of articles appearing in this thread over the last six months, there's a definite schism forming between gay men and feminists. Milo and Jack know what they're doing.

Post: #15

Don't undetestimate thirst. Guys stay married to 250lbers all the time.

But yeah technology and mobility now allows players to effectively lock down 5-10 girls with relative ease if they want to out in the work.

Problem is no matter how easy being a player becomes you won't have enough to service the women.

I think women need to have that male stimulation to stay hot. Less attractive guys with frame control means less hot chicks. It's rarer to find non players with frame control.

Post: #16

This is an amazing article. Thanks for sharing. That "beautiful ones" experiment is chillingly accurate.

Post: #17

I have avoided mainstream "society" for most of life. But, not because of women.

"I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"

Before you give up on women, I recommended fixing all of your major flaws and studying/practicing the art and science of social interaction.

If you give on women before doing this, you lack courage, conviction or you are just lazy.

You probably can not fix society. But, you certainly can fix your own life.

Adapt or Die!

Post: #18

(12-04-2014 03:20 PM)frenchie Wrote:  The day that the washed up spinsters realize that there aren't anymore well paid nice guys around is going to be hilarious.

We're quickly reaching our limits. Hearing that most guys have between 4-6 partners cracks me up.

This is already happening...in fact I would say this has already happened to some extent.

I have a few friends with solid stable careers, nice guys (blue pill, not low value (solid friend groups and stay busy with sports, etc), but go months, even more than a year, without banging because they want to date an attractive chic.

Then eventually they break up (the last one broke the girls heart) and move on to celibate lifestyle until the next chic comes along. They are inadvertently MGTOW.

The point is guys adjust even if they're ignorant or in denial, just as companies can be in denial about market pressures but become more competitive out of necessity and without realizing it.

Post: #19

(12-04-2014 04:50 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have avoided mainstream "society" for most of life. But, not because of women.

"I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"

Before you give up on women, I recommended fixing all of your major flaws and studying/practicing the art and science of social interaction.

If you give on women before doing this, you lack courage, conviction or you are just lazy.

You probably can not fix society. But, you certainly can fix your own life.

Adapt or Die!

I'm trying to figure out a way to profit off the decline.

Right now I'm thinking about cat toys. Before you roll your eyes, just read on a little bit. The current toys on the cat toy market look boring as hell and usually aren't at all political.

As we all know, bitches love dumb politics and H8 H8. They also love cats!

I really think there might be a market for homo rainbow transgender clown, abortion, and feminist issue-related cat toys. What do you think?

Also thinking Starbucks for cats and small dogs.

Post: #20

Good suggestion.
Maybe the feminists could also end up saying that a cat toy can only be a male cat, because playing with ''female'' cats isn't PC!

Post: #21

Women have 0 effect on my participation in society.

- I do not attend church because I am neither religious or willing to participate in boring activities.

- I do not go to book clubs because I do not care about talking to others nor following guidelines about a book. If a book is good and reads well I keep it.

If someone down the line mentions it I will chat about it.

- I may seem selfish by saying this but I only do charitable things to look good on my CV if it is relevant. I hate the fact you have to do all of this bullshit extras to "stand out" for graduate positions.

Other than shopping for food, clothes and particular items I don't spend. I have my gaming vices and when I go out it is for two things only, fun with friends & sex.

Quote:Men say the gap between what women say and what they do has never been wider. Men are constantly told they should be delicate, sensitive fellow travellers on the feminist path. But the same women who say they want a nice, unthreatening boyfriend go home and swoon over simple-minded, giant-chested, testosterone-saturated hunks in Game of Thrones.

Men know this, and, for some, this giant inconsistency makes the whole game look too much like hard work. Why bother trying to work out what a woman wants, when you can play sports, masturbate or just play video games from the comfort of your bedroom?

This part is the most important I reckon. When the likes of Zyzz comes out of nowhere, develops a total knob persona and gets laid regularly with smokeshows it tells a story.

WOmen want fast fun like men do but it isn't natural. A woman seeking fun is different to a man. Their brains are wired differently and this forum is clued up on how this fucks with their minds.

Now take some gullible, low-notch man who see's this and how do you think he will react? Will he develop severe oneitis, whiteknight complex? Or simply hate women?

Not much of a choice unless you develop game to get sex.

Post: #22

Great article.

I love the comments. The tide is really turning.

Post: #23

Quote:Women by far have most of the power in the world: half the world's money and all the poosy.

Which one of you guys wrote this one?

Post: #24

This isn't a surprise. On the forum I think we often overlook the fact that most of us are a rare breed.

I'm of the belief now that most guys just don't have what it takes to learn game to a sufficient level. Most will try a few things out, realize it's hard, and then quit. Just like anything else that takes consistent effort and is difficult.

Forcing yourself to accept reality and lead an examined life is not something most people want to do.

Just for fun I tried an experiment.

I've been doing ice cold showers for a while now, so I've been dropping that in conversation to see if I can convince 'average' guys to do it. I talk about the benefits: increased testosterone, immunity, and being able to face bigger challenges.

The typical responses are like:

"Why?"
"You're crazy man."
"I'll never do that."
"No fucking way."

Now if these guys can't stand being uncomfortable for a few minutes, how the hell are they going to deal with cunty girls, shit tests, and constant rejections? It's just not going to happen.

I'm willing to bet that a large percentage of members on this forum have had to deal with lots of hardship in life. I know I've had to, much more than most. But the type of mindset that's needed to excel in game or anything hard only comes after several trials by fire.

Post: #25

Let this be a lesson, weak men have no hope, you can't talk them out or teach them. They have to figure this shit out on their own if they want to survive and pass on their genes!

On the other hand, who you can really influence, inspire and teach the ways of the alpha are younger children and young teens. Teach your siblings, nephews anyone that admires you. Teach them what their fathers have failed to do. Teach them to go after what they want and not wait around for things to magically happen! Teach them that winning in everything is important and that loosing is pathetic, teach them to HATE loosing and giving up.
I've had better luck getting through my young cousins than friends my age! It really is pathetic all the feminization that is going on, it makes me appreciate having a strict red pill father and submissive mother. I can almost bet that at my age he would still call me out or even whoop my ass if I came out with some pussy ass shit I see youngsters doing these days.

Keep your frame fellas, like Charles Bronson in Once Upon in the West