Post: #1

So I'm seeing this girl, that I banged a couple of times who's probably a 6 or so in my book.
The thing is, she has this super hot best friend that's a solid 8.5. The 2 girls are pretty close to each other.

Before we hooked up, the hot friend would drop some solid ioi's, but I still ended up going for the average one, because I was a bit insecure back then, and assumed she was a bit out of my league.

Fast forward a few weeks now, I realized what I mistake I did by going for the average one, and I'm wandering if there's anything I could do, without loosing them both?

The girl has also been asking me lately if I could introduce some of my friends to her hot friend? ughh

Post: #2

treat the one you're with with increased ashollery but bang her super well. so that she has no excuse but to complain about you to her friend but also finish each complaint with "but he is so good in bed". More bsdm type of stuff, have her squirt, just do shit like she's not used to much so she will share with her friend to "process". "more "dread" game ala Heartiste

Post: #3

Seinfeld might have the answer: The Race - Season 6 - Episode 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_pv_vRHKI

Post: #4

(02-07-2015 02:23 PM)Kissinger2014 Wrote:  Seinfeld might have the answer: The Race - Season 6 - Episode 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_pv_vRHKI

Thank you. that was the funniest two minutes today yet

Post: #5

Threesome.

Post: #6

dont waste time with the ugly one, see it as a stepping stone and go hard after the hot one. You'll end up wasting too much time with the ugly, and the hot one will turn against you eventually.

Post: #7

(02-07-2015 12:56 PM)Virtus Wrote:  treat the one you're with with increased ashollery but bang her super well. so that she has no excuse but to complain about you to her friend but also finish each complaint with "but he is so good in bed". More bsdm type of stuff, have her squirt, just do shit like she's not used to much so she will share with her friend to "process". "more "dread" game ala Heartiste

I like that idea, I'll give it a shot.

But, what type of interaction should I have with the hot friend? Am I entering danger zone if I flirt, compliment her in front of the average friend?

I'm going on a trip with both of them 2 weeks from now, so In the meantime I want to collect as much advice as I can on here.

Lastly, these girls are not the type that I would label as "slutty", so I want to be really careful with this.

Post: #8

(02-07-2015 04:24 PM)Vaun Wrote:  dont waste time with the ugly one, see it as a stepping stone and go hard after the hot one. You'll end up waste too much time with the ugly, and the hot one will turn against you eventually.

The average friend already told the hot friend that we slept together. Is it already too late?

Post: #9

(02-07-2015 04:38 PM)hervens Wrote:  

(02-07-2015 04:24 PM)Vaun Wrote:  dont waste time with the ugly one, see it as a stepping stone and go hard after the hot one. You'll end up waste too much time with the ugly, and the hot one will turn against you eventually.

The average friend already told the hot friend that we slept together. Is it already too late?

Ideally, that's what you want. You want that free advertising...just be careful not to fall into any relationship frame with the 6

Last thing you need is for her to run tell the hot friend that you two are an item. That only makes the guilt run faster for your target

Post: #10

If you want to bang multiple girls in a social group, you need to start with the best looking one you can get.

A girl does not want the leftover guy of a girl who is less attractive, that lowers her status.

However, a girl will take the sloppy seconds of a better looking girl because of preselection- a higher ranking female has mated with the guy, making him very attractive to the lower ranking girls.

So going down the girl ladder is much easier than going up.

Post: #11

I'll tell you right now move on this kind of shit does not end well. Either false rape because they are best friends or both will turn against you.

Post: #12

(02-07-2015 09:15 AM)hervens Wrote:  So I'm seeing this girl, that I banged a couple of times who's probably a 6 or so in my book.
The thing is, she has this super hot best friend that's a solid 8.5. The 2 girls are pretty close to each other.

Before we hooked up, the hot friend would drop some solid ioi's, but I still ended up going for the average one, because I was a bit insecure back then, and assumed she was a bit out of my league.

Fast forward a few weeks now, I realized what I mistake I did by going for the average one, and I'm wandering if there's anything I could do, without loosing them both?

The girl has also been asking me lately if I could introduce some of my friends to her hot friend? ughh

If you think you got a legit chance with the 8.5 then go for it.

To be honest though, I doubt it will work out, unless she sees you as extremely high value. Its rare that the significantly better looking friend will get with you after you have hooked up with the less attractive one (dont worry they know where they stand).

Once you already hooked up with the 6, you automatically disqualified yourself for being an option for the 8.5 (unless she thinks her ugly friend is equal to her in beauty, which I highly doubt), simply because she knows shes that much better looking/higher value than her ugly friend, so in her mind she can get anyone and wont dupe down to the 6's level.

However, the vise-versa happens all the time, where the less attractive friend wants to get with the guy whos getting with a friend thats more attractive than herself.

I remember one distinct time where this sexy girl liked me. Her good friend was this busted 6. The hottie invited me to her house party she was throwing, Everyone at the party was telling me how the sexy girl likes me and I got it in the bag. Well what happend? At the peak of my drunk the 6 wanted to "show me around the neighborhood". I was drunk and horny and like an idiot I made out with the busted brod. I never was able to recover from that and I got immediately eliminated as possible option for the sexy girl that had originally liked me.

I get a message from the busted brod the next morning " thank you for the amazing kiss". I almost threw up in my mouth. In her mind, she was ecstatic to get with the guy that her hot friend wanted and in her lizard brain, happy she fucked things up between us. In a twisted way, its her one upping' her hotter friend as a result of her insecurity and jealousy issues.

Worst case you tried and got rejected by the 8.5 and lose access to a 6. Who cares, shes a 6, after 1 bang with that you dont need to hit that again anyways, time to amp up the quality.

Post: #13

(02-08-2015 11:52 AM)sandman972 Wrote:  If you think you got a legit chance with the 8.5 then go for it.

To be honest though, I doubt it will work out, unless she sees you as extremely high value. Its rare that the significantly better looking friend will get with you after you have hooked up with the less attractive one (dont worry they know where they stand).

Once you already hooked up with the 6, you automatically disqualified yourself for being an option for the 8.5 (unless she thinks her ugly friend is equal to her in beauty, which I highly doubt), simply because she knows shes that much better looking/higher value than her ugly friend, so in her mind she can get anyone and wont dupe down to the 6's level.

However, the vise-versa happens all the time, where the less attractive friend wants to get with the guy whos getting with a friend thats more attractive than herself.

I remember one distinct time where this sexy girl liked me. Her good friend was this busted 6. The hottie invited me to her house party she was throwing, Everyone at the party was telling me how the sexy girl likes me and I got it in the bag. Well what happend? At the peak of my drunk the 6 wanted to "show me around the neighborhood". I was drunk and horny and like an idiot I made out with the busted brod. I never was able to recover from that and I got immediately eliminated as possible option for the sexy girl that had originally liked me.

I get a message from the busted brod the next morning " thank you for the amazing kiss". I almost threw up in my mouth. In her mind, she was ecstatic to get with the guy that her hot friend wanted and in her lizard brain, happy she fucked things up between us. In a twisted way, its her one upping' her hotter friend as a result of her insecurity and jealousy issues.

Worst case you tried and got rejected by the 8.5 and lose access to a 6. Who cares, shes a 6, after 1 bang with that you dont need to hit that again anyways, time to amp up the quality.

Thanks for clarifying things, that's what I was thinking also.
Now that I know what I know now, I'm actually quite angry.
I honestly do think I had a legit chance with the 8.5 BEFORE I hooked up with the 6.
The 3 of us were at this bar, and her ioi's were pretty clear.
Oh well, I guess some of us have to learn the hard way.

Post: #14

I'm a newbie myself but I would try getting rid of the 6 on a night out on your vacation and while with the 8, randomly flirt with other hot chicks thus valuating yourself to her. on the other hand it could make things even worse but it's worth a try isn't it?

Post: #15

chicks will do crazy things to get back at you if you go for the switch. I had a girl over that I approached with a friend. I'm having friends over For drinks that weekend and tell her to swing by with some friends of hers. She agrees and we all end up, 3 on 3, at my friends. Her friend is hotter, and has a huge rack so I contrive The possibility of a switch. alcohol runs out, i suggest they all go... There isnt room for all of us to go, and the friend who owns the place doesn't want anyone he doesn't know staying there alone, which is everyone but me. She doesn't want to go and the other guy is passed out and wants me to keep an eye out because he's trashed and was acting belligerent earlier. It was just bound to happen at this point. We bang and quickly get dressed and head out to the living room when we hear the car; but I'm pretty much caught. I get a ride from the girls in the morning. The girl i initially approached said she was going to have her ripped older brothers jump me while the other, who turns out to be in an ltr, admits to me she wanted it (which I have in writing), she has to act like i full court pressed her. That friendship ended quickly between them.

The result:

1 bang
1 friendship ruined
1 relationship ruined (not on me though)
Several weeks of anxiety.
Would i do it again? Probably not.

All other switches i've performed (or attempted) ended in drama so it's a mixed bag.

Post: #16

Not worth it. Been there ...done that.

Unless you're looking for some drama and anxiety, as the previous poster said. I confirm. Especially if they are normal (healthy self esteem) and good friends.

There's too much abundance out there that to make that scenario work.