Post: #1

If you have a close-friend, who claims to get laid, but shows clear beta-signs, and is weak (not confident). is it righteous to raise suspicions on his claims?

I had a friend who claimed to pull a girl from the club "every-night" (he goes there) and had "experience" with many girls. Luck made it that we rent together, and since then (6-7 months) he didn't even get a date with a girl.

I was also surprised of his claims, and maybe "very low" retention rates. The few girls that I fuc*ed and dumped still call me once in a while either for sex or just to see me. it's interesting that no girl is calling him.

Since he fucked many girls, where are they now? ( and he is talking about last year)

Is it more accurate to estimate girls a guy got laid with by his: Status, Alphaness, Salary and Location?

Post: #2

Why do you care? You sound like a bitch.

Post: #3

Even betas get laid. Hell most people are married, dating or fucking hookers.

Post: #4

Betas do get laid more than some guys on here make out they do. They're probably just drunk and don't realise how beta-ish he is till later, and then don't contact him back.

Post: #5

There are a lot of guys with half-way game who have blue-pill thinking who can get laid by 5-10 different girls a year. They may also have exploited a niche market, such as a particular ethnic, language, or social group in their area. I know this because I was one of those guys. I was getting laid much more than my friends so they thought I was a true player. But, after getting involved in this community I realize I really wasn't doing anything special. I think Roissy referred to these type of guys as "greater betas." Greater betas do get laid, but they aren't realizing their full potential.

Post: #6

Yeah he very could be. Guys lie like crazy about this.

Sexual success, physical prowess, finances - these are the 3 areas that traditionally guys most lie about.

Post: #7

Sex isn't something magical gift bestowed upon the worthy by the pussy gods. You have no clue who is getting laid and who isn't, so I wouldn't worry much about it. If a classically beta guy told me he was getting laid, I would be happy for him because a lot of dudes aren't getting laid.

Post: #8

I'd rather focus on myself and work on how I can get laid more than wasting energy doubting a beta friends' sex life escapades.

Post: #9

The only time I give a fuck if another man is getting laid is if he's trying to teach me "game" or something else.

There are a few gurus I think are virgin spergs, but I keep that to myself.

Post: #10

(05-10-2015 04:51 AM)Bey Wrote:  Why do you care? You sound like a bitch.

Post: #11

Your friend is obviously lying. Nobody goes from "pulling a girl every time I go out" to six months of not even hanging out with a girl. Guys lie about this shit all the time.

Post: #12

If he's a close friend, call him out. Doesn't have to be public or rude.
"Yo this Morpheus scene is actually a metaphor for a Dr. Phil changing day in your life"

Post: #13

I have a friend who claims he only dates 9's. But his behavior is completely incongruent with the results he's saying he gets. He brags when girls like his stuff on face book, and one time he got drunk he started calling every single 5 in our class "the hottest girl in the class", landing him a reputation.

Just know that its suspicious and don't take any of their advice or suggestions about game seriously, its not worth calling him out on it, you have nothing to gain from smashing his ego.

Post: #14

Nothing to say about OP's friend, but being beta actually doesnt have that much to do with getting laid. It does with quantity and quality though.

This might be considered heresy here on RVF, but beta guys who happen to be rich and good looking dont need game. What game does is raise your SMV, but if your SMV without game is already decent, there's no reason to not getting laid. They might not be banging the girl they should be banging nor the amount, but they are banging.

Sure they might not be as wise as we are and might get divorced raped and cheated on, but ignorance is a bliss. Most guys I see walking around with a 6s or 7s meet her through social circle/work and been sticking around for 5-7 year, then eventually get married. For most guys that's good enough if they dont know the shit waiting for them down the road.

Post: #15

^ not heresy at all. The saying goes: game, money, looks, pick two.

Post: #16

sounds like most guys i've ever met. don't stress it

I had a buddy who used to talk about crushing ass like hes a 4'9 50 year old asian lady crushing cans at the bottledepot and would ask me retarded questions like "yo bruh this chick wants me to come over for a sleepover but says we cant have sex, heres a pic of her in her panties. WHAT DO I DO?!?!!?

the only thing you should do is do your best not to be jealous. I've got a problem with this, friends show me pics of all the puddy they're puttin in the dirt and they're always hot chicks, i get jealous wondering why I'm not getting better girls. They may have fucked one or two but for the most part most guys are full of shit unless they're showing you their nudes.

Post: #17

Lots of betas get laid, though from my observations - and as manosphere guys would expect - more often than not in LTRs with girls they met through social circle. And not always unattractive or even just average girls.

But even in my own beta years (beta with a helpful increasingly IDGAF attitude) from late teens to mid 30s I managed to bang several girls a year from primarily drunken cold approaches (usually "lucky shots" with girls showing IOIs, rather than spamming a lot of approaches, I had too much approach anxiety for that), or peripheral social circle when I was young, in bars and clubs.
Some countries and cities are no doubt more conductive to that than others - I grew up in a place where being a little bit nice often seemed better than being an outright jerk, and where the girls were usually as drunk as the guys during weekends and one-night stands extremely common.

I think the "sexless betas" claims in the manosphere and game community are overblown.