Post: #26

(06-13-2015 12:31 AM)Elizabeth1 Wrote:  Stop using chemical based shampoos and conditioner and use natural and herbal treatments for your hair. I found coconut oil massage very effective in reducing hair fall and making hair thick, strong and beautiful. Regular use of coconut oil give hair a beautiful natural shine and makes them grow fast. Aloe Vera is another amazing herb you can use to stop hair fall and make your hair strong. Honey, Olive oil, Amla(Indian gooseberry), Sikakai are also very effective for hair hair fall and growing hair back. Massaging water of onion on bald area regularly helps in growing your hair back. So if you're looking for some hair growth tips, just avoid chemical based based products and use natural ones. Eating healthy and balanced diet and avoiding junk and processed foods is also very helpful in this.

While I appreciate your comment, aren't you a chick? We have a no girl rule unless you send a nude pic to Roosh. I think that is who gets to see the pic. Hopefully, you are not a fat, short pink haired chick with some super original description of how you identify sexually.

Post: #27

I'm bald. Or not direct bald but I have super thin hair and its also blond. It started as a teenager and thats was a reason why I had it always short. With my 20s I cut it to 1 cm but with the time it get worse. Now I cut it all, no shaving just with the machine.
I also keep in shape and some women respond quite well to that look and others not. At least it give me a kind of outstanding look and I often get compliments that I have the head to be bald and it fits me quite well.

When I was a little bit younger I get often comments I've I'm a skinhead. Over the time I get bored of the question and just said yes lol. I started to troll the people back.

Post: #28

I'm experiencing hair thinning on my forehead.. Other than coconut oil, is there any other remedy that I can use?

Post: #29

^Marie?

You lost, hon?

Post: #30

So, non-herbal shampoo can contribute to hair loss? Is hair conditioner bad too?

Post: #31

I've had very good results using minoxidil and saw palmetto.

Post: #32

(06-16-2015 10:34 PM)marie samantha Wrote:  I'm experiencing hair thinning on my forehead.. Other than coconut oil, is there any other remedy that I can use?

Are you a woman?

Post: #33

(06-17-2015 05:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 10:34 PM)marie samantha Wrote:  I'm experiencing hair thinning on my forehead.. Other than coconut oil, is there any other remedy that I can use?

Are you a woman?

I have great sympathy for women who suffer from hair loss, but like, why is this thread attracting them?

Post: #34

(06-17-2015 05:43 PM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

(06-17-2015 05:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 10:34 PM)marie samantha Wrote:  I'm experiencing hair thinning on my forehead.. Other than coconut oil, is there any other remedy that I can use?

Are you a woman?

I have great sympathy for women who suffer from hair loss, but like, why is this thread attracting them?

RVF is the only place for straight forward no BS answers.

Post: #35

(05-25-2015 02:56 PM)civpro Wrote:  Get on Finasteride if you want to keep your hair and even grow some back. It is the most effective thing there is. Rogaine and Ketoconazole are secondary. Try it out and see if you can handle it without the side effects.

Women DO NOT like the shaved head look. Enough with this coping. Women like a healthy full head of hair. However, not everyone can have that. Instead, the shaved head look is simply better than an unhealthy thinning head of hair. It's just a way to deal.

For your photos, definitely grow your hair out and use topical concealers to create the illusion of a full hear of hair. You mentioned DermMatch, but there's another out there: Toppik. Look it up and try it.

Include one shaved head photo in the mix so she at least knows, or should know, that that's one of your looks. Then show up on your dates with your shaved head. Act like it doesn't matter and proceed as normal.

Remember, love is a battlefield. You don't OWE these random hos the truth. When dealing with strangers, virtue is a cockblock.

Girls love guys with shaved heads......as long as they have muscles.

The argument of "well he's famous and has a good body!" cracks me up. We should all have good bodies on this forum, and that's something that everyone can obtain. And they wouldn't be sex symbols if women didn't consider them good looking, regardless of their fame. It's not like Moby has magazines beating down his door to interview him about his sex symbol status.

Having a full head of hair is better, but so is being 6 foot 4 with a trust fund. But being jacked with a bald head drops panties. If some of you guys are balding, don't think it's a bad thing. Just hit the weights hard, throw on a white v neck, raw denim jeans, aviators and some Wolverine 1000 mile boots. Game over.





If you're balding you just have to go for a more masculine style and rock some muscle mass and it's a huge positive. If you look like Moby, huge negative.

Post: #36

And the chakra reiki they recommended on Jezebel wasn't working. Thinning hair on your head and sprouting body hair everywhere else is caused by excess DHT over time and is unrelated to shampoo, sodium lauryl sulfate, or phases of the moon. Most guys slow loss with minoxidil and/or an oral blocker like Finasteride or Dutasteride. I use Min but go natural with epilobium parviflorum. It also inhibits Test to estrogen conversion unlike the more popular saw palmetto - basically a weaker version of Finasteride with some Nolvadex thrown in. I like my sex drive the way it is so never took Fin.

Recently made the switch to RU 58841 on the recommendation of someone else here, now I use this every night right after showering and Minoxidil in the AM, and the Epilobium 2-3 times daily. Talk to me in a year and we'll see how my hairline is then...

I get eyefucked more with longer hair than I ever did with a buzz cut but there does come a point when the combover is too obvious and it's best to shave it. And yeah, 1000 mile series will get you laid!

Post: #37

Are there no dangers to Saw Palmetto or are they the same as finasteride just a lot less since the effect is not as strong as well?

Post: #38

(06-17-2015 11:21 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  I use Min but go natural with epilobium parviflorum. It also inhibits Test to estrogen conversion unlike the more popular saw palmetto - basically a weaker version of Finasteride with some Nolvadex thrown in. I like my sex drive the way it is so never took Fin.

Can you elaborate on epilobium parviflorum. Quantities you take etc? Where do you buy it?

I looked online found this http://www.worldhairloss.org/index.php/w...Inhibition

Quote:There have been no clinical studies to indicate the efficacy of Epilobium as an agent against hair loss. However, anecdotal accounts and testimonials exist claiming that it has helped those who have used it to maintain a healthy head of hair while reducing hair fall out with no side-effects mentioned.

One more question where do you buy RU 58841? It doesn't seem readily available on amazon.
Thanks.

Post: #39

(06-17-2015 11:28 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  Are there no dangers to Saw Palmetto or are they the same as finasteride just a lot less since the effect is not as strong as well?

there are no dangers/ side effects from saw palmetto from what im aware...

Post: #40

If you took enough saw palmetto you'd get the same sides as Fin but it would take a lot. I think all the orals act on 5 alpha reductase. From what I understand the epilobium won't create as much estrogen on comparable dht-lowering dosages, but I can't recall now where I read that. I've taken it for 8+ years now at above average doses with no sides, but it is also weaker than Fin. Couple brief abstracts on the stuff and the active ingredient oenothein B - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8778238 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9140222

To make the epilobium tincture I pack one cup of the Smallflower stuff on Amazon into a measuring cup and pour vodka over it until it is full to the two cup line, then dump this into a mason jar and let sit for a few days at room temp, shaking occasionally. Then pour through a coffee filter into another jar (squeeze the filter to make it quicker, change as needed, toss the solids) and from there fill up a 30 ml dropper and dose 15-20 drops or so, 2-3 times a day. Two cups lasts a long time, maybe 6 months. This tincture is darker than the stuff I used to pay a small fortune which gets rave reviews elsewhere.

I ordered my RU58841 powder from AARC-chems, most guys use Kane. It's not cheap anywhere but if it works... Kane is better vouched but they're not US based - slower and cost a little more after shipping. Went entirely off this excellent guide - https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/12...sage-Guide except that I am using 91% isopropryl alcohol for price and ease of availability. It still dissolves the powder fully at 70 mg/ml, might be a little more irritating to sensitive skin though. I am using the propylene glycol too. Only takes a few minutes to mix up a week supply.

Used the Horizon Pro-20B mg scale for a few years now, works great and cheap on Ebay. 7ml droppers fit a week supply - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PI8BN6E and a decent measuring dropper for the liquids - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0071S5Y46

Post: #41

^^^ Thanks champ. Time for me to get serious about this. But I heard about the risk of propecia and held off. Seems like topical stuff is ok. And epilobium seems to have no side effects.

Post: #42

(06-18-2015 01:39 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  If you took enough saw palmetto you'd get the same sides as Fin but it would take a lot. I think all the orals act on 5 alpha reductase. From what I understand the epilobium won't create as much estrogen on comparable dht-lowering dosages, but I can't recall now where I read that. I've taken it for 8+ years now at above average doses with no sides, but it is also weaker than Fin. Couple brief abstracts on the stuff and the active ingredient oenothein B - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8778238 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9140222

To make the epilobium tincture I pack one cup of the Smallflower stuff on Amazon into a measuring cup and pour vodka over it until it is full to the two cup line, then dump this into a mason jar and let sit for a few days at room temp, shaking occasionally. Then pour through a coffee filter into another jar (squeeze the filter to make it quicker, change as needed, toss the solids) and from there fill up a 30 ml dropper and dose 15-20 drops or so, 2-3 times a day. Two cups lasts a long time, maybe 6 months. This tincture is darker than the stuff I used to pay a small fortune which gets rave reviews elsewhere.

I ordered my RU58841 powder from AARC-chems, most guys use Kane. It's not cheap anywhere but if it works... Kane is better vouched but they're not US based - slower and cost a little more after shipping. Went entirely off this excellent guide - https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/12...sage-Guide except that I am using 91% isopropryl alcohol for price and ease of availability. It still dissolves the powder fully at 70 mg/ml, might be a little more irritating to sensitive skin though. I am using the propylene glycol too. Only takes a few minutes to mix up a week supply.

Used the Horizon Pro-20B mg scale for a few years now, works great and cheap on Ebay. 7ml droppers fit a week supply - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PI8BN6E and a decent measuring dropper for the liquids - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0071S5Y46

Giorgass, just to understand what you're saying, do you drink the epilobium tincture? I've frankly never heard of the stuff before.

Has your hairline stayed the same since you've started consuming it?

Post: #43

(06-18-2015 11:28 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  Giorgass, just to understand what you're saying, do you drink the epilobium tincture? I've frankly never heard of the stuff before.

Has your hairline stayed the same since you've started consuming it?

Correct, drink up. I think it has receded very slightly in 8 years which is why I've switched to topical RU at night rather than Min, but has slowed exponentially. If you're looking to stop loss entirely using only an oral, Fin would be the choice, along with the side effects.

Post: #44

This is a prime lightening deal.

Pura d'or Hair Loss Prevention Premium Organic Shampoo

Highly reviewed, only good for a few more hours, but cheap enough to make it worth a try.

http://www.amazon.com/Pura-dor-Preventio...op?ie=UTF8

Post: #45

Fin&dut and even minox can all change permanent side effects... Not just sexual but premature skin aging, I've even read of facial bone loss reports. There are studies saying that side effects aren't permanent but most of them were financed by drug companies ... so go figure. There are hundreds if not thousands of people reporting them being permanent on the internet - why would they waste their time doing it ?

Also DHT is just more powerful version of testosterone so lowering it might not be good idea...

If you can pull off the shaved look then I'd say absolutely go for it.

Post: #46

(06-17-2015 12:12 AM)Pinocchio Wrote:  I've had very good results using minoxidil and saw palmetto.

Minoxidil? How do I use it? Do I apply it everyday?

Monoxidil, like this picture in the site? http://www.nuhart.com/home/treatment-option/

Post: #47

(07-21-2015 04:04 AM)marie samantha Wrote:  

(06-17-2015 12:12 AM)Pinocchio Wrote:  I've had very good results using minoxidil and saw palmetto.

Minoxidil? How do I use it? Do I apply it everyday?

Monoxidil, like this picture in the site? http://www.nuhart.com/home/treatment-option/

1-2 times per day. It will give you an itchy scalp, so I use a moisturizer for your scalp.

Post: #48

If your using minoxidil skip applying it in the mornings and just be very generous when applying it at night. Not only is it more practical but studies have showing it penetrates the scalp more effectively.

Also consider finasteride.

-Main points to consider 10x the amount of men report an increase in sex drive than report a decrease. (Horny goat weed and macca powder similar effect both were used to treat enlarged prostates you do that by decreasing DHT)

-Your testosterone will go up on average 18% from the unconverted DHT

-If you get a hair transplant you will need to to use it anyway for it be effective long term

-Over 75% of men over 50 end up with prostate problems and use it anyway at 5mg more than 5x the amount recommend for halting hairloss still low reports of side effects

-you will decrease your chance of developing prostate problems in the first place


If you choose not to go this route then go full jason statham style, jacked and masculine. You should do this with hair anyway. One true con of having a shaved head is it may decrease your matches on dating websites with the 18-19 year old population if you look somewhat intimidating. I want to bang as many of them as possible before going that route just in case.

Post: #49

(08-13-2015 12:40 PM)Stay Wrote:  Also consider finasteride.

-Main points to consider 10x the amount of men report an increase in sex drive than report a decrease. (Horny goat weed and macca powder similar effect both were used to treat enlarged prostates you do that by decreasing DHT)

-Your testosterone will go up on average 18% from the unconverted DHT

Where is your source for this? Finisteride can screw with your T levels. When I was on it my libido took a hit and my T levels were low. Samsamsam has a thread on how it caused him some issues also.

Post: #50

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840927/