Post: #67776

(07-28-2017 01:05 PM)911 Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 12:15 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 10:35 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 10:08 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  I swear, the amount of bullshit that passes for accurate history on this site is ridiculous. McCain's plane was next to the one that dropped the bomb. His didn't. There are lots of things to despise McCain for, but let's not make shit up.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/navy-rele...rds_062014

"McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”

WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “wet-started” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “hot-dog” pilots.

McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.

As WMR previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain’s father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of (...) the USS Liberty."

I know what your source says. It's funny that literature that goes through actual scholars (not the internet) doesn't.

"Believed by many crewmen," okay, who? Names and ranks. This is the same type of anonymous source bullshit that fake news media tries to get away with.

Your version of events makes no sense.



McCain's aircraft is 416 on the diagram. The aircraft that shot the missile is 110 on the diagram. For the "wet start" to cause the missile launch, somehow McCain's aircraft was the opposite direction, facing out towards sea, as he started the afterburner.

Just out of curiosity Teller, do you also believe that the attack on the USS Liberty by Israeli forces was mostly a case of mistaken identity?

Since you are so keen about discussing that incident and diverting the topic, answer these questions:


(1) How many investigations were concerning that incident, and what did they conclude? Did you even bother reading them at all? All five (yes, there were FIVE investigations, conducted by both the USN and IDF).

(2) What was that ship doing in the middle of a war zone?

(3) Is Israel paying the compensation to the victims and families?

Post: #67777

Do we have celebration avatars on RVF?

Post: #67778

(07-28-2017 01:05 PM)911 Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 12:15 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 10:35 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 10:08 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  I swear, the amount of bullshit that passes for accurate history on this site is ridiculous. McCain's plane was next to the one that dropped the bomb. His didn't. There are lots of things to despise McCain for, but let's not make shit up.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/navy-rele...rds_062014

"McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”

WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “wet-started” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “hot-dog” pilots.

McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.

As WMR previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain’s father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of (...) the USS Liberty."

I know what your source says. It's funny that literature that goes through actual scholars (not the internet) doesn't.

"Believed by many crewmen," okay, who? Names and ranks. This is the same type of anonymous source bullshit that fake news media tries to get away with.

Your version of events makes no sense.



McCain's aircraft is 416 on the diagram. The aircraft that shot the missile is 110 on the diagram. For the "wet start" to cause the missile launch, somehow McCain's aircraft was the opposite direction, facing out towards sea, as he started the afterburner.

Just out of curiosity Teller, do you also believe that the attack on the USS Liberty by Israeli forces was mostly a case of mistaken identity?

Since you are so keen about discussing that incident and diverting the topic, answer these questions:


(1) How many investigations were concerning that incident, and what did they conclude? Did you even bother reading them at all? All five (yes, there were FIVE investigations, conducted by both the USN and IDF).

(2) What did all the declassified documents and info tell? More specifically - did the IDF order the attack?

(3) What was that ship doing in the middle of a war zone?

(4) Is Israel paying the compensation to the victims and families?


Don't link 2 hour videos - answer in your own words.

Post: #67779

Holy shit, Prebius is OUT. Just like that.

I guess they found the source of the leaks, and they didn't like what they found.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

Post: #67780

REINCE IS OUT!

Status of the Swamp = .... Draining

Post: #67781

(07-28-2017 04:03 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Holy shit, Prebius is OUT. Just like that.

I guess they found the source of the leaks, and they didn't like what they found.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

Alex Jones and Roger Stone were saying that Rat Preibus was the leaker since well... forever.


Glad he is out.

Post: #67782

Rinse pubics down the swamp drain.

Update: replaced with John Kelly.

Update II: will cernovich get a Pulitzer for all of his breaking news stories?

Post: #67783

Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

Post: #67784

I don't love Scaramucci; he strikes me as a mercenary more than anything. But he's not in a policymaking position and if he wants to kick ass for my side for now, that's fine with me. I don't care about his personal politics as long as he does his job.

Post: #67785

Mooch can be the most flaming liberal in the world. I don't give a fuck as long as he does his job. And so far he is doing exactly that: owning the press and cleaning out the WH leakers.

Scaramucci comes across as a very pragmatic guy to me: he's (for whatever reason) decided he's going to have Trump's back and be on his team. He seems like he has a real moral code, doesn't feel like he's the back-stabbing kind like half of the GOP

Post: #67786

Preibus is out and Kelly is in -Militarization of the Trump inner circle. Does Trump want to finish the regime change he's already operating in Venezuela and invade the country? Time will tell.

Post: #67787

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

Neogaf, one of the most staunch pro-Hillary forums on the web is cheering on mooch at the moment... this is concerning. I don't give two shits about reince. He was a traitor and probably was one of the main leakers, but if mooch goes after Bannon then something ain't right here.

Hopefully Mooch has seen the alt-light and is full-on Maga, because there are too many fuckin snakes in the grass as it is.

I do like the idea of a apolitical American psycho on our side who is in it to win, just don't touch the true heroes in the admin like Bannon, Miller and Gorka

Post: #67788

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

Because he's a wartime consigliere.

Post: #67789

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

And Trump donated to Hillary... That's just a cost of doing business.

BTW, It seems Mooch is coming back on the market
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...vorce.html

Maybe we can get him to write a datasheet?

Post: #67790

Post: #67791

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

I'm a fan of Mooch for many of the same reasons I like Trump. He's a take-no-shit alpha male that gets things done. He's a role model for the personality types that you'll find on this forum. At the end of the day, I respect the guy for what he's accomplished and how he presents himself. I'll chalk up democrat donations, etc to just playing the game. I could be wrong there but even that's not a big issue for me.

America has been governed by the weak and effeminate for far too long. That needs to change.

Post: #67792

I like the idea of military guys close to Trump. Make those congress pricks think twice about unfairly trying to impeach Trump.

Post: #67793

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

Compare him to that fat guy before him, already forgot his name who got played by the media again and again. Mooch is not a policy player as it seem. Mostly it is highly entertaining to see a no bs guy in the White House, who doesn't goose step around and play the part of "pseudo-academic nice guy" like so many media people.

Post: #67794

(07-28-2017 04:27 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Preibus is out and Kelly is in -Militarization of the Trump inner circle. Does Trump want to finish the regime change he's already operating in Venezuela and invade the country? Time will tell.

I couldn't give two fucks about Venezuela.

That's so far down the list of what's important right now I don't see how it's even on anyone's mind.

Post: #67795

Post: #67796

(07-28-2017 04:48 PM)redonion Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

I'm a fan of Mooch for many of the same reasons I like Trump. He's a take-no-shit alpha male that gets things done. He's a role model for the personality types that you'll find on this forum. At the end of the day, I respect the guy for what he's accomplished and how he presents himself. I'll chalk up democrat donations, etc to just playing the game. I could be wrong there but even that's not a big issue for me.

America has been governed by the weak and effeminate for far too long. That needs to change.

Donating to a "democrat" is hardly a disqualifying action. If you live in a major American city and become successful, you will need to donate to the Democrats at some point to continue your success.

Bribery exists in all countries at some level and that's what it looks like in ours.

Post: #67797

This is the benefit of having an experienced businessman like Trump in charge - all he cares about is results. And if the Republican party isn't going to provide the quality people he needs, then out goes the Republican party. It's beautiful.

Get results or GTFO - I love it. It might take a few more months to get his WH stacked with quality, but damn it's going to be glorious when he does. Can't wait to see Congress get restacked in 2018 and 2020 as well.

Post: #67798

(07-28-2017 04:48 PM)redonion Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Yes, but why do you all love Mooch?

The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

I'm a fan of Mooch for many of the same reasons I like Trump. He's a take-no-shit alpha male that gets things done. He's a role model for the personality types that you'll find on this forum. At the end of the day, I respect the guy for what he's accomplished and how he presents himself. I'll chalk up democrat donations, etc to just playing the game. I could be wrong there but even that's not a big issue for me.

America has been governed by the weak and effeminate for far too long. That needs to change.

That's what is called his "personal brand".

Post: #67799

(07-28-2017 03:39 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 01:05 PM)911 Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 12:15 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 10:35 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-28-2017 10:08 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  I swear, the amount of bullshit that passes for accurate history on this site is ridiculous. McCain's plane was next to the one that dropped the bomb. His didn't. There are lots of things to despise McCain for, but let's not make shit up.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/navy-rele...rds_062014

"McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”

WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “wet-started” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “hot-dog” pilots.

McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.

As WMR previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain’s father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of (...) the USS Liberty."

I know what your source says. It's funny that literature that goes through actual scholars (not the internet) doesn't.

"Believed by many crewmen," okay, who? Names and ranks. This is the same type of anonymous source bullshit that fake news media tries to get away with.

Your version of events makes no sense.



McCain's aircraft is 416 on the diagram. The aircraft that shot the missile is 110 on the diagram. For the "wet start" to cause the missile launch, somehow McCain's aircraft was the opposite direction, facing out towards sea, as he started the afterburner.

Just out of curiosity Teller, do you also believe that the attack on the USS Liberty by Israeli forces was mostly a case of mistaken identity?

Since you are so keen about discussing that incident and diverting the topic, answer these questions:


(1) How many investigations were concerning that incident, and what did they conclude? Did you even bother reading them at all? All five (yes, there were FIVE investigations, conducted by both the USN and IDF).

(2) What was that ship doing in the middle of a war zone?

(3) Is Israel paying the compensation to the victims and families?

I'll start a new thread to answer this, no point in cluttering this, of all threads.

Post: #67800

(07-28-2017 04:15 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  The guy donated to Obama, was pro-gun control, pro-Gay marriage, pro-trade.....hell I could go on for a long time this way. He's a flaming New York liberal.

Or seeds were planted a long time ago so everyone would think he was just a flaming New York Liberal, so Obama's DOJ wouldn't investigate him too closely.