Post: #1

Okay, I continually hear people on here talk about how learning game has changed their sex life like it's some kind of magic pill. I don't share this same view yet even though I've been reading this forum religiously for quite some time now. Mainly because it's incredibly difficult to absorb hundreds of pages of threads and put it all together- information overload if you will. So coming from a teaching background where we try to teach concepts in the simplest way possible I thought it would be useful to brainstorm key concepts of Game in dot point form, whether it be theoretical or practical knowledge. If everyone here contributes, I'm confident we can create a comprehensive, simplified list of key knowledge and understandings in game.

Remember- sum up the ideas in short dot points and any knowledge you can drop, no matter how small, is of assistannce.

For example...

- Women like a guy who takes charge. Never ask. Just do.

Post: #2

Winning.

That's it. That's why they call it a 'game'. It's something to be won.

In the realm of women and sex, that's just: become the most attractive man you can be, approach many attractive women, and treat the courtship process (meet to sex) as something to be honed.

The intricacies of demonstrating your attractiveness, where and when to approach women, and the many aspects of successful courtship, you can't expect to be laid out in universally accepted 'commandments'. Best just to repeat the "do, analyze, consult data, do again" cycle. Whenever you fail, analyze where it went wrong, consult the data (e.g. search this forum) on that issue for advice, learn a lesson, then try again. What you're asking for is a 'summary of RVF', which isn't feasible.

Edit: one of the reasons it can't be universal is that there are significant cultural differences. What's most attractive in Australia isn't the same as what's most attractive in Russia. What works for courtship in Brazil might not work in Korea. The only real universality is: you must be attractive, you must talk to strange girls, you must move the interaction towards sex. If you're doing that you'll always figure out the details on the way.

Post: #3

Asking us to write you a book is the wrong way to go about learning game, especially for a denialist such as yourself.

You'd be better served by reading Bang/Day Bang and one of the bang guides, and then going out and trying this stuff yourself.

WIA

Post: #4

I'm no game denialist. I just acknowledge that I haven't been able to put it all together into a final product yet. That's not to say I don't have any success with women because I was having moderate success before even finding this forum. I know game works because I've seen it first-hand.

Post: #5

Of course you can read and digest a bunch of theories, but coming from a education background you are aware some things are only made practical through application

Once you have witnessed it with your own two eyes, it becomes real

Like many things in life, experience is the best teacher because this is a participation sport

Post: #6

For what it's worth, from reading this forum the following appear to be generally accepted as the best literature on game. It might help you get started to read the literature and start practicing it in real life until you find the combination of techniques/stye which work for you.

* Bang & Day Bang by Roosh
* The Mystery Method by Mystery
* Rules of the Game by Neil Strauss
* The Natural by Richard La Ruina
* Chateau Heartiste blog from the beginning

Post: #7

Look, most men don't even fuck ten girls in their entire lifetime. Most men will never fuck an 8, and probably not a 7 unless they happen to get lucky at a drunken party in college. Is it because most men don't want to have a rotation of hot young chicks at their disposal? No, it's because seducing women is really hard. Game is hard, and it doesn't come down to mastering a short recipe in power point form (the closest you get is probably Heartiste's Sixteen Commandments). Besides, if you have been reading this forum carefully for a year you are no doubt familiar with all the basic concepts already. You know about approaching, rapport, escalating, comfort, and closing. You have an understanding of the importance of logistics, screening, and storytelling, and you are familiar with shit-testing, LMR, and agree-and-amplify. Assuming you are already applying these concepts in real-world situations, the next step is probably starting to think about how to balance these concepts against each other. What makes game complicated is that you have to achieve multiple, contradictory aims simultaneously: Sexualizing an interaction while building comfort. Maintaining an air of mystery and aloofness while generating an emotionally engaging conversation. Making a girl feel special yet also instill in her a fear that you may walk out at any moment. Pushing an interaction as far as it can go yet be ready to bail and find a new target. Treating a girl like a piece of meat without making her feel like a slut. Having an abundance mentality while acknowledging that most girls you want to fuck will never fuck you. Like I said, it's hard.

Going beyond these concepts, you also have to consider the adjustments to game that need to take place depending on location and cultural factors. In many cases the fastest way to improve your results is simply to go somewhere else where your characteristics or strengths make you more desirable to women in general or at least within a niche or subculture.

Post: #8

I'll bite...

game > looks > money

Every man has some elements of all 3, but game is most important. Even with minimal money & looks, a guy with strong game is going to get laid.

Conversely, a man with money & or looks will have high SMV, but if he doesn't approach, overcome LMR, manage his chick properly post bang, etc. he's going to be getting played, end up settling for a sub par woman, or stay with one who does not respect him.

Let's go a little deeper;


Game
What it is; approaching, attracting, logistics, closing
Can you improve it; yes

Looks
What is it; masculine presence (testosterone), aesthetics, style
What it gets you; reception, attraction, SMV
Can you improve it; yes

Money
What is it; power & freedom
What it gets you; attraction
Can you improve it; yes


*Motivation
Honorable mention for motivation; a mandatory pre-requirement before all. Motivation can be improved by getting plenty of sleep, increasing testosterone level, and quitting porn.

Post: #9

You just have to start. Studying/reading about game is one thing. But once you start to use 'techniques' in real life, you just start to realise how much work it actually is.

Imo, the most important thing is, to become the best man you can be.

All the theory is worthless, if you're not able to act.

Post: #10

I've been learning game for about a year. I've gotten a lot better. The 4 things that have helped me the most are:

1. Approaching, approaching, approaching. Even when I'm cold, if I keep approaching it leads to the end of the cold streak.

2. Get really good at sex. I personally watch
how to videos for technique. My passion and masculinity just come naturally. When women
love you in bed and say things like, "From now on you own my pussy." it gives you amazing confidence that transfers to other parts of game.

3. Learn how to escalate the interaction towards sex. Rooshe's book is great for this.

4.Learn how to tell when a girl is intersted. Most of this comes from approaching a lot, but there's also YouTube videos on this.

Post: #11

For what it's worth, the writers for the movie The Tao of Steve tried to summarize game as three principles. I'm sure most here would say that this way oversimplifies game, but here it is:

1. Eliminate sexual desire (i.e. don't project any thirst or neediness around women)
2. Be a hero in her presence (i.e. display high, masculine value)
3. Withdraw (i.e. make her chase you)

Post: #12

Post: #13

Here you go:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/03/...t-of-game/

Post: #14

I've seen tons of jacked guys at the club that struggle to meet a single girl. Sometimes they will get lucky with the odd time a 6 approaches them.

I've seen plenty of good looking dudes pass up great chances. Talk about squandering potential.

You hear about guys with money struggling. At some point game is necessary, otherwise you will be played for a fool by a woman older than you who confuses you about her actual value.

A guy with game, but none of the other things, can actually succeed where the others won't.

That's why a good looking guy or a guy that's in good shape, dresses well, is self-reliant, AND has game; is absolutely lethal.

I've been fortunate to see this combination a few times, notably some forum members I have met. It's helping me establish the direction that I want to follow.

Post: #15

This minute of banter alone teaches more than an hour of Googling game...

- the slow methodical walk
- touching immediately
- intense eye-contact
- "princess"
- dirty-talk/innuendo
- dodges questions like a boss

Post: #16

This Patrice O'Neal playlist sums up a lot of game concepts pretty well.